Sunset Valley Golf Club - Sold

[iamjacobm]

I am familiar with the sunset hills neighborhood. Its one of Omaha’s best classic 1950’s suburban neighborhoods. I don’t see this project helping it and the increase in traffic is a real concern. It’s to bad the country club was sold. It was a small 9 hole course, but mainly served as a calming buffer to the neighborhood that is surrounded by busy streets. In what is now near the center of Omaha.

With the new development being built on what is a flood plain I’m not sure who would really want to live there. It would be much better if the land was left undeveloped for the good of the neighborhood and Omaha. As these all to infrequent Park like green spaces Become a enclave from the daily congestion and bustle. And improve Omaha’s Overall livability.

I’ve lived in the general area of Sunset Hills virtually my entire life. This development won’t have a large impact on the neighborhood, IMO. Most of the new residents will use 90th Street to access the rest of the city. But I agree that preserving as much green space as possible is a good thing. I’m forever amazed that the NW corner of 90th and West Center continues to sit empty. The land must be worth a fortune. Sticking up a few mid rise (5-10 story) condo or apartment buildings would appear to me to be a ticket to financial wealth for a developer. And maybe a small retail area.

It has been owned by an apartment developer for over a decade.

[ScrattyB]

Would be a great spot for a mini golf business.

[nativeomahan]

Would be a great spot for a mini golf business.

Hahahahahaha!

[nativeomahan]

I am familiar with the sunset hills neighborhood. Its one of Omaha’s best classic 1950’s suburban neighborhoods. I don’t see this project helping it and the increase in traffic is a real concern. It’s to bad the country club was sold. It was a small 9 hole course, but mainly served as a calming buffer to the neighborhood that is surrounded by busy streets. In what is now near the center of Omaha.

With the new development being built on what is a flood plain I’m not sure who would really want to live there. It would be much better if the land was left undeveloped for the good of the neighborhood and Omaha. As these all to infrequent Park like green spaces Become a enclave from the daily congestion and bustle. And improve Omaha’s Overall livability.

I’ve lived in the general area of Sunset Hills virtually my entire life. This development won’t have a large impact on the neighborhood, IMO. Most of the new residents will use 90th Street to access the rest of the city. But I agree that preserving as much green space as possible is a good thing. I’m forever amazed that the NW corner of 90th and West Center continues to sit empty. The land must be worth a fortune. Sticking up a few mid rise (5-10 story) condo or apartment buildings would appear to me to be a ticket to financial wealth for a developer. And maybe a small retail area.

It has been owned by an apartment developer for over a decade.

Why the heck is he sitting on it then? At the very least he could have grazed cattle or sheep on it. That’s what they do while waiting to develop urban property elsewhere. Rather than just having to mow it once a month.

[iamjacobm]

It is owned by Omaha based Richdale Apartments. It looks like they are actively building in other markets, but by quick glance as far as I can tell they haven't added to their Omaha portfolio since the late 90s just going by their website.

EDIT: I spent like less than 10 mins so I could have missed something, not claiming this as gospel.

[iamjacobm]

Site Plan for the development is at the link. 37 single family lots and 210 multi-family units.

https://cityclerk.cityofomaha.org/image ... 41818a.pdf

[Cermak]

It’s to bad that golf course had to close I liked that better. The new apartments won’t do much for the neighborhood and will probably make it worse. What a shame.

[ScrattyB]

The new apartments won’t do much for the neighborhood and will probably make it worse. What a shame.

Why would the new apartments make the neighborhood worse?

[bigredmed1]

The new apartments won’t do much for the neighborhood and will probably make it worse. What a shame.

Why would the new apartments make the neighborhood worse?

1. Apartment block instead of green space as a view out the back deck of the houses in the neighborhood.
2. Apartment block that is in the flood plain of the Big Papio creek (and not just in the proximity of the stream, but IN the flood plain) What kind of building will get built there? The one that can get flooded without a big loss to the developer. What kind of people rent there? The kind that are not exactly moving up in life. You know not section 7 or section 9, but the one inbetween these.

