Old Union Pacific Headquarters Lot

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Wed Jul 03, 2019 4:29 pm

MadMartin8 wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2019 8:50 am
Admin wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2019 2:14 am Rock Harbour has been officially granted a 7 day hiatus, to calm his |expletive| down.
Thank you.

Getting back to the topic at hand before it was hijacked; I am excited to see there being legs to this rumor, and really do agree that it's more exciting that a potentially new to the area place is going to fill half of a 600k sq ft tower. Here's to hoping it happens!

Right..

What was missed, in the posting diatribe yesterday, was the actual important tidbit- that there’s a possibly an outside company is very interested in occupying at least 50% of the space in what we think will be the phase one 30 story tower. If this becomes true, that’s absolutely HUGE news which indicates this proposal may actually get off the ground...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

Linkin5 · Post by **Linkin5** » Wed Jul 03, 2019 4:42 pm

iamjacobm wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2019 3:20 am A 600K square foot tower in DTO with a $200 Million investment with some credible members suggesting smoke for a tenant is good news incase anyone else missed the important part here.

Word. Would like to see the tower a little bit slimmer than the initial rendering but this is exciting news.

As always I will not fully buy into any project until I see steel rising so to not get Townsend’d, 2005 me will never forget.

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Wed Jul 03, 2019 4:42 pm

To piggyback off my last post..

If we want to go with this rumor, it begs the question of who it might be..

Any guesses?...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

Doctor Fate · Post by **Doctor Fate** » Wed Jul 03, 2019 5:07 pm

Omaha Cowboy wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2019 4:42 pm To piggyback off my last post..

If we want to go with this rumor, it begs the question of who it might be..

Any guesses?...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

Might be a dumb question, but how would one even begin figuring out who might be options here? Word of mouth? Or is there another forum?

Louie · Post by **Louie** » Wed Jul 03, 2019 5:55 pm

Had a blast reading this thread over lunch, but glad its back on track. Hopefully the rumor has legs.

GrandpaaSmucker · Post by **GrandpaaSmucker** » Wed Jul 03, 2019 7:45 pm

Louie wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2019 5:55 pm Had a blast reading this thread over lunch, but glad its back on track. Hopefully the rumor has legs.

You have a better chance of seeing a UFO then a 30 story building being built down town.

Bob from Omaha · Post by **Bob from Omaha** » Wed Jul 03, 2019 7:58 pm

GrandpaaSmucker wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2019 7:45 pm
Louie wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2019 5:55 pm Had a blast reading this thread over lunch, but glad its back on track. Hopefully the rumor has legs.
You have a better chance of seeing a UFO then a 30 story building being built down town.

Let's start with the fact that it isn't "then", it's "than". Sorry. Central High grad.

As to a 30 story building being built downtown, stranger things have happened. As to seeing a UFO, the odds are amazingly long.

GetUrban · Post by **GetUrban** » Wed Jul 03, 2019 8:58 pm

Louie wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2019 5:55 pm Had a blast reading this thread over lunch, but glad its back on track. Hopefully the rumor has legs.

Maybe posts should be limited to 280 characters / 5 posts a day.

I don't mind if the topics are allowed to take a few related detours and get into discussion of the factors that affect the process of development or even very specific critiques of a building design, but when posts turn into personal attacks and defenses, that gets old real fast.

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Wed Jul 03, 2019 9:54 pm

CyborgKen wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2019 5:07 pm
Omaha Cowboy wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2019 4:42 pm To piggyback off my last post..

If we want to go with this rumor, it begs the question of who it might be..

Any guesses?...

Ciao..LiO...Peace
Might be a dumb question, but how would one even begin figuring out who might be options here? Word of mouth? Or is there another forum?

Don’t think it’s dumb at all..

But based on the latest piece of intel (a well founded rumor), what kind of out of town company can this highrise development attract? One guess, since Omaha is being marketed as the “Silicon Praire”, is perhaps a new to market tech firm would find a brand new, urban highrise development a very hip, attractive spot for an office dwelling and it’s employees..

That’s a start. Anyone else care to speculate?

...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

Doctor Fate · Post by **Doctor Fate** » Wed Jul 03, 2019 9:57 pm

Omaha Cowboy wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2019 9:54 pm
CyborgKen wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2019 5:07 pm
Omaha Cowboy wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2019 4:42 pm To piggyback off my last post..

If we want to go with this rumor, it begs the question of who it might be..

Any guesses?...

Ciao..LiO...Peace
Might be a dumb question, but how would one even begin figuring out who might be options here? Word of mouth? Or is there another forum?
Don’t think it’s dumb at all..

