The Big 10 thread
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- nativeomahan
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Depends on what time frame you're looking at - if you're looking all-time, then Northwestern and Indiana.iamjacobm wrote:Depends which sport. Football? Minnesota and Indiana easy.nativeomahan wrote:If the Big 10 has 12 teams, who pray tell are the Little 2?
"Destiny is not a matter of chance, it is a matter of choice; it is not a thing to be waited for, it is a thing to be achieved."
--William Jennings Bryan
--William Jennings Bryan
I stand corrected. Â Incessant whining on internet message boards does work:
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5930029
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5930029
Jim Delany has spent more than two decades as commissioner of the Big Ten, overseeing two conference expansions and the formation of the Big Ten Network.
None of it prepared him for the overwhelmingly negative reaction to the conference's new division names.
Delany said during an interview with WGN AM-720 in Chicago on Thursday that the names Legends and Leaders were picked to highlight the conference's rich history, and that "to a great extent it's fallen on deaf ears." Many fans have instead mocked the names and asked officials to reconsider, which Delany said could happen after the first of the year.
The thing I do like about the names being non-directional or geographical is it allows for easy realignment down the road if necessary. Â I really think the B12 suffered when the on-field power was consolidated in one division (first the north, then the south).
Hopefully the B10 will consider realignment once Nebraska dominates the conference to give Iowa a chance.
Hopefully the B10 will consider realignment once Nebraska dominates the conference to give Iowa a chance.
NCAA requires loss of contests for six Ohio State football student-athletes
http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/pub ... t-athletes
Dang, Nebraska is their 6th game...
Five football student-athletes from The Ohio State University must sit out the first five games of the 2011 season for selling awards, gifts and university apparel and receiving improper benefits in 2009, the NCAA has determined.
A sixth football student-athlete must sit out the first game in 2011 for receiving discounted services in violation of NCAA rules.
The violations fall under the NCAA’s preferential treatment bylaws.
In addition to missing five games next season, student-athletes Mike Adams, Daniel Herron, Devier Posey, Terrelle Pryor and Solomon Thomas must repay money and benefits ranging in value from $1,000 to $2,500. The repayments must be made to a charity.
Student-athlete Jordan Whiting must sit out the first game next year and pay $150 to a charity for the value of services that were discounted because of his status as a student-athlete.
http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/pub ... t-athletes
Dang, Nebraska is their 6th game...
I am rooting Big 10. Â Mostly because of the match ups though. Â The teams the Big 10 plays that I really don't like: Texas Tech, Florida, Missouri, TCU, Alabama. Â The three opponents I kind of like are Baylor, Mississippi St. and Arkansas. Â
I am for sure rooting hard for Michigan St. and Wisconsin.
I am for sure rooting hard for Michigan St. and Wisconsin.
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Plenty of time for this to be figured out. Â The DC will be interim HC for the year and they will fill to position after the next season, or so says the Columbus paper.Greg S wrote:ESPN has Urban Meyer number 1 on the list to replace him with Bo at #2.iamjacobm wrote:Tressel resigned this morning.
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For the record NEBUGEATER does not equal BUGEATER !!!!!!!
I think how hard the NCAA hits OSU will have an impact on the next coach as well. Â Will be hard to move an established coach to a team that will be limited on TV, bowls, and scholarships. Â You'll also be following Tressel (did not leave the best situation but he won big at OSU, dominated Michigan and won a National Title). Â I'd rather follow Bill Callahan than Tom Oscborne....
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Well, doesn't sound like Pryor will be their quarterback next year. Â Apparently is linked to over a half dozen cars over the three years he's been at tOSU. Â This is something that has been known but before it was glossed as "borrowing", this SI column coming out is going to be bad...
http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/sp ... 0/zzz.html
http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/sp ... 0/zzz.html
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While SMU may not have deserved the death penalty - they deserved something as severe. They were on Probation 5 times prior to 85 when they were put on a 3 year probation. Their ultimate blunder was Bill Clements the Chairman of their Board of Governors, and Governor elect of Texas. Even after being put on probation he kept the slush funding of athletes. So this went straight to the top of the program.Linkin5 wrote:I am thinking somewhere between the two. SMU never deserved the death penalty though.Big E wrote:So, sanctions in the USC neighborhood or the SMU neighborhood?
For USC and OSU it appears it only went as high as the head coaches. If for OSU it was only selling of memorabilia the 5 game suspension would have stayed. But Tressel lied and we know what happened to Dez Bryant for lying that he did not have lunch with Primtime. And Tressel already lied to the NCAA while at Youngstown St.
That said, OSU had to have pressured Tressel to resign - otherwise they would have to explain why they retained his services, so now that he is gone - the only question is about the supposed 50 cars and school knowledge. Tressel should be banned from the NCAA for several years, and OSU should get something similar to USC.