Want to trade a beautiful view from your deck for a |expletive| shack apartment block? I would imagine that just the apartments take $10,000 apiece off the value of the homes on the west side of the neighborhood. Add in more traffic and you take $5000 off the price. Should the prospect of a lot of section 8 renters come to pass, you are looking at another $10,000 off the price of homes. Now going with the fact that these houses are in 66 and are probably a bit inflated price wise, if you are a long term owner and have had the house for 15 or more years, you won't feel it. If you are a new owner, you probably will note a little drop in saleability.

[TitosBuritoBarn]

The new apartments won’t do much for the neighborhood and will probably make it worse. What a shame.

Why would the new apartments make the neighborhood worse?

1. Apartment block instead of green space as a view out the back deck of the houses in the neighborhood.
2. Apartment block that is in the flood plain of the Big Papio creek (and not just in the proximity of the stream, but IN the flood plain) What kind of building will get built there? The one that can get flooded without a big loss to the developer. What kind of people rent there? The kind that are not exactly moving up in life. You know not section 7 or section 9, but the one inbetween these.

Want to trade a beautiful view from your deck for a |expletive| shack apartment block? I would imagine that just the apartments take $10,000 apiece off the value of the homes on the west side of the neighborhood. Add in more traffic and you take $5000 off the price. Should the prospect of a lot of section 8 renters come to pass, you are looking at another $10,000 off the price of homes. Now going with the fact that these houses are in 66 and are probably a bit inflated price wise, if you are a long term owner and have had the house for 15 or more years, you won't feel it. If you are a new owner, you probably will note a little drop in saleability.

The existing homes will have an immediate view of the back of other single-family homes that will be built, not apartments. Since the golf course wasn't profitable and has closed, the owners, being free American capitalists, have the right to sell the property and acquire value from their asset. Single family homes are about the best the adjacent property owners can expect for the golf course property to be converted into. The current plans include a landscape buffer to maintain a portion of greenspace behind the current homes. (did you look at the plan?)

Constructing an apartment building that gets flooded constantly is not in any developer's best interest. If they manage the building themselves, the constant losses in revenue would not produce a rate of return that would be attractive to them or any skillful investor in the property. if they intend to sell the property immediately, any buyer worth their salt will have done their due-diligence on flooding potential and value the building accordingly, which would again not provide a rate of return worth the developer's time. New construction ain't cheap. Upscale development is often more profitable than downscale. So even if you are looking to build a development knowing it'll flood constantly, you want upscale renters, not low or moderate income ones.

This all ignores the fact that the city doesn't just approve buildings for the floodplain willy-nilly. At a time when there are government efforts to purchase properties that exist in a floodplain to relieve the owners of increasingly prevalent flood losses, why would they approve new buildings that they would potentially need to condemn and buy out in a few years? City ordinances don't allow for flood-prone development.

The traffic increase will be negligible.

There's no evidence to suggest that the majority of the renters will be Section 8.

[Cermak]

I’m fine with the single family homes as long as they are fairly expensive at least 350k. It’s the apartments I don’t like. I haven’t seen anything on how expensive the homes will be or what the apartments will rent for, the lots look kinda small.

[GrandpaaSmucker]

The new apartments won’t do much for the neighborhood and will probably make it worse. What a shame.

Why would the new apartments make the neighborhood worse?

1. Apartment block instead of green space as a view out the back deck of the houses in the neighborhood.
2. Apartment block that is in the flood plain of the Big Papio creek (and not just in the proximity of the stream, but IN the flood plain) What kind of building will get built there? The one that can get flooded without a big loss to the developer. What kind of people rent there? The kind that are not exactly moving up in life. You know not section 7 or section 9, but the one inbetween these.

Want to trade a beautiful view from your deck for a |expletive| shack apartment block? I would imagine that just the apartments take $10,000 apiece off the value of the homes on the west side of the neighborhood. Add in more traffic and you take $5000 off the price. Should the prospect of a lot of section 8 renters come to pass, you are looking at another $10,000 off the price of homes. Now going with the fact that these houses are in 66 and are probably a bit inflated price wise, if you are a long term owner and have had the house for 15 or more years, you won't feel it. If you are a new owner, you probably will note a little drop in saleability.