But based on the latest piece of intel (a well founded rumor), what kind of out of town company can this highrise development attract? One guess, since Omaha is being marketed as the “Silicon Praire”, is perhaps a new to market tech firm would find a brand new, urban highrise development a very hip, attractive spot for an office dwelling and it’s employees..

That’s a start. Anyone else care to speculate? ...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

I was also going to speculate that it was an new to market tech firm.

And I agree that if it was a local company, First Data would make the most sense. Maybe Fiserv would consolidate an office from a nearby market too.

MadMartin8 · Post by **MadMartin8** » Wed Jul 03, 2019 10:03 pm

Omaha Cowboy wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2019 4:42 pm To piggyback off my last post..

If we want to go with this rumor, it begs the question of who it might be..

Any guesses?...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

A wild guess would either be insurance, banking, or other financial. No names jump out though. Can't think of any larger tech firms that may come into play..

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Wed Jul 03, 2019 10:11 pm

Martin and Ken-

Good speculation. I’d say I completely agree. It would have to be a serious commitment for an outside firm to invest in 50% of the available space in a large, 30 story office tower.. That’s for sure...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

Doctor Fate · Post by **Doctor Fate** » Wed Jul 03, 2019 10:20 pm

MadMartin8 wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2019 10:03 pm
Omaha Cowboy wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2019 4:42 pm To piggyback off my last post..

If we want to go with this rumor, it begs the question of who it might be..

Any guesses?...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

A wild guess would either be insurance, banking, or other financial. No names jump out though. Can't think of any larger tech firms that may come into play..

Maybe another large insurance company is considering moving their domicile here like Pac Life and MetLife did?

As far as financial institutions, is Goldman Sachs looking to open another office? The Lanoha building has many of the similar amenities and a similar set up and feel as the one they moved to in Salt Lake City, 111 Main.

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Wed Jul 03, 2019 10:27 pm

CyborgKen wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2019 10:20 pm
MadMartin8 wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2019 10:03 pm
Omaha Cowboy wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2019 4:42 pm To piggyback off my last post..

If we want to go with this rumor, it begs the question of who it might be..

Any guesses?...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

A wild guess would either be insurance, banking, or other financial. No names jump out though. Can't think of any larger tech firms that may come into play..
Maybe another large insurance company is considering moving their domicile here like Pac Life and MetLife did?

As far as financial institutions, is Goldman Sachs looking to open another office? The Lanoha building has many of the similar amenities and a similar set up and feel as the one they moved to in Salt Lake City, 111 Main.

Goldman Sachs is a good guess..

One thing that’s also working in Omaha’s favor today, as opposed to 20, even 10 years ago- is air transportation access. Omaha now flies to 34 non stop destinations including Canada. Just 10 years ago, that non stop number was 19-20.. Omaha being centrally located, with a convenient airport just minutes from downtown, with many more non-stop options- can be very attractive for an outside firm to take a long, hard look at downtown Omaha and potentially make a serious commitment...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Thu Jul 04, 2019 8:02 pm

An interesting read from a pretty recent article (May 23rd) in Omaha Magazine regarding the Lanoha skyscraper proposal-

“The empty lot at 1416 Dodge St. is seen as a field of dreams for many companies, but getting steel and glass to rise there is not a case of build it and they will come.

Rather, the approach is they will come, and we will build it.

Everything is in place for a building to rise at the former site of Union Pacific headquarters: a cutting-edge design, tax incentives, support from the city, attractions from the nearby Capitol District, and a strong economy.

Before any building starts, however, tenants must be signed, and the developers are especially anxious to sign an anchor company that wants high-rise headquarters alongside downtown Omaha’s other corporate digs.

That is why, when asked to speculate when the first spade of dirt might be turned at one of the city’s most prime pieces of real estate, developer Jason Lanoha was clear and to the point:

“As soon as we secure the necessary tenants,” said the president of Lanoha Real Estate Co., which purchased the property in 2014. “I will tell you we have real progress happening.”

In early 2019 came a new vision, a $200 million high-rise with a concept borrowed from another market that would be unique to Omaha—an “offset core” structure. Elevators and other building-related space (i.e., storage, HVAC, etc.) are at the building’s center; that structure is surrounded by two towers—one being 27 stories, the other 30.“

The complete story link:

https://omahamagazine.com/articles/buil ... -dodge-st/

Ciao..LiO...Peace

ita · Post by **ita** » Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:03 pm

There is an article about this project in this month's Midland Business Journal. Nothing really substantive as to an update, except that they are trying to secure commitments from possible tenants. Additionally, some number stood out to me: it will have 600k+ square feet of space, about the same as the first phase in the Conagra project but 2.5x the parking spaces at 1500! Earliest that construction would start is 2022. One interesting thing to note though, is among the amenities the building would provide, the article stated that there would be a grocer. No further specifications since they are still very early in the planning stages, but something for all you urban grocery store nuts to chew on.

