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Solar-Powered Pivots

Cool Story!

Solar-powered pivots: Family's project produces surplus energy, holds potential for rest of Nebraska

http://www.omaha.com/money/solar-powere ... 53d2f.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Cole Epley World-Herald staff writer wrote:Exactly one year has passed since the 25-kilowatt installation went on-line. By the end of 2013, the solar panels had fed more energy into the meter than had gone out, meaning Loup Power District sent Beller Feedlot a check instead of the other way around.

To date, the array has produced more than 40 megawatts of electricity.
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OPPD solar program sold out, waitlist has begun
Enrollment in the program opened to the public on April 1. As of May 10, 8,403 shares had been sold to 872 households across OPPD’s service territory. Customers who enrolled were located across OPPD’s service territory. The Midtown area, areas of Papillion and Bellevue, and northwest and southwest parts of the Omaha metro area had the heaviest concentrations of signups.
When the Sholes Wind Energy Center comes online later in 2019, OPPD will get nearly 40% of its electricity generation from renewables. Once Sholes is online, wind will account for more than 970 megawatts of OPPD’s generation portfolio.
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More power needed: OPPD plans to build Nebraska's largest solar farm, plus natural gas plants
By Aaron Sanderford / World-Herald staff writer wrote:Omaha’s electric utility plans to build Nebraska’s largest solar power farm as part of a broader green power initiative.

The Omaha Public Power District board will vote as early as Nov. 14 to seek bids to produce 400 to 600 megawatts of solar power, officials said Tuesday.

That would be roughly double the size of the state’s largest solar installation announced to date, a 230-megawatt, $230 million project proposed east of Lincoln by Ranger Power.
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I was super excited and proud of Omaha when I saw this! Keep up the good work OPPD!
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Few Solar Projects I noticed on my most recent aerial trip in the helicopter.

1. Cambria Hotel in North Downtown Omaha
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2. UNMC has a few buildings with Solar (Sorrell Center, Maurer Center, Stanley M. Truhlsen Eye Institute)
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3. City of Fremont
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Looks like the board approved the plan to commit to build a 400-600 mw solar power project. Here are some articles that talk about the shift in OPPD's board that led to the pivot to greener, cleaner energy:

https://pv-magazine-usa.com/2019/12/19/ ... file-2000/

https://energynews.us/2019/12/05/midwes ... ing-goals/
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3,000 acres of solar in the OPPD territory

https://www.omaha.com/money/nebraska-s- ... ea546.html
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dave1215 wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2020 8:41 pm 3,000 acres of solar in the OPPD territory

https://www.omaha.com/money/nebraska-s- ... ea546.html
Interesting discussion

https://www.omaha.com/news/plus/sarpy-c ... 57b65.html
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Des Moines making big boy moves with clean energy. Maybe the Midwest can step up and be the leaders on clean power!

https://www.eenews.net/stories/1063722417
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Nebraska is the Saudi Arabia of wind, too.
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In addition to the pictures I posted last year near Fremont, I noticed there was a large solar farm just north of the coal plant in Fremont too.
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Debated posting a new thread for this in suburban - not sure how far you go before it's too far :P
OPPD recently signed a contract with Community Energy, Inc. for an 81-megawatt solar array spread across approximately 500 leased acres south of Yutan, Neb., in eastern Saunders County. When complete, this facility will be capable of powering around 14,000 average homes.

The facility’s name: Platteview Solar.
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Bunch of NIMBY hillbillies standing in the way of progress - welcome to Nebraska!

https://www.newschannelnebraska.com/sto ... solar-farm
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PWL73316 wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 1:56 pm Bunch of NIMBY hillbillies standing in the way of progress - welcome to Nebraska!

https://www.newschannelnebraska.com/sto ... solar-farm
I saw that too. All I could do was shake my head and make a post here.
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ita wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 2:04 pm
PWL73316 wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 1:56 pm Bunch of NIMBY hillbillies standing in the way of progress - welcome to Nebraska!

https://www.newschannelnebraska.com/sto ... solar-farm
I saw that too. All I could do was shake my head and make a post here.
And the reason was -

"But residents were skeptical about what might happen to the ag land after this industrial project is over, among other concerns."

wut.
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Louie wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 2:38 pm
ita wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 2:04 pm
PWL73316 wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 1:56 pm Bunch of NIMBY hillbillies standing in the way of progress - welcome to Nebraska!

https://www.newschannelnebraska.com/sto ... solar-farm
I saw that too. All I could do was shake my head and make a post here.
And the reason was -

