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North Downtown Development in the works

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According to my friend in the commercial real estate business, there is a new development in the early planning stages for an area in the northern portion of downtown.   The development, which will cover an area the size of four square blocks, will consist of a pedestrian friendly retail district, a mixture of condos and apartments, as well as a hotel.
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Would be cool, but we have been getting trolled really hard here lately.  Don't expect a ton of excitement about this right now.
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Isn't that called the Shamrock development?
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MadMartin8 wrote:Isn't that called the Shamrock development?
Either that or its the one on 370 in Sarpy County with the unicorns & Trump Tower
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NovakOmaha wrote:
MadMartin8 wrote:Isn't that called the Shamrock development?
Either that or its the one on 370 in Sarpy County with the unicorns & Trump Tower

Construction on that starts in 60-90 days, right?
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MadMartin8 wrote:
NovakOmaha wrote:
MadMartin8 wrote:Isn't that called the Shamrock development?
Either that or its the one on 370 in Sarpy County with the unicorns & Trump Tower

Construction on that starts in 60-90 days, right?
Announcement in February, stay tuned
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Wow I don't know where my head was.  Duh.
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iamjacobm wrote:but we have been getting trolled really hard here lately.
Who ever posted this rumor, has posted from the same IP Address 65 other times as a guest.  That same IP address is NOT registered to a regular member.
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I can confirm this, however, its in such an early/preliminary stage of the process it is barely worth mentioning.
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http://www.omaha.com/article/20120506/N ... hire-crowd

If you read that article it talks about how a project like this is the City's vision. I don't know how long it will take to get these projects going, however, it will be great once they happen. Assuming that the Shamrock development will happen, it will be great to see North Downtown connected with the rest of downtown. LOTS of potential for North Downtown to grow and expand, gets me REALLY excited.

Also I hope that the Joslyn district happens as well, downtown would be hoppin with all of these great projects!
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Brad wrote:
iamjacobm wrote:but we have been getting trolled really hard here lately.
Who ever posted this rumor, has posted from the same IP Address 65 other times as a guest.  That same IP address is NOT registered to a regular member.
Does he have the same IP as our Realtor or HWY 370 friends?
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Anonymous wrote:I can confirm this, however, its in such an early/preliminary stage of the process it is barely worth mentioning.
It's great to hear that an anonymous person can stand firmly behind the anonymous OP.  This confirms the OP isn't lying  :lol:

I know how this thread is going to end.  You are going to say, "see, we told you this would happen" when the Shamrock development breaks ground.
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Some of us choose to post only as a guest, mainly because how some of you guys jump all over each other if you don't like a post.   Also, in the rumor section, some of the information provided is confidential, so you might not want people knowing that you are the one who let the cat out of the bag.  As you can tell, at least one of the moderators has too much time on his hand, trying to figure out who you are.
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No, you post as guest because you probably don't know what in the heck you are talking about. Its not like the forum asks you for your home address, first and last name, SS number, or blood type.
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That was me, forgot to log in. And didn't want anyone to make fun of me.
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basically this is already happening. North of TDAP there is a new brewery/resturaunt going in. There are hotels already there.
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Anonymous wrote:No, you post as guest because you probably don't know what in the heck you are talking about. Its not like the forum asks you for your home address, first and last name, SS number, or blood type.
Exactly! Even being a registered user, no one would know who let the cat out of the bag. You would at least have more credibility (as long as what you say turns out to be true). Quit playing games. They're not really funny.
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If the forum doesn't ask for your first and last name, home address, blood type, sexual preference, race, if you use bicycles as your main mode of transportation, if you recycle, where you work,your race, if you live east of 72nd or west of 72nd, how many kids you have, where you went to school, etc, etc, etc...how does that make the credibility of a registered user any better.   That just doesn't make any sense.  All I know is I hope that this project doesn't involve building a big parking lot or we'll have to hear a lot of you whine and cry how we don't need another parking lot and that we need more "towers" instead.
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Anonymous wrote:If the forum doesn't ask for your first and last name, home address, blood type, sexual preference, race, if you use bicycles as your main mode of transportation, if you recycle, where you work,your race, if you live east of 72nd or west of 72nd, how many kids you have, where you went to school, etc, etc, etc...how does that make the credibility of a registered user any better.   That just doesn't make any sense.  All I know is I hope that this project doesn't involve building a big parking lot or we'll have to hear a lot of you whine and cry how we don't need another parking lot and that we need more "towers" instead.
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Anonymous wrote:If the forum doesn't ask for your first and last name, home address, blood type, sexual preference, race, if you use bicycles as your main mode of transportation, if you recycle, where you work,your race, if you live east of 72nd or west of 72nd, how many kids you have, where you went to school, etc, etc, etc...how does that make the credibility of a registered user any better.   That just doesn't make any sense.  All I know is I hope that this project doesn't involve building a big parking lot or we'll have to hear a lot of you whine and cry how we don't need another parking lot and that we need more "towers" instead.
It makes it better because then we at least know the screen name of the person making all these claims, which will either give credibility to this person or make them lose it altogether.
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You have a point there, but there are a lot of unregistered guests on here that use a user name over and over.   Can't you make your conclusion based on a user name as well?
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Anonymous wrote:You have a point there, but there are a lot of unregistered guests on here that use a user name over and over.   Can't you make your conclusion based on a user name as well?
Yes, but not when they post as "Guest" like this person has been doing.
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Anonymous wrote:If the forum doesn't ask for your first and last name, home address, blood type, sexual preference, race, if you use bicycles as your main mode of transportation, if you recycle, where you work,your race, if you live east of 72nd or west of 72nd, how many kids you have, where you went to school, etc, etc, etc...how does that make the credibility of a registered user any better.   That just doesn't make any sense.  All I know is I hope that this project doesn't involve building a big parking lot or we'll have to hear a lot of you whine and cry how we don't need another parking lot and that we need more "towers" instead.
You listed "race' twice.
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Like I said, my friend said that this is in the very early planning stages.   Land hasn't even been purchased yet, but my friend in the commercial real estate business said a developer is doing a feasibility study on the area and has been contacting national retailers as well as those in the hotel business to see if there is any interest.  I guess time will tell.
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What it comes down to is trust.  If someone comes in as a guest or with a new name and the first post they make is about some magical development it just doesn't smell right, to me anyway.  Trust comes, again to me, when someone who is new comes in and makes a name, makes some posts, creates at least a semblance of trust, THEN maybe they have a rumor.

