UNO Maverick Athletics

Metro area and region sports discussion
User avatar
Brad
Photographer
Posts: 1036716
Joined: Sun Feb 29, 2004 12:03 am
Location: Omaha, NE

UNO Maverick Athletics

Post by Brad »

Its Official, UNO is getting Video Boards!!!

Football = One, 30 feet by 50 feet Board
Fieldhouse = Two, 8 feet by 10 feet

Sokol's money will buy video boards

http://www.omaha.com/article/20091110/S ... 1/sports03
Rob White WORLD-HERALD STAFF WRITER wrote:The new video board would sit beyond the north end zone of Caniglia Field, near the “Pep Bowl” on campus, where bleachers currently stand. Those bleachers would be moved to the south end zone near Elmwood Park. Ultimately, Alberts said, the plan is to have one common entry to the stadium near the new video board, reducing overhead created from having multiple entrances while at the same time showing off the campus.

“We've got a wonderful stadium, and we've got to do some things cosmetically to enhance that for our fans and students,” Alberts said. “I can't wait for our first home game next year
User avatar
Big E
City Council
Posts: 8181
Joined: Thu Jan 27, 2005 5:12 pm

UNO Maverick Athletics

Post by Big E »

One double A.
One double A.
One double A.
One double A.
One double A.
One double A.
One double A.
One double A.
One double A.
One double A.
For the love of Cheebus go one double A.
Stable genius.
User avatar
Brad
Photographer
Posts: 1036716
Joined: Sun Feb 29, 2004 12:03 am
Location: Omaha, NE

UNO Maverick Athletics

Post by Brad »

Looks like UNO's Video Board is up in the Fieldhouse

Image
User avatar
Coyote
City Council
Posts: 34365
Joined: Tue Nov 18, 2003 5:18 pm
Yahoo Messenger: jestcoyote
Location: Aksarben Village

UNO Maverick Athletics

Post by Coyote »

Mavs Repeat as Champs; Claim Sixth National Title
OMavs wrote:The top-ranked University of Nebraska at Omaha wrestling team collected its second straight national team title and crowned one individual national champion in front of a home crowd at the 2010 NCAA Championships inside Sapp Fieldhouse Saturday night. The Mavericks scored 131 points, 59 points ahead of runnerup Augustana College, to record the school's sixth NCAA Division II team title.

It’s UNO’s fifth title in the last seven years. The win gives UNO NCAA II wrestling titles in 1991, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2009 and 2010. The Mavericks also won the 1970 NAIA tournament championship.
User avatar
Brad
Photographer
Posts: 1036716
Joined: Sun Feb 29, 2004 12:03 am
Location: Omaha, NE

UNO Maverick Athletics

Post by Brad »

UNO is having a press conference today at 2.

Two biggest "Rumors" about the announcement:
1. UNO will announce their new Arena
2. Dean is leaving for Minnesota
the1wags
County Board
Posts: 3854
Joined: Thu Dec 02, 2004 1:43 am
Location: Denver

UNO Maverick Athletics

Post by the1wags »

I hope neither of those are true.
User avatar
Brad
Photographer
Posts: 1036716
Joined: Sun Feb 29, 2004 12:03 am
Location: Omaha, NE

UNO Maverick Athletics

Post by Brad »

the1wags wrote:I hope neither of those are true.
Me too!
User avatar
nebugeater
City Council
Posts: 111074
Joined: Wed Aug 04, 2004 11:07 pm
Location: Gretna NE

UNO Maverick Athletics

Post by nebugeater »

Brad wrote:UNO is having a press conference today at 2.

Two biggest "Rumors" about the announcement:
1. UNO will announce their new Arena
2. Dean is leaving for Minnesota
IF it were #2 the press conf to make the announcement would not be at ONO
For the record  NEBUGEATER does not equal BUGEATER    !!!!!!!
User avatar
Brad
Photographer
Posts: 1036716
Joined: Sun Feb 29, 2004 12:03 am
Location: Omaha, NE

UNO Maverick Athletics

Post by Brad »

True enough... now there is some speculation about a contract extension.
Mr.Nuke
Parks & Recreation
Posts: 1231
Joined: Wed May 09, 2007 3:12 am
Location: Omaha

UNO Maverick Athletics

Post by Mr.Nuke »

Contract extension it is for both Dean and Trev through 2015.
Last edited by Mr.Nuke on Wed Mar 31, 2010 7:14 pm, edited 2 times in total.
User avatar
Brad
Photographer
Posts: 1036716
Joined: Sun Feb 29, 2004 12:03 am
Location: Omaha, NE

UNO Maverick Athletics

Post by Brad »

And the winner is Contract Extension... Both Trev Ablerts and Dean Blais were extended through 2015.