"But residents were skeptical about what might happen to the ag land after this industrial project is over, among other concerns."

wut.
Sad to think these people don’t have the critical thinking skills to realize the ag land won’t be viable ag land very long if we don’t slow down the climate change.
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I'm just wondering what the "other concerns" were. The vote doesn't make any rational sense----seems like a win-win for the county. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a lobbying effort going on behind the scenes that involved competing energy sources. If you look closely at the crowd, some of the attendees seem to be holding pre-printed stuff (position papers?, talking points?, maybe). Also, seems to be an unusually large crowd for something seemingly non-controversial. Something smells funny.
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ricko wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 5:40 pm I'm just wondering what the "other concerns" were. The vote doesn't make any rational sense----seems like a win-win for the county. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a lobbying effort going on behind the scenes that involved competing energy sources. If you look closely at the crowd, some of the attendees seem to be holding pre-printed stuff (position papers?, talking points?, maybe). Also, seems to be an unusually large crowd for something seemingly non-controversial. Something smells funny.
Solar power = socialist liberal propaganda.. or something. :roll:

Bet those same farmers would sell in a heartbeat to someone putting up a subdivision.
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Cass County residents hear details about solar farm project
In January, developers brought Cass County a proposal to install one of the largest projects for solar power in Nebraska.


At Monday’s planning meeting at the Cass County Fairgrounds in Weeping Water, residents who fall within a mile of the proposed area were encouraged to attend the county zoning meeting, where developers and others presented details and answered questions. about what a 320 mega hertz solar farm might look like.

In August, Cass County approved a zoning plan embracing the future, including alternative energy like solar, to make small projects possible for landowners and businesses.

”We had not anticipated something 3,000 acres, and the positive or negative affects it may or may not have on neighboring property owners,” said Michael Jensen, Department of Zoning administrator for Cass County. “So we need to look at this very closely.”
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The public hearing was one of the first steps in the process of bringing the project to reality. If they gain ultimate approval, developers say installation could begin as early as late 2023, with power flowing to the grid by 2025.
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ita wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:31 am Cass County residents hear details about solar farm project
In January, developers brought Cass County a proposal to install one of the largest projects for solar power in Nebraska.


At Monday’s planning meeting at the Cass County Fairgrounds in Weeping Water, residents who fall within a mile of the proposed area were encouraged to attend the county zoning meeting, where developers and others presented details and answered questions. about what a 320 mega hertz solar farm might look like.

In August, Cass County approved a zoning plan embracing the future, including alternative energy like solar, to make small projects possible for landowners and businesses.

”We had not anticipated something 3,000 acres, and the positive or negative affects it may or may not have on neighboring property owners,” said Michael Jensen, Department of Zoning administrator for Cass County. “So we need to look at this very closely.”
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The public hearing was one of the first steps in the process of bringing the project to reality. If they gain ultimate approval, developers say installation could begin as early as late 2023, with power flowing to the grid by 2025.
Surprised that its solar and not wind, but any renewable is a plus in this state.
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I kinda want to get solar energy for my house. I get so much freakin sun on my southward sloping roof and that actually heats my house in the summer, causing me to jack down the AC. I think it could be a win-win, but I'm a little hesitant about how much it could cost, and it seems kinda complicated to know how and when you are pulling from oppd or selling it back to em. Any personal accounts to quell my concerns is appreciated.
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what a 320 mega hertz solar farm might look like.
I, too, am curious about what a 320mhz solar farm might look like. Is this something I can listen to on my UHF scanner? What kind of antennae do solar panels use? Is this related to 5G? The people want to know!
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In my experience as kid in rural Nebraska, all the educated/informed people leave.

Who remains? Nimby people aka cousins of Opie
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Erik wrote: Wed Jun 01, 2022 4:52 pm In my experience as kid in rural Nebraska, all the educated/informed people leave.

