New waterpark and hotel in CB?

Big E · Post by **Big E** » Thu May 05, 2005 7:03 pm

http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_pg=1458&u_sid=1403916

icejammer · Post by **icejammer** » Thu May 05, 2005 8:58 pm

This is already a pretty much done deal - infrastructure work has been progressing on-site for a couple weeks already. This is just getting all the "frilly" stuff approved.

A previous discussion:
Water Park Approval

papiostud · Post by **papiostud** » Fri May 06, 2005 12:22 am

I wonder if condos/apartments could fit into this area in the future?? Esp since One Renaissance didn't make it.

DTO Luv · Post by **DTO Luv** » Fri May 06, 2005 1:16 am

Condos by truck stops?

the1wags · Post by **the1wags** » Fri May 06, 2005 2:22 am

Yeah I dont see condos around there for a long while if ever. Im all for the developments there but the routes from both exits to the MAC look like absolute trash IMO. CB really needs to start thinking about a plan for this and for West Broadway, these areas are gateways to the city and need help. But yeah the area is really going to take off now with the new stuff going up.

CountOfMC · Post by **CountOfMC** » Fri May 06, 2005 2:29 am

Im all for the developments there but the routes from both exits to the MAC look like absolute trash IMO.

Amen. The area really needs to fill in too.. it's all scattered right now, but it's coming along. What is that white elephant to the south of Ameristar.. it needs to be blown up.

eomaha · Post by **eomaha** » Fri May 06, 2005 2:33 am

It's great to see this area finally taking off. They definitely need to put do some sprucing up of the 24th Street corridor. Hopefully the forthcoming interstate projects will address some of this.

As for condos... I suspect there will be something eventually re-emerge up in the pedestrian bridge vicinitiy again.

As for down south... CB needs to make it part of their long range plan to relocate the light/agricultural industry in the area.

Ingersoll1978 · Post by **Ingersoll1978** » Fri May 06, 2005 6:07 am

The Iowa DOT is already started the process for a complete rebuild of I-80/I-29 in the coming years.

MTO · Post by **MTO** » Fri May 06, 2005 6:10 am

So when will we start seeing cone-zones over there?

Ingersoll1978 · Post by **Ingersoll1978** » Fri May 06, 2005 6:13 am

LOL... They've just started the planning stage and getting public input from residents. It'll be a few years yet I'm sure. I wouldn't doubt though to see the interchange near this development rebuilt within the next two years though.

DTO Luv · Post by **DTO Luv** » Fri May 06, 2005 6:19 am

I thought they already said they weren't going to start on that for another 7 years? They had a public forum and I think Icejammer went and that's what they said would happen.

Ingersoll1978 · Post by **Ingersoll1978** » Fri May 06, 2005 8:02 am

I said it would be a few years. They are just starting the planning stage. They have to do environmental studies, design, and everything else that would go into a major overhaul. It probably will be 7 years. One thing great though is Iowa's commitment recently to enhancing bridges and landscaping. When it's all over, it'll look really good. I'm excited to see what they will do there.

Blazepaw · Post by **Blazepaw** » Fri May 06, 2005 12:50 pm

If a condo project does go through I would think it would be a little farther south on Lake Manawa.

The country club on the lake is closing and it's not far to the new riverfront project on the other side of the bridge in Belleview.

icejammer · Post by **icejammer** » Fri May 06, 2005 1:13 pm

the1wags wrote:CB really needs to start thinking about a plan for this and for West Broadway, these areas are gateways to the city and need help.

CB already has plans for West Broadway, but it will take a number of years to complete, given all the individual businesses that will be impacted at some point. They also have plans for N. 16th St and East Kanesville improvements as you come into the city, but again, it all takes time. I agree with you though, this area really needs some work (as does the South Expressway) - I think the city is waiting on all the I-80/29 rebuild and how that will affect S. 24th St, so as to better leverage the city's investment.

DTO Luv wrote:I thought they already said they weren't going to start on that for another 7 years? They had a public forum and I think Icejammer went and that's what they said would happen.

Yeah, I was at the forum they had in Feb., and it will be at least 5 years before there's any chance of construction, IIRC. In the interim, they will at least be doing some more repavement, which is still sorely needed in places. I also expect the City to do some "cosmetic" work in the area, but I think major changes are several years off, unless somebody puts a burr under someone's saddle.

jhuston wrote:As for down south... CB needs to make it part of their long range plan to relocate the light/agricultural industry in the area.

