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Keystone XL

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 11:55 am
by nebport5
Wow, I didn't think Heineman had it in him. (Do we really not have a thread for this?)

Heineman: Deny pipeline permit

Joe Duggan and Paul Hammel WORLD-HERALD BUREAU wrote: Nebraska Gov. Dave Heineman sent a letter to the president Wednesday asking the government to deny a permit for the Keystone XL oil pipeline, citing concerns over pollution of the state's largest aquifer.
Joe Duggan and Paul Hammel WORLD-HERALD BUREAU wrote: “I am opposed to the proposed Keystone XL Pipeline route because it is directly over the Ogallala Aquifer,” the governor wrote.

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 11:59 am
by iamjacobm
He channeled his inner Daryl Hannah* I guess.

Major brain fart.

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 12:43 pm
by bigredmed
I have to say that I am glad he did this.

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 12:46 pm
by S33
This may come as a surprise, but I agree with the decision. Build a pipeline, but don't build it over our nation's largest aquifer - and over its deepest portion.

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 4:16 pm
by Garrett
Exactly. Who knows, in a few years that water will probably be far more valuable than oil.

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 10:13 pm
by iamjacobm
Wow, I am pretty shocked.  Reportedly TransCanada will voluntary move the pipeline out of the Sandhills.

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 3:12 am
by almighty_tuna
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/nationn ... ills-.html

Let's hope the alternative they decide on isn't just as, or more, destructive.

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 6:26 am
by Omababe
iamjacobm wrote:Wow, I am pretty shocked.  Reportedly TransCanada will voluntary move the pipeline out of the Sandhills.
Well, it was either move it or face perpetual delays and protests and such.

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 6:57 am
by Brad
At my job I see and use a lot of maps, There are pipelines all across the state.  Some of them have even been around for decades.

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 3:54 pm
by iamjacobm
Omababe wrote:
iamjacobm wrote:Wow, I am pretty shocked.  Reportedly TransCanada will voluntary move the pipeline out of the Sandhills.
Well, it was either move it or face perpetual delays and protests and such.
I thought it would go to the courts.

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:13 pm
by jessep28
Keystone XL looks to have become less relevant with the sale of the Seaway pipeline. The pipeline runs from Texas to Oklahoma and currently supplies oil for storage in Cushing, OK. The purchaser plans on reversing the flow of oil and the pipeline will supply Gulf refineries with oil from Oklahoma and probably reduce U.S. demand for Canadian tar sands crude.

http://on.wsj.com/tcJkdi

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 4:47 pm
by jessep28
The State Department has denied the permit:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-16621398

Re: Keystone XL

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 9:35 am
by Omaha_corn_burner
Somewhat related. The Keystone pipline leaked 16,800 gallons of oil onto the ground in South Dakota.

http://www.omaha.com/money/transcanada- ... 29c71.html
specialists at the site affirm that the leak is being controlled and there is no significant environmental impact.

Re: Keystone XL

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 3:36 pm
by RNcyanide
Omaha_corn_burner wrote:Somewhat related. The Keystone pipline leaked 16,800 gallons of oil onto the ground in South Dakota.

http://www.omaha.com/money/transcanada- ... 29c71.html
specialists at the site affirm that the leak is being controlled and there is no significant environmental impact.
Because 16800 gallons of sludge is something that just happens all the time and the earth is used to it.

Re: Keystone XL

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 4:56 pm
by jessep28
The amount spilled was roughly one railcar's worth of crude oil. They hold about 10-20k gallons of product.

Re: Keystone XL

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 8:37 pm
by BRoss
It's time to start moving on from oil. Then we won't have these issues anymore. Henry Ford designed the first car to run on hemp - it's time to move towards something like that.

Re: Keystone XL

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 11:27 pm
by Spatial77
HR Paperstacks wrote:It's time to start moving on from oil. Then we won't have these issues anymore. Henry Ford designed the first car to run on hemp - it's time to move towards something like that.
This vehicle is only legal in Colorado and Washington, or by doctors prescription in certain other states incuding California.

It is just a matter of time until the shift to other energy sources occur. Just as we don't use whale oil any more, and coal is rapidly losing market share, someday oil as a fuel source will fade (not in my lifetime). "But, I want to say just one word to you... Just one word... Are you listening... Plastics." Yes, we will still need crude for the chemical and plastics industry so pipelines won't be going away.

Re: Keystone XL

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 11:34 pm
by BRoss
Spatial77 wrote:"But, I want to say just one word to you... Just one word... Are you listening... Plastics." Yes, we will still need crude for the chemical and plastics industry so pipelines won't be going away.
Yes, I guess you do have plastics. I tend to forget about that...

Re: Keystone XL

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 7:39 am
by Uffda
jessep28 wrote:The amount spilled was roughly one railcar's worth of crude oil. They hold about 10-20k gallons of product.
It was initially reported by someone seeing an oily sheen in the ditch and initially reported as somewhere around 200 gallons. A lot of saturated soil had to be removed.

http://www.argusleader.com/story/news/2 ... /82797348/

Re: Keystone XL

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 8:15 am
by Greg S
Looks like rail cars it is. It will be good for UP if Keystone XL does not get built or keeps getting delayed.


Greg

Re: Keystone XL

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 10:36 am
by Brad
Greg S wrote:Looks like rail cars it is. It will be good for UP if Keystone XL does not get built or keeps getting delayed.
Even better for BNSF/Berkshire Hathaway.

Re: Keystone XL

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2016 12:46 am
by ricko
Spatial77 wrote:
HR Paperstacks wrote:It's time to start moving on from oil. Then we won't have these issues anymore. Henry Ford designed the first car to run on hemp - it's time to move towards something like that.
This vehicle is only legal in Colorado and Washington, or by doctors prescription in certain other states incuding California.

It is just a matter of time until the shift to other energy sources occur. Just as we don't use whale oil any more, and coal is rapidly losing market share, someday oil as a fuel source will fade (not in my lifetime). "But, I want to say just one word to you... Just one word... Are you listening... Plastics." Yes, we will still need crude for the chemical and plastics industry so pipelines won't be going away.
Plastic can be manufactured from agricultural by-poducts (Bioplastics) and cellulose. Nebraska has a bright future----we can be the 'Saudi Arabia' of both wind and agriculture based plastics if we make the right business decisions. I'm also encouraged by the discovery of a huge deposit of Niobium (sp?) discovered in southeastern Nebraska. This rare but strategically critical element, used to strengthen metals for use in aircraft, etc., is only found in large quantities overseas in some potentially unfriendly countries like China. The deposit is estimated to be worth several billion dollars.