Trev on 1620 about 2:30. He may talk about an Arena too.
User avatar
Brad
Photographer
Posts: 1036716
Joined: Sun Feb 29, 2004 12:03 am
Location: Omaha, NE

UNO Maverick Athletics

Post by Brad »

User avatar
Coyote
City Council
Posts: 34365
Joined: Tue Nov 18, 2003 5:18 pm
Yahoo Messenger: jestcoyote
Location: Aksarben Village

UNO Maverick Athletics

Post by Coyote »

Trev Alberts was at the Summit Conference basketball tourney - bringing speculation he will try to move the basketball team to Division 1. The Summit Conference has South Dakota St., North Dakota St., MO-Kansas City, Oral Roberts... The Summit is not a football conference.
User avatar
Linkin5
County Board
Posts: 4919
Joined: Wed Feb 11, 2004 1:59 am

UNO Maverick Athletics

Post by Linkin5 »

Coyote wrote:Trev Alberts was at the Summit Conference basketball tourney - bringing speculation he will try to move the basketball team to Division 1. The Summit Conference has South Dakota St., North Dakota St., MO-Kansas City, Oral Roberts... The Summit is not a football conference.
And will have another former D2 NCC school University of South Dakota in a year or two (can't remember when exactly they are eligible.) Division two is dying UNO needs to jump the ship and soon, I am pleased with how progressive Alberts has been.
OmahaBen
Human Relations
Posts: 561
Joined: Sat Apr 09, 2005 6:38 pm

UNO Maverick Athletics

Post by OmahaBen »

Coyote wrote:Trev Alberts was at the Summit Conference basketball tourney - bringing speculation he will try to move the basketball team to Division 1. The Summit Conference has South Dakota St., North Dakota St., MO-Kansas City, Oral Roberts... The Summit is not a football conference.
Can't move the basketball team to D1 without moving the entire athletic department, since a) they already have D1 hockey and you can only play up in one sport per gender, and 2) notwithstanding that, the "play-up" sport cannot be football or basketball.
User avatar
UNMCStudent
Home Owners Association
Posts: 92
Joined: Thu Oct 13, 2005 12:19 pm
Location: Midtown

Division I conference eyes Mavs

Post by UNMCStudent »

Division I conference eyes Mavs

From the OWH:

Representatives of the Summit League, a 10-team conference that stretches from Michigan to Utah and from Fargo to Tulsa, are scheduled to be on the University of Nebraska at Omaha campus Wednesday and Thursday.

UNO Athletic Director Trev Alberts said Tuesday that he assumes the league is considering several potential candidates for membership.

“One of those is UNO,” Alberts said. “And so they'd like to come, as part of their vetting process, and take a look at our campus to see whether or not they'd be interested in extending an invitation.”
...
Membership in the league could one day put UNO in the thick of March Madness. The winner of the Summit League basketball tournament receives an automatic NCAA tournament bid. On Tuesday, Oakland (Mich.) defeated Oral Roberts 90-76 to lock up the berth.
...
The two Division II UNO sports that aren't part of the Summit League lineup are football and wrestling.

League members North Dakota State, South Dakota State and Western Illinois play Division I FCS football (formerly known as I-AA) as members of the Missouri Valley Conference, while South Dakota and Southern Utah are members of FCS' Great West Conference. South Dakota joins the Missouri Valley for football in 2012.
...
“We've not done any of that work because we've not had an invitation to the Summit League,” Alberts said. “An opportunity arose for us to consider them and them to consider us. What's under consideration is the Summit League. If they extend an invitation, at that point it's our job to see if it makes sense for our campus, and ultimately, our students.”
User avatar
Coyote
City Council
Posts: 34365
Joined: Tue Nov 18, 2003 5:18 pm
Yahoo Messenger: jestcoyote
Location: Aksarben Village

UNO Maverick Athletics

Post by Coyote »

Linkin5 wrote:Division two is dying UNO needs to jump the ship and soon, I am pleased with how progressive Alberts has been.
Omaha World Herald wrote:Another former rival, South Dakota, joins the league next year, replacing Centenary (La.), which is downgrading to Division III.
Not downgrading to Division II but III.

