Big 10 Grows again

Post by **nebugeater** » Mon Nov 19, 2012 10:36 am

There is a 1:30 central time press conference just anounced that will be on the Big 10 network. Â It is to anounce that maryland will be joining the Big 10. Â Their Regents aproved this AM

Linkin5 · Post by **Linkin5** » Mon Nov 19, 2012 10:42 am

I'm good with Maryland but please do not add Rutgers.

Big E · Post by **Big E** » Mon Nov 19, 2012 1:30 pm

Linkin5 wrote:I'm good with Maryland but please do not add Rutgers.

Why not? Â If anything I'd want it exactly the opposite of what you said.

Either way, it's 100% about TV sets. Â Nebraska should count itself incredibly lucky to have been in on the ground floor of the realignment nightmares, because there's more coming and no one in their right mind would leave the Big Ten and it's TV contract.

TitosBuritoBarn · Post by **TitosBuritoBarn** » Mon Nov 19, 2012 1:40 pm

I'm happy to see both of them join. It seems like it could only be good for Nebraska. Mo' money, mo' money.

Post by **nebugeater** » Mon Nov 19, 2012 1:49 pm

Hearing that Ill will move to the Legends dicision and MD and RT will join the Leaders.

Linkin5 · Post by **Linkin5** » Mon Nov 19, 2012 4:44 pm

Big E wrote:
Linkin5 wrote:I'm good with Maryland but please do not add Rutgers.
Why not? If anything I'd want it exactly the opposite of what you said.

Either way, it's 100% about TV sets. Nebraska should count itself incredibly lucky to have been in on the ground floor of the realignment nightmares, because there's more coming and no one in their right mind would leave the Big Ten and it's TV contract.

Because I am looking at it as someone who doesn't want a subpar athletic program in the B1G, rather than how many television sets it adds.

Post by **Coyote** » Mon Nov 19, 2012 4:51 pm

From what I just heard both of their academic programs are better than NU's. Both athletic programs are cash stressed, but bring a huge market. So will BTN now carry Lacrosse?

S33 · Post by **S33** » Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:42 pm

Rutgers and Maryland are the only viable choices for expanding into the northestern seaboard market. That's another 50 million people added to the B1G market area, about equal to our entire market currently.

I'll take a few more cupcake games a year (assuming one year Nebraska will be good enough to have a cupcake conference game) and an increased revenue stream anyday.

Big E · Post by **Big E** » Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:08 pm

Linkin5 wrote:
Big E wrote:
Linkin5 wrote:I'm good with Maryland but please do not add Rutgers.
Why not? If anything I'd want it exactly the opposite of what you said.

Either way, it's 100% about TV sets. Nebraska should count itself incredibly lucky to have been in on the ground floor of the realignment nightmares, because there's more coming and no one in their right mind would leave the Big Ten and it's TV contract.
Because I am looking at it as someone who doesn't want a subpar athletic program in the B1G, rather than how many television sets it adds.

Then eliminate 7 or 8 current schools from the big ten.

jessep28 · Post by **jessep28** » Tue Nov 20, 2012 2:10 pm

Post by **BRoss** » Tue Nov 20, 2012 2:13 pm

So do you think we are heading towards super conferences? It sure looks that way to me.

Linkin5 · Post by **Linkin5** » Tue Nov 20, 2012 2:35 pm

Big E wrote:
Linkin5 wrote:
Big E wrote:
Linkin5 wrote:I'm good with Maryland but please do not add Rutgers.
Why not? If anything I'd want it exactly the opposite of what you said.

Either way, it's 100% about TV sets. Nebraska should count itself incredibly lucky to have been in on the ground floor of the realignment nightmares, because there's more coming and no one in their right mind would leave the Big Ten and it's TV contract.
Because I am looking at it as someone who doesn't want a subpar athletic program in the B1G, rather than how many television sets it adds.
Then eliminate 7 or 8 current schools from the big ten.

You are saying there are 7-8 current B1G schools that have worse/on the same level athletic programs than Rutgers? Â

Even if that was true then why water the league down even more?

Big E · Post by **Big E** » Tue Nov 20, 2012 3:24 pm

Linkin5 wrote:You are saying there are 7-8 current B1G schools that have worse/on the same level athletic programs than Rutgers?

No. I'm saying there are 7-8 current schools with subpar athletic programs. Â Not necessarily as bad as Rutgers, but definitely subpar. Â Take NU, Michigan, Ohio State and Penn State off the table and what do you have? Â Even a couple of those are suspect if you're going to be really picky (and I include Nebraska on the suspect list over the last decade). Â Guess part of it matters what you consider "sub-par", as well. Â Having a good basketball team doesn't cut it in my book.

