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Re: 2016 CWS

Postby skinzfan23 » Wed Jun 29, 2016 10:09 am

Watching the game on tv last night....I was surprised how full it was in the 8th and 9th innings even though it was nearing 11 pm on a weeknight.

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Re: 2016 CWS

Postby MadMartin8 » Wed Jun 29, 2016 2:03 pm

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Omaha1000 wrote:Attendance was announced at between 20 and 21 K. The place filled in more beginning with the 3rd inning.


Monday: 20,789
Tuesday: 24,716

Felt full both nights.


A bit different than 9,000.

I imagine tonight's attendance will be pretty good, considering the weather and the fact it is a game three, even though it is a weeknight and the Pound is tanking against the Dollar.
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Re: 2016 CWS

Postby Linkin5 » Wed Jun 29, 2016 10:15 pm

Game three is called off due to weather, game will be tomorrow time is TBD. Has this ever happened for the championship game three?

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Re: 2016 CWS

Postby iamjacobm » Wed Jun 29, 2016 10:26 pm

They decided on 12:08. What a joke.

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Postby Coyote » Wed Jun 29, 2016 10:48 pm

iamjacobm wrote:They decided on 12:08. What a joke.


Really? Just really? That totally sucks. That is a huge blow to College Baseball.
I have to wonder who made this decision. ESPN? Do they think so much about ratings that they took it out of Thursday Prime Time? What does ESPN have on Thursday Prime that they couldn't move? Was it NCAA. WOW?
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Re: 2016 CWS

Postby Brad » Wed Jun 29, 2016 10:51 pm

Noon, that sucks!
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Re: 2016 CWS

Postby Spatial77 » Wed Jun 29, 2016 11:17 pm

I can't imagine it was an ESPN decision as they have a rerun of 30 for 30 on Cleavland's lack of championship teams, and at 8:30 the all important BattleFrog College Championship. Maybe the teams had to be out of their hotel rooms (11:00 checkout)?
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Re: 2016 CWS

Postby Busguy2010 » Wed Jun 29, 2016 11:21 pm

I was there tonight and now it is at noon? I bought tickets, and so did a whole lot of other people. For the in town fans, 7pm would work a whole heck of a lot better than noon. Are they just trying to get the teams and fans on their way ASAP or what? I may not even go now, as excited as I was to see the outcome. This may become the forgotten CWS because CCU can win. If it were Arizona and some other power team they wouldn't hold it at noon. :evil:

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Postby Brad » Wed Jun 29, 2016 11:29 pm

Spatial77 wrote:Maybe the teams had to be out of their hotel rooms (11:00 checkout)?


Lol, Coastal Carolina's flight was scheduled at 11am.
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Re: 2016 CWS

Postby HR Paperstacks » Thu Jun 30, 2016 12:32 am

NCAA postpones CWS championship to Thursday at Noon out of concern for competition, player welfare

Lee Barfknecht / World-Herald staff writer wrote:The hired meteorologist also weighed in, which is why noon Thursday was chosen.

“There is more of a chance of weather coming in (Thursday) night than today,” Prettyman said. “If we had delayed it to evening and went through this again, we might have been in same scenario.

“We may not get the TV assignment we had hoped for. But we’ll be able to play our national championship game in a window that will allow us to finish it.”

The game will air on ESPNU. Wednesday’s delay was officially 2 hours, 23 minutes before the rainout was announced at 9:31 p.m.

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Re: 2016 CWS

Postby Omaha1000 » Thu Jun 30, 2016 12:34 am

Postponed due to lightning strikes within 8 miles: maybe understandable. Postponed to 12:07 on a Thursday when countless people can no longer use their tickets or watch on tv: Awful

I'm out the money I paid for two tickets, parking, and of course the 25 cents I paid for the circular bus ride.

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Re: 2016 CWS

Postby Busguy2010 » Thu Jun 30, 2016 1:32 am

Whoever the meterologist is, NWS says 20% chance of storms after 1pm and then nothing after that. I guess in all this, it really shows that it is all about the teams and we as spectators have the privilege of watching it all happen. Still doesn't fix all the money blown.

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Re: 2016 CWS

Postby Omababe » Thu Jun 30, 2016 5:39 am

Brad wrote:Noon, that sucks!


Yeah, I wonder if there will be all kinds of obvious empty seats on the television coverage?

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Re: 2016 CWS

Postby MadMartin8 » Thu Jun 30, 2016 5:52 am

Noon on a weekday. That's a barrel full of stupid.
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Re: 2016 CWS

Postby nebugeater » Thu Jun 30, 2016 6:31 am

On top of that I think it is no on ESPNU also.
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Re: 2016 CWS

Postby omaha79 » Thu Jun 30, 2016 8:01 am

We can chalk it up to a one year blip, but I'd say it's hard to argue that the 2016 tournament is anything but a low point in they history of the College World Series.