They tend to frown on the ugly truth around this forum. Took just over an hour for your post to draw one of the politically correct crazies. Sometimes posts like this that are too honest get deleted!

[TitosBuritoBarn]

The new apartments won’t do much for the neighborhood and will probably make it worse. What a shame.

Why would the new apartments make the neighborhood worse?

1. Apartment block instead of green space as a view out the back deck of the houses in the neighborhood.
2. Apartment block that is in the flood plain of the Big Papio creek (and not just in the proximity of the stream, but IN the flood plain) What kind of building will get built there? The one that can get flooded without a big loss to the developer. What kind of people rent there? The kind that are not exactly moving up in life. You know not section 7 or section 9, but the one inbetween these.

Want to trade a beautiful view from your deck for a |expletive| shack apartment block? I would imagine that just the apartments take $10,000 apiece off the value of the homes on the west side of the neighborhood. Add in more traffic and you take $5000 off the price. Should the prospect of a lot of section 8 renters come to pass, you are looking at another $10,000 off the price of homes. Now going with the fact that these houses are in 66 and are probably a bit inflated price wise, if you are a long term owner and have had the house for 15 or more years, you won't feel it. If you are a new owner, you probably will note a little drop in saleability.

They tend to frown on the ugly truth around this forum. Took just over an hour for your post to draw one of the politically correct crazies. Sometimes posts like this that are too honest get deleted!

I mean knowing these things is only what I do for a job...

[bigredmed1]

Tito, I really hope you are correct. I just doubt that your take holds for more than a few years if you are. Too many apartments get built and then just seem to slide. The traffic is almost always underestimated as engineers see X number of routes and assume that traffic egress will be Y number of cars divided by X number of routes. What seems to happen is that 2 or 3 egress routes are secondary and are rarely used, thus dumping more cars on the existing egress routes.

[nativeomahan]

I live in this general neighborhood (less than one mile away). To my knowledge the golf course has never flooded since the Papio dams were built, what, 35-40 years ago. My guess is that any new construction would be elevated above what flood plain exists where the old golf course is. Perhaps the lower level will be parking only.
I am happy that much of the existing property will not be built on. My confusion is focused on rather why no development is taking place east of the golf course, closer to 90th and West Center. That huge space has been vacant for years.

[Ben]

My confusion is focused on rather why no development is taking place east of the golf course, closer to 90th and West Center. That huge space has been vacant for years.

Different owner. The NW corner of 90th and Center is owned by Slosburg, the same folks that did the strip mall development across the street. Seeing as how that has never fully filled up, I'm guessing Slosburg will sit on the other parcel until demand dictates development, or someone comes along with a sweet offer on the property (although its not actively on the market).

[nativeomahan]

I am rather thinking that the owners of the northwest corner are idiots. This empty parcel is near the population center point of the metro area. Medium density housing with a mix use of retail would seem to be a no brainer. And whoever owns the old Shopko site nearby could also make a handsome profit by developing that land into a mixed use development. The neighborhood is a sleeper, IMO.

[Brad]

City Council approves apartments, houses on former Sunset Valley golf course property

https://www.omaha.com/money/city-counci ... 92e5f.html

Developer NP Dodge will build up to 210 apartment units and up to 37 single-family houses on the land it bought from the former Sunset Valley golf club near 90th Street and West Center Road.

The City Council approved the south-central Omaha development’s final plat 7-0 after a public hearing Tuesday dominated by nearly two hours of neighborhood testimony against the project.

[Cermak]

Very unfortunate, but that was a small country club. Stuff like this can happen when the owners decide to sell. Let’s just hope it isn’t to disruptive to the neighborhood. It will be interesting to see what this looks like once completed.

[daveoma]

I was always under the impression that the members/owners of country clubs live around it. Apparently that's not the case here. I'm a little bummed that this wasn't given to the city to be made into a large park. Wouldn't it be great to have a city park the size of Elmwood Park in West Omaha next to a popular trail? Well, I hope they keep as much green space as possible.

