Jeffrey Robb
WORLD-HERALD STAFF WRITER wrote:
CVS pharmacy has eyes on building a new drugstore northeast of 132nd Street and West Center Road, but it’s unclear what the proposal means for the Post & Nickel, a long-standing, locally owned clothing store on that site.
Jeffrey Robb
WORLD-HERALD STAFF WRITER wrote:Layne Sup, whose parents started the clothing store, said the store’s owners are just looking at options and “the whole project is still up in the air.”
“We don’t want everybody to think that we’re closing,” he told The World-Herald on Tuesday.
Jeffrey Robb
WORLD-HERALD STAFF WRITER wrote:It’s possible CVS could lease the ground from the current owners but build a new drugstore it would own.
CVS declined to comment about its plans or any arrangement in place with the Post & Nickel, saying it is early in the development process.
Not that I have any endearment to CVS, but if this project went through I hope Post & Nickel remains in another location. I've thought for sometime downtown or midtown would be a better location for the store. Midtown Crossings obviously(if there's any space left) or my fantasy would be in North Downtown in a new mixed-use development. Being close to Urban Outfitters and America Apparel could help bolster and feed off one another as more of a retail destination.
nebport5 wrote:
Not that I have any endearment to CVS, but if this project went through I hope Post & Nickel remains in another location. I've thought for sometime downtown or midtown would be a better location for the store. Midtown Crossings obviously(if there's any space left) or my fantasy would be in North Downtown in a new mixed-use development. Being close to Urban Outfitters and America Apparel could help bolster and feed off one another as more of a retail destination.
The majority of their shoppers live and work out west, it makes no sense to put them downtown. I shop their frequently and I can say I would go their less if they were downtown.
nebport5 wrote:
Not that I have any endearment to CVS, but if this project went through I hope Post & Nickel remains in another location. I've thought for sometime downtown or midtown would be a better location for the store. Midtown Crossings obviously(if there's any space left) or my fantasy would be in North Downtown in a new mixed-use development. Being close to Urban Outfitters and America Apparel could help bolster and feed off one another as more of a retail destination.
The majority of their shoppers live and work out west, it makes no sense to put them downtown. I shop their frequently and I can say I would go their less if they were downtown.
It makes plenty of sense, turns it into a city wide store instead of a predominately west O shop. P&N would have a far brighter future in North Downtown than they do at their current location.
iamjacobm wrote:
It makes plenty of sense, turns it into a city wide store instead of a predominately west O shop. P&N would have a far brighter future in North Downtown than they do at their current location.
People from Dundee, Midtown, North O, or South O are not going to be buying $200 cashmere from P&N.
P&N would go out of business if they went downtown.
P&N is not and will never be a "City wide" store. It's not supposed to be and cannot. It's a contemporary wealthy person's store and they have to target that clientele.
iamjacobm wrote:
It makes plenty of sense, turns it into a city wide store instead of a predominately west O shop. P&N would have a far brighter future in North Downtown than they do at their current location.
People from Dundee, Midtown, North O, or South O are not going to be buying $200 cashmere from P&N.
P&N would go out of business if they went downtown.
P&N is not and will never be a "City wide" store. It's not supposed to be and cannot. It's a contemporary wealthy person's store and they have to target that clientele.
That is quite the generalization about the people that live in those areas. There are PLENTY of people in West O that aren't buying $200 cashmere. And I'm sure there are tons of Fairacre home owners ripping their bong's right now.
I am sure their future is brighter at a corner that is such hot property a CVS wants to build there instead of the up and coming shopping/entertainment area of the city.
The majority of their shoppers may be out west simply because they've been at that location for so long. A location, I might add, which has really become an island in a sea of second hand discount retail. Consider over the years Baker's, Brandei's, Target, and Richman-Gordman, have given way to No Frills, Big Lots, Garden Ridge, & Marshalls. Sounds like a great location for...
"a contemporary wealthy person's store..."
"...and they have to target that clientele." Sounds more like Regency, yet I think you're over looking P&N's broader appeal.
Perhaps the majority of "People from Dundee, Midtown, North O, or South O" may not be buying $200 cashmere from P&N, but they may be buying $200 diesel jeans and the like. You know the kind of clothing so many feel they have to go to KC for. Incidentally, I wonder who is buying $100 t-shirts from Republic of Couture and over priced hipster clothing from Urban Outfitters?
iamjacobm wrote:
It makes plenty of sense, turns it into a city wide store instead of a predominately west O shop. P&N would have a far brighter future in North Downtown than they do at their current location.
People from Dundee, Midtown, North O, or South O are not going to be buying $200 cashmere from P&N.
P&N would go out of business if they went downtown.
P&N is not and will never be a "City wide" store. It's not supposed to be and cannot. It's a contemporary wealthy person's store and they have to target that clientele.
Yeah Post and Nickel would never work in a downtown setting. Its not like their Lincoln store has been located downtown for decades or anything.