Who remains? Nimby people aka cousins of Opie
I take offense to that. I grew up rural and still have many ties there. There are a lot of great rural people and the % of backward thinkers is just as great in any metro area.
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I wasn't really sure where to put this, but I just heard a story on Omaha looking to put a solar energy plant on the former landfill at 126th & State. I never knew that's where a landfill was. When was it in use? I always noticed every time I drove by there, there was an onion like smell, so I guess that could explain that. I knew that Heflinger park was the landfill before that. I guess people back then never thought Omaha would get as big as it has. Hefflinger park is in the middle of town now, the State street landfill is being developed around, and it'll be a matter of time til the current one at 204th & HWY 36 will have development around it. That place is over a half hour from the most distant corners of Douglas county.
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Honestly, Solar energy is not consistent with delivering reliable power, plus all the manufacturing of the panels and batteries create plenty of pollution, the notion that solar energy in its current state is green energy, is an illusion. California rolling brown-outs and unreliable "green" energy, is not worth the premium "green" tax; I just hope Omaha relies more on mature cleaner forms of energy such as Natural Gas, hydro and Nuclear energy because Iowa chose to dip their toes in wind power and now Iowan's pay way more for power than Nebraskans and power which is inconsistent since I see way too many wind turbines in Iowa, that are shut down at times because its too windy and unsafe for the turbines; also wind turbines tend to break down and the fiberglass material is not recyclable, there are plenty of graveyards of wind turbines, also wind turbines have short lifespans. Wind turbines do not kill that many birds but they do tend to devaste souring birds like hawks, eagles, sea birds, geese, and vultures; which tend to have a harder time reproducing.
Erik wrote: Wed Jun 01, 2022 4:52 pm In my experience as kid in rural Nebraska, all the educated/informed people leave.

Who remains? Nimby people aka cousins of Opie
This comment is uncalled for and is offensive to the many good people in western Nebraska, I lived in western Nebraska for many years and there are a lot of educated, moral people, with common sense in western Nebraska; especially in the agriculture industry, you do not see problems and violence as those in poor areas in rural Appalachia, Kentucky. Plus western Nebraska is even safer than even Omaha, an indication that Omaha has its share of not smart people too; its not good to denigrate either side of the state of Nebraska, as we are one state that cooperates to sustain each other.

Even within educated people, there are plenty of "educated" people that are nothing more than indoctrinated vessels, while there are also plenty of educated people that have a brain as well.
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Renovator2559 wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2023 12:52 pm Honestly, Solar energy is not consistent with delivering reliable power, plus all the manufacturing of the panels and batteries create plenty of pollution, the notion that solar energy in its current state is green energy, is an illusion. California rolling brown-outs and unreliable "green" energy, is not worth the premium "green" tax; I just hope Omaha relies more on mature cleaner forms of energy such as Natural Gas, hydro and Nuclear energy because Iowa chose to dip their toes in wind power and now Iowan's pay way more for power than Nebraskans and power which is inconsistent since I see way too many wind turbines in Iowa, that are shut down at times because its too windy and unsafe for the turbines; also wind turbines tend to break down and the fiberglass material is not recyclable, there are plenty of graveyards of wind turbines, also wind turbines have short lifespans. Wind turbines do not kill that many birds but they do tend to devaste souring birds like hawks, eagles, sea birds, geese, and vultures; which tend to have a harder time reproducing.
Erik wrote: Wed Jun 01, 2022 4:52 pm In my experience as kid in rural Nebraska, all the educated/informed people leave.

Who remains? Nimby people aka cousins of Opie
This comment is uncalled for and is offensive to the many good people in western Nebraska, I lived in western Nebraska for many years and there are a lot of educated, moral people, with common sense in western Nebraska; especially in the agriculture industry, you do not see problems and violence as those in poor areas in rural Appalachia, Kentucky. Plus western Nebraska is even safer than even Omaha, an indication that Omaha has its share of not smart people too; its not good to denigrate either side of the state of Nebraska, as we are one state that cooperates to sustain each other.

Even within educated people, there are plenty of "educated" people that are nothing more than indoctrinated vessels, while there are also plenty of educated people that have a brain as well.
I'm not sure where you got that solar energy is not consistent or reliable. Or where you got that the manufacturing process makes it at all equal in the truly planet destroying qualities of fossil fuels, even natural gas. Or where the incorporation of renewable energy has led to grid instability and blackouts/brownouts. Or where it is not a cost effective solution to expanding power generation, especially when compared to hydro power and nuclear. There are countless industry, news, and scientific articles demonstrating the cost parity (even cost advantage) of renewables such as wind and solar. So much so that solar is the single fastest growing power generating source on the planet, and that the cost of both wind and solar without storage is, on average, cheaper than ANY fossil fuel, including natural gas. That these two sources have variations due to weather or time of day is known, and able to be accounted for by the truly enormous corporations and national power providers the world over. When coupled with storage solutions such as batteries or pumped hydro, the variation in power delivery is even less. There is no "green premium tax." It is literally the cheapest option. I'm not even gonna touch the multibillion dollar per reactor nuclear football.

