11 Story Hyatt @ 12th and Jackson

cdub · Post by **cdub** » Tue May 24, 2011 8:32 am

Ok, Marriot out, Hyatt in?

cdub · Post by **cdub** » Thu Jun 16, 2011 7:56 am

How about 11 floors?

justnick · Post by **justnick** » Thu Jun 16, 2011 8:05 am

cdub wrote:How about 11 floors?

How about Awesome?

Post by **Brad** » Thu Jun 16, 2011 8:58 am

11 floors? Awesome! Â I thought the old marker would not allow that?

cdub · Post by **cdub** » Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:17 am

Its technically not in the market. Â

Half of that is parking and not actually as many floors as it looks like but from the outside its being designed to look like 11 regular floors.

Post by **Brad** » Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:19 am

cdub wrote:Its technically not in the market.

Half of that is parking and not actually as many floors as it looks like but from the outside its being designed to look like 11 regular floors.

I will still take it! Â Better than 4 stories and bulldozing half a block of old market for parking...

Linkin5 · Post by **Linkin5** » Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:39 am

I really hope this comes true. Â I am so sick of seeing that hole in the ground!

Post by **Coyote** » Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:33 am

OK - how realistic is this rumor?

almighty_tuna · Post by **almighty_tuna** » Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:57 am

Coyote wrote:OK - how realistic is this rumor?

I just checked into my room on the 28th floor of the Believe It When I See It Hotel.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:58 am

almighty_tuna wrote:
Coyote wrote:OK - how realistic is this rumor?
I just checked into my room on the 28th floor of the Believe It When I See It Hotel.

Would you like help with your bags? Or a complimentary 17 dollar bottle of water from the cooler with the clear glass door and all the yummy treats in it?

S33 · Post by **S33** » Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:00 pm

hate this forum sometimes.

Linkin5 · Post by **Linkin5** » Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:02 pm

Coyote wrote:OK - how realistic is this rumor?

cdub, if you don't mind me asking what connection do you have to the project?

almighty_tuna · Post by **almighty_tuna** » Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:03 pm

Anonymous wrote:
almighty_tuna wrote:
Coyote wrote:OK - how realistic is this rumor?
I just checked into my room on the 28th floor of the Believe It When I See It Hotel.
Would you like help with your bags? Or a complimentary 17 dollar bottle of water from the cooler with the clear glass door and all the yummy treats in it?

it's not free, it compliments the room.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:14 pm

Linkin5 wrote:
Coyote wrote:OK - how realistic is this rumor?
cdub, if you don't mind me asking what connection do you have to the project?

cdub is actually Mayor Suttle. He's an engineer.

Big E · Post by **Big E** » Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:49 pm

My father was a piano mover, so ...

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Thu Jun 16, 2011 5:08 pm

cdub wrote:How about 11 floors?

Is this going to be next to DTO's new Pacific Life tower?

OmahaJaysCU · Post by **OmahaJaysCU** » Thu Jun 16, 2011 7:15 pm

Anonymous wrote:
cdub wrote:How about 11 floors?
Is this going to be next to DTO's new Pacific Life tower?

You mean next to Finn's at 11th and Farnam?

Oh how awesome downtown would look if all of these rumors came to fruition....fingers crossed.

iamjacobm · Post by **iamjacobm** » Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:25 pm

Something that size would look impressive over the OM!

Big E · Post by **Big E** » Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:14 pm

iamjacobm wrote:Something that size would look impressive over the OM!

Anthony Weiner isn't doing anything these days.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:10 am

cdub is usually very on the money with these things. I'd trust him more than some others. Although I do enjoy driving over the hill on WB West Dodge near 93rd and seeing DTO's 50 story Pacific Life headquarters on the horizon with its 5k employees buzzing away.

justnick · Post by **justnick** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 11:35 am

S33 wrote:hate this forum sometimes.

Truth

cdub · Post by **cdub** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 4:44 pm

To the point about the OM. Â It seems that there are some concerns among the historic guys that it is not at all appropriate. Â Should be some interesting debate. Â It isnt in the market but it is in a little notch that wasnt included while some said it should have been.

ShawJ · Post by **ShawJ** » Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:25 pm

cdub wrote:To the point about the OM. It seems that there are some concerns among the historic guys that it is not at all appropriate. Should be some interesting debate. It isnt in the market but it is in a little notch that wasnt included while some said it should have been.

So is it just a concern about height? I can't see how the old plans were any more appropriate than an 11 story building.

delinea design · Post by **delinea design** » Sun Jun 19, 2011 9:59 am

There's nothing wrong with Disney architectural reproductions as long as they stay in a theme park. I think the current trend of green glass and metal on nearly all new structures is unfortunate; another reason for architectural diversity (even within contemporary architecture). I think that it is also a good point that not all buildings need to "stand out" just to be different. There are certain plots/projects that warrant a grand design (I'd argue for a rebuilt downtown library or Joslyn extension gallery), but probably not going to happen with a corporate chain hotel in a mid-sized city.
-Chad

swgiust · Post by **swgiust** » Mon Jun 20, 2011 9:34 am

I think this is a great idea/project.

First, you can easily build a building that looks old, or at least fits the area.

Second, I hope they allow space for street level retail/food.

Third, any project like this that includes parking is a plus.