Linkin5 wrote:Even if that was true then why water the league down even more?

All of the above being said, it doesn't matter. Â This is 100% about selling the BTN, and that depends on two things: football and TV sets. Â Period. Â End of discussion. Â Rutgers and Maryland could bring a CRAPLOAD of the former.

Now, I readily admit this is a huge gamble, but if it pays off... Â holy |expletive|. Â I also kind of hope they have a good chunk of the deal put together behind closed doors and are just waiting for some formalities, but that's purely my speculation.

Post by **Brad** » Tue Nov 20, 2012 3:31 pm

They were discussing it on the radio Yesterday. Â Those 50+ Million TV sets times whatever the B1G charges cable providers to carry that channel was a |expletive| ton amount of money. Â It was in the Millions of dollars per school per year.

cp jay 07 · Post by **cp jay 07** » Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:36 am

S33 wrote:Rutgers and Maryland are the only viable choices for expanding into the northestern seaboard market. That's another 50 million people added to the B1G market area, about equal to our entire market currently.

I'll take a few more cupcake games a year (assuming one year Nebraska will be good enough to have a cupcake conference game) and an increased revenue stream anyday.

Syracuse, BC, Pitt? Many more fans, tradition and Alumni $

Rutgers is a joke of a athletic program, they did a stadium expansion to go to 50,000 but not can't even sell tickets so they are in debt, and now they have to come up with at least 20 million or wait 27 months to join the B1G. Darren Rovel has been tweeting some great facts about how Rutgirls does NOT bring the B1G NYC, it brings them a couple douchey guidos in NJ who started following college football in 2007. Oh and their BBall program gets outdrawn by high school teams in NJ. Schiano is gone so it will be interesting to see what happens when Flood has to recruit against the likes of OSU and the rest of the B1G

As a Syracuse fan I think the ACC is a better fit being an East Coast school but Im worried on what happens when the 4 16 team super conferences start picking, tradition can only go so far.

Also kinda odd neither school has hockey considering the B1G just added hockey and is still only has 6 teams I believe. Thats where I thought BC had an advantage.

Big E · Post by **Big E** » Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:49 am

cp jay 07 wrote:Darren Rovel has been tweeting some great facts about how Rutgirls does NOT bring the B1G NYC, it brings them a couple douchey guidos in NJ who started following college football in 2007.

The thing most are overlooking on this one is it doesn't have to be Rutgers fans in the NYC area or Maryland fans in the DC areas. It just has to be enough subscribers to "move the needle" as the following article points out:

http://espn.go.com/blog/bigten/post/_/i ... -is-itself

Again, a risk, but I think a very shrewdly calculated one. Â Time will tell. Â Nebraska wasn't added because of the 1.8 million people in Nebraska. Â Nebraska was added because they are one of the few national brands that would light up cable providers' phones looking for the BTN.

Keep in mind NU was coming off it's worst decade of football in 60 years when they were added to the B10. Â It's the same reason NBC kept showing Notre Dame during the 5-7 years of Bob Davies and the 3-9 years of Charlie Weis.

iamjacobm · Post by **iamjacobm** » Wed Nov 21, 2012 11:52 am

A big thing is that News Corp9Fox Sports parent company) is now a huge stake holder in YES Network. Â The talk is that they will leverage YES and B1G Network that you have to take both in the New York market. Â If a Yankee fan wants to watch his team he is going to have to subscribe to B1G too. Â The numbers there are something like 15 million households.

Post by **Coyote** » Sat May 24, 2014 10:15 am

With Maryland joining the B1G next year, people are watching the ACC Baseball tournament, where as #6 seed they have defeated #3 seed Virginia and #2 seed FSU to start.

Post by **Coyote** » Sat May 24, 2014 8:30 pm

ACC Championship

#9 Georgia Tech. 12:00
#6 Maryland. ESPN 2

Greg S · Post by **Greg S** » Mon May 26, 2014 6:25 pm

With the subscriber agreements BTN has been signing in NYC, it appears Rutgers did bring in that TV market.

Greg

guitarguy · Post by **guitarguy** » Mon May 26, 2014 11:26 pm

The only reason Rutgers were even offered into the B1G is because the BTN wanted the NYC market.

Greg S · Post by **Greg S** » Tue May 27, 2014 8:36 am

Exactly. However, some debated on here that it would deliver the NYC market. It did.