Are there stadium capacity requirements for FCS football teams?
User avatar
iamjacobm
City Council
Posts: 10834
Joined: Sat Apr 10, 2010 11:52 am
Location: Chicago

UNO Maverick Athletics

Post by iamjacobm »

I know the FCS doesn't have attendance requirement's and I would assume Caniglia is big enough.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NC ... l_stadiums

A lot of those schools have under 10,000 seat stadiums, some as low as 3,000.
User avatar
Coyote
City Council
Posts: 34365
Joined: Tue Nov 18, 2003 5:18 pm
Yahoo Messenger: jestcoyote
Location: Aksarben Village

UNO Maverick Athletics

Post by Coyote »

Nice to see a former NCC team Northern Colorado make it to the dance after moving up to DI only 4 years ago.
User avatar
iamjacobm
City Council
Posts: 10834
Joined: Sat Apr 10, 2010 11:52 am
Location: Chicago

UNO Maverick Athletics

Post by iamjacobm »

Coyote wrote:Nice to see a former NCC team Northern Colorado make it to the dance after moving up to DI only 4 years ago.
In 2009 North Dakota made it to the dance in their very 1st year in D1. Any one want to make a bet that UNO makes it in before Nebraska or Creighton? Only half joking. :lol:
ShawJ
Parks & Recreation
Posts: 1573
Joined: Wed Jan 31, 2007 11:58 pm

UNO Maverick Athletics

Post by ShawJ »

OWH reporting that UNO will move to division 1 and drop football and wrestling.

http://omaha.com/article/20110313/NEWS0 ... -wrestling

UNO will move to Division I, drop football and wrestling
By Henry J. Cordes / World-Herald staff writer

The University of Nebraska at Omaha appears bound for Division I in athletics, and the chance to compete at the highest level of college sports may well come at the expense of its tradition-rich football and wrestling programs.

UNO Chancellor John Christensen and Athletic Director Trev Alberts said Saturday they are recommending to the NU Board of Regents that UNO join the Summit League, a 10-team conference that competes at the NCAA Division I level. League officials on Friday extended an official invitation, UNO's ticket to Division I.
User avatar
Big E
City Council
Posts: 8181
Joined: Thu Jan 27, 2005 5:12 pm

UNO Maverick Athletics

Post by Big E »

I'm calling it right now:

New Coke.

Any wagers backed up with cash money will be matched.
Bob from Omaha
Planning Board
Posts: 3079
Joined: Wed Sep 08, 2004 8:00 pm
Location: Metro Detroit Michigan

UNO Maverick Athletics

Post by Bob from Omaha »

Big E wrote:I'm calling it right now:

New Coke.

Any wagers backed up with cash money will be matched.
$100 and a years supply of runzas for the winner. Loser gets a 2 year supply of runzas.

You're on Big E
User avatar
Coyote
City Council
Posts: 34365
Joined: Tue Nov 18, 2003 5:18 pm
Yahoo Messenger: jestcoyote
Location: Aksarben Village

UNO Maverick Athletics

Post by Coyote »

Wow! At first I thought this was an April Fools joke.
Isn't the wrestling team a DII top rated team?
User avatar
Linkin5
County Board
Posts: 4919
Joined: Wed Feb 11, 2004 1:59 am

UNO Maverick Athletics

Post by Linkin5 »

What the heck? This is disappointing.
User avatar
skinzfan23
City Council
Posts: 11683
Joined: Mon Feb 09, 2004 5:26 pm
Location: Omaha/Bellevue

UNO Maverick Athletics

Post by skinzfan23 »

Not that this is a huge deciding factor, but what about the new video boards that UNO just got for both the fieldhouse and Caniglia Field. What is going to happen to those facilities as a result? Any ideas?
User avatar
Brad
Photographer
Posts: 1036716
Joined: Sun Feb 29, 2004 12:03 am
Location: Omaha, NE

UNO Maverick Athletics

Post by Brad »

Weird.... Really Really weird. This is Nebraska. People LOVE football!! I don't care for wrestling, but UNO did win a lot of Wrestling.
User avatar
iamjacobm
City Council
Posts: 10834
Joined: Sat Apr 10, 2010 11:52 am
Location: Chicago

UNO Maverick Athletics

Post by iamjacobm »

The won their 3rd straight D II wrestling title last night and today those guys find out the are being dropped? Rough rough news. I get football being dropped that was losing a lot of money, but wrestling could have competed with some of the best in the country.