Perhaps I should restate that. Â If SMU got the death penalty then there should have been other programs out there at the same time that should have got it as well, the Eric Dickerson episode with A&M was just the tip of the iceberg what the aggies were doing during that period that would be deemed illegal but ultimately got swept under the carpet.Coyote wrote:While SMU may not have deserved the death penalty - they deserved something as severe. They were on Probation 5 times prior to 85 when they were put on a 3 year probation. Their ultimate blunder was Bill Clements the Chairman of their Board of Governors, and Governor elect of Texas. Even after being put on probation he kept the slush funding of athletes. So this went straight to the top of the program.Linkin5 wrote:I am thinking somewhere between the two. SMU never deserved the death penalty though.Big E wrote:So, sanctions in the USC neighborhood or the SMU neighborhood?
For USC and OSU it appears it only went as high as the head coaches. If for OSU it was only selling of memorabilia the 5 game suspension would have stayed. But Tressel lied and we know what happened to Dez Bryant for lying that he did not have lunch with Primtime. And Tressel already lied to the NCAA while at Youngstown St.
That said, OSU had to have pressured Tressel to resign - otherwise they would have to explain why they retained his services, so now that he is gone - the only question is about the supposed 50 cars and school knowledge. Tressel should be banned from the NCAA for several years, and OSU should get something similar to USC.
While some are happy about tOSU getting busted it makes me nervous as heck as a Nebraska fan. Â If you don't think there is some form of this going on in Lincoln, or the capability of this occurring in the future you are naive.
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I think the NCAA saw what happened to SMU and would have to be forced to enforce another death penalty. As for other programs getting that ax... we will never know why SMU was singled out and the other violating schools left alone. I still think it was because it went all the way to the Board of Governor's approving payments to players even after they were cited. Clements later stated why he didn't admit to knowledge of this: because there was not a bible in the room.Linkin5 wrote:Perhaps I should restate that. If SMU got the death penalty then there should have been other programs out there at the same time that should have got it as well, the Eric Dickerson episode with A&M was just the tip of the iceberg what the aggies were doing during that period that would be deemed illegal but ultimately got swept under the carpet.
While some are happy about tOSU getting busted it makes me nervous as heck as a Nebraska fan. If you don't think there is some form of this going on in Lincoln, or the capability of this occurring in the future you are naive.
ESPN Radio was talking about other schools today. When the NCAA puts a school under a microscope because of maybe even minor infractions - look out. I agree with you, from boosters providing no show jobs, cars at discounts, pocket cash, selling tickets almost any school could be found with violations. After Armen Keteyian's book in the late 80's I thought NU's program was going to suffer. You never know when the hammer might come down.
Considering the previous issues under Tressel (at YSU and OSU under Earle Bruce) I can't see how the NCAA can't come down harder than they did on USC. Â They simply have to to maintain credibility after their limp-wristed swipe at Alabama and Mississippi State and the Congressional interest in the BCS. Â Yes, I know the NCAA and BCS are separate... which is exactly why the NCAA needs to at least pretend to be on the moral high-ground after the Fiesta/Junker fiasco.
I don't think this thing is even close to being done, either. Â You're going to see some finger pointing and in-front-of-the-bus throwing on an American Gangster level by the time this all wraps up.
I don't think this thing is even close to being done, either. Â You're going to see some finger pointing and in-front-of-the-bus throwing on an American Gangster level by the time this all wraps up.
Stable genius.
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As time goes on - and now they say the 6 memorabilia infractions now are 28 going back to 2002 - I don't see this ending soon. More rumors coming out of students and expensive cars driven by players...
I think the NCAA wants to start sending messages to schools. They have shielded their bread and butter schools in the past. But after USC - OSU might be their next message.
I think the NCAA wants to start sending messages to schools. They have shielded their bread and butter schools in the past. But after USC - OSU might be their next message.
Yeah, wouldn't that do great things for college football... You know, there is a reason why myself and millions of other people hang on to college football and couldn't give a |expletive| less about the NFL... see lockout. Ah, just imagine a bunch of college kids with collective bargaining rights.ThatGuy wrote:The big state schools should start their own league and tell the governing powers to go to heck. There are probably 50-60 schools that could pay football/basketball players and still rake in money.
Apparently Pryor doesn't really care about what is going on, following article shows that he just showed up at a team meeting yesterday in ANOTHER new car.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/b ... aaf-wp2035
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/b ... aaf-wp2035
Why would he? Â Assuming no explicitly illegal activity, there's literally zero incentive for Bush, Clarett, Newton, Pryor, et al, that are going to make millions to start making those millions a little bit earlier and in smaller chunks.
Only difference is Maurice the Space Cowboy was just stupid about it.
Only difference is Maurice the Space Cowboy was just stupid about it.
Stable genius.