It just doesn't look credible when there is a post about a large development as the first thing out of the gate.  As we learned with OmahaRealtor68, someone posts in rapid succession about the end all, be all, of developments, then disappears for a few months, then comes back to say the wheels fell off and it will happen somewhere else, then a few months later, blah, blah, blah...   It didn't make sense from the start and it didn't make sense at the end.
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..... and without registering anyone posting as a guest can use the same name and there is no assurance that it is the same person.
For the record  NEBUGEATER does not equal BUGEATER    !!!!!!!
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I can confirm this, however, its in such an early/preliminary stage of the process it is barely worth mentioning.
It's great to hear that an anonymous person can stand firmly behind the anonymous OP.  This confirms the OP isn't lying  :lol:

I know how this thread is going to end.  You are going to say, "see, we told you this would happen" when the Shamrock development breaks ground.
I am the one that posted this.  I am also a very regular poster on this forum and have been for several years.  Brad can check the IPs and stuff if he wants to.  

But here is my point, developers do feasibility studies all the time, more often than not it doesn't amount to much.  I just wanted to confirm that yes, something is being discussed, but it really isn't even worth talking about because it is so early on in the process.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I can confirm this, however, its in such an early/preliminary stage of the process it is barely worth mentioning.
It's great to hear that an anonymous person can stand firmly behind the anonymous OP.  This confirms the OP isn't lying  :lol:

I know how this thread is going to end.  You are going to say, "see, we told you this would happen" when the Shamrock development breaks ground.
I am the one that posted this.  I am also a very regular poster on this forum and have been for several years.  Brad can check the IPs and stuff if he wants to.  

But here is my point, developers do feasibility studies all the time, more often than not it doesn't amount to much.  I just wanted to confirm that yes, something is being discussed, but it really isn't even worth talking about because it is so early on in the process.
In addition to that, Brad can also link my posts to several other rumors initiated by a guest, that have been since confirmed.
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So this study isn't Shamrock then?  That is really all I am curious about now if it really is this early in the process.  Since I assume Shamrock is further along than a study.
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Well, if this is true that's beyond awesome. I'm always skeptical, but I'd be interested to know the size/scale of this development and where exactly in North Downtown would it be?


I suppose I won't get my hopes up (it'd be foolish, obviously), but I'm open to pleasant surprises.
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iamjacobm wrote:So this study isn't Shamrock then?  That is really all I am curious about now if it really is this early in the process.  Since I assume Shamrock is further along than a study.
Correct, its in North downtown.
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Also, I am going to officially brand myself as the attached guest name to help get rid of confusion.  So in these rumors from here on out I will have: some glitter, my photo resume, some candy, and a note!
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Hey...hey guys look at me!

