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College World Series, Swim Trials could mean
 $50 million worth of national TV exposure for Omaha
Steve Jordon / World-Herald staff writer wrote:The College World Series rivals Nebraska football in the audience and value of TV coverage, while the U.S. Olympic Swim Trials trails.
But combined, the two national sporting events in Omaha this month could generate $50 million worth of national TV exposure and an estimated 380 million audience “impressions,” based on past history.
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Former UCSB, and Colorado Rockies payer Ryan Spilborghs is on Jim Rome right now really talking up Omaha. Apparently after the win last night he bought 57 shots to get SCSB up to number one on the Goodnight's Pizza scoreboard.
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Brad wrote:Former UCSB, and Colorado Rockies payer Ryan Spilborghs is on Jim Rome right now really talking up Omaha. Apparently after the win last night he bought 57 shots to get SCSB up to number one on the Goodnight's Pizza scoreboard.
Nice, I am huge Rockies' fan, I didn't know he went there.
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Has Rome said if he is coming to Omaha yet?
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Lots of empty seats in those first few games. Moving this thing from South Omaha and destroying that stadium and all those traditions was a fools boondoggle that is surely going to end bad. Thats my prediction. All we keep hearing is these teams don't travel blah blah blah. Of course its all lies because they never did travel in great droves to Omaha to see their teams play. The CWS was always nothing without the support of locals and I think the locals don't like going downtown that much. I could see the CWS having serious trouble getting the locals to patronize this event in another 4 or 5 years.
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Why is the attendance debate brought up every single year? The attendance numbers have been higher at TD Ameritrade then they were at Rosenblatt. 2013 was the record year of per game attendance, while 2015 had the highest overall attendance, which broke 350,000 for the first time.

Here is the attendance history:

Following are the attendance figures for the years the College World Series
has been played in Omaha, plus the two years in Kalamazoo, Mich., and one
year in Wichita, Kan. The total attendance in the 65-year history of the CWS
is 7,886,517. The 62-year Omaha total is 7,864,373 spectators, an average of
126,845 per year. For the last fi ve years (2007-11) the average is 323,897.
Year Sessions Total Avg.
1947 .......................................................... 2 3,792 1,896
1948 .......................................................... 2 3,352 1,676
1949 .......................................................... 4 15,000 3,750
1950 .......................................................... 10 17,805 1,781
1951 .......................................................... 9 27,789 3,088
1952 .......................................................... 10 38,731 3,873
1953 .......................................................... 10 31,990 3,199
1954 .......................................................... 10 35,403 3,540
1955 .......................................................... 10 21,843 2,184
1956 .......................................................... 10 29,940 2,994
1957 .......................................................... 9 26,609 2,957
1958 .......................................................... 10 25,931 2,593
1959 .......................................................... 10 33,607 3,361
1960 .......................................................... 10 35,222 3,522
1961 .......................................................... 9 24,778 2,753
1962 .......................................................... 10 39,307 3,931
1963 .......................................................... 10 52,757 5,276
1964 .......................................................... 10 61,871 6,187
1965 .......................................................... 10 45,894 4,589
1966 .......................................................... 10 63,376 6,338
1967 .......................................................... 10 63,906 6,391
1968 .......................................................... 9 58,373 6,486
1969 .......................................................... 10 63,265 6,327
1970 .......................................................... 10 74,683 7,468
1971 .......................................................... 10 77,460 7,746
1972 .......................................................... 10 80,214 (1) 8,021
1973 .......................................................... 9 65,356 7,262
1974 .......................................................... 10 71,105 7,111
1975 .......................................................... 10 78,052 7,805
1976 .......................................................... 10 83,455 8,346
1977 .......................................................... 10 90,117 9,012
1978 .......................................................... 9 79,654 8,850
1979 .......................................................... 10 87,070 8,707
1980 .......................................................... 10 95,406 9,541
1981 .......................................................... 10 120,535 12,054
1982 .......................................................... 9 106,144 11,794
1983 .......................................................... 9 115,700 (2) 12,856
1984 .......................................................... 10 120,456 12,046
1985 .......................................................... 10 125,970 12,597
1986 .......................................................... 10 124,958 12,496
1987 .......................................................... 10 130,659 13,066
1988 .......................................................... 9 132,698 14,744
1989 .......................................................... 9 132,865 14,763
1990 .......................................................... 9 138,426 15,381
1991 .......................................................... 9 133,763 (3) 14,863
1992 .......................................................... 10 154,216 15,422
1993 .......................................................... 10 173,296 17,330
1994 .......................................................... 9 161,638 17,960
1995 .......................................................... 10 182,759 18,276
1996 .......................................................... 9 182,430 20,270
1997 .......................................................... 10 204,309 (4) 20,431
1998 .......................................................... 10 204,361 20,436
1999 .......................................................... 10 206,639 20,664
2000 .......................................................... 9 200,917 22,324
2001 .......................................................... 9 196,515 21,835
2002 .......................................................... 10 223,762 (5) 22,376
2003 .......................................................... 12 260,091 21,674
2004 .......................................................... 11 256,730 23,339
2005 .......................................................... 11 263,475 #23,952
2006 .......................................................... 14 310,609 (6) 22,186
2007 .......................................................... 13 300,702 23,131
2008 .......................................................... 16 330,099 20,631
2009 .......................................................... 15 +336,076 (7) 22,405
2010 .......................................................... 16 330,922 20,683
2011 .......................................................... 14 $321,684 22,977
(1) One millionth fan; (2) Two millionth fan; (3) Three millionth fan; (4) Four millionth fan;
(5) Five millionth fan; (6) Six millionth fan; (7) Seven millionth fan; #Average per session record
+Total attendance record; $TD Ameritrade Park Omaha