[RockHarbor]

I have to say, that is one area of Omaha where I don't feel the area's name really took off and was established as a designated area of the city -- like Eagle Run or Regency or even Maplewood Village. Even though there is a "Sunset Valley" golf club and a "Sunset Valley" church in that area, I don't recall anybody EVER saying "It is in the Sunset Valley area of Omaha..." in all my years growing up.

[Brad]

Even though there is a "Sunset Valley" golf club and a "Sunset Valley" church in that area, I don't recall anybody EVER saying "It is in the Sunset Valley area of Omaha..." in all my years growing up.

That's because we call it "Sunset Hills"...

[RockHarbor]

Even though there is a "Sunset Valley" golf club and a "Sunset Valley" church in that area, I don't recall anybody EVER saying "It is in the Sunset Valley area of Omaha..." in all my years growing up.

That's because we call it "Sunset Hills"...

Gotcha. Even "Sunset Hills" isnt quite a recognizable name to many for a particular vicinity of Omaha. I had never heard that in all my years growing up in Omaha. It seems possibly like a name that maybe was meant to define an area, especially with a golf course in the mix, but never quite took off. On the hand, Im not sure the first insert of "Eagle Run" in NW Omaha was ever planned to define an area. It maybe just happened. "Miracle Hills" defines a vicinity of Omaha. "Greyhawk" was used a lot just west of Eagle Run, but again, people dont usually use that to define an area of Omaha. Course, there is no "Greyhawk Golf Course" in Omaha. (I do like the ring of "Greyhawk" or "Grey Hawk" because Ive seen that used in suburban Indianapolis. It has a neat ring to it. I like anything ".... Hawk." Even an eagle is technically a hawk. So, "Eagle Run" is not far off of a name like "Greyhawk.")

[ScrattyB]

And just a few hundred feet to the east, new condos were built that the neighborhood mostly opposed when proposed but now

everyone is happy how they turned out.

[GetUrban]

Even though there is a "Sunset Valley" golf club and a "Sunset Valley" church in that area, I don't recall anybody EVER saying "It is in the Sunset Valley area of Omaha..." in all my years growing up.

That's because we call it "Sunset Hills"...

Because the sun doesn't set anywhere else.

[bigredmed1]

Even though there is a "Sunset Valley" golf club and a "Sunset Valley" church in that area, I don't recall anybody EVER saying "It is in the Sunset Valley area of Omaha..." in all my years growing up.

That's because we call it "Sunset Hills"...

Gotcha. Even "Sunset Hills" isnt quite a recognizable name to many for a particular vicinity of Omaha. I had never heard that in all my years growing up in Omaha. It seems possibly like a name that maybe was meant to define an area, especially with a golf course in the mix, but never quite took off. On the hand, Im not sure the first insert of "Eagle Run" in NW Omaha was ever planned to define an area. It maybe just happened. "Miracle Hills" defines a vicinity of Omaha. "Greyhawk" was used a lot just west of Eagle Run, but again, people dont usually use that to define an area of Omaha. Course, there is no "Greyhawk Golf Course" in Omaha. (I do like the ring of "Greyhawk" or "Grey Hawk" because Ive seen that used in suburban Indianapolis. It has a neat ring to it. I like anything ".... Hawk." Even an eagle is technically a hawk. So, "Eagle Run" is not far off of a name like "Greyhawk.")

Not really a surprise. Some neighborhoods are more famous than others. Millard used to have Signal Hills, The Oaks, Oak Hills, and Signal Hill Heights. All of these are now just called "Old East Millard", while what this board calls the "Lumberyard District" is really called "Old Millard" and the area west was called "Inglewood" and is now called "Old West Millard". Lots of areas in the city had names that nobody uses any more. Burke's area is another good example, ever heard of "Heavenly Acres"?

[RockHarbor]

Even though there is a "Sunset Valley" golf club and a "Sunset Valley" church in that area, I don't recall anybody EVER saying "It is in the Sunset Valley area of Omaha..." in all my years growing up.