Some of that may take care of itself. For instance, the "elephant" to the south of Ameristar won't be there long, if certain groups get their way and eliminate barge traffic on the Missouri. Some of the light industry along 23rd Ave and S. 35 St. though, isn't going to go anywhere for a long time. The city needs to address some zoning issues in this area, IMO, to make these areas less conspicuous, which would go a long ways in improving the area. The one that really needs to be relocated though, IMO, is the Tyson Foods plant (formerly IBP), across from the Horseshoe Casino (well, it will be the Horseshoe in a few more months).

StreetsOfOmaha · Post by **StreetsOfOmaha** » Fri May 06, 2005 5:09 pm

I'm disaointed that it's only 6 stories. They could have tapped into an awesome view of downtown Omaha if they built a little taller. It's a great announcement nonetheless, though!!

Post by **Brad** » Sun May 08, 2005 7:23 pm

I'm disaointed that it's only 6 stories

can you have a cool waterslide in only six stories?

If CB keeps growing like it does in the MAC area, they will have the money sooner than later to update the interstate in that area.

eomaha · Post by **eomaha** » Sun May 08, 2005 9:01 pm

6 stories is plenty tall for a cool water slide... and the IDOT planning for interstate renovation in the area is well underway.

Finn · Post by **Finn** » Sun May 08, 2005 11:35 pm

Planning is underway for the interstate but you won't see anything until 2009 or 2010.

eomaha · Post by **eomaha** » Mon May 09, 2005 3:34 am

Yeah, hopefully the 480/North Freeway exchange mess will be clear by then.

icejammer · Post by **icejammer** » Mon May 09, 2005 3:31 pm

Another story on the up and coming water park:

Park to make a splash in Bluffs

eomaha · Post by **eomaha** » Tue May 10, 2005 4:41 am

This is going to be a great addition for Council Bluffs and the entire metro.

jammer... have you been by the Plaza... is there any activity as far as other tenants going in alongside Famous Daves? I suppose many prospective tenants will want to open about the time Bass Pro Shops is opening up.

icejammer · Post by **icejammer** » Tue May 10, 2005 1:13 pm

As far as other tenants, the only other one there now is a chiropractor. I think you're right in that we're not likely to see much tenant activity for a few more months, until we start pushing up against the Bass Pro opening. I would look for activity on the out lots first though. I have a feeling something will be announced in several more weeks - can't say what for sure though, just a hunch.

Here's the latest layout:

Post by **Brad** » Tue May 10, 2005 8:55 pm

I know sometimes I skim more than I read, but I don't remember seeing that Bass Pro was going to have a lake. Are you going to be able to fish it, or is it for fishing classes, or is it just for looks.

icejammer · Post by **icejammer** » Thu May 12, 2005 1:08 pm

Well, an interesting twist in the waterpark saga has reared it's ugly head, and some folk are understandably upset....

Water park vote to go before C.B. council

papiostud · Post by **papiostud** » Thu May 12, 2005 4:06 pm

That's lame. So really we still won't have a waterpark. Might as well go to KC still.

MTO · Post by **MTO** » Thu May 12, 2005 4:18 pm

Thats some bullshit!

almighty_tuna · Post by **almighty_tuna** » Thu May 12, 2005 4:22 pm

Hopefully they'll find out sooner or later that they will make more $$ if they allow the locals. Of course I can also appreciate their point of view. If locals/non-guests are using the park they have the often difficult task of preventing non-guests from using hotel facilities designated for guests only.

icejammer · Post by **icejammer** » Thu May 12, 2005 4:25 pm

papiostud wrote:That's lame. So really we still won't have a waterpark. Might as well go to KC still.

I wouldn't fire up the car down I-29 just yet. The city council still has the opportunity to put in some requirements on the developer to open it up a little bit more to the public, which I think has a pretty good shot at happening, without causing the developer to withdraw.

TitosBuritoBarn · Post by **TitosBuritoBarn** » Fri May 13, 2005 1:38 am

Yea! C'mon! Hotel party, buddy! Wooo! A day of hot swimming action and then a night of....whatever it is you crazy cats want to do!

Blazepaw · Post by **Blazepaw** » Sat May 14, 2005 9:22 pm

If you read the artical The indoor part of the park is only going to hold 800 people. This was never planed on the scale of the ealier project.

eomaha · Post by **eomaha** » Sat May 14, 2005 10:03 pm

We'll take it!

icejammer · Post by **icejammer** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 5:07 pm

Well, it sounds like the Mayor and (maybe) City Council have been "behind-the-scenes" pushing the developer to open the water park up to the public a little more, although it is pushing things back. Keep your fingers crossed....

Delayed but not dropped

icejammer · Post by **icejammer** » Thu Aug 18, 2005 3:18 pm

Delay No More, All Systems Go

adam186 · Post by **adam186** » Fri Aug 19, 2005 4:37 am

Awesomeness