Doctor Fate · Post by **Doctor Fate** » Tue Oct 15, 2019 8:46 pm

ita wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:03 pm There is an article about this project in this month's Midland Business Journal. Nothing really substantive as to an update, except that they are trying to secure commitments from possible tenants. Additionally, some number stood out to me: it will have 600k+ square feet of space, about the same as the first phase in the Conagra project but 2.5x the parking spaces at 1500! Earliest that construction would start is 2022. One interesting thing to note though, is among the amenities the building would provide, the article stated that there would be a grocer. No further specifications since they are still very early in the planning stages, but something for all you urban grocery store nuts to chew on.

I think this is good news! Sounds like they are committed to making this happen and that there is still good potential for this project to happen.

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:03 pm

Doctor Fate wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 8:46 pm
ita wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:03 pm There is an article about this project in this month's Midland Business Journal. Nothing really substantive as to an update, except that they are trying to secure commitments from possible tenants. Additionally, some number stood out to me: it will have 600k+ square feet of space, about the same as the first phase in the Conagra project but 2.5x the parking spaces at 1500! Earliest that construction would start is 2022. One interesting thing to note though, is among the amenities the building would provide, the article stated that there would be a grocer. No further specifications since they are still very early in the planning stages, but something for all you urban grocery store nuts to chew on.
I think this is good news! Sounds like they are committed to making this happen and that there is still good potential for this project to happen.

Agreed. Let’s keep our fingers crossed..

I’m especially interested in this grocery store component. Nice find ita

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Ciao..LiO...Peace

Cermak · Post by **Cermak** » Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:22 am

Still think this is a long shot. Not going to get real excited about it until trucks are on the ground moving dirt around.

ita · Post by **ita** » Wed Oct 16, 2019 3:10 pm

Cermak wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:22 am Still think this is a long shot. Not going to get real excited about it until trucks are on the ground moving dirt around.

I understand the sentiment. I am just glad to see they are still working on it.

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Wed Oct 16, 2019 4:47 pm

ita wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2019 3:10 pm
Cermak wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:22 am Still think this is a long shot. Not going to get real excited about it until trucks are on the ground moving dirt around.
I understand the sentiment. I am just glad to see they are still working on it.

Agreed..

And I don’t think any forum veterans here are getting overly excited with this proposal. Cautious optimism is more the vibe..We’ve been burned far too many times in the past..

As ita said, we can all be glad this is a proposal the developer seems to be working on..Which has several exciting movable components...

We’ll all keep our fingers crossed this high rise proposal becomes reality...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

ita · Post by **ita** » Tue Feb 04, 2020 9:12 pm

I drove past the site today. Still depressing, but did anyone else notice that they put two signs up advertising the site as a future HQ site? The signs have a different design again. Looks like a single tower over parking with a large angled cutout on one corner, ala the HDR HQ, though taken up much higher up the building. I couldn't get a pic because I was driving.

skinzfan23 · Post by **skinzfan23** » Tue Feb 04, 2020 9:48 pm

Is it this one?

They released that a while ago and that sign has been on the site for a long time.

ita · Post by **ita** » Tue Feb 04, 2020 9:52 pm

skinzfan23 wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2020 9:48 pm Is it this one?

They released that a while ago and that sign has been on the site for a long time.

No, the current signs at the site have a completely different design on them. Next time I am downtown, I will take a pic, unless someone beats me to it first.

ShawJ · Post by **ShawJ** » Tue Feb 04, 2020 10:31 pm

ita wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2020 9:12 pm I drove past the site today. Still depressing, but did anyone else notice that they put two signs up advertising the site as a future HQ site? The signs have a different design again. Looks like a single tower over parking with a large angled cutout on one corner, ala the HDR HQ, though taken up much higher up the building. I couldn't get a pic because I was driving.

Those signs showing the first rendering have been up for quite some time.

ita · Post by **ita** » Tue Feb 04, 2020 11:11 pm

ShawJ wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2020 10:31 pm
ita wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2020 9:12 pm I drove past the site today. Still depressing, but did anyone else notice that they put two signs up advertising the site as a future HQ site? The signs have a different design again. Looks like a single tower over parking with a large angled cutout on one corner, ala the HDR HQ, though taken up much higher up the building. I couldn't get a pic because I was driving.
Those signs showing the first rendering have been up for quite some time.

Ah I see, I went back to find the old renderings and it's the same one, though the sign's rendering seems to have a higher parking garage than the original rendering. In any case, it's inconsequential until they break ground and steel starts going up.

Omahacritic · Post by **Omahacritic** » Thu Feb 27, 2020 4:59 am

At night, the buffalo leave the First National and roam across 15th for a bit of grazing. Perhaps they dislodged the sign a bit.