That's because we call it "Sunset Hills"...

Gotcha. Even "Sunset Hills" isnt quite a recognizable name to many for a particular vicinity of Omaha. I had never heard that in all my years growing up in Omaha. It seems possibly like a name that maybe was meant to define an area, especially with a golf course in the mix, but never quite took off. On the hand, Im not sure the first insert of "Eagle Run" in NW Omaha was ever planned to define an area. It maybe just happened. "Miracle Hills" defines a vicinity of Omaha. "Greyhawk" was used a lot just west of Eagle Run, but again, people dont usually use that to define an area of Omaha. Course, there is no "Greyhawk Golf Course" in Omaha. (I do like the ring of "Greyhawk" or "Grey Hawk" because Ive seen that used in suburban Indianapolis. It has a neat ring to it. I like anything ".... Hawk." Even an eagle is technically a hawk. So, "Eagle Run" is not far off of a name like "Greyhawk.")

Not really a surprise. Some neighborhoods are more famous than others. Millard used to have Signal Hills, The Oaks, Oak Hills, and Signal Hill Heights. All of these are now just called "Old East Millard", while what this board calls the "Lumberyard District" is really called "Old Millard" and the area west was called "Inglewood" and is now called "Old West Millard". Lots of areas in the city had names that nobody uses any more. Burke's area is another good example, ever heard of "Heavenly Acres"?

Well, kinda...and kinda not. I would say these are defining areas of Omaha STILL used in conversation:

The Harvey Oaks area
The Stonybrook area
The Eagle Run area
The Westwood area
The Old Mill area
The Miracle Hills area (or maybe even the Candlewood area)
The Regency area
The Happy Hollow area
The Benson area
The Dundee area
The North Omaha area
The South Omaha area
The Boys Town area
The UNO area
The Midtown area
The Downtown area
The Lake Cunningham area
The Tara Hills area (maybe...maybe not)
The Ralston area
The Walnut Grove area (maybe...maybe not)
The Ponca Hills area
The Applewood area
The Westgate area (maybe...maybe not)
The Tiburon area (maybe...maybe not)
The Ridges area (maybe...maybe not)

The area's name is usually used in sentences like "It's over by Old Mill." Or: "They've bought a house out there in the Eagle Run area." Or, realtors might use the name in the sales caption on a particular house. ("Great Buy In The Stonybrook Area.")

It always feels like I'm missing one. Some areas, like the stretch of vicinity from 108th & West Center Road to 90th and Center surprisingly doesn't have a defining name, and most have never even heard the names of neighborhoods along there. They don't really have signage -- that's why. That "Loveland" name is starting to be used around there more, I notice, though.

Usually, a golf course helps a specific vicinity in town gain that extra attention to make that area more significant, but not always -- as with Harvey Oaks and Stonybrook. (They are both very large neighborhoods, though, and were very popular to build in when they were first plotted.) Also, just because a golf course is there doesn't mean the area will gain that significance, and it will catch on. For example, I don't hear "The Indian Creek area" used to define that area by Elkhorn. It is too close to the original core of the original small town. People just say "Elkhorn." And, just because a consistent naming theme exists within a square mile or two, like in that "Greyhawk" area, doesn't mean the area's name will gain that significance in Omaha. For example, several neighborhoods around 132nd to 144th and Blondo are named "Linden something", but people don't usually say "The Linden Estates area" or "The Linden Park area." Probably because Eagle Run and Boys Town nearby overrides it.

And, yep, I have heard of Heavenly Acres. And, I don't think people say "The Burke area" because it is close enough to Old Mill & Miracle Hills & Candlewood maybe. Yet, I've heard "It's over by Burke." It's definitely a defining landmark in town. But, a landmark is one thing -- a significant area/vicinity is another.

[Louie]

Many people would call that area on Center St a part of District 66

[nativeomahan]

I grew up in Sunset Hills, and am very familiar with the name. The sunset Hills neighborhood is generally bounded by 90th Street on the east, the Big Papio Creek on the Southwest, Pacific St. on the north and Arbor Street to the south. It is smack dab in the middle of the city, though when it was platted and developed in the 1950s it was partially outside the west city limits.

