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2011 Omaha Nighthawks
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Just heard on the Raido that the Nighthawks are OFFICIALLY now playing in TD Ameritrade Park Omaha.
Just heard on the Raido that the Nighthawks are OFFICIALLY now playing in TD Ameritrade Park Omaha.
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Just visited the TD Ameritrade Park the other day, covering the new food menus. Â Check out the article below.
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Omaha Nighthawks giving look to former Husker Eric Crouch
1620 was saying he was throwing better than they thought he could throw.Husker Extra wrote:Eric Crouch is giving pro football yet another try. The 2001 Heisman Trophy-winning quarterback from Nebraska is among 70 players participating in a minicamp this week for his hometown Omaha Nighthawks of the United Football League.
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I disagree. Â As much as I think he lost huge credibility by playing the prima donna with the NFL; the guy was a tremendous quarterback. Â They don't just hand those Heisman trophies out to anyone.nebugeater wrote:the1wags wrote:Any wagers on him making the roster? Pub stunt 101.
If he makes the roster then the UFL and Nighthawks loose a lot of credibility that I think they have banked.
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They already lost a lot of that credibility when they hired a coach who bought his way to become coach. Look at the other UFL coaches this season. In fact all the other 4 coaches have at least 100 NFL wins, ours has 0 head coaching wins at ANY level. I guess money can buy anything in this world.nebugeater wrote:the1wags wrote:Any wagers on him making the roster? Pub stunt 101.
If he makes the roster then the UFL and Nighthawks loose a lot of credibility that I think they have banked.
They would lose all credibility if they let a swing set sales men become their QB. This will just be another thing Crouch can cry about and quit.
And he was not a great QB, he was quick, could complete a few passes and ran the option great, that's what got him the Heisman. He then was a 4th string QB in the CFL, I would not call that a great QB. A good option QB yes, a good QB no.
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He was a good option quarterback in the days when that offense was still effective. That's not going to fly at the pro level, and Crouch lacks the skill set to quarterback any form of a pro style offense.HuskerDave wrote:I disagree. As much as I think he lost huge credibility by playing the prima donna with the NFL; the guy was a tremendous quarterback. They don't just hand those Heisman trophies out to anyone.
To be fair, the guy spent quite a bit of time in the college ranks and rose to a coordinator position, so he's not quite the cubicle jockey buying his way in that people think. That said, he's still been out of the game a long time and I'm expecting an epic fail. The Nighthawks undoubtedly have the most pathetic coaching staff in the league.cp jay 07 wrote:They already lost a lot of that credibility when they hired a coach who bought his way to become coach. Look at the other UFL coaches this season. In fact all the other 4 coaches have at least 100 NFL wins, ours has 0 head coaching wins at ANY level. I guess money can buy anything in this world.
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Nighthawks Unveil 2011 UFL Schedule
Our Sports Central wrote:Omaha Nighthawks schedule
Week 1 Sunday, August 14 at Sacramento
Week 2 Sunday, August 21 VIRGINIA
Week 3 Saturday, August 27 at Las Vegas
Week 4 Friday, September 2 at Virginia
Week 5 Bye
Week 6 Sunday, September 18 SACRAMENTO
Week 7 Friday, September 23 at Hartford
Week 8 Friday, September 30 LAS VEGAS
Week 9 Bye
Week 10 Saturday, October 15 HARTFORD
Its not that the option wouldn't be effective anymore its just nobody really runs it outside of Georgia Tech and a handful of other teams. Â Everything in college football is cyclical, I guarantee in years to come there will be some team that comes out with what is considered a cutting edge option scheme. Â I remember reading a Joe Paterno interview when he was talking about how in the 1960s the spread offense was huge and then dissapeared until it got big again in the late 1990s/early 2000s.Bosco55David wrote:He was a good option quarterback in the days when that offense was still effective. That's not going to fly at the pro level, and Crouch lacks the skill set to quarterback any form of a pro style offense.HuskerDave wrote:I disagree. As much as I think he lost huge credibility by playing the prima donna with the NFL; the guy was a tremendous quarterback. They don't just hand those Heisman trophies out to anyone.
