Garrett wrote:What if they converted one of the wings into an entertainment wing? Bars, restaurants, etc. drinks can be carried from place to place, like a more adult food court so to speak.
That's a good idea.
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Garrett wrote:What if they converted one of the wings into an entertainment wing? Bars, restaurants, etc. drinks can be carried from place to place, like a more adult food court so to speak.
I mean how does one keep any entertainment district going? Make it entertaining, make it distinctive.Greg S wrote:I think that works for a few years but it's difficult to keep something like that going.
Greg
A management group close enough to the ground that it can move quickly is key. If the OM was managed by some big property management place, it would have gone to seed long ago. Benson would have not rebuilt.Garrett wrote:I mean how does one keep any entertainment district going? Make it entertaining, make it distinctive.Greg S wrote:I think that works for a few years but it's difficult to keep something like that going.
Greg
To me in this space I think it gets stale fairly quickly. Remember the suggestion was to put this in one of the wings in the mall.Garrett wrote:I mean how does one keep any entertainment district going? Make it entertaining, make it distinctive.Greg S wrote:I think that works for a few years but it's difficult to keep something like that going.
Greg
When it is 100 degrees or 0 degrees outside an indoor entertainment district would have a distinct advantage.Greg S wrote:To me in this space I think it gets stale fairly quickly. Remember the suggestion was to put this in one of the wings in the mall.Garrett wrote:I mean how does one keep any entertainment district going? Make it entertaining, make it distinctive.Greg S wrote:I think that works for a few years but it's difficult to keep something like that going.
Greg
It's not like Benson that can grow and change on the fly, host outdoor festivals etc...
Greg
Is this true? I had no idea about this, probably because I was young when Oakview opened.It was originally slated to be residential, the streets were already poured, but no houses built. Then, it all got torn out, and the mall was built.
Nope. It was never going to be residential & there were no streets poured. I was old when it opened. At the time it opened folks were wondering how long Westroads would survive.BPHusker wrote:Someone wrote an interesting comment in the comment section of one of the articles:Is this true? I had no idea about this, probably because I was young when Oakview opened.It was originally slated to be residential, the streets were already poured, but no houses built. Then, it all got torn out, and the mall was built.
1991nebugeater wrote:what year did Oak view open?
Sounds illogical to me. Westroads is a house of cards that will come down hard sooner or later just like CrossRoads did. The rough element will be the death of Westroads. Its just a matter of when and the signs are over the wall that that time could be soon. Nex will burn out and the truth will come out that they are all loosing money out there. Don't write off Oakview just yet it might just outlast them all.lonnie wrote:I spent an hour patiently waiting for my wife shopping at Dillard's at Oakview, the future does not look good at Oakview.
I did not do an exact count, but it seems like only 60% occupied (non-anchors) at this peak shopping time. The management put a little lipstick on this pig by decorating the empty store fronts to some degree.
Most surprising is the food court, I'd guess this is only 40% occupied, the pizza oven place that opened a few months ago is now closed.
Unless they can reboot this place with totally unique stores, most area shoppers are going to the Westroads, NEX Outlets and Amazon.
You think Westroads will fall? Here's why Westroads is doing so well.. think of its population around the mall: Regency neighborhood where people have money. It's actually easier to get to Westroads by freeway from 144th and I-80 than Oakview. Westroads pretty much has its own exit. That mall isn't going anywhere. It's doing so well that everyone wants in and there's no space. That's why the old food court will make room for 2 larger stores. Crossroads could come back with unique retailers that no other mall has.GRANDPASMUCKER wrote:Sounds illogical to me. Westroads is a house of cards that will come down hard sooner or later just like CrossRoads did. The rough element will be the death of Westroads. Its just a matter of when and the signs are over the wall that that time could be soon. Nex will burn out and the truth will come out that they are all loosing money out there. Don't write off Oakview just yet it might just outlast them all.lonnie wrote:I spent an hour patiently waiting for my wife shopping at Dillard's at Oakview, the future does not look good at Oakview.