[zippy]

It always feels like I'm missing one. Some areas, like the stretch of vicinity from 108th & West Center Road to 90th and Center surprisingly doesn't have a defining name, and most have never even heard the names of neighborhoods along there. They don't really have signage -- that's why. That "Loveland" name is starting to be used around there more, I notice, though.

That area on West Center is called Rockbrook. Loveland is near 84th and Pacific.

[Brad]

Lol... Starting to be used??? That "Loveland Name" has been around since OCTOBER 1922 when the first part of the Loveland Neighborhood was platted! And Loveland Elementary opened in 1932. Everyone that lives in this area calls it Loveland and has for a long time.

The area from 90th & Center to around 105th or so is the Oakdale Neighborhood
The area from around 105th & Center to I680 is the Rocrbrook Neighborhood
The area from I680 to 120th Is Prairie Lane.

[RockHarbor]

Ok, I had no idea "Loveland" was the actual name of that vicinity of 90th & Center, tieing way back to 1922. I always wondered where they got the name for that beautiful strip center now there. How cool is that? In all my years in Omaha, I never knew that.

Yes, awhile after my last post, I kept being bugged about seemingly missing an entry, and it hit me that I could have put "The Rockbrook area" on that list. Then, for the first time ever, it hit me how close that name is to "Stonybrook." Out in Millard, there's also the "Rockcreek" subdivision. Is there a "Stonycreek" or "Stonecreek" around? (I think there is at 156th & Fort, if I remember right.) "Rockbrook" makes people think of 108th & Center, or the I-680 and Center area -- of course. Im not sure when you're at 100th & Center, you're thinking "Rockbrook", though.

Yes, once Bing released their maps, which even surprisngly shows names of subdivisions, I was able to see the names of neighborhoods in Omaha that dont have signage -- like that "Oakdale" mentioned around 100th & Center. But, I doubt most people know that's the neighborhoods name, thus nobody says "The Oakdale Area." Now, that reminds me: People do say "The Oak Hills area" for a particular vicinity of Millard. Again, the golf course helps that area out to be more elevated above others.

I just dont feel "Sunset Valley" or "Sunset Hills" is widely known in Omaha. I never heard it growing up, and I didnt know about it until recent years.

I cant remember if this is an actuality or not, or just my own memory playing tricks on me, but wasnt Champions Club originally named "Eagle Run West?" I think originally, the signature name "Eagle Run" stretched from around 125th & Maple out to 144th & Maple. Plus, theres the large shopping center with Bakers using that signature name, too -- and the shopping plaza diagonally across 132nd. No wonder "Eagle Run" rightfully defines a general area of new town in that long stretch between Omaha and Elkhorn.

[Cermak]

Rockbrook neighborhood is around 108th and Center. Oakdale neighborhood is just east of Rockbrook . Loveland is just east of Westside high school around 84th and Pacific. Sunset hills is just west of Westside high school southwest of 90th and Pacific. All of these neighborhoods are well known to most who live in District 66.

[RockHarbor]

Im talking about general areas of Omaha that basically everybody in the metro recognizes, thus it can easily be used in conversation throughout the metro.

"The party is out west. They live out near 96th & Q. You know, in the Applewood area."

"I heard they've pretty much passed up houses in the Dundee area, mainly because of her. She is more into the Regency area, because she went to Westside. You know, Frank. He'll do anything for her."

Nobody says: "Let's try that restaurant over in the Loveland area. Its by that Hy-Vee kinda..."

I doubt hardly anybody that far outside of the Loveland area even knows that 90th & Center area has that name. Yet, what adult doesnt recognize the name of Regency or Eagle Run in the Omaha metro? Probably hardly any.