There is as much of a chance that next year sets attendance records, but this years event has pretty much been one disaster after another.

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Re: 2016 CWS

Postby nebugeater » Thu Jun 30, 2016 8:18 am

Little bad luck, sure but IMO it is a LONG WAYS from a disaster or series of them.




omaha79 wrote:We can chalk it up to a one year blip, but I'd say it's hard to argue that the 2016 tournament is anything but a low point in they history of the College World Series.

There is as much of a chance that next year sets attendance records, but this years event has pretty much been one disaster after another.
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Postby Greg S » Thu Jun 30, 2016 8:24 am

It did sound like communication at the ballpark was an epic failure last night. They were talking about it on Sharp and Benning. They weren't making announcements or putting updates on the scoreboard. Most of the crowd was kept in the dark as far as what was going on and when it could possibly start. Sounds like frustration level was pretty high.

People would see players in the outfield but the tarp not moving.

They could at least have put updates on the scoreboard.

Not sure if this is on the group that runs the CWS, MECA or both.

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Re: 2016 CWS

Postby Linkin5 » Thu Jun 30, 2016 10:53 am

Anybody with a Prelim ticket from today's swimming trials gets into the game free, really good idea by MECA.

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Re: 2016 CWS

Postby omaha79 » Thu Jun 30, 2016 10:54 am

nebugeater wrote:Little bad luck, sure but IMO it is a LONG WAYS from a disaster or series of them.




omaha79 wrote:We can chalk it up to a one year blip, but I'd say it's hard to argue that the 2016 tournament is anything but a low point in they history of the College World Series.

There is as much of a chance that next year sets attendance records, but this years event has pretty much been one disaster after another.


Absolutely disagree. Compared to pretty much every other CWS in my lifetime, this would certainly be a low point and has had its issues.

-lower interest from both locals and travelling fans
-cancelled game with a lack of communication causing fan frustration
-a championship game now being played at Noon on a weekday, likely in front of a half full house at best
-a session on a weekend with under 9k in attendance (9k announced but most agreeing it was closer to 6k)

This is all pretty much unprecedented in CWS history. Most of the time, this event goes off without a hitch. While this years CWS was certainly successful...all of them are successful from a financial standpoint, one would be hard pressed to argue that this isn't a low point in recent CWS history in Omaha. It just is.

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Re: 2016 CWS

Postby nebugeater » Thu Jun 30, 2016 1:33 pm

omaha79 wrote:
nebugeater wrote:Little bad luck, sure but IMO it is a LONG WAYS from a disaster or series of them.




omaha79 wrote:We can chalk it up to a one year blip, but I'd say it's hard to argue that the 2016 tournament is anything but a low point in they history of the College World Series.

There is as much of a chance that next year sets attendance records, but this years event has pretty much been one disaster after another.


Absolutely disagree. Compared to pretty much every other CWS in my lifetime, this would certainly be a low point and has had its issues.

-lower interest from both locals and travelling fans
-cancelled game with a lack of communication causing fan frustration
-a championship game now being played at Noon on a weekday, likely in front of a half full house at best
-a session on a weekend with under 9k in attendance (9k announced but most agreeing it was closer to 6k)

This is all pretty much unprecedented in CWS history. Most of the time, this event goes off without a hitch. While this years CWS was certainly successful...all of them are successful from a financial standpoint, one would be hard pressed to argue that this isn't a low point in recent CWS history in Omaha. It just is.



Most of what you say I agree with. Just not a disaster by any means.

From Webster's On line Dictionary and this doesn't fit any of these even close.

Simple Definition of disaster
: something (such as a flood, tornado, fire, plane crash, etc.) that happens suddenly and causes much suffering or loss to many people
: something that has a very bad effect or result
: a complete or terrible failure
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Re: 2016 CWS

Postby omaha79 » Thu Jun 30, 2016 1:46 pm

It's not a disaster like a fire or flood, but in terms of perception for Omaha's marquee event, it's certainly been a mess at times this year.

I am hearing from a friend that is in the ballpark today that the attendance is "brutal" and even though there is hardly anyone there, it's difficult to get concessions due to a lack of concession workers. He said that he heard from a MECA employee that since most of the stands are manned by volunteers, they weren't able to get them to come in for a noon game on such short notice after they already came in last night.

