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Keystone XL

Postby nebport5 » Wed Aug 31, 2011 11:55 am

Wow, I didn't think Heineman had it in him. (Do we really not have a thread for this?)

Heineman: Deny pipeline permit


Joe Duggan and Paul Hammel WORLD-HERALD BUREAU wrote: Nebraska Gov. Dave Heineman sent a letter to the president Wednesday asking the government to deny a permit for the Keystone XL oil pipeline, citing concerns over pollution of the state's largest aquifer.


Joe Duggan and Paul Hammel WORLD-HERALD BUREAU wrote: “I am opposed to the proposed Keystone XL Pipeline route because it is directly over the Ogallala Aquifer,” the governor wrote.
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Postby iamjacobm » Wed Aug 31, 2011 11:59 am

He channeled his inner Daryl Hannah* I guess.

Major brain fart.

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Postby bigredmed » Wed Aug 31, 2011 12:43 pm

I have to say that I am glad he did this.

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Postby S33 » Wed Aug 31, 2011 12:46 pm

This may come as a surprise, but I agree with the decision. Build a pipeline, but don't build it over our nation's largest aquifer - and over its deepest portion.

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Postby Garrett » Wed Aug 31, 2011 4:16 pm

Exactly. Who knows, in a few years that water will probably be far more valuable than oil.
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Postby iamjacobm » Mon Nov 14, 2011 10:13 pm

Wow, I am pretty shocked.  Reportedly TransCanada will voluntary move the pipeline out of the Sandhills.

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Postby almighty_tuna » Tue Nov 15, 2011 3:12 am

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/nationn ... ills-.html

Let's hope the alternative they decide on isn't just as, or more, destructive.

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Postby Omababe » Tue Nov 15, 2011 6:26 am

iamjacobm wrote:Wow, I am pretty shocked.  Reportedly TransCanada will voluntary move the pipeline out of the Sandhills.


Well, it was either move it or face perpetual delays and protests and such.

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Postby Brad » Tue Nov 15, 2011 6:57 am

At my job I see and use a lot of maps, There are pipelines all across the state.  Some of them have even been around for decades.
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Postby iamjacobm » Tue Nov 15, 2011 3:54 pm

Omababe wrote:
iamjacobm wrote:Wow, I am pretty shocked.  Reportedly TransCanada will voluntary move the pipeline out of the Sandhills.


Well, it was either move it or face perpetual delays and protests and such.


I thought it would go to the courts.

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Postby jessep28 » Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:13 pm

Keystone XL looks to have become less relevant with the sale of the Seaway pipeline. The pipeline runs from Texas to Oklahoma and currently supplies oil for storage in Cushing, OK. The purchaser plans on reversing the flow of oil and the pipeline will supply Gulf refineries with oil from Oklahoma and probably reduce U.S. demand for Canadian tar sands crude.

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Postby jessep28 » Wed Jan 18, 2012 4:47 pm

The State Department has denied the permit:

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Postby Omaha_corn_burner » Fri Apr 08, 2016 9:35 am

Somewhat related. The Keystone pipline leaked 16,800 gallons of oil onto the ground in South Dakota.

http://www.omaha.com/money/transcanada- ... 29c71.html

specialists at the site affirm that the leak is being controlled and there is no significant environmental impact.

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Postby RNcyanide » Fri Apr 08, 2016 3:36 pm

Omaha_corn_burner wrote:Somewhat related. The Keystone pipline leaked 16,800 gallons of oil onto the ground in South Dakota.

http://www.omaha.com/money/transcanada- ... 29c71.html

specialists at the site affirm that the leak is being controlled and there is no significant environmental impact.


Because 16800 gallons of sludge is something that just happens all the time and the earth is used to it.
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Postby jessep28 » Fri Apr 08, 2016 4:56 pm

The amount spilled was roughly one railcar's worth of crude oil. They hold about 10-20k gallons of product.
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Postby HR Paperstacks » Fri Apr 08, 2016 8:37 pm

It's time to start moving on from oil. Then we won't have these issues anymore. Henry Ford designed the first car to run on hemp - it's time to move towards something like that.

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Postby Spatial77 » Fri Apr 08, 2016 11:27 pm

HR Paperstacks wrote:It's time to start moving on from oil. Then we won't have these issues anymore. Henry Ford designed the first car to run on hemp - it's time to move towards something like that.


This vehicle is only legal in Colorado and Washington, or by doctors prescription in certain other states incuding California.

It is just a matter of time until the shift to other energy sources occur. Just as we don't use whale oil any more, and coal is rapidly losing market share, someday oil as a fuel source will fade (not in my lifetime). "But, I want to say just one word to you... Just one word... Are you listening... Plastics." Yes, we will still need crude for the chemical and plastics industry so pipelines won't be going away.
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Postby HR Paperstacks » Fri Apr 08, 2016 11:34 pm

Spatial77 wrote:"But, I want to say just one word to you... Just one word... Are you listening... Plastics." Yes, we will still need crude for the chemical and plastics industry so pipelines won't be going away.

Yes, I guess you do have plastics. I tend to forget about that...

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Postby Uffda » Sat Apr 09, 2016 7:39 am

jessep28 wrote:The amount spilled was roughly one railcar's worth of crude oil. They hold about 10-20k gallons of product.


It was initially reported by someone seeing an oily sheen in the ditch and initially reported as somewhere around 200 gallons. A lot of saturated soil had to be removed.

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Postby Greg S » Mon Apr 11, 2016 8:15 am

Looks like rail cars it is. It will be good for UP if Keystone XL does not get built or keeps getting delayed.


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Postby Brad » Mon Apr 11, 2016 10:36 am

Greg S wrote:Looks like rail cars it is. It will be good for UP if Keystone XL does not get built or keeps getting delayed.


Even better for BNSF/Berkshire Hathaway.
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Postby ricko » Tue Apr 12, 2016 12:46 am

Spatial77 wrote:
HR Paperstacks wrote:It's time to start moving on from oil. Then we won't have these issues anymore. Henry Ford designed the first car to run on hemp - it's time to move towards something like that.


This vehicle is only legal in Colorado and Washington, or by doctors prescription in certain other states incuding California.

It is just a matter of time until the shift to other energy sources occur. Just as we don't use whale oil any more, and coal is rapidly losing market share, someday oil as a fuel source will fade (not in my lifetime). "But, I want to say just one word to you... Just one word... Are you listening... Plastics." Yes, we will still need crude for the chemical and plastics industry so pipelines won't be going away.


Plastic can be manufactured from agricultural by-poducts (Bioplastics) and cellulose. Nebraska has a bright future----we can be the 'Saudi Arabia' of both wind and agriculture based plastics if we make the right business decisions. I'm also encouraged by the discovery of a huge deposit of Niobium (sp?) discovered in southeastern Nebraska. This rare but strategically critical element, used to strengthen metals for use in aircraft, etc., is only found in large quantities overseas in some potentially unfriendly countries like China. The deposit is estimated to be worth several billion dollars.


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