Loveland Center (or whatever that beautiful brick shopping strip is named): I should have known that name tied to the vicinity, because it isnt a usual, trendy, yuppy name they would use on a new strip center -- like "Pepperwood Village" or something. I always thought something was odd about that choice, but now it makes perfect sense. I always wondered about that. Yet, it was a lovely, fanciful, brick strip center with a lovely, delightful name -- so I didnt question it too much. I always thought "Loveland, CO" when I saw it -- which also kind of bugged me. Now, it doesnt got me buggin', though.

[Taco]

Using vernacular to refer to the neighborhoods you grew up in is very regional, even within a city. I have said many times before "Oh it's over by Loveland" or "He's from Sunset" or "She lives in Rockbrook" because I grew up in district 66. I am familiar with the midtown neighborhood names, including less common ones like Metcalfe Park or Bemis park because I live there now. Conversely, I've never heard of Applewood and can barely recognize any neighborhood west of 680 or south of I80. I think you may be assuming everyone else in Omaha is frequents the areas you grew up in and basing your idea of what's common based on your isolated experiences.

[Cermak]

Most people not from dist 66 won’t be familiar with the different neighborhood names. Especially since they really don’t have any signage. But many newer west Omaha developments do have some sort of sign near the neighborhoods entrance. The dist 66 names primarily come from the different elementary schools in each neighborhood.

[RockHarbor]

Sure, I hear your point. As a kid in Millard, I'm also used to "He lives over in Stonybrook...", or "Her parents just built a new home in Millard Oaks...", or "They live in Bay Shores...", or "They live over in Mission Hills..." A lot of the city doesnt recognize that kind of breakdown of the Millard area that locals all know. But, notice Im pulling very few of those neighborhoods? Im pulling Stonybrook, Harvey Oaks, Oak Hills, and Applewood. Because their significance seems beyond being just a mere subdivision with a sign. They represent more of an area.

Oak Hills & Applewood are definitely that way because of the golf course that has been there since the 1970's at least. In the Applewood area, there is definitely an "Apple" theme used in naming several developments around 96th to 108th & Q.

Why Stonybrook & Harvey Oaks? There is no golf course there. Stonybrook is a large subdivision that was kind of a "star subdivision" in the 70's and 80's, has two major subdivisions baring that signature name, and has a main parkway baring that name that conveniently connects 144th & 156th. There's a decent-sized apartment complex baring that name, too, I think. Thats probably why. People even call the new HyVee the "Stonybrook HyVee." Its not officially called that.

Harvey Oaks is a little weaker example, I think, but yet, if there's anything that defines that 144th/156th and West Center area of town, it is Harvey Oaks. Its a large subdivision that was popular in the day. It has a shopping plaza baring that name, and a church, and I think a professional plaza. The name of "Oak View Mall" probably was inspired by the "Oaks" in "Harvey Oaks" as well, as well as the "Crescent Oaks" subdivision that came after Harvey Oaks. There is an "Oak" theme in that vicinity.

Outside of District 66, most Omahans, I would say, dont know anything outside of "Regency" and "Westside" and "District 66." I never knew Rockbrook was part of that district. As Cermak reminded, those neighborhoods have no signage whatsoever -- except Regency. If there's no sign there, and nobody you know lives in there, you easily drive by that neighborhood your whole life and never know what it is called. In fact, I always thought they didnt really have names.

[labguy]

Has anyone heard anything about this project moving forward? NP Dodge hasn't sold the property, so I guess they still have plans.

[Brad]

Has anyone heard anything about this project moving forward? NP Dodge hasn't sold the property, so I guess they still have plans.

Someone called in and asked about his on Grow Omaha a while ago. I can't remember the exact answer, but it sounded like it on hold or not moving forward as proposed? Don't quote me on that. That said its never been through planning yet.

[Ben]

The question about the NW Corner of 90th and Center on this week's Grow Omaha call in show got me thinking about the Sunset Valley project.... Got to wonder if one inactivity is related to the other.

I'd always thought it would be smart to develop the entrance to the golf course proposed development through the 90th and Center corner lot, to avoid travelling thru the neighborhood. This was a big hang up for many of us that lived there in Sunset that didn't want construction traffic coming through with the inevitable loads of dirt that would be necessary for flood mitigation...