I did not do an exact count, but it seems like only 60% occupied (non-anchors) at this peak shopping time. The management put a little lipstick on this pig by decorating the empty store fronts to some degree.
Most surprising is the food court, I'd guess this is only 40% occupied, the pizza oven place that opened a few months ago is now closed.
Unless they can reboot this place with totally unique stores, most area shoppers are going to the Westroads, NEX Outlets and Amazon.
There were indeed a couple streets in the middle of the field. I lived right across the street and shot off model rockets over there, as well as learned to drive (a bit before my time).NovakOmaha wrote:
Nope. It was never going to be residential & there were no streets poured. I was old when it opened. At the time it opened folks were wondering how long Westroads would survive.
Just when I think someone can't possibly out-stupid himself...GRANDPASMUCKER wrote:
Sounds illogical to me. Westroads is a house of cards that will come down hard sooner or later just like CrossRoads did. The rough element will be the death of Westroads. Its just a matter of when and the signs are over the wall that that time could be soon. Nex will burn out and the truth will come out that they are all loosing money out there. Don't write off Oakview just yet it might just outlast them all.
GRANDPASMUCKER wrote:"Oakview is nice and isn't as dead as people make it out to be, but the population around it is nothing financially compared to Westroads"
I wouldn't bet on that. West Center on both sides from about 168th out to the Platte River is full of people who are loaded with crazy money.
This coming from a guy calling himself a Nebraska native who then posts in the Nebraska Football thread that he thinks the stadium sell out streak will come to an end and that Nebraskans are fools to still keep paying such high prices. Lets face it man you are out of touch and dont get it. Even if you have lived around here for a long time! Ill put my predictions up against yours any day of the week. The Oakview mall aint going anywhere and Nebraska's sell out streak is not ending anytime soon.nativeomahan wrote:Just when I think someone can't possibly out-stupid himself...GRANDPASMUCKER wrote:
Sounds illogical to me. Westroads is a house of cards that will come down hard sooner or later just like CrossRoads did. The rough element will be the death of Westroads. Its just a matter of when and the signs are over the wall that that time could be soon. Nex will burn out and the truth will come out that they are all loosing money out there. Don't write off Oakview just yet it might just outlast them all.
Grandpa, in real life, the sell out streak has already ended. They have donors who "buy" the unsold tickets to make it look like it is still going. Been over for a couple of years now.GRANDPASMUCKER wrote:This coming from a guy calling himself a Nebraska native who then posts in the Nebraska Football thread that he thinks the stadium sell out streak will come to an end and that Nebraskans are fools to still keep paying such high prices. Lets face it man you are out of touch and dont get it. Even if you have lived around here for a long time! Ill put my predictions up against yours any day of the week. The Oakview mall aint going anywhere and Nebraska's sell out streak is not ending anytime soon.nativeomahan wrote:Just when I think someone can't possibly out-stupid himself...GRANDPASMUCKER wrote:
Sounds illogical to me. Westroads is a house of cards that will come down hard sooner or later just like CrossRoads did. The rough element will be the death of Westroads. Its just a matter of when and the signs are over the wall that that time could be soon. Nex will burn out and the truth will come out that they are all loosing money out there. Don't write off Oakview just yet it might just outlast them all.
The new Sols is a couple blocks south of 144th & Q and the Oakview Mall is at 144th & Center. They are pretty far apart. Sols put the sign up this week and it looks like they are about to open in a week or so. We did have some serious crime out here this week as the Hy-vee across the street from Sols got robbed this week on 144th & Stoneybrook. They got away with 75,000 cash but were soon rounded up and currently reside at the Corrections Center. Turns out a 21 year old store manager had his friend show up at the cash room with a gun right when it was flush with cash.TitosBuritoBarn wrote:I thought that pawn shop was going to bring down the neighborhood? What's Oak View gonna do when all those undesirables start moving in to be close to the pawn shop?
