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7 years and not less than 9 wins each season. To put that in perspective Kirk Ferentz has coached for 16 years and only has 5 seasons with 9 or more wins.
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Peleni stacked up wins. But against quality opponents, not so much. We have been stagnating and if NU wants 9&3 against the bottom of the Big 10, then he is your man. If you want more, he is not.

If you want sideline demeanor and grass roots appeal, and a real walk on program like Osborne had, he is not.
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Pelini was warned last year that he was on thin ice. Pelini was doomed from the start when he decided to go with Tommy Armstrong as quarterback this year. The next coach would do well to move Tommy Armstrong to a new position and start hunting for a QB.
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Bo Pelini out as Husker football coach; press conference at 1 p.m.
CHRIS MACHIAN/THE WORLD-HERALD wrote:Nebraska football coach Bo Pelini was fired Sunday morning, ending his 7-season tenure in which the team went 67-27.

Athletic Director Shawn Eichorst called a press conference for 1 p.m. in West Memorial Stadium to talk about the firing.

"Earlier this morning, I informed Coach Bo Pelini of our decision to move forward in a new direction," Eichorst said in a prepared statement. "Coach Pelini served our University admirably for seven years and led our football program’s transition to the Big Ten Conference. We wish Coach Pelini and his wonderful family all the best and thank him for his dedicated service to the University."
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9 wins a season but this says something about this number

Bo Pelini went 26-25 against opponents that finished with winning records. 40-2 against .500 or worse.
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I wonder who Bill Callahan 2.0 is going to be?
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nebugeater wrote:9 wins a season but this says something about this number  

Bo Pelini went 26-25 against opponents that finished with winning records. 40-2 against .500 or worse.
Exactly. No one cares that you won against a bottom tier team. No one is going to move from Cali or Texas to Lincoln to play football to be 40/2 against weak teams. They will move there to win titles. No one wants to walk on and risk injury to be on an also ran team.

Pelini had to have stepped up this year and didn't. When multiple games have announcers wondering if this is the best the Huskers will ever be, something had to change.
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Nine wins does not win a trophy. Nebraska Standards are Championships, character counts.
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Some inclination that there were off the field issues that were kept underwraps played into it. I knew of a few "incidents" that weren't reported, but I wonder if there were others.
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When "off the field" was mentioned several times, it really makes you wonder how much we don't know that went into this decision, how much we may never know...
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Who's going to want to come to Nebraska to coach knowing they can be fired for 9 wins a year? What if we end up with another Bill Callahan-type coach?
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Heres the Vegas Odds on who's coming.

Jim Tressel - Unemployed
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Scott Frost - Oregon OC
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Jim McElwain - Colorado State HC
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Mark Richt - Georgia HC
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Joe Moglia - Coastal Carolina HC
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Interesting list. For weeks I've been saying Moglia HC, Frost OC, Muschamp DC....
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In my not so humble opinion, firing Bo is a very short-sighted and stupid move!
Coyote wrote:When "off the field" was mentioned several times, it really makes you wonder how much we don't know that went into this decision, how much we may never know...
I was wondering about that too. I know that with Frankie there was evidence of some extracurricular dalliances, but Bo seems like such a straight shooter. Oh well ...
What if we end up with another Bill Callahan-type coach?
I hope they learned their lesson the last go-round. But with the firing of Bo, in and of itself, they may not have. :(
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mrsticka wrote:Who's going to want to come to Nebraska to coach knowing they can be fired for 9 wins a year?  What if we end up with another Bill Callahan-type coach?
When the dump truck full of cash pulls up in his driveway none of that will matter.They may hire another Callahan, but it won't be b/c everybody was scared off by the nine win thing.
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Omababe wrote:In my not so humble opinion, firing Bo is a very short-sighted and stupid move!
Coyote wrote:When "off the field" was mentioned several times, it really makes you wonder how much we don't know that went into this decision, how much we may never know...
I was wondering about that too. I know that with Frankie there was evidence of some extracurricular dalliances, but Bo seems like such a straight shooter. Oh well ...
What if we end up with another Bill Callahan-type coach?
I hope they learned their lesson the last go-round. But with the firing of Bo, in and of itself, they may not have. :(
As to learning "their" lesson, never underestimate the ability of someone to repeat the same mistake expecting a different outcome. As far as who is ultimately hired, my opinion is that the days of "generational hiring" are over. I'm not saying it can't happen but the Devaney/Osborne era is over. That era had assistant coaches who also stayed for decades. THAT is how you build a dynasty. It is extremely hard to accomplish especially in this day and age. It's no different than in business. It takes discipline and determination to build a pipeline of leadership. You need an extremely long view and laser like vision. In the day of instant gratification it's almost impossible.