If you add in 2012 and 2013 here are the numbers:
2012 .......................................................... 15 326,734 (8) 21,782
2013 .......................................................... 14 +341,483 #24,392
(1) One millionth fan; (2) Two millionth fan; (3) Three millionth fan; (4) Four millionth fan;
(5) Five millionth fan; (6) Six millionth fan; (7) Seven millionth fan; #Average per session record
+Total attendance record; $TD Ameritrade Park Omaha.

2014: 347,740 (16 games) 21,734 average
2015: 353,378 (16 games) 22,086 average
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Coyote wrote:Has Rome said if he is coming to Omaha yet?
No. At one point he said "one more win and his is on a plane", meaning if they win tomorrow. Then later he said he wishes he was here, then later he told KB he was hosting tomorrow, but KB said no he was coming to Omaha with him, so then he told Alvin he was hosting tomorrow. My guess is that he won't come unless they make it to Monday.
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skinzfan23 wrote:Why is the attendance debate brought up every single year? The attendance numbers have been higher at TD Ameritrade then they were at Rosenblatt. 2013 was the record year of per game attendance, while 2015 had the highest overall attendance, which broke 350,000 for the first time.
Great stats! While the total attendance is bolstered by the fact that the current CWS structure has more games than it used to, the average attendance has been steady with where it was before the move, and in a couple of years, actually been higher at TDAPO than it ever was at Rosenblatt. This myth of lower attendance post-Rosenblatt and people not wanting to go downtown for a ballgame is just that -- a myth.

It's also worth noting that there's an awful lot of places to walk around at TDAPO (and hang out), so just because it looks like there's empty seats on TV, those people could very well be inside the ballpark -- just not sitting in their seats.
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And down goes National #1 seed Florida.
Goodbye SEC and ACC.
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Not saying one sport is better than the other but wish they would play this in between innings at the CWS.
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13,000 short of attendance compared to last year
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I guess you had to be there. I have laughed more watching cspan than that video.
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Gauchos are sent home.
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nebugeater wrote:
MTO wrote:Ok so thats the ratio but how many people is that?

2015 total attendance

353,378 in 17 games


http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Dail ... 5/CWS.aspx
That's nowhere near 353,000 people. Many people attend multiple games. I would suspect the number of unique individuals is well under 100,000 total.
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Beautiful sky at the game last night. Also, Kirk Cousins was there. Being a huge Redskins' fan I was ecstatic. The largest cheers were when asked where the toughest place to play in college was and he said Nebraska. Then he said "Go Big Red"
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skinzfan23 wrote:Beautiful sky at the game last night.
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choke wrote:13,000 short of attendance compared to last year
It's either the abnormally hot weather, or people have discovered they can just as easily be somewhere other than the ballpark while staring at their smartphones looking at social media.
He said "They are some big, ugly red brick buildings"
...and then they were gone.
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Texas Tech goes packing while fan favorite Coastal Carolina gets another day - but with a depleted bullpen.
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Rob Anderson ‏@_robanderson wrote: The 4 remaining #CWS teams all went on the road in Super Regionals and beat an SEC team.
TCU > A&M
CCU > LSU
Arizona > Miss. St.
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GetUrban wrote:
choke wrote:13,000 short of attendance compared to last year
It's either the abnormally hot weather, or people have discovered they can just as easily be somewhere other than the ballpark while staring at their smartphones looking at social media.
At some point, attendance has to plateau.
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25,367 for last night's game. I would think that tonight's game between TCU and Coastal Carolina would be large as well.
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The crowd at this afternoon's game looked like the smallest I have ever seen at a CWS game. Almost like when Creighton is playing.


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Greg S wrote:The crowd at this afternoon's game looked like the smallest I have ever seen at a CWS game. Almost like when Creighton is playing.


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I was mowing the lawn and then took my walk for the day. It was pretty nasty out today. The teams are really stretching it out this year. Gonna be tough to keep attendance up for every game. I worked parking for both day and night games. It was not a great turnout.
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It's at times like these... when I think back how nice it would have been, if we actually said #$@# the CWS, let's build a beautiful minor league ballpark downtown, which would be frequented by several thousand people, 72+ times a year. Let's face it, the vast majority of CWS fans are from the Omaha area anyway. They can produce their own economic impact. CWS is little more than a feather in our civic cap.
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choke wrote:
Greg S wrote:The crowd at this afternoon's game looked like the smallest I have ever seen at a CWS game. Almost like when Creighton is playing.