Regarding instability, the reason there have been blackouts and blowouts in California and Texas is not due to solar power, but by the significant increase in the demand for electricity at peak times of day (usually the late afternoon/early evening where people are returning home and air conditioning is turned on). In many of these cases the presence of renewable energy SAVED the grid, as it did in the Texas when natural gas pipelines froze leading to near complete collapse of the electric grid. The fact that in solar's case it can be generated right at home where the energy is used, and distributed throughout a region, makes it even more resilient.

As far as pollution from manufacturing, where to even begin. Yes there is pollution from manufacturing solar panels and wind turbines, and many of their components need to be mined. And you're right, the module and turbines do not last forever. But to compare this to the current and historical pollution from oil and gas companies that literally destroy entire ecosystems, poison oceans, and slowly broil all life on earth due to greenhouse gas emissions isn't just disingenuous, its laughably wrong (or at least it would be if the world wasn't literally on fire). I just can't take anyone seriously when the fake outrage on the health impact to bird populations is used as a reason not to build wind turbines, when climate change from fossil fuels is resulting in the next mass extinction event.

To bring this back to solar in the state of Nebraska, and renewable energy more broadly, I can't wait for the incorporation of more solar power generation into the mix at OPPD. The more wind the better as well. We need all of it, and we needed it yesterday.
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The other day I noticed a large solar farm going up a few miles straight south of Yutan. NE on Yutan Road.
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Again power production in Iowa is much more expensive than in Nebraska due to wind being a solely used. Nebraska is diverse in using from many power sources. Honestly hydro and Nuclear power is our best bet because the other power sources are neither cheap or as clean.

Germany used to have plenty of Nuclear power plants, natural gas but they have been shutting them down and relying on unreliable, inconsistent green energy. Now they have brown outs

https://www.dw.com/en/blackout-in-germa ... a-66302102

California did not have as many problems in the past and this Summer, Californis was telling its residents that they could only charge their cars for a few hours was concerning.

Meanwhile those that preach climate change and people flock to Florida to buy beachfront properties. Shouldn't the photo of the statue of liberty of then and now be much different in water level?

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Meanwhile the leading by leading by example billionares are busy preaching climate change to the masses, while they go to the Cop26 conference a in 2022, via 52 private jets and a total of 400 flying aircraft, releasing 13,000 tons of carbon emissions in their private jets which is as much as 1,600 Britons release in a single year.

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https://metro.co.uk/2021/11/01/billiona ... -15521675/

Also, why is China exempted from closing power plants up to 2030? Why is China opening the equivalent of 2 coal power plants a week (2022)?. Is the west commiting suicide, while pushing for solar cell, batteries and wind energy made in China?

https://energyandcleanair.org/publicati ... k-in-2022/

Many of us care of the environment but we also have to take into consideration consistency of words and actions of those that preach climate change and if they honestly believe what they preach and if green energies are truly sustainable economically and if they reduce carbon emissions as they claim.


Wind energy is not cheap, it's not even funny. Our economies are already burdened and on the verge of collapse, do we adopt green energy which is expensive and incosistent and increase the cost of everything in the process?
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By no means do I give a pass to Big Oil and Big Auto either. They have not only worked hand in hand and lobbied to get rid of reliable electrical streetcar networks in the past and replace them with less reliable diesel busses.

https://monacojerry.livejournal.com/41797.html

But also Big Oil founder David Rockefeller funded the medical system in the condition that natural remedies of the past were discarded in favor of petroleum based pharmaceuticals, which all cause side effects, that lead to imbalances and more frequent hospital visits.

https://universe-inside-you.com/rockefeller-big-pharma/

Meanwhile 45% of US water is polluted with forever chemicals (PFAS), pharmaceuticals, microplastics, which lead to mental disorders, developmental problems and partially reaponsible for the surge in medical visits. Instead of cleaning our water supply, I guess it's cheaper to mitigate health problems with an endless supply of pharmaceuticals?

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Is it ok to allow China to build 2 coal plants a week, while our economy suffers do to expensive green energy and ignore the cleanliness of our water?

https://www.usgs.gov/news/national-news ... -across-us

Honestly, hydro and nuclear are the most clean and consistent power sources, especially since nuclear is safe and is increasingly safer as the technology improves. Here in Nebraska we have low risks of natural disasters aswell.
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That's a lot of conspiracies in one post, damn my bingo card is filling up quick.
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Since 1900 water levels have risen anywhere from 5-8 inches (depending on time of year and distance from equator). That would be damn near imperceptible on those photos. Especially since there is clearly some structural work on the base that has occurred since then. Florida's population growth has nothing to do with climate change, just people wanting tropical weather, beaches, and no state income tax.
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Louie wrote: Thu Sep 21, 2023 11:39 am Since 1900 water levels have risen anywhere from 5-8 inches (depending on time of year and distance from equator). That would be damn near imperceptible on those photos. Especially since there is clearly some structural work on the base that has occurred since then. Florida's population growth has nothing to do with climate change, just people wanting tropical weather, beaches, and no state income tax.
Structural change has occurred cosmetically yes but have they raised the statue of liberty?