On the other hand it is college football. Not brain surgery or mission critical necessity. The sun comes up every day....even the days after a humiliating loss or the inevitable end of the sellout streak.
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NovakOmaha wrote: As to learning "their" lesson, never underestimate the ability of someone to repeat the same mistake expecting a different outcome.  As far as who is ultimately hired, my opinion is that the days of "generational hiring" are over.  I'm not saying it can't happen but the Devaney/Osborne era is over.  That era had assistant coaches who also stayed for decades.  THAT is how you build a dynasty.  It is extremely hard to accomplish especially in this day and age.  It's no different than in business.  It takes discipline and determination to build a pipeline of leadership.  You need an extremely long view and laser like vision.  In the day of instant gratification it's almost impossible.  

On the other hand it is college football.  Not brain surgery or mission critical necessity.  The sun comes up every day....even the days after a humiliating loss or the inevitable end of the sellout streak.
Difficult to be sure. When is the last time you heard of Pellini or one of the assistants going out to talk at a sports banquet in some small town? In the Devaney era, this was just a normal Friday night. In the Osborne era, same thing. Those guys knew that they had problems back in the day and they needed to keep their fan base happy. When down years came, it wasn't "fire the coach", it was "I like Bob and don't want him fired". This guy simply couldn't win big games and couldn't develop that grass roots fan support. He ran out of time to do these things.

I want to know what price Eichorst is paying for signing the extension when Pelini had the same crappy performance last season in terms of winning the big games. We would have dealt with this last year and we would be seeing NU paying a lot less money.
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Just kind of a feeling I have here --- I'm doubting that they canned Bo without a definite heir presumptive to the throne. My hunch is that somebody already said "yes" to an offer.
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My money is on CSU's coach. I don't think they go the coordinator route again with Frost.
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Eichorsts confident body language during the press conference leads me to believe that we may be about to make a big time hire. Been a lot of rumblings about Tressel and rumors of seeing him around Lincoln. Being close to Osborne it could either mean he's the guy or he's consulting for the university but it feels like they already have a hire made that they are excited about.

If the new coach ends up being Tressel I would be more than pumped since he is similar to Saban with attention to detail and the Xs and Os part of the game.
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As an outsider looking in there is no way it is Tressel. He can't even coach next year and any school that hires him could be subject to sanctions from his OSU days. For as clean cut as Lincoln likes itself to look like I cannot see them bringing in a guy that in two head coaching jobs had the schools hit with major sanctions at the end of his tenure.
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Tressel doesn't look too likely to me either. He spent his whole life in Ohio. I can't see him coming to a school that he would perceive as a step down from Ohio St.. He already achieved great things at Ohio St....why would he be interested in Nebraska? (other than money?) He must still have some loyalty left to Ohio St. ...Plus, I can't stand those sweater vests he used to wear at Ohio St.

It would be great if Scott Frost was destined to be a great head coach. All great head coaches start somewhere. He certainly knows what it takes to be part of a National Championship team. I don't know if he has the leadership skills to be a head coach, but being a top notch quarterback and offensive coordinator is a good start. It's a gamble NU might not be willing to take, even though I hope they do.

