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Menards (Stony Brook)

Postby Coyote » Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:20 am

I heard an unreliable rumor that the former StonyBrook KMart was to become a Menards.
Anyone heard anything about this bay?
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Postby RNcyanide » Wed Jun 29, 2016 9:04 am

That would be a dinky Menards.
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Re: Omaha Area Kmart Discussion

Postby Coyote » Wed Jun 29, 2016 9:06 am

RNcyanide wrote:That would be a dinky Menards.


That was my first reaction which made me think that it was unreliable...
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Re: Omaha Area Kmart Discussion

Postby Brad » Wed Jun 29, 2016 10:02 am

Coyote wrote:I heard an unreliable rumor that the former StonyBrook KMart was to become a Menards.
Anyone heard anything about this bay?


I thought we had a thread on this. We talked about it on Grow Omaha when I was on 6/11.

The Rumor was Super Saver was moving to where Bag & Save closed a mile west on 156th and Q, then Menards was going to the Super Saver/Kmart area.

Super Saver is about 8 acres
Kmart is about 8 acres
Menards in Elkhorn is 17 acres
Menards in Ralston is 17 acres

So it looks like if they do go there, they would need both lots.
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Re: Omaha Area Kmart Discussion

Postby Coyote » Wed Jun 29, 2016 10:38 am

Will they rebuild or use the existing buildings? Is the Gas station going also then?
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Re: Omaha Area Kmart Discussion

Postby Brad » Wed Jun 29, 2016 10:53 am

Coyote wrote:Will they rebuild or use the existing buildings? Is the Gas station going also then?


LOL... Menards already sells Bacon, Eggs, and 2x4's, why not keep the gas station too :;):
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Re: Omaha Area Kmart Discussion

Postby HR Paperstacks » Wed Jun 29, 2016 2:17 pm

Brad wrote:Menards already sells Bacon, Eggs

Really? Why?

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Menards (Stony Brook)

Postby nebugeater » Wed Jun 29, 2016 2:31 pm

HR Paperstacks wrote:
Brad wrote:Menards already sells Bacon, Eggs

Really? Why?



As crazy as it sounds if you don't frequent there they have a small grocery section.

Milk, cereal, liminted can good, some frozen items etc.

NEver bought any of it but I also go to Lowes or HD over Menards any chance I can.
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Re: Menards (Stony Brook)

Postby GRANDPASMUCKER » Wed Jun 29, 2016 10:25 pm

I really like the idea of having a Menards out here in Millard and would throw down a little cash in there. Supersaver should just pack it in and go back to Lincoln if they know whats good for them. Supersaver is getting destroyed by the nice HyVee on Stonybrook Blvd. People are just to smart out here in Millard to go to a dump like SuperSaver when a HyVee is close by. If they move to 156th & Q and then they are close to the Hyvee on 180th & Q.Besides I think its safe to say there is some kind of curse on that 156th & Q strip mall with 2 warehouse grocery stores ending bad there already. I hope Supersaver does stay but I can't believe they are that foolish.

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Re: Menards (Stony Brook)

Postby Coyote » Wed Jun 29, 2016 10:43 pm

I have neighbors that are geeked out about a close Menards, but I hope they demo that mess and build new, IIRC, they did that on 120th & W Dodge...? But I just have to wonder about Supersaver and what niche they are trying to cater to in the Omaha Market. Granted their Meat Market had a reputation, but their 'lower' prices were hit and miss compared to Hy-Vee and Bakers. I know it's the wrong thread to put this, but since Albertson's left and Kroger took over Bakers... It seems Hy-Vee is killing the Market and now with the Stony Brook Hy-Vee being built here these acres are better served with a Menards and Supersaver at the old Cubs/Sunmarket/B&S will just demise...
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Re: Menards (Stony Brook)

Postby jessep28 » Wed Jun 29, 2016 11:53 pm

Unless there is something going on behind the scenes, I don't see why Super Saver would want to move to a smaller retail bay that has been a revolving door for grocery store tenants since it opened.

Super Saver's current location has over 90k sq feet of retail space. The old SunMart/Cub Foods/Bag N Save location has only 80ish thousand square feet.

Two companies out of the same address in St. Louis own the K-Mart and Super Saver lots.
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Re: Menards (Stony Brook)

Postby nebugeater » Thu Jun 30, 2016 6:43 am

Just a quick though on Menards moving into the old Kmart location. Wouldn't it almost have to be a demo and rebuild? The first thing that comes to mind for me is that isn't the overall ceiling height in the Kmart building a lot lower than the typical Menards or any home improvement store. May be wrong on this but going from memory it seems this way and Menards uses all the height in a lot of the store footprint.
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Re: Menards (Stony Brook)

Postby RNcyanide » Thu Jun 30, 2016 8:31 am

nebugeater wrote:Just a quick though on Menards moving into the old Kmart location. Wouldn't it almost have to be a demo and rebuild? The first thing that comes to mind for me is that isn't the overall ceiling height in the Kmart building a lot lower than the typical Menards or any home improvement store. May be wrong on this but going from memory it seems this way and Menards uses all the height in a lot of the store footprint.