Big project I have mentioned is back on....(phone rings)

Nevermind my realtor buddies just told me its a no go....(you have mail)

Scratch that, its back on....(text buzz)

Well I am not really sure anymore, just wait til February there will be an announcement be then....right?
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If you're going to try to pose as me, at least get my name right.   I know you all think I'm all a quack because the large project I once revealed never happened.  As hard as it may be hard to believe, that project was not a "figment" of my imagination.   It just didn't get off the ground, just like lots of other big projects that you may have or may not have heard of for the Omaha area.   Yes, there truly was a couple really large corporations interested in relocating to Omaha and bringing thousands of jobs to the metro, but from what I heard, after several disputes between the corporations and the developers and some problems with land acquisition, the who project was scrapped.  As for people saying they are seeing signs in fields that this project is coming soon, I don't know anything about that and I'm guessing that was someone posing as me too.

Anyway, I don't know why so many of you are having such a hard time believing that this project may be in the planning stages for North Downtown.   Why is it so hard to believe that someone would want to build apartments and condos down there.   With Creighton University, the ballpark, the convention center, the riverfront, and more and more employers and entertainment options coming in the area, why wouldn't this be a good place to build?   Why not build a hotel?   The need for rooms are growing in the area.   As for retail, think about how many new condos and apartments are being added in downtown.   Sooner or later national retailers are going to take notice.  How about a grocery store, a drug store, a sub shop, hair salon, a couple of clothing stores, office supply store, pet supply store, or other specialty stores?
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OMArealtor68 wrote:If you're going to try to pose as me, at least get my name right.   I know you all think I'm all a quack because the large project I once revealed never happened.  As hard as it may be hard to believe, that project was not a "figment" of my imagination.   It just didn't get off the ground, just like lots of other big projects that you may have or may not have heard of for the Omaha area.   Yes, there truly was a couple really large corporations interested in relocating to Omaha and bringing thousands of jobs to the metro, but from what I heard, after several disputes between the corporations and the developers and some problems with land acquisition, the who project was scrapped.  As for people saying they are seeing signs in fields that this project is coming soon, I don't know anything about that and I'm guessing that was someone posing as me too.

Anyway, I don't know why so many of you are having such a hard time believing that this project may be in the planning stages for North Downtown.   Why is it so hard to believe that someone would want to build apartments and condos down there.   With Creighton University, the ballpark, the convention center, the riverfront, and more and more employers and entertainment options coming in the area, why wouldn't this be a good place to build?   Why not build a hotel?   The need for rooms are growing in the area.   As for retail, think about how many new condos and apartments are being added in downtown.   Sooner or later national retailers are going to take notice.  How about a grocery store, a drug store, a sub shop, hair salon, a couple of clothing stores, office supply store, pet supply store, or other specialty stores?
Ok, so now that the whole project has been scrapped, let loose with the details.  Name the corporations, the retailers, the location.  Can't be any reason not to do so, right?  Name the developer.  Let loose.  You knew a bunch of details.  Spill it.
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I'm going to wait until I read about this in the newspaper or see excavators moving.  I have better things to do with my free time than read this.
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Post by Garrett »

If the second guest is who I think he is, then whats the harm in hoping? Come on, optimism people, the recession is over and just in the last year look at all of the projects that have started. North Downtown is ripe, so why not?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I can confirm this, however, its in such an early/preliminary stage of the process it is barely worth mentioning.
It's great to hear that an anonymous person can stand firmly behind the anonymous OP.  This confirms the OP isn't lying  :lol:

I know how this thread is going to end.  You are going to say, "see, we told you this would happen" when the Shamrock development breaks ground.
I am the one that posted this.  I am also a very regular poster on this forum and have been for several years.  Brad can check the IPs and stuff if he wants to.  

But here is my point, developers do feasibility studies all the time, more often than not it doesn't amount to much.  I just wanted to confirm that yes, something is being discussed, but it really isn't even worth talking about because it is so early on in the process.
In addition to that, Brad can also link my posts to several other rumors initiated by a guest, that have been since confirmed.
Well I hope you are either Cdub or that he could chime in.  The thing that makes this just seem a little bit questionable is 4 block area.  Here's to hoping though.
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^^ Yeah the only 4 blocks that seemed reasonable to me was The Yard and the block directly west of that.

Obviously if this is anything wouldn't be for a few years.  Maybe this could start as Shamrock finishes.

I'm with you Linkin heres to hoping is the right mentality right now.
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