And yeah just made huge upgrades to the stadium and now what? This is pretty crazy.
User avatar
Big E
City Council
Posts: 8181
Joined: Thu Jan 27, 2005 5:12 pm

UNO Maverick Athletics

Post by Big E »

Bob from Omaha wrote:
Big E wrote:I'm calling it right now:

New Coke.

Any wagers backed up with cash money will be matched.
$100 and a years supply of runzas for the winner. Loser gets a 2 year supply of runzas.

You're on Big E
Pinky shake.

If the UFL can fill Rosenblatt on Fridays and Saturdays - dispelling the myth you can't compete with UNL or local high school - UNO could do the same at TD Ameritrade.

Schedule a paycheck game in Lincoln every year instead of sending the money to the likes of UT Chattanooga, Maine, Nicholls State, Western Illinois, and McNeese State and you'll cover the increase in scholarships... plus the money stays in state, in the system, and generates a crapload of sales tax revenue during an in state event.

I'm beginning to think absolutely no one in this state is remotely willing to think outside the box, let alone swing for the fence once in awhile.
User avatar
iamjacobm
City Council
Posts: 10834
Joined: Sat Apr 10, 2010 11:52 am
Location: Chicago

UNO Maverick Athletics

Post by iamjacobm »

By the sounds of this press conference it sounds like Caniglia wont exist in 2020. They talked about moving the new scoreboard south of Center. "South of Center" should be the mavs new slogan they have said it at least 10 times.
User avatar
Big E
City Council
Posts: 8181
Joined: Thu Jan 27, 2005 5:12 pm

UNO Maverick Athletics

Post by Big E »

Interesting take from the wrestling community (which I am most definitely not a part of). If you're not a Trev Alberts fan, read it, because it paints him as a complete d-bag.

http://www.themat.com/section.php?secti ... leID=23332
KEARNEY, Neb. – It was late Saturday night and it was celebration time for the Nebraska-Omaha Mavericks.

Top-ranked UNO had overcome its share of adversity, including the loss of a returning national champion and All-American, to win its third straight NCAA Division II championship in wrestling.

The Mavericks edged a strong St. Cloud State squad for the team title on Saturday night at the University of Nebraska at Kearney.

Hall of Fame Coach Mike Denney’s decorated UNO program had won its sixth national title in the last eight years, and the seventh in Denney’s tenure in Omaha.

The entire Maverick team – starters, backups, redshirts, coaches and trainers – posed excitedly for the championship team photo. The wrestlers held up three fingers for the three straight titles the team has won.

Just a few hours after the team’s post-tournament celebration at the Country Inn and Suites in Kearney, my cell phone rang in my hotel room at 1:24 a.m.

UNO assistant coach Ron Higdon delivered the stunning news to me. Nebraska-Omaha was going to drop its wrestling program.

UNO reportedly is trying to join the Summit League in Division I. The Summit League does not offer football and wrestling, so the plan is to drop both those sports at Nebraska-Omaha.

The decision to drop wrestling, made by UNO athletic director Trev Alberts and chancellor John Christensen, was not only heartless, gutless and unfathomable, but the timing couldn’t have been any worse. It was like someone ripping your heart out of your chest, tossing it on the ground and stomping on it.

At least have the decency to let the UNO wrestling team have a little bit of time to enjoy winning a national championship. Alberts broke the news to Denney by phone, during the team’s celebration at the hotel, instead of doing it in person. It couldn’t have waited until later, after the team arrived at home?