In terms of hosting a championship event on national television, I'd consider this a minor disaster and certainly the lowest point of the CWS in Omaha that I can remember. Historians will not be talking about the 2016 CWS as a high water mark of the event in Omaha. That's all I'm saying.

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Re: 2016 CWS

Postby Greg S » Thu Jun 30, 2016 2:17 pm

I definitely think this has not been one of the tops CWS series but the good thing is I don't think it's much more than a one year blip. Not counting the 9k game (which those extra games that aren't guaranteed are hard to plan for), attendance has been comparable to years past. As mentioned earlier, there were some factors that made this year difficult. We normally have some hot days but this year it seemed to stretch the full length of the tourney. Roughest year I can imagine for our powers/traveling teams.

I do think they really need to get the CWS Inc or whoever is in charge, along with MECA to make sure how last night was handled communication-wise, to not happen again. They should have a playbook on how to communicate and treat fans during delays.

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Postby omaha79 » Thu Jun 30, 2016 2:23 pm

Greg S wrote:I definitely think this has not been one of the tops CWS series but the good thing is I don't think it's much more than a one year blip. Not counting the 9k game (which those extra games that aren't guaranteed are hard to plan for), attendance has been comparable to years past. As mentioned earlier, there were some factors that made this year difficult. We normally have some hot days but this year it seemed to stretch the full length of the tourney. Roughest year I can imagine for our powers/traveling teams.

I do think they really need to get the CWS Inc or whoever is in charge, along with MECA to make sure how last night was handled communication-wise, to not happen again. They should have a playbook on how to communicate and treat fans during delays.

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and MECA overall needs to have a better plan for concessions at the ballpark. In a vacuum, you can give MECA a pass on today. It's not their fault that they can't get volunteers for a noon game the night before when the start time was mandated by the NCAA; however, it looks bad in light of all the problems MECA has had with adequate concession staffing at the ballpark for Big Ten and MVC tournament games along with some Creighton baseball games.

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Re: 2016 CWS

Postby Greg S » Thu Jun 30, 2016 2:30 pm

Yeah MECA is 0 for 2 on the Big 10 tourney, 2 years ago not being ready for Nebraska fans, then this year not being ready for Iowa.

It's amazing how much better run Werner Park is compared to TD. TD is obviously bigger but everything just runs so much better at Werner.

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Postby nebugeater » Thu Jun 30, 2016 2:55 pm

http://www.omaha.com/sports/cws/cws-blo ... 5d20c.html

Looks like ESPN has made a few remarks that they want to be sure that it is known that the Noon weekday start time was not driven by them.

They offered up a prime time slot on the ESPN mother ship as an option for a game time.
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Postby nebugeater » Thu Jun 30, 2016 3:34 pm

Coastal Carolina Wins it All!!!!

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Az had two runner in scoring position and last batter struck out
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Greg S wrote:Yeah MECA is 0 for 2 on the Big 10 tourney, 2 years ago not being ready for Nebraska fans, then this year not being ready for Iowa.

It's amazing how much better run Werner Park is compared to TD. TD is obviously bigger but everything just runs so much better at Werner.

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I would hope Werner could handle it considering its one of the smallest AAA parks in America.

Also heard plenty of horror stories about parking and field conditions out at Werner as well. Not exactly as well run of a ball park as you would think. Chasers have had 5 years to run their own park and not have the City of Omaha do it and they still screw quite a bit on the ballpark operations up. See the flooded field last weekend during high school tourney.

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Postby Coyote » Thu Jun 30, 2016 3:51 pm

18,000 at game 17 makes this year's CWS the third highest attended Series.
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Postby skinzfan23 » Thu Jun 30, 2016 3:54 pm

Coyote wrote:18,000 at game 17 makes this year's CWS the third highest attended Series.

The crowd actually looked pretty big on tv. I was surprised, I figured that a lot of people wouldn't be able to make it.

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Re: 2016 CWS

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Coyote wrote:18,000 at game 17 makes this year's CWS the third highest attended Series.


I'd like to point out that I was wrong yet again because I had told everyone that there won't be more than 10,000 for today's game. I'm still ticked off though because I have two unused tickets in my wallet.

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cp jay 07 wrote:
Greg S wrote:Yeah MECA is 0 for 2 on the Big 10 tourney, 2 years ago not being ready for Nebraska fans, then this year not being ready for Iowa.

It's amazing how much better run Werner Park is compared to TD. TD is obviously bigger but everything just runs so much better at Werner.

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I would hope Werner could handle it considering its one of the smallest AAA parks in America.

Also heard plenty of horror stories about parking and field conditions out at Werner as well. Not exactly as well run of a ball park as you would think. Chasers have had 5 years to run their own park and not have the City of Omaha do it and they still screw quite a bit on the ballpark operations up. See the flooded field last weekend during high school tourney.