MrPoloShirt wrote:People from Dundee, Midtown, North O, or South O are not going to be buying $200 cashmere from P&N.
P&N would go out of business if they went downtown.
P&N is not and will never be a "City wide" store. It's not supposed to be and cannot. It's a contemporary wealthy person's store and they have to target that clientele.
Dundee =/= downtown
Midtown =/= downtown
North Omaha =/= downtown
South Omaha =/= downtown
There are plenty of good stores in the downtown area that have done fine over several years, no matter how exorbitantly priced they are. Could be true that it's not meant to be a city-wide store, but there's no reason it wouldn't thrive in the North Downtown area with the recent development there (QWest, ballpark, businesses being built due to the ballpark, etc).
I know when I think of contemporary wealth the stretch of Center between 120th and 144th springs immediately to mind. Nothing quite says haute couture like Hooters and Nobbies.
Bonus points: guess which one I worked at in high school?
Big E wrote:I know when I think of contemporary wealth the stretch of Center between 120th and 144th springs immediately to mind. Nothing quite says haute couture like Hooters and Nobbies.
Bonus points: guess which one I worked at in high school?
Hooters?
For the record NEBUGEATER does not equal BUGEATER !!!!!!!
iamjacobm wrote:It makes plenty of sense, turns it into a city wide store instead of a predominately west O shop. P&N would have a far brighter future in North Downtown than they do at their current location.
Kind of like Urban Outfitters? **Edit** American Apparel
I think this website should start charging its users for business advice.
iamjacobm wrote:It makes plenty of sense, turns it into a city wide store instead of a predominately west O shop. P&N would have a far brighter future in North Downtown than they do at their current location.
Kind of like Urban Outfitters? **Edit** American Apparel
I think this website should start charging its users for business advice.
American Apparel is folding nationwide and was about a step from going out of business. And the American Apparel store was rumored to be closing in Jan and are still open. Plus as far as I can find it hasn't reported as closing by the OWH yet.
I'm on Post and Nickle's email list and they just announced they are closing down. Everything in the store is being sold, all clothes and all the fixtures.
nebport5 wrote:
Perhaps the majority of "People from Dundee, Midtown, North O, or South O" may not be buying $200 cashmere from P&N, but they may be buying $200 diesel jeans and the like. You know the kind of clothing so many feel they have to go to KC for. Incidentally, I wonder who is buying $100 t-shirts from Republic of Couture and over priced hipster clothing from Urban Outfitters?
Yeah I doubt it about the $200 jeans thing.
As far as Urban Outfitters, this is a 100% college student and hipster store, the majority of which live on the eastern half of Omaha. This is why they are located downtown.
Big E wrote:I know when I think of contemporary wealth the stretch of Center between 120th and 144th springs immediately to mind. Nothing quite says haute couture like Hooters and Nobbies.
Why do people on the internet just play stupid when they are wrong or want to argue?
They are not "in the 120th and center area" they are in "west omaha," and that location services that entire area. You're just playing dumb to argue.
I personally would have never started shopping there on a regular basis if they were located downtown because I would not want to "make the trip" downtown and I would certainly NEVER just pop in casually just to browse on the days I'm bored. A lot of shopping is because of this, you do not seem to understand this.
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Linkin5 wrote:
Yeah Post and Nickel would never work in a downtown setting. Its not like their Lincoln store has been located downtown for decades or anything.
How on Earth does downtown Lincoln have anything to do with downtown Omaha?
Omaha is nearly 4 times the size of Lincoln, so Lincoln is a much more "convenient city." Additionally, downtown Lincoln is centrally located, where downtown Omaha is located on the opposite end of it's most affluent customers, so these customers must trek across the entire city to get downtown.
Your comment is just ignorant. Should we say because something works in downtown Chicago it will also work in downtown Omaha? What about downtown Moscow? Or better yet. Downtown ancient Rome?
S33 wrote:I still fail to see how selling $200 pairs of jeans downtown is a good business strategy. Maybe I'm wrong.
Here is the eomahaforum's business plan.
Sell products that cater to high end clients, most of which live on the western side of the city, and put the store on the most eastern side of the city, forcing affluent customers, most of them women, to trek to the poorest part of Omaha to buy them.
Big E wrote:I know when I think of contemporary wealth the stretch of Center between 120th and 144th springs immediately to mind. Nothing quite says haute couture like Hooters and Nobbies.
Why do people on the internet just play stupid when they are wrong or want to argue?
They are not "in the 120th and center area" they are in "west omaha," and that location services that entire area. You're just playing dumb to argue.
I personally would have never started shopping there on a regular basis if they were located downtown because I would not want to "make the trip" downtown and I would certainly NEVER just pop in casually just to browse on the days I'm bored. A lot of shopping is because of this, you do not seem to understand this.