To be fair, the guy spent quite a bit of time in the college ranks and rose to a coordinator position, so he's not quite the cubicle jockey buying his way in that people think. That said, he's still been out of the game a long time and I'm expecting an epic fail. The Nighthawks undoubtedly have the most pathetic coaching staff in the league.cp jay 07 wrote:They already lost a lot of that credibility when they hired a coach who bought his way to become coach. Look at the other UFL coaches this season. In fact all the other 4 coaches have at least 100 NFL wins, ours has 0 head coaching wins at ANY level. I guess money can buy anything in this world.
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In college, maybe. There is a reason that the option has never, and never will be used at the pro level.Linkin5 wrote:Its not that the option wouldn't be effective anymore its just nobody really runs it outside of Georgia Tech and a handful of other teams. Everything in college football is cyclical, I guarantee in years to come there will be some team that comes out with what is considered a cutting edge option scheme. I remember reading a Joe Paterno interview when he was talking about how in the 1960s the spread offense was huge and then dissapeared until it got big again in the late 1990s/early 2000s.Bosco55David wrote:He was a good option quarterback in the days when that offense was still effective. That's not going to fly at the pro level, and Crouch lacks the skill set to quarterback any form of a pro style offense.HuskerDave wrote:I disagree. As much as I think he lost huge credibility by playing the prima donna with the NFL; the guy was a tremendous quarterback. They don't just hand those Heisman trophies out to anyone.
To be fair, the guy spent quite a bit of time in the college ranks and rose to a coordinator position, so he's not quite the cubicle jockey buying his way in that people think. That said, he's still been out of the game a long time and I'm expecting an epic fail. The Nighthawks undoubtedly have the most pathetic coaching staff in the league.cp jay 07 wrote:They already lost a lot of that credibility when they hired a coach who bought his way to become coach. Look at the other UFL coaches this season. In fact all the other 4 coaches have at least 100 NFL wins, ours has 0 head coaching wins at ANY level. I guess money can buy anything in this world.
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I don't know whether to agree or not with this. Pro level as in the NFL - no - even though they still draft a Tebow or Newton. Vick could have been - but he never studied or tried hard enough. Vince Young flamed. Steve Young ran well back when.Bosco55David wrote:In college, maybe. There is a reason that the option has never, and never will be used at the pro level.
But the number one reason this wouldn't work in the NFL is the salary of the QB. One hit and your $20 mill QB is out for the season.
Now I think the UFL is different. Put Masoli and Crouch and one other running QB on your roster and I think you could put together an offensive scheme that would work.
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There is a place for scrambling quarterbacks in the league, but no option.Coyote wrote:I don't know whether to agree or not with this. Pro level as in the NFL - no - even though they still draft a Tebow or Newton. Vick could have been - but he never studied or tried hard enough. Vince Young flamed. Steve Young ran well back when.
$20 million these days is a league average starter. For reference, Peyton Manning signed a 7 year/$99 million dollar contract back in 2004.But the number one reason this wouldn't work in the NFL is the salary of the QB. One hit and your $20 mill QB is out for the season.
Highly doubtful. The UFL is full of borderline NFL talent and even that is head and shoulders above the college ranks where the option is a viable. These guys are simply too big and too fast for that offense to work.Now I think the UFL is different. Put Masoli and Crouch and one other running QB on your roster and I think you could put together an offensive scheme that would work.
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Bosco55David wrote:There is a place for scrambling quarterbacks in the league, but no option.Coyote wrote:I don't know whether to agree or not with this. Pro level as in the NFL - no - even though they still draft a Tebow or Newton. Vick could have been - but he never studied or tried hard enough. Vince Young flamed. Steve Young ran well back when.
$20 million these days is a league average starter. For reference, Peyton Manning signed a 7 year/$99 million dollar contract back in 2004.But the number one reason this wouldn't work in the NFL is the salary of the QB. One hit and your $20 mill QB is out for the season.