The lack of support from Christensen is a little baffling. He has a wrestling background. His son, Anders, is the head wrestling coach at Omaha North High School. John Christensen was in attendance in Las Vegas in 2007 to support UNO four-time national champion Les Sigman and three-time national Todd Meneely at the U.S. World Team Trials for freestyle wrestling.

How could Christensen not go to bat for the UNO wrestling program? It doesn’t make sense.

UNO would add men’s golf and soccer, since those sports are offered in the Summit League. Are you kidding me? At the expense of strong, well-established programs in football and wrestling? Wow.

South Dakota State and North Dakota State, which were previously in the North Central Conference with UNO, compete in the Summit League. Both schools also compete in other leagues in football and wrestling, since that conference doesn’t offer those sports.

Football is another high-profile sport at UNO and a large contribution was just made to the school for a new scoreboard. It is crazy to think that Alberts, a star football player who was a college football analyst on ESPN, is going to get rid of the Maverick football program as well.

I covered the UNO wrestling team for six years as a sportswriter for the Omaha World-Herald newspaper from 2000 to 2006, and I have continued to cover them with my job as communications manager at USA Wrestling.

I haven’t, in my life, dealt with a better coach and person than Mike Denney. He’s a total, 100 percent class act all the way who cares about every kid on his team from the national champions to the incoming freshmen. He is a man of high integrity and principles. His coaching contemporaries hold him in very high regard.

Coach Denney said he spoke with Alberts late Saturday night about the decision to drop the program. Denney said Alberts told him the decision wasn’t even about money. Denney raises almost all of the money for his own program’s expenses with all his tournaments, camps and fundraisers.

Alberts said the decision was because the Summit League did not offer wrestling.


Denney is one of the most respected coaches, in any sport, in the country. He handles himself in a dignified manner and has coached more than 40 Academic All-Americans. Wrestling is by far the most successful program in that school’s history.

The early season Kaufman-Brand Open is the biggest college wrestling tournament in the country, with top programs like Iowa, Oklahoma State and Minnesota competing every November at UNO.

Alberts is a guy who has done virtually nothing to support wrestling.

Shortly after Alberts arrived on campus, Denney said Alberts asked him if wrestling was a “club sport” at UNO. Talk about a slap in the face to Denney, who puts in countless hours during and outside the season to keep his program thriving.

Last year, Denney had set up a USA Wrestling press conference prior to the U.S. World Team Trials. The tournament was in nearby Council Bluffs, Iowa. Denney agreed to hold a press conference for Sigman in the Maverick wrestling room. When Alberts heard about it, he ordered Denney not to hold it there.

Sigman ended up making the U.S. team and wrestled at the 2010 World Championships in Russia. He is a top contender to make the U.S. Olympic Team next year, but Alberts wouldn't allow a press conference for him on the UNO campus.

Alberts also told Denney following its 2010 national championship season that the team couldn’t hold a banquet. Denney annually holds a season-ending banquet that honors the team. He also uses the banquet as a place to bring in recruits to see what the program is all about. Denney, determined to honor the championship team, held the banquet anyway.


What Alberts is doing is despicable and disgusting.

A teary-eyed Denney tried to make sense of it all, barely speaking above a whisper around 2:30 in the morning as a downcast group of wrestlers, coaches and parents sat in the hotel lobby.

I sat straight across from UNO’s Mario Morgan, a senior from Chicago who had just capped a fabulous career by winning the 141-pound national title on Saturday night.

I interviewed Mario after he won his title. He was being recruited by a number of Division I schools coming out of high school, but when he met Denney he was sold on UNO. He said he made the perfect decision to wrestle collegiately at the Division II level in Omaha.

The program Morgan had poured five years of his life into may now be gone. Morgan sat at a table early Sunday morning, shaking his head in disbelief and trying to make sense of all that had just transpired.

Denney is a guy who should have been able to go out on his own terms. He’s built a program that is recognized as one of the best in college wrestling at any level.

He’s been an institution at UNO for the past 32 years.

I’ve never met a better man in my life than Mike Denney. He’s the best coach I’ve dealt with in my 22 years as a professional in the communications business. He treats everyone with respect.

It is heart-wrenching to see this happen when it didn’t even have to.

It is really sad to see a guy like Alberts, who has very little experience as an administrator, make such an unnecessary decision.

It’s sickening, it really is.