From a fan perspective it's not even close. At Werner things just work. That staff is so superior to what you get from MECA at TD.

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Postby iamjacobm » Thu Jun 30, 2016 4:22 pm

Left work at 3 and walked in the game at the middle of the 9th. Couldn't miss history.

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Coyote wrote:18,000 at game 17 makes this year's CWS the third highest attended Series.



I'm assuming that's because we had the max number of sessions. I can't imagine it's #3 on a per session average.

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Greg S wrote:
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Greg S wrote:Yeah MECA is 0 for 2 on the Big 10 tourney, 2 years ago not being ready for Nebraska fans, then this year not being ready for Iowa.

It's amazing how much better run Werner Park is compared to TD. TD is obviously bigger but everything just runs so much better at Werner.

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I would hope Werner could handle it considering its one of the smallest AAA parks in America.

Also heard plenty of horror stories about parking and field conditions out at Werner as well. Not exactly as well run of a ball park as you would think. Chasers have had 5 years to run their own park and not have the City of Omaha do it and they still screw quite a bit on the ballpark operations up. See the flooded field last weekend during high school tourney.



From a fan perspective it's not even close. At Werner things just work. That staff is so superior to what you get from MECA at TD.

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Truth. I've been to close to 100 games at Werner Park since it opened. I've never had any major issues at that ballpark. They know what they are doing.

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Greg S wrote:
Coyote wrote:18,000 at game 17 makes this year's CWS the third highest attended Series.



I'm assuming that's because we had the max number of sessions. I can't imagine it's #3 on a per session average.

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Yeah. That's where statistics are misleading. When you have extra games, of course the overall max would be higher. The per game average has to be down though.

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Greg S wrote:
cp jay 07 wrote:
Greg S wrote:Yeah MECA is 0 for 2 on the Big 10 tourney, 2 years ago not being ready for Nebraska fans, then this year not being ready for Iowa.

It's amazing how much better run Werner Park is compared to TD. TD is obviously bigger but everything just runs so much better at Werner.

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I would hope Werner could handle it considering its one of the smallest AAA parks in America.

Also heard plenty of horror stories about parking and field conditions out at Werner as well. Not exactly as well run of a ball park as you would think. Chasers have had 5 years to run their own park and not have the City of Omaha do it and they still screw quite a bit on the ballpark operations up. See the flooded field last weekend during high school tourney.



From a fan perspective it's not even close. At Werner things just work. That staff is so superior to what you get from MECA at TD.

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How does Werner compare to other AAA parks? I saw they had a couple of sellouts this year that topped 9,000. I like the park. But they aren't without their problems.

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Re: 2016 CWS

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choke wrote:
Greg S wrote:
cp jay 07 wrote:
Greg S wrote:Yeah MECA is 0 for 2 on the Big 10 tourney, 2 years ago not being ready for Nebraska fans, then this year not being ready for Iowa.

It's amazing how much better run Werner Park is compared to TD. TD is obviously bigger but everything just runs so much better at Werner.

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I would hope Werner could handle it considering its one of the smallest AAA parks in America.

Also heard plenty of horror stories about parking and field conditions out at Werner as well. Not exactly as well run of a ball park as you would think. Chasers have had 5 years to run their own park and not have the City of Omaha do it and they still screw quite a bit on the ballpark operations up. See the flooded field last weekend during high school tourney.



From a fan perspective it's not even close. At Werner things just work. That staff is so superior to what you get from MECA at TD.

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How does Werner compare to other AAA parks? I saw they had a couple of sellouts this year that topped 9,000. I like the park. But they aren't without their problems.


As far as the stadium itself, it compares very well. Has received high marks from the baseball ballparks websites. As far as customer service, it's among the best for me (including college and pro experiences). The staff is fantastic. For AAA that I have personally been to it's limited (OKC, Des Moines, Indy, Round Rock, and Vegas) but they are tops in my book.

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Re: 2016 CWS

Postby Greg S » Fri Jul 01, 2016 8:00 am

Sharp and Benning were talking about the CWS again this morning. Sounds like yesterday the lines got long and they were running out of food. On short notice you can forgive that. The major thing people were complaining about was you'd wait in a long line, then get up front and find out the stuff you wanted had run out.

By average session size, this was the lowest attended CWS since 1995.

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Re: 2016 CWS

Postby Uffda » Fri Jul 01, 2016 8:05 am

Based on how the weather turned out last night, I think the NCAA CWS needs a new meteorologist --- is Jim Flowers looking for part time work? :D :D :D


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