Highly doubtful. The UFL is full of borderline NFL talent and even that is head and shoulders above the college ranks where the option is a viable. These guys are simply too big and too fast for that offense to work.Now I think the UFL is different. Put Masoli and Crouch and one other running QB on your roster and I think you could put together an offensive scheme that would work.
Will be interesting to see if the talent level in the UFL is as good this year. Â With the money troubles last year and the players almost going on strike at the end of last year, there may be some residual effect. Â I know some players that played in the UFL last year cited money troubles and went to the CFL....
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Apparently the Nighthawks are planning on trying something "innovative" in their offense this year. Â Not sure what it is, but a triple option isn't entirely out of the realm of possibility.Coyote wrote:I don't know whether to agree or not with this. Pro level as in the NFL - no - even though they still draft a Tebow or Newton. Vick could have been - but he never studied or tried hard enough. Vince Young flamed. Steve Young ran well back when.Bosco55David wrote:In college, maybe. There is a reason that the option has never, and never will be used at the pro level.
But the number one reason this wouldn't work in the NFL is the salary of the QB. One hit and your $20 mill QB is out for the season.
Now I think the UFL is different. Put Masoli and Crouch and one other running QB on your roster and I think you could put together an offensive scheme that would work.
I think the only reason the option isn't used more in the pros is that old standby "we've always done it this way."
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That's a good point.Stargazer wrote:I don't think you could find a QB durable enough to make it work in the NFL... perhaps in a short UFL season.
Personally, I'd love to see an NFL team take a chance on a less-traditional offensive scheme, and perhaps use a $5 million QB, instead of the pass-happy $25 million guys. Â I'm sure there would be a long line of overlooked QBs who were tough as nails running the option in college. Â It's tough to be successful in the NFL if you can't run the ball effectively, so maybe the option would work...
I have a feeling they'd be successful, even against the bigger, faster defenses in the NFL.
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HuskerDave wrote:Personally, I'd love to see an NFL team take a chance on a less-traditional offensive scheme
Watch the Broncos, Patriots or Rams then. Josh McDaniels took the Erhardt-Perkins offense and fused it with the Urban Meyer's Zone Read Option. That's the first true offensive innovation we've seen in over a decade and only those three teams even attempt to run it.
And how did the Broncos do? Â :;):Bosco55David wrote:HuskerDave wrote:Personally, I'd love to see an NFL team take a chance on a less-traditional offensive scheme
Watch the Broncos, Patriots or Rams then. Josh McDaniels took the Erhardt-Perkins offense and fused it with the Urban Meyer's Zone Read Option. That's the first true offensive innovation we've seen in over a decade and only those three teams even attempt to run it.
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Ranked 7th in passing with the league's leading receiver.cp jay 07 wrote:And how did the Broncos do? :;):Bosco55David wrote:HuskerDave wrote:Personally, I'd love to see an NFL team take a chance on a less-traditional offensive scheme
Watch the Broncos, Patriots or Rams then. Josh McDaniels took the Erhardt-Perkins offense and fused it with the Urban Meyer's Zone Read Option. That's the first true offensive innovation we've seen in over a decade and only those three teams even attempt to run it.
and you had jebus on your side.Bosco55David wrote:Ranked 7th in passing with the league's leading receiver.cp jay 07 wrote:And how did the Broncos do? :;):Bosco55David wrote:HuskerDave wrote:Personally, I'd love to see an NFL team take a chance on a less-traditional offensive scheme
Watch the Broncos, Patriots or Rams then. Josh McDaniels took the Erhardt-Perkins offense and fused it with the Urban Meyer's Zone Read Option. That's the first true offensive innovation we've seen in over a decade and only those three teams even attempt to run it.