Yeah that's what I thought, not to mention there isn't a lot of space for their typical lumber yard. I'd this a for sure thing now??
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Re: Menards (Stony Brook)

Postby Coyote » Thu Jun 30, 2016 11:47 am

I just talked with someone at Menard and yes, since there is no room for the lumber yard it will have to be a rebuild.
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Re: Menards (Stony Brook)

Postby nebugeater » Thu Jun 30, 2016 11:49 am

When Menards built in Fremont at first there was no lumber yard. All the lumber they had was inside the main store.
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Re: Menards (Stony Brook)

Postby yellowcolumbia » Fri Jul 01, 2016 1:56 pm

nebugeater wrote:When Menards built in Fremont at first there was no lumber yard. All the lumber they had was inside the main store.


That was at the original store, which was a repurposed WalMart. When they built the new store down the road, it included the lumber yard. I recall the reasoning for not having a lumber yard at the original location being based on pressure from other lumberyards in town, but I don't know if that was simply a rumor.

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Re: Menards (Stony Brook)

Postby nebugeater » Fri Jul 01, 2016 3:53 pm

yellowcolumbia wrote:
nebugeater wrote:When Menards built in Fremont at first there was no lumber yard. All the lumber they had was inside the main store.


That was at the original store, which was a repurposed WalMart. When they built the new store down the road, it included the lumber yard. I recall the reasoning for not having a lumber yard at the original location being based on pressure from other lumberyards in town, but I don't know if that was simply a rumor.


Pretty sure that that is not a rumor and it was a fact.
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Re: Menards (Stony Brook)

Postby Omaha_corn_burner » Thu Aug 11, 2016 12:01 pm

If Super Saver moved to 156th and Q, I wonder if they would build a gas station. There's already a gas station in that plaza, Casey's.

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Re: Menards (Stony Brook)

Postby Omaha_corn_burner » Wed Jan 18, 2017 4:04 pm

Super Saver isn't moving to 156th and Q because somebody already signed a lease.

Pretty sure Menards isn't happening

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Re: Menards (Stony Brook)

Postby nebugeater » Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:22 pm

Omaha_corn_burner wrote:Super Saver isn't moving to 156th and Q because somebody already signed a lease.

Pretty sure Menards isn't happening



Who is the "somebody"
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Re: Menards (Stony Brook)

Postby GRANDPASMUCKER » Wed Jan 18, 2017 8:58 pm

nebugeater wrote:
Omaha_corn_burner wrote:Super Saver isn't moving to 156th and Q because somebody already signed a lease.

Pretty sure Menards isn't happening



Who is the "somebody"


Someone bought a trampoline party franchise and is sticking it in the dead grocery store on 156th & Q.
n on the corner to

http://www.urbanairtrampolinepark.com/

Question is, if Menards was buying the old Kmart building wouldn't they buy the old Smacks/Buckys gas station that was on the corner. That gas station has a for sale sign on it right now.

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Re: Menards (Stony Brook)

Postby Omaha_corn_burner » Thu Jan 19, 2017 9:43 am

nebugeater wrote:
Omaha_corn_burner wrote:Super Saver isn't moving to 156th and Q because somebody already signed a lease.

Pretty sure Menards isn't happening



Who is the "somebody"


The Bag N Save thread was locked, so I made a new thread.
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Re: Menards (Stony Brook)

Postby nebugeater » Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:43 am

Thanks

I did see the other thread after I saw this and asked.
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Re: Menards (Stony Brook)

Postby GRANDPASMUCKER » Tue Jan 24, 2017 5:09 pm

Omaha_corn_burner wrote:Super Saver isn't moving to 156th and Q because somebody already signed a lease.

Pretty sure Menards isn't happening



The Menards deal is dead for sure I heard a few days ago. Supersaver is staying put with no plans to leave. They are looking for a long term tenant for K-marts space and currently have had no good offers. There have been some offers but none of them were for at least 3 years which is the minimum they will accept.

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Postby Zip250 » Wed Nov 08, 2017 8:48 pm

I heard super saver is moving to a space on 144th and Center where bag N Save used to be and Menards will take both KMart and super savers lots. Also hearing both properties have been sold to developers

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Postby jessep28 » Wed Nov 08, 2017 9:56 pm

Super Saver moving from their own building along a busy road to a leased strip mall bay still doesn't seem logical.
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Re: Menards (Stony Brook)

Postby TheSeventhBrat » Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:03 pm

jessep28 wrote:Super Saver moving from their own building along a busy road to a leased strip mall bay still doesn't seem logical.

Well. Pat Raybould is an idiot, so this wouldn't shock me.

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Postby ZippityZip » Thu Nov 09, 2017 5:44 am

Zip250 wrote:I heard super saver is moving to a space on 144th and Center where bag N Save used to be and Menards will take both KMart and super savers lots. Also hearing both properties have been sold to developers



Where did Bag N Save used to be on 144th and Center? I have always known it to be where it is currently at, now under the Family Fare name.