Also its 2023, Zoom calls are the most carbon neutral way to conduct a climate change conference. Looks like Cop27 as in Cop26, was a fleet of 400 private jets.

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... crisy.html

Also, China opening 2 coal power plants a week, while EU and US dismantles their own is a headscratcher. Come on people its a climate emergency, we need to act like it!
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You clearly have no clue what you're talking about, so you just ramble on and throw in some links that have nothing to do with the topic at hand.

This is not just an isolated incident either, it's your MO.
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Renovator2559 wrote: Thu Sep 21, 2023 12:27 pm
Louie wrote: Thu Sep 21, 2023 11:39 am Since 1900 water levels have risen anywhere from 5-8 inches (depending on time of year and distance from equator). That would be damn near imperceptible on those photos. Especially since there is clearly some structural work on the base that has occurred since then. Florida's population growth has nothing to do with climate change, just people wanting tropical weather, beaches, and no state income tax.
Structural change has occurred cosmetically yes but have they raised the statue of liberty?

Also its 2023, Zoom calls are the most carbon neutral way to conduct a climate change conference. Looks like Cop27 as in Cop26, was a fleet of 400 private jets.

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... crisy.html

Also, China opening 2 coal power plants a week, while EU and US dismantles their own is a headscratcher. Come on people its a climate emergency, we need to act like it!
If you'll note I didn't say a single word about either the conference or China. Those are hypocritical actions and I had no issue with that part of your comment. My comment was strictly on your assumption that a single long distance photo of the statue of liberty is your evidence against decades of climate science. If you don't want to admit climate change is real, fine, whatever, you have your own opinions (and you share them nonstop, good lord) but to use a picture like that is disingenuous and lazy.

And water level changes drastically based on the tide on a daily basis. It's not something you can pinpoint or prove in two |expletive| pictures like that.
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it's cloudy today, solar energy doesn't work.
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thenewguy wrote: Thu Sep 21, 2023 2:13 pm it's cloudy today, solar energy doesn't work.
Yeah! And what's if we do all these climate change mitigation efforts and find out there's catastrophic sea level rise anyway? We're just going to have clean air for nothing?!
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I think what's lost in all of these discussions on the direction forward is the way we distribute energy. I think the end goal should be to have each home generating its own power through whatever alternative source is available. Centralized power has its downsides. I think living off the grid is going to happen under the radar while no one is paying attention. With advances in battery storage capacity and integrating solar (among other things) into the design and construction of homes/businesses, this might become a reality sooner than we think. The way we integrate the power grid in this country makes us incredibly vulnerable to cyber attacks, so in a sense this is a national security issue. It probably won't insulate us from danger totally, but at least it'll keep your home safe.
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honestly, I've thought about adding a solar panel or two because of the fluctuating energy prices. It's an initial expense, but would more than pay for itself over time and then I would also not have to worry about outages any time the wind blows. We've also had multiple weeks where utility work has been done near our house and have lost power for multiple hours at a time either due to planned actions or accidentally cutting the wrong wire. It's a nuisance, of course, but it makes you think 'what if I didn't have to rely on the a-holes all the time?' The fact that it's "green" energy is a bonus
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Re: Nebraska Solar Energy

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thenewguy wrote: Thu Sep 21, 2023 2:13 pm it's cloudy today, solar energy doesn't work.
Just to point out to people who don't know, this was a joke. Solar power still generates when it is cloudy and can even generate during a full moon.
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Re: Nebraska Solar Energy

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thenewguy wrote: Mon Sep 25, 2023 7:41 am honestly, I've thought about adding a solar panel or two because of the fluctuating energy prices. It's an initial expense, but would more than pay for itself over time and then I would also not have to worry about outages any time the wind blows. We've also had multiple weeks where utility work has been done near our house and have lost power for multiple hours at a time either due to planned actions or accidentally cutting the wrong wire. It's a nuisance, of course, but it makes you think 'what if I didn't have to rely on the a-holes all the time?' The fact that it's "green" energy is a bonus
We've been debating adding a panel or two as well. The initial expense is pretty sizeable, but it would pay for itself in time. And the convenience in power outages would be a nice insurance.
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