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Bosco55David wrote:Ranked 7th in passing with the league's leading receiver.cp jay 07 wrote:And how did the Broncos do? :;):Bosco55David wrote:HuskerDave wrote:Personally, I'd love to see an NFL team take a chance on a less-traditional offensive scheme
Watch the Broncos, Patriots or Rams then. Josh McDaniels took the Erhardt-Perkins offense and fused it with the Urban Meyer's Zone Read Option. That's the first true offensive innovation we've seen in over a decade and only those three teams even attempt to run it.
I must have missed the Ponies playoff game while I was at the Chiefs playoff game. My bad.
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Silly me. I figured that when you interjected yourself into a discussion about offensive schemes that you were asking about the success of that particular scheme. But, since you want to just make team on team smack talk I figure now would be a good time to point out that anyone born on the day of the last Chiefs playoff victory is about 6 months away from reaching voting age.cp jay 07 wrote:I must have missed the Ponies playoff game while I was at the Chiefs playoff game. My bad.
Food for thought. Â :;):
Has there been a discussion here of the long term viability of the UFL and the correlation with the attendance success of the Nighthawks in relation to possibly getting an NFL team or having the team absorbed by the NFL should the UFL fail or get bought out?
That scenario is the only reason I'm hoping the lockout remains in place through out the season...to increase the value of the UFL to the point where the NFL decides to pull another AFL merger.
That scenario is the only reason I'm hoping the lockout remains in place through out the season...to increase the value of the UFL to the point where the NFL decides to pull another AFL merger.
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I highly doubt we'll see any NFL expansions in the near future. We saw one just less than a decade ago that got us to 32 teams and required re-alignment of divisions, so I doubt they will want to go down that road again for awhile. Even if they do expand, they seem to have their eyes on either L.A or San Antonio markets. I could see the UFL being absorbed into the NFL as the sort of minor/developmental league that they've been missing since NFL Europe went under.
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Recently there were 5 teams that would be open to movement - those 2 were the only ones I could see moving. I did not hear of the info about St Louis that you mentioned. Do after that I can only see Jacksonville or an expansion team going to LA. I still see a team in LA within a few years. I can't remember what corporation/money is behind this - but there is huge bucks ready to go there.
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I could see Jacksonville moving. They have horrible fan support and have had to close off entire sections of their stadium to avoid blackouts. I went to the season opener when they played Denver last year and even despite Tebow (Jacksonville native) being there, there were alot of empty seats and us Bronco fans almost outnumbered the Jaguars fans.Coyote wrote:Recently there were 5 teams that would be open to movement - those 2 were the only ones I could see moving. I did not hear of the info about St Louis that you mentioned. Do after that I can only see Jacksonville or an expansion team going to LA. I still see a team in LA within a few years. I can't remember what corporation/money is behind this - but there is huge bucks ready to go there.
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There are a couple different players behind that. I know both Al Davis and the Chargers owner (forget his name) are using L.A as a bargaining chip to get better stadium deals where they are. There is also a businessman (or men, I forget) that have been pushing for another expansion team, but I forget their names as well.Coyote wrote:Bosco - I am too lazy to look it p this evening...
Who is the man behind bringing NFL back to LA?
I can't see the Raiders ever going back. Â One of the major reasons they left is because of LA gangs' adoption of the team and the fan scene at the games being pretty scary which Al Davis did not like. Â I am thinking at this point the most likely team that will uproot is going to be the Chargers, would be a shame for that city though.Bosco55David wrote:There are a couple different players behind that. I know both Al Davis and the Chargers owner (forget his name) are using L.A as a bargaining chip to get better stadium deals where they are. There is also a businessman (or men, I forget) that have been pushing for another expansion team, but I forget their names as well.Coyote wrote:Bosco - I am too lazy to look it p this evening...
Who is the man behind bringing NFL back to LA?
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I would call bullshit on that, but Al Davis is batshit crazy, so I could see him believing that.Linkin5 wrote:I can't see the Raiders ever going back. One of the major reasons they left is because of LA gangs' adoption of the team and the fan scene at the games being pretty scary which Al Davis did not like. I am thinking at this point the most likely team that will uproot is going to be the Chargers, would be a shame for that city though.