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Re: Menards (Stony Brook)

Postby GrandpaaSmucker » Thu Nov 09, 2017 8:33 am

Supersaver is a slum. Nobody in their right mind goes there instead of Hy-Vee next door. Back in the 80's when I lived in Benson it was always a good idea to avoid the No Frills on 80th & Blondo unless you liked shopping with every weirdo and scrounge in that end of town. Now I live in Millard and Supersaver is the same way. Most people in Millard won't go near Supersaver but our less then savory crowd loves the place. My prediciton is that Supersaver will just close someday soon and not move anywhere else.

I heard from a pretty good source that the Menards deal was dead in the water a year ago. One of the reasons was that Menards decided that the property was not big enough.

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Postby jessep28 » Thu Nov 09, 2017 1:45 pm

That Super Saver has a warehouse club feel to it, but it's always been clean whenever I've been in there.
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Postby Coyote » Thu Nov 09, 2017 2:01 pm

Also has a good meat dept.
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Re: Menards (Stony Brook)

Postby Busguy2010 » Thu Nov 09, 2017 2:47 pm

GrandpaaSmucker wrote:Supersaver is a slum. Nobody in their right mind goes there instead of Hy-Vee next door. Back in the 80's when I lived in Benson it was always a good idea to avoid the No Frills on 80th & Blondo unless you liked shopping with every weirdo and scrounge in that end of town. Now I live in Millard and Supersaver is the same way. Most people in Millard won't go near Supersaver but our less then savory crowd loves the place. My prediciton is that Supersaver will just close someday soon and not move anywhere else.

I heard from a pretty good source that the Menards deal was dead in the water a year ago. One of the reasons was that Menards decided that the property was not big enough.


I get the feel Millard isn't as nice as it's made out to be. A lot of cheaply built, poorly maintained houses that could easily sell for under $100,000, decrepit strip malls and other businesses. I have the same feeling about 108th to 132nd and Maple area.

Off topic, but I've always felt areas that have the crappy cookie-cutter type homes will eventually become "low-income" because they just aren't good houses. They will depreciate to the point low-income types will be able to move in and that will be it. It won't happen quickly, but it will happen.

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Postby Silverspoon » Thu Nov 09, 2017 5:10 pm

I predict that the next business to move into the old K-mart location will be Spirit Halloween.
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Re: Menards (Stony Brook)

Postby GrandpaaSmucker » Thu Nov 09, 2017 5:58 pm

Coyote wrote:Also has a good meat dept.


Seriously :what:

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Re: Menards (Stony Brook)

Postby GrandpaaSmucker » Thu Nov 09, 2017 6:00 pm

Silverspoon wrote:I predict that the next business to move into the old K-mart location will be Spirit Halloween.


I was told that they will not lease for less then 2 years and they prefer at least a 3 year lease.

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Re: Menards (Stony Brook)

Postby Louie » Thu Nov 09, 2017 6:58 pm

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GrandpaaSmucker wrote:Supersaver is a slum. Nobody in their right mind goes there instead of Hy-Vee next door. Back in the 80's when I lived in Benson it was always a good idea to avoid the No Frills on 80th & Blondo unless you liked shopping with every weirdo and scrounge in that end of town. Now I live in Millard and Supersaver is the same way. Most people in Millard won't go near Supersaver but our less then savory crowd loves the place. My prediciton is that Supersaver will just close someday soon and not move anywhere else.

I heard from a pretty good source that the Menards deal was dead in the water a year ago. One of the reasons was that Menards decided that the property was not big enough.


I get the feel Millard isn't as nice as it's made out to be. A lot of cheaply built, poorly maintained houses that could easily sell for under $100,000, decrepit strip malls and other businesses. I have the same feeling about 108th to 132nd and Maple area.

Off topic, but I've always felt areas that have the crappy cookie-cutter type homes will eventually become "low-income" because they just aren't good houses. They will depreciate to the point low-income types will be able to move in and that will be it. It won't happen quickly, but it will happen.

Completely agree. Nobody is going to invest in those properties and update them. So they will just degrade over time.

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Postby damonhynes » Thu Nov 09, 2017 9:20 pm

jessep28 wrote:That Super Saver has a warehouse club feel to it, but it's always been clean whenever I've been in there.


I've never had a problem w/ it.
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Postby damonhynes » Thu Nov 09, 2017 9:22 pm

GrandpaaSmucker wrote:Back in the 80's when I lived in Benson it was always a good idea to avoid the No Frills on 80th & Blondo unless you liked shopping with every weirdo and scrounge in that end of town.


I worked there 1987-88. Drunks, thugs and drunk thugs.
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Re: Menards (Stony Brook)

Postby Busguy2010 » Fri Nov 10, 2017 12:01 am

Louie wrote:Completely agree. Nobody is going to invest in those properties and update them. So they will just degrade over time.


I work with someone who does do it. He basically just updates the curb appeal, makes cheap cosmetic improvements and turns it over quickly. Great way to make money at the expense of the buyer. But I don't think an actual homeowner should make upgrades at their own cost. Like you said, nobody should do it because it just won't gain them anything in property value. There's just a certain ceiling that the cookie-cutter type home can reach and it is pretty darn low.


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