..on the other hand...now that I've read a little about Joe Moglia...maybe Coyote is right....Moglia HC, Frost OC...dunno about Muschamp as DC.
Moglia would get good support from the movers and shakers from the business world in Nebraska. We know football is all about the money now anyway, right?

Maybe Bo will go to Florida or Michigan.
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Coyote wrote:Interesting list. For weeks I've been saying Moglia HC, Frost OC, Muschamp DC....
I like this. With a 5 year transition for Frost to takeover. However, I bet that Muschamp will go to Auburn or maybe South Carolina before here.
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Bo's Record at Nebraska:
9-17 Against Ranked Teams
0 Top 5 Finishes
0 Top 10 Finishes
0 Conference Championships
0 Major Bowls
0 Major Bowl Wins
0 Undefeated Seasons
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Tressel could coach next year, just not the first 5 games, championship game, or bowl game. after that he is free to coach all games. some of the talking heads say his terms could be "lawyered down." aside from that, he would still run practices, still recruit players, and has proven success. I like pelini, but he had difficulty landing recruits. tressel wouldnt suffer as many misses recruiting and would definitely be able to land some quality coaches along the way too.
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"Was not winning the games that mattered most"

That pretty much wraps this big cluster |expletive| into a little ball. It's true. He was winning, but not the games that mattered most.

The argument "who would want to come here after a 9-3 coach is fired", is just plain lazy. The entire country is fully aware that under Pelini's 7 seasons as Nebraska head coach, his team had the propensity to fall flat on its face on the national stage.

The university sent a good message by dismissing Pelini, and even at the risk of winding up with another Callahan, achieving greatness is worth the gamble.

Husker fans should thank Pelini for his dedication to the program and putting out that dumpster fire that it was, and wish him the best wherever he ends up, but it was time to move on.

Also, the insinuation of not meeting "off-the-field" expectations is interesting, and I hope there isn't anything behind that which we don't already know.
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Coyote wrote:Interesting list. For weeks I've been saying Moglia HC, Frost OC, Muschamp DC....
Replace Moglia with CSU's head coach, and that may be the dream team of coaches (for Nebraska)
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iamjacobm wrote:My money is on CSU's coach.  I don't think they go the coordinator route again with Frost.
And it looks like Florida is probably going to get him.
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Do you think that Eichorst has a plane sitting on the tarmac in Fayetteville to see if Bret gets on it?
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jessep28 wrote:Do you think that Eichorst has a plane sitting on the tarmac in Fayetteville to see if Bret gets on it?
It would certainly take the Wisconsin rivalry to another level.
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Bielema seems like a good choice. Afterall, he is in the legendary coaching tree of Hayden Fry.
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Although Bielema's coaching philosophy would compliment what the Huskers want to do I just can't get over the fact that if he leaves Arky this fast I wouldn't have much confidence he wouldn't do the same to Nebraska.
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Bielema told ESPN that he is staying at Arkansas.
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jessep28 wrote:Bielema told ESPN that he is staying at Arkansas.
Well that didn't last long...

But long enough to fill twitter with some funny material!
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Wonder if Bielema wants a raise?
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guitarguy wrote:Wonder if Bielema wants a raise?
With the wife he has, probably gets a raise every night.
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Haha talk about a gold digger about as bad as Family Guys Peter and Lois.
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Brad wrote:
jessep28 wrote:Bielema told ESPN that he is staying at Arkansas.
Well that didn't last long...

But long enough to fill twitter with some funny material!
Good. reminds me of the Peterson era, when he was looking at Ark's Houston Nutt after Solich was fired.
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I watched the Big 10 Championship game. Boy, did Wisconsin get smoked by Ohio State. Completely shut out 59-0. I guess now Wisconsin fans know what it's like to see their team get destroyed on national TV and the utter humiliation that follows.

They did it to us, and now they've had it done to them. Karma can be a real pain sometimes, can't it?
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It still looks like Nebraska vs USC in the Holiday Bowl...

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