This may not be over yet. The UNO wrestling program plans to fight for what they’ve worked so hard to build.

UNO wrestling backers are planning to be at Sapp Fieldhouse at 5 p.m. Sunday to rally and support a cause to help save the wrestling program.

It would be a shame if we never see the black and red Maverick singlets on the mat again in college wrestling.

They’ve provided so many great moments over the years and provided so many great opportunities for so many young men.

It’s a shame that arrogant, egotistical, clueless administrators chose to make such a cold-hearted decision. An absolute shame.
HskrFanMike
Parks & Recreation
Posts: 1322
Joined: Tue Jun 21, 2005 5:40 pm

UNO Maverick Athletics

Post by HskrFanMike »

Big E wrote:
Bob from Omaha wrote:
Big E wrote:I'm calling it right now:

New Coke.

Any wagers backed up with cash money will be matched.
$100 and a years supply of runzas for the winner. Loser gets a 2 year supply of runzas.

You're on Big E
Pinky shake.

If the UFL can fill Rosenblatt on Fridays and Saturdays - dispelling the myth you can't compete with UNL or local high school - UNO could do the same at TD Ameritrade.

Schedule a paycheck game in Lincoln every year instead of sending the money to the likes of UT Chattanooga, Maine, Nicholls State, Western Illinois, and McNeese State and you'll cover the increase in scholarships... plus the money stays in state, in the system, and generates a crapload of sales tax revenue during an in state event.

I'm beginning to think absolutely no one in this state is remotely willing to think outside the box, let alone swing for the fence once in awhile.
They played on a Thursday, 2 Fridays, and a Saturday on Nebraska's bye week. I don't know you can fit a 6 or 7 game home schedule weeknights.

As for the paycheck game, I believe UNO would have to add 30 scholarships. Average cost to attend UNO for a year is $18k. That's $540K. Money games pay $500k currently. Plus, there's the little issue that UNO loses over $1 million a year on football.
User avatar
nebugeater
City Council
Posts: 111074
Joined: Wed Aug 04, 2004 11:07 pm
Location: Gretna NE

UNO Maverick Athletics

Post by nebugeater »

HskrFanMike wrote:
Big E wrote:
Bob from Omaha wrote:
Big E wrote:I'm calling it right now:

New Coke.

Any wagers backed up with cash money will be matched.
$100 and a years supply of runzas for the winner. Loser gets a 2 year supply of runzas.

You're on Big E
Pinky shake.

If the UFL can fill Rosenblatt on Fridays and Saturdays - dispelling the myth you can't compete with UNL or local high school - UNO could do the same at TD Ameritrade.

Schedule a paycheck game in Lincoln every year instead of sending the money to the likes of UT Chattanooga, Maine, Nicholls State, Western Illinois, and McNeese State and you'll cover the increase in scholarships... plus the money stays in state, in the system, and generates a crapload of sales tax revenue during an in state event.

I'm beginning to think absolutely no one in this state is remotely willing to think outside the box, let alone swing for the fence once in awhile.
They played on a Thursday, 2 Fridays, and a Saturday on Nebraska's bye week. I don't know you can fit a 6 or 7 game home schedule weeknights.

As for the paycheck game, I believe UNO would have to add 30 scholarships. Average cost to attend UNO for a year is $18k. That's $540K. Money games pay $500k currently. Plus, there's the little issue that UNO loses over $1 million a year on football.

The Huskers paid $800,000 for Idaho to come to Lincoln last year and it was reported that a future game with Boise State didn't happen because of the $1,0000,000 price tag. Granted Boise St is not UNO but UNO could be at the Idaho level. Don't remember what the payout was to South Dakota State last year but betting it was at least 500K.
For the record  NEBUGEATER does not equal BUGEATER    !!!!!!!
Mr.Nuke
Parks & Recreation
Posts: 1231
Joined: Wed May 09, 2007 3:12 am
Location: Omaha

UNO Maverick Athletics

Post by Mr.Nuke »

nebugeater wrote:
HskrFanMike wrote:
Big E wrote:
Bob from Omaha wrote:
Big E wrote:I'm calling it right now:

New Coke.

Any wagers backed up with cash money will be matched.
$100 and a years supply of runzas for the winner. Loser gets a 2 year supply of runzas.