Greg

Post by **nebugeater** » Tue May 27, 2014 10:08 am

Greg S wrote:Exactly. However, some debated on here that it would deliver the NYC market. It did.

Greg

Would love to see what the contract cost is for these carriers vs carriers in the other B1G areas. That, and the jury will still be out on the # of viewers.

guitarguy · Post by **guitarguy** » Tue May 27, 2014 10:59 am

Well I can vouch for cable prices in NYC being about double what they are here.. so with that in mind I'm assuming they jacked the rates up vs other areas. For the most part though NYers aren't really into Rutgers and most identify with Penn State and Notre Dame being their favorite teams.

Post by **nebugeater** » Tue May 27, 2014 11:39 am

guitarguy wrote:Well I can vouch for cable prices in NYC being about double what they are here.. so with that in mind I'm assuming they jacked the rates up vs other areas. For the most part though NYers aren't really into Rutgers and most identify with Penn State and Notre Dame being their favorite teams.

I would lean towards the per subscriber cost for the B1G network to be less in the NY area than in the rest of the footprint BECAUSE they are not screaming for it.

guitarguy · Post by **guitarguy** » Tue May 27, 2014 11:56 am

While I do agree that would make more sense.. From what I observed in NYC is that these companies don't care at all to make things affordable in an attempt to get more subscribers. There is only 3 providers for the entire NYC Metro area ( Cablevision, Time Warner, DirectTv ) the first 2 are the more offending companies with unreasonable prices while DTV is cheaper and already has BTN.

HskrFanMike · Post by **HskrFanMike** » Tue May 27, 2014 12:31 pm

Can you even get DirecTV in the urban areas with all of the skyscrapers?

Listened to Jim Delany talk quite a bit this weekend about the expansion, and it isn't about Rutgers and Maryland, the schools. They are just vehicles that open up those metro areas. What the Big Ten wants to do is energize the alums of Michigan, Ohio State, and Penn State in those markets, specifically by bringing those teams into those markets.

The BTN money is big. What's even bigger is going to ESPN/ABC, Fox, CBS, and NBC in a year or two, to talk about a new TV contract that energizes not only people in the midwest, but also has gained traction in New York City.

guitarguy · Post by **guitarguy** » Tue May 27, 2014 3:47 pm

Well regarding DirectTv in Manhattan.. most people don't LIVE in Manhattan so its not as much of an issue with Satellite reception.. ( the people who do live in Manhattan pay ridiculous rent payments every month so an extra 50 a month on cable is nothing ).. It's pretty common in the other buroughs though.

NYC has a lot of rules about granting cable contracts and only grants a contract to the highest bidder and to the companies who employ only union workers. ( Messed up I know )

Post by **Coyote** » Tue Jul 01, 2014 7:42 am

Maryland and Rutgers are now officially members of the B1G. B1G now has East and West divisions. RIP Legends and Leaders.

Post by **Coyote** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 10:09 am

Dave Wannstedt is now part of the B1G Network?

Post by **nebugeater** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 12:00 pm

Coyote wrote:Dave Wannstedt is now part of the B1G Network?

Well they always need someone to hold the Parabolic mike on the sideline

Post by **Coyote** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 1:43 pm

At the B1G Media day, 6 of the 14 radio stations covering the B1G are from Nebraska.

Post by **nebugeater** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 2:33 pm

Coyote wrote:At the B1G Media day, 6 of the 14 radio stations covering the B1G are from Nebraska.

OK, that is crazy
I would guess
1620 (omaha) since they are there for sure.
590 (omaha)
1240 AM ( lincoln) ??
1110 KFAB(omaha) are they counting them since Shawn Callahan is there but not really for them but as a reporting affiliate.
1400 (lincoln)

OK that would be five. Who else and who on this list is wrong?

Post by **Coyote** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 2:45 pm

nebugeater wrote:
Coyote wrote:At the B1G Media day, 6 of the 14 radio stations covering the B1G are from Nebraska.
ha! I was going to try to guess the 6 myself, but only came up with your same 5. Maybe a the Tri-City station?

OK, that is crazy
I would guess
1620 (omaha) since they are there for sure.
590 (omaha)
1240 AM ( lincoln) ??
1110 KFAB(omaha) are they counting them since Shawn Callahan is there but not really for them but as a reporting affiliate.
1400 (lincoln)

OK that would be five. Who else and who on this list is wrong?

iamjacobm · Post by **iamjacobm** » Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:28 pm

Is The Bottom Line(OWH) technically radio? Online radio?

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