What you fail to understand is that not everyone else in this city shares your shopping habits. Furthermore, P&N carry many "destination" brands, which very few other stores in Omaha do. By your logic, people will shop at any store close to them just to browse when they're bored, no matter if the store is J. Crew or J.C. Penny.
Btw, when you're roaming around your local Walmart killing time how many Polo shirts do you usually pick up?
MrPoloShirt wrote:Your comment is just ignorant. Should we say because something works in downtown Chicago it will also work in downtown Omaha? What about downtown Moscow? Or better yet. Downtown ancient Rome?
Why do people on the internet just play stupid when they are wrong or want to argue?
nebport5 wrote:
What you fail to understand is that not everyone else in this city shares your shopping habits. Furthermore, P&N carry many "destination" brands, which very few other stores in Omaha do. By your logic, people will shop at any store close to them just to browse when they're bored, no matter if the store is J. Crew or J.C. Penny.
I have no idea what your point is.
What you fail to understand is that most people who do share my shopping habits, happen to live in west omaha. This makes it inconvenient for them to travel downtown and they will shop less if the store moved downtown.
nebport5 wrote:
What you fail to understand is that not everyone else in this city shares your shopping habits. Furthermore, P&N carry many "destination" brands, which very few other stores in Omaha do. By your logic, people will shop at any store close to them just to browse when they're bored, no matter if the store is J. Crew or J.C. Penny.
I have no idea what your point is.
What you fail to understand is that most people who do share my shopping habits, happen to live in west omaha. This makes it inconvenient for them to travel downtown and they will shop less if the store moved downtown.
My point, was that if you have a specific product that your customers want and few of your competitors do, customers will go to you.
I disagree, however, given the news I guess it's a moot point.
nebport5 wrote:
My point, was that if you have a specific product that your customers want and few of your competitors do, customers will go to you.
I disagree, however, given the news I guess it's a moot point.
To an extent, that is true. I know quite a few "spoiled wives" who go shopping in Chicago frequently because I hear the options are a little better than Omaha's. However, in this case, I still can't see why moving further away from your customer base just to locate downtown, for no other reason than it's "downtown", would be logical.
nebport5 wrote:
My point, was that if you have a specific product that your customers want and few of your competitors do, customers will go to you.
I disagree, however, given the news I guess it's a moot point.
To an extent, that is true. I know quite a few "spoiled wives" who go shopping in Chicago frequently because I hear the options are a little better than Omaha's. However, in this case, I still can't see why moving further away from your customer base just to locate downtown, for no other reason than it's "downtown", would be logical.
The argument wasn't to get away from the Western customers. If you're going to move from your current location, and rather than moving to say another discount hub location. Why not consider another location that's already a destination for the same customer base? IE, Midtown Crossing, Old Market, and yes even Village Pointe (as mentioned much earlier in this thread). Perhaps North Downtown someday.
I think while a considerable amount of P & N's customers are out West, I think you gentleman aren't recognizing how many customers may actually be coming from Midtown and Downtown (myself being one of them). As long as Omaha is still a 20--30min city people will go to you to get products you can't find anywhere else in this state. Of course, my preference lied with MTC (home of restaurant over saturation) where such people who are already plopping down $100+ on overpriced martinis & sushi (Loft 610) may have also plopped down $80 on a Hugo Boss t-shirt (P & N).
nebport5 wrote:
My point, was that if you have a specific product that your customers want and few of your competitors do, customers will go to you.
I disagree, however, given the news I guess it's a moot point.
To an extent, that is true. I know quite a few "spoiled wives" who go shopping in Chicago frequently because I hear the options are a little better than Omaha's. However, in this case, I still can't see why moving further away from your customer base just to locate downtown, for no other reason than it's "downtown", would be logical.
The argument wasn't to get away from the Western customers. If you're going to move from your current location, and rather than moving to say another discount hub location. Why not consider another location that's already a destination for the same customer base? IE, Midtown Crossing, Old Market, and yes even Village Pointe (as mentioned much earlier in this thread). Perhaps North Downtown someday.
I think while a considerable amount of P & N's customers are out West, I think you gentleman aren't recognizing how many customers may actually be coming from Midtown and Downtown (myself being one of them). As long as Omaha is still a 20--30min city people will go to you to get products you can't find anywhere else in this state. Of course, my preference lied with MTC (home of restaurant over saturation) where such people who are already plopping down $100+ on overpriced martinis & sushi (Loft 610) may have also plopped down $80 on a Hugo Boss t-shirt (P & N).
Alas, sorry to see it go whatever the location.
P&N has a Lincoln Location unless they are closing too.
For the record NEBUGEATER does not equal BUGEATER !!!!!!!
"After 30 yrs, the Post & Nickel Omaha will be closing it's doors at 132nd & Center. Please come in for our PRESALE. Please repost this to help spread the word. We truly appreciate your business & enjoy helping each & every one of you! We hope to relocate. In the meantime, we're completely liquidating this location. EVERYTHING is priced to move! Antiques & Fixtures too!"