Greg

I was mowing the lawn and then took my walk for the day. It was pretty nasty out today. The teams are really stretching it out this year. Gonna be tough to keep attendance up for every game. I worked parking for both day and night games. It was not a great turnout.
Nasty weather, teams that don't travel, the swim trials' impact on family entertainment budgets, the cost of concessions, the hassle with getting there, and the tradition of selling 5 GA tickets for every seat available and then those who buy MAY BE get a seat, have all combined to hit the CWS.

The ticket people should accept GA seats after the third inning for any open seat. Have a box and you can't be bothered to show up sooner that 1/3 the way through? Too bad. The concessions are OK, but lets get the PR people to emphasize the quality of the hotdogs and other affordable stuff and not let the OWH food critic have a orgasm over an 18 inch burrito. If I am at home planning for tomorrow's game and I see a news report about how good the cheap hotdogs are, I am bringing money for the family to eat some hotdogs. If I see a news report about some crazy food item, I am making plans to hit McD's on the way down.

Schools get allotments of tickets and should either buy them or give them back. A better option would be to let them decline up front so these blocks can be sold at the GA window in advance.
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Greg S wrote:The crowd at this afternoon's game looked like the smallest I have ever seen at a CWS game. Almost like when Creighton is playing.
Yes, lotsa very obvious empty seats!
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Stargazer wrote:It's at times like these... when I think back how nice it would have been, if we actually said #$@# the CWS, let's build a beautiful minor league ballpark downtown, which would be frequented by several thousand people, 72+ times a year. Let's face it, the vast majority of CWS fans are from the Omaha area anyway. They can produce their own economic impact. CWS is little more than a feather in our civic cap.
Amen. Actually we didn't decide to build that ballpark our shady mayor (Fehey) at the time knew that if the public had a chance to vote on that Boondoggle downtown baseball Stadium plan we would vote no. So he and his fellow scammers arranged it so we never had a chance to vote on it. They stole our money to build that stadium to line their pockets and they will keep stealing our money for years to come to keep that stadium going and line their pockets. I eat out almost every day of the year and I must have paid thousands in restaurant tax already for what so those wheeler dealers can get rich and that stadium can sit empty 90% of the time. :soap:
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Stargazer wrote:It's at times like these... when I think back how nice it would have been, if we actually said #$@# the CWS, let's build a beautiful minor league ballpark downtown, which would be frequented by several thousand people, 72+ times a year. Let's face it, the vast majority of CWS fans are from the Omaha area anyway. They can produce their own economic impact. CWS is little more than a feather in our civic cap.
It's a shame that a deal wasn't worked out with the Storm Chasers. If the CWS ever decides to pack up and leave, TD stadium will be the biggest white elephant ever. Of course by the end of the contract that stadium will be 20 years old so it would probably be up for debate to demo and rebuild anyway.
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Any pictures you all can share that show the empty seats?
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daveoma wrote:Any pictures you all can share that show the empty seats?

No, was watching on TV. Every angle they showed it was empty seats, outfield grandstand you name, they were everywhere.

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daveoma wrote:Any pictures you all can share that show the empty seats?
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Looks like fans in the seats to me :;): ...

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Given the fact that college sports attendance, or sports in general, is strained, I'm not exactly sure why it's so surprising to some that there are games in the CWS that don't have a lot of fans in the seats? Or is this just the thing we're going to complain about this year, instead of the specific angles of the field that prevent home runs?


As for wishing we didn't build the stadium, and in turn lose the CWS, good heavens, no words.
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If the CWS does in fact generate $40M a year, I would be curious to see a refresher of what the chasers' impact is. I assume it isn't as high, and while I would also like to see more use of the stadium, it should be the better decision financially.
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If you've ever read "The Road to Omaha" History of the College World Series by Ryan McGee, you would know that TD Ameritrade was initiated by the NCAA. THEY wanted a new stadium & the Fahey administration were willing partners. There was a memo sent to the then mayor titled "New Stadium" and so it began. I have also heard the same thing from Steve Rosenblatt himself. It was all political and the city was kind of forced into it if they wanted to keep the series here. I've always contended that if the NCAA moved it somewhere else, who's butts will be in the seats? The citizens of Omaha are the one's who have the season tickets for the most part. As for losing Rosenblatt, we let our season tickets go after the last series there when ticket prices went up several hundred $$ at the new park.
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The largest attendance EVER was last year. Lets not go all chicken little after one down year with a number of things going against it like small poor traveling teams and Swim Trial competition.
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iamjacobm wrote:The largest attendance EVER was last year. Lets not go all chicken little after one down year with a number of things going against it like small poor traveling teams and Swim Trial competition.

Solid points.
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iamjacobm wrote:The largest attendance EVER was last year. Lets not go all chicken little after one down year with a number of things going against it like small poor traveling teams and Swim Trial competition.

*Hands iamjacobm a mic* You may drop this good sir. :) Good post.
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daveoma wrote:Any pictures you all can share that show the empty seats?
Just watch ESPN. Acres of land available when they zoom in on a fly ball catch. What's more impressionable is when they show a batter with vacant prime seats behind him!
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