You're on Big E
Pinky shake.

If the UFL can fill Rosenblatt on Fridays and Saturdays - dispelling the myth you can't compete with UNL or local high school - UNO could do the same at TD Ameritrade.

Schedule a paycheck game in Lincoln every year instead of sending the money to the likes of UT Chattanooga, Maine, Nicholls State, Western Illinois, and McNeese State and you'll cover the increase in scholarships... plus the money stays in state, in the system, and generates a crapload of sales tax revenue during an in state event.

I'm beginning to think absolutely no one in this state is remotely willing to think outside the box, let alone swing for the fence once in awhile.
They played on a Thursday, 2 Fridays, and a Saturday on Nebraska's bye week. I don't know you can fit a 6 or 7 game home schedule weeknights.

As for the paycheck game, I believe UNO would have to add 30 scholarships. Average cost to attend UNO for a year is $18k. That's $540K. Money games pay $500k currently. Plus, there's the little issue that UNO loses over $1 million a year on football.

The Huskers paid $800,000 for Idaho to come to Lincoln last year and it was reported that a future game with Boise State didn't happen because of the $1,0000,000 price tag. Granted Boise St is not UNO but UNO could be at the Idaho level. Don't remember what the payout was to South Dakota State last year but betting it was at least 500K.
Idaho is in a completely separate division of football, it Boise, Nebraska are all FBS (formally referred to as I-A) schools. If Nebraska "had" to over pay and payout $800,000 you are essentially asking the Lincoln AD to subsidize the UNO athletic department. Typical FCS (formerly I-AA) payouts are about $400 to 500k. So moving up and getting the paycheck game essentially covers the added football scholarships. The problem is you have to add an equivalent number of women's sports scholarships as well and pay for those. That likely means adding two women's sports, coaches and travel expenses for said women's sports, etc. You are also going to have to pump in more money to the football program to be competitive on a higher level It is a losing financial proposition.
joeglow
Planning Board
Posts: 2645
Joined: Thu Apr 14, 2005 12:04 am

UNO Maverick Athletics

Post by joeglow »

Mr.Nuke wrote:Idaho is in a completely separate division of football, it Boise, Nebraska are all FBS (formally referred to as I-A) schools. If Nebraska "had" to over pay and payout $800,000 you are essentially asking the Lincoln AD to subsidize the UNO athletic department. Typical FCS (formerly I-AA) payouts are about $400 to 500k. So moving up and getting the paycheck game essentially covers the added football scholarships. The problem is you have to add an equivalent number of women's sports scholarships as well and pay for those. That likely means adding two women's sports, coaches and travel expenses for said women's sports, etc. You are also going to have to pump in more money to the football program to be competitive on a higher level It is a losing financial proposition.
THAT is the key. Why else would Nebraska have women's bowling and rifle? Title IX has screwed a lot of schools.
Mr.Nuke
Parks & Recreation
Posts: 1231
Joined: Wed May 09, 2007 3:12 am
Location: Omaha

UNO Maverick Athletics

Post by Mr.Nuke »

joeglow wrote:
Mr.Nuke wrote:Idaho is in a completely separate division of football, it Boise, Nebraska are all FBS (formally referred to as I-A) schools. If Nebraska "had" to over pay and payout $800,000 you are essentially asking the Lincoln AD to subsidize the UNO athletic department. Typical FCS (formerly I-AA) payouts are about $400 to 500k. So moving up and getting the paycheck game essentially covers the added football scholarships. The problem is you have to add an equivalent number of women's sports scholarships as well and pay for those. That likely means adding two women's sports, coaches and travel expenses for said women's sports, etc. You are also going to have to pump in more money to the football program to be competitive on a higher level It is a losing financial proposition.
THAT is the key. Why else would Nebraska have women's bowling and rifle? Title IX has screwed a lot of schools.
Yep. It is somewhat manageable at a school like Nebraska where the football team can fund everything including bowling and competitive rifle shooting and still have money left over to send back to the University. However, for a school like UNO or 90% of the institutions out there tough choices like what Trev made had to be made.
lnkS
Home Owners Association
Posts: 71
Joined: Thu Dec 13, 2007 10:45 pm