Fourth, it's good for the old market. Americans are fat and lazy and if
they can just walk across the street to eat, they will. So you get a couple
hundred people staying there on a Saturday night, they are already parked,
their walking.

Ben · Post by **Ben** » Mon Jun 20, 2011 10:17 am

I'll take a nice full service hotel anywhere we can get it, but in reality, this is needed up, next to the Qwest, in the Capitol District, not down here in the Old Market, several blocks away. Â When booking a convention, planners first look at the # of full service rooms connected to / adjacent to the convention site. Â If we're going to get this, I'd much rather they put it where it'd have the most impact. Â The addition of this hotel down in the Market would only further complicate the effort to get a hotel for the Capitol site...

almighty_tuna · Post by **almighty_tuna** » Mon Jun 20, 2011 10:31 am

Ben wrote:I'll take a nice full service hotel anywhere we can get it, but in reality, this is needed up, next to the Qwest, in the Capitol District, not down here in the Old Market, several blocks away. When booking a convention, planners first look at the # of full service rooms connected to / adjacent to the convention site. If we're going to get this, I'd much rather they put it where it'd have the most impact. The addition of this hotel down in the Market would only further complicate the effort to get a hotel for the Capitol site...

This hotel would be a waste next to the Qwest. Â The concept, yes, but the scale is too small for a 10th & Capitol location, IMO.

HuskerDave · Post by **HuskerDave** » Mon Jun 20, 2011 2:41 pm

I agree - I also think that enough people already consider the Old Market and Qwest Center areas to be contiguous enough for easy access. Whenever I hear national media discussing the area surrounding anything downtown, they typically mention the Old Market. Tourists would likely see an OM-based hotel as a positive thing.

Ben · Post by **Ben** » Mon Jun 20, 2011 4:27 pm

couple of things:

I was referring to the positive impact to the city (and draw of conventions) when I was saying that it would be better suited in the Capitol District. Â This is where the big $ is.

"scale is too small for capitol district" Â - umm, are we getting a little greedy here? Â Omaha has never complained before about a 12 story building before.... Â That's significantly taller than everything in that area, and there are only a handful of buildings taller around downtown.

almighty_tuna · Post by **almighty_tuna** » Mon Jun 20, 2011 6:31 pm

Ben wrote:"scale is too small for capitol district" - umm, are we getting a little greedy here? Omaha has never complained before about a 12 story building before.... That's significantly taller than everything in that area, and there are only a handful of buildings taller around downtown.

I wouldn't say "we", or more directly, *I* am being greedy in the least. Â This isn't a sidebar with the height obsessed committee, it's a matter of looking ahead for future use. Â Granted, the title of the thread is "11 Story Hyatt" and not "400 room hyatt", so there's no specific indication as to the capacity of the hotel. Â My point is not "i wanna taller building at 10th/Capitol" #whine, but that 10th & Capitol is an important location and I personally don't want to see it get "hiltoned", so to speak.

cdub · Post by **cdub** » Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:03 am

fewer than 200 rooms

Linkin5 · Post by **Linkin5** » Tue Jun 21, 2011 1:00 pm

cdub wrote:fewer than 200 rooms

Any time-line of announcement?

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Jun 27, 2011 3:12 pm

My guess is they are hedging based upon the design concerns with the market and others but hopefully they will firm things up very soon.

Globochem · Post by **Globochem** » Fri Jul 01, 2011 2:43 am

I believe that I saw some surveying going on around the property today. Â Could this be the start of site prep?

cdub · Post by **cdub** » Mon Jul 11, 2011 10:32 am

I believe the TIF amendment should go to CC this month.

Turtle9160 · Post by **Turtle9160** » Mon Jul 11, 2011 2:37 pm

I was down by there over the weekend and noticed a sigh saying a hotel was coming soon but it didn't look like in the rendering on that it was 11 stories and if I remember right it didn't say Hyatt, looked like Ramada, if the servey crews have been there they may be getting ready to do something so here is hopeing after that corner has been a hole for awhile now

justnick · Post by **justnick** » Mon Jul 11, 2011 8:39 pm

Turtle9160 wrote:I was down by there over the weekend and noticed a sigh saying a hotel was coming soon but it didn't look like in the rendering on that it was 11 stories and if I remember right it didn't say Hyatt, looked like Ramada, if the servey crews have been there they may be getting ready to do something so here is hopeing after that corner has been a hole for awhile now

That sign's been there for years. It just falls down and gets put back up periodically

Post by **Coyote** » Mon Jul 11, 2011 8:51 pm

cdub wrote:I believe the TIF amendment should go to CC this month.

I did not see it on tomorrow's agenda.

S33 · Post by **S33** » Tue Jul 12, 2011 8:05 am

justnick wrote:
Turtle9160 wrote:I was down by there over the weekend and noticed a sigh saying a hotel was coming soon but it didn't look like in the rendering on that it was 11 stories and if I remember right it didn't say Hyatt, looked like Ramada, if the servey crews have been there they may be getting ready to do something so here is hopeing after that corner has been a hole for awhile now
That sign's been there for years. It just falls down and gets put back up periodically

Speaking of signs... Somebody here should "acquire" the Wall St. Tower sign hanging on the fence on the old UP site... assuming it is still there. That would be a nice conversation piece to have. Â :)