My wife and I recently went to Babys'R'Us, followed by BuyBuyBaby. Babys'R'Us is a dump by comparison. The floors were dirty, displays were faded, disorganized, and and just generally dingy. Even when you first arrive, you see the deteriorated parking lot. It just gives the impression that there's no effort to take care of the place.omaha79 wrote:Oak View is just sad these days. There is nothing that mall or the developments around it can offer that one can't get somewhere else. Walking into that mall, it feels like you've walked into a time warp to 1991. Almost nothing has changed since the facility opened...except for all the empty storefronts these days.
The AMC Oak View 24 theater is an incredibly depressing experience. That theater has turned into a pit as well. It needs to be renovated or closed. The last time I watched a movie there, well, it was the last time I'll be going there. The theater felt dirty and disgusting.
I've mentioned too how I think AMC Oak View 24 is either in need of a huge renovation or might just be on its last legs. But, yes, other stores are showing a ton of wear and tear as well. The entire complex is in need of a huge renovation, but how do you justify it when you're losing stores at such an alarming rate?Seth wrote:My wife and I recently went to Babys'R'Us, followed by BuyBuyBaby. Babys'R'Us is a dump by comparison. The floors were dirty, displays were faded, disorganized, and and just generally dingy. Even when you first arrive, you see the deteriorated parking lot. It just gives the impression that there's no effort to take care of the place.omaha79 wrote:Oak View is just sad these days. There is nothing that mall or the developments around it can offer that one can't get somewhere else. Walking into that mall, it feels like you've walked into a time warp to 1991. Almost nothing has changed since the facility opened...except for all the empty storefronts these days.
The AMC Oak View 24 theater is an incredibly depressing experience. That theater has turned into a pit as well. It needs to be renovated or closed. The last time I watched a movie there, well, it was the last time I'll be going there. The theater felt dirty and disgusting.
We don't do much shopping out there, but that's pretty much how I'd describe the experience there.
More often than not, I find myself going to the theaters with the recliners and in seat dining, but I go to AkSarBen quite a bit too. There is room for both.Greg S wrote:After the renovations done at Twin Creek and Majestic, I find it hard to justify going to any theatre that does not have reserved seats (not to mention the leather recliners).
Greg
Yep. Times have changed. 20 Grand and Oak View 24 were the places to see movies for a whole generation of kids. Seriously, no one wanted to go to places like Q Cinema 9, Park 4, and Cinema Center after those places opened. They just seemed so cool and high tech.NovakOmaha wrote:Wow. I remember when Oak View 24 opened. Shortly after the 20 screen one opened on Maple. The oak view one was amazing. We went to a benefit grand opening & it blew everything in Omaha away. Times sure change
omaha79 wrote:Yep. Times have changed. 20 Grand and Oak View 24 were the places to see movies for a whole generation of kids. Seriously, no one wanted to go to places like Q Cinema 9, Park 4, and Cinema Center after those places opened. They just seemed so cool and high tech.NovakOmaha wrote:Wow. I remember when Oak View 24 opened. Shortly after the 20 screen one opened on Maple. The oak view one was amazing. We went to a benefit grand opening & it blew everything in Omaha away. Times sure change
The dynamic has changed and both places were allowed to become run down. 20 Grand was renovated, but AMC 24 has been allowed to sit and rot away tucked back behind a dying mall where most people now forget about it in the face of so many better movie going options. The insides feel like a time warp to the mid 90's. They have the same cheesy spaceship design that looks like it was lifted from one of the bad Star Trek The Next Generation sequels. The auditoriums were dirty, the floors sticky, and they haven't upgraded the chairs since it opened.
Even the exterior and parking lot seemed to be in bad shape the last time I was there. Unless they've done something about it, the parking lot was rutted up. The grand entrance area was full of cracked pavement.
You can tell that business is down there too. The secondary concession stands were pretty much out of business when I was there. One was mostly curtained off with a couple of video games in front of them to occupy the space.
As of now, it just feels like a sad end for a once proud theater. I give it 5 years or less unless they spend the money to renovate....but, with Village Point and Alamo both within 10 minutes of Oak View along with the general state of the mall and the general decline of theater going making huge multi plexes of 20+ screens less necessary, what's the point?