UNO Maverick Athletics

Post by lnkS »

joeglow wrote:
Mr.Nuke wrote:Idaho is in a completely separate division of football, it Boise, Nebraska are all FBS (formally referred to as I-A) schools. If Nebraska "had" to over pay and payout $800,000 you are essentially asking the Lincoln AD to subsidize the UNO athletic department. Typical FCS (formerly I-AA) payouts are about $400 to 500k. So moving up and getting the paycheck game essentially covers the added football scholarships. The problem is you have to add an equivalent number of women's sports scholarships as well and pay for those. That likely means adding two women's sports, coaches and travel expenses for said women's sports, etc. You are also going to have to pump in more money to the football program to be competitive on a higher level It is a losing financial proposition.
THAT is the key. Why else would Nebraska have women's bowling and rifle? Title IX has screwed a lot of schools.
Well, and the fact that football at UNO was costing the school over $1million per year, which I'm sure had more to do with the decision to drop the program. Title IX most certainly wouldn't have helped UNO try to keep their football program but I think that the lack of financial viability for football at small schools probably had more to do with it in this instance.
User avatar
Uffda
County Board
Posts: 4625
Joined: Mon Jun 13, 2005 2:52 am
Location: Land o Lakes, FL

UNO Maverick Athletics

Post by Uffda »

All I can say is Trev Albert handle this poorly in the announcement based on what I just heard the Wrestling coach say about his phone with Albert. At a time when the AD should be calling to congratulate the team and the coach - he calls to say we are canceling your program..... hmmm couldn't wait to talk face to face?

Also feel sorry for all the FB players especially the ones who committed to UNO this year. Might be a little too late to get scholarships from other colleges -- UNO did say they would honor scholarships but is that going to include incoming freshman?
joeglow
Planning Board
Posts: 2645
Joined: Thu Apr 14, 2005 12:04 am

UNO Maverick Athletics

Post by joeglow »

lnkS wrote:Well, and the fact that football at UNO was costing the school over $1million per year, which I'm sure had more to do with the decision to drop the program. Title IX most certainly wouldn't have helped UNO try to keep their football program but I think that the lack of financial viability for football at small schools probably had more to do with it in this instance.
Most schools (even those as small as UNO in the D1 world) make money off of football (mainly from getting the sh*t beat of them from the bigger schools). It is the cost of 70 additional female athletes over multiple teams (5-6) and the costs of multiple coaches that kills them.
User avatar
Big E
City Council
Posts: 8181
Joined: Thu Jan 27, 2005 5:12 pm

UNO Maverick Athletics

Post by Big E »

joeglow wrote:
Mr.Nuke wrote:Idaho is in a completely separate division of football, it Boise, Nebraska are all FBS (formally referred to as I-A) schools. If Nebraska "had" to over pay and payout $800,000 you are essentially asking the Lincoln AD to subsidize the UNO athletic department. Typical FCS (formerly I-AA) payouts are about $400 to 500k. So moving up and getting the paycheck game essentially covers the added football scholarships. The problem is you have to add an equivalent number of women's sports scholarships as well and pay for those. That likely means adding two women's sports, coaches and travel expenses for said women's sports, etc. You are also going to have to pump in more money to the football program to be competitive on a higher level It is a losing financial proposition.
THAT is the key. Why else would Nebraska have women's bowling and rifle? Title IX has screwed a lot of schools.
The problem is you have donors willing to support the program and they spend $1 million on a |expletive| scoreboard. A one million dollar donation should be an endowment at a program like that.

There are literally hundreds of programs across the country with a smaller alumni base, smaller markets, and less interest playing under the exact same set of rules that manage to make this work. If you can build a hockey program from scratch in a decade, you can make 1-AA work after a hundred |expletive| years.

Honestly, this looks to me a lot like the Royals not playing downtown: "Well, here's this great opportunity to really make a go of it, but we're going to tuck our sack back and put a little rouge on because no one has ever showed us the spreadsheet formula to make it work."

Go make it work. Also accept the fact that D1-AA UNO football at Caniglia is an entirely different beast than D2 UNO football at TD Amertirade.

Serving beer.

I absolutely refuse to accept that the Omaha market could not nor would not support this program at the 1-AA level.
Last edited by Big E on Mon Mar 14, 2011 3:58 am, edited 2 times in total.