Been seeing them Pioneer kids on occasion too.

strangerthings · Post by **strangerthings** » Fri Apr 17, 2020 4:33 am

ita wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2020 9:52 pm
skinzfan23 wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2020 9:48 pm Is it this one?

They released that a while ago and that sign has been on the site for a long time.
No, the current signs at the site have a completely different design on them. Next time I am downtown, I will take a pic, unless someone beats me to it first.

any updates on this project?

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Fri Apr 17, 2020 11:59 am

strangerthings wrote: Fri Apr 17, 2020 4:33 am any updates on this project?

Crickets on this one. Unfortunately...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

ita · Post by **ita** » Fri Apr 17, 2020 3:27 pm

Omaha Cowboy wrote: Fri Apr 17, 2020 11:59 am
strangerthings wrote: Fri Apr 17, 2020 4:33 am any updates on this project?
Crickets on this one. Unfortunately...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

Considering the current economic climate and a likely long road to recovery, I doubt the feasibility of this project, at least for another couple years. This lot must be cursed or something; Wallstreet Tower project is killed by the Great Recession and when the Lanoha Tower seemed to have some momentum, we have this current recession. I had excitement for this and the Civic Site, considering the Mayor's comments just a couple months ago, but now these long empty lots are likely to stay that way for a while longer.

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Fri Apr 17, 2020 4:22 pm

Yes, sadly, I agree. This was a 50/50 project imo before the Pandemic.. Now, I have very serious doubts we’ll ever see this proposal come to fruition...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

Doctor Fate · Post by **Doctor Fate** » Fri Apr 17, 2020 5:12 pm

Omaha Cowboy wrote: Fri Apr 17, 2020 4:22 pm Yes, sadly, I agree. This was a 50/50 project imo before the Pandemic.. Now, I have very serious doubts we’ll ever see this proposal come to fruition...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

I'm a pretty optimistic person and obviously have a great love for Omaha, but it is frustrating that several similar sized cities across the nation are getting multiple skyline changing buildings and Omaha can't muster up a single one.

Omahacritic · Post by **Omahacritic** » Fri Apr 17, 2020 6:35 pm

It’s because Omaha can’t seem to hang onto Corporate HQ of significance. FDR, Conagra, TD, and so on. There just isn’t any demand for a large office tower. Pretty good at building businesses, but lousy at keeping them.

Here’s a picture from last night. The empty lot is on the left.

Louie · Post by **Louie** » Fri Apr 17, 2020 7:11 pm

Omahacritic wrote: Fri Apr 17, 2020 6:35 pm It’s because Omaha can’t seem to hang onto Corporate HQ of significance. FDR, Conagra, TD, and so on. There just isn’t any demand for a large office tower. Pretty good at building businesses, but lousy at keeping them.

Here’s a picture from last night. The empty lot is on the left.

Where was this taken from?

skinzfan23 · Post by **skinzfan23** » Fri Apr 17, 2020 10:16 pm

Judging by the angle, the Capitol District Apts.

That is a nice photo by the way.

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Fri Apr 17, 2020 10:31 pm

I’d guess Capitol District Apartments too..

Nice pic critic

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Ciao..LiO...Peace

Cermak · Post by **Cermak** » Sat Apr 18, 2020 1:59 am

I think the safe route is to be all negative on this project and say it won’t get built, in the long run you will probably be right and can at least feel good about that. However I wish Omaha would look at building some medium size buildings downtown not just 25 or 30 story skyscrapers. Maybe a sharp looking 12 or 15 story building would look good on the grassy lot instead of building nothing.

Doctor Fate · Post by **Doctor Fate** » Sat Apr 18, 2020 2:45 am

Cermak wrote: Sat Apr 18, 2020 1:59 am I think the safe route is to be all negative on this project and say it won’t get built, in the long run you will probably be right and can at least feel good about that. However I wish Omaha would look at building some medium size buildings downtown not just 25 or 30 story skyscrapers. Maybe a sharp looking 12 or 15 story building would look good on the grassy lot instead of building nothing.

I agree. You could build two buildings on that site....just one at 12-15 stories would still change the skyline.

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strangerthings · Post by **strangerthings** » Wed May 27, 2020 3:46 pm

Doctor Fate wrote: Sat Apr 18, 2020 2:45 am
Cermak wrote: Sat Apr 18, 2020 1:59 am I think the safe route is to be all negative on this project and say it won’t get built, in the long run you will probably be right and can at least feel good about that. However I wish Omaha would look at building some medium size buildings downtown not just 25 or 30 story skyscrapers. Maybe a sharp looking 12 or 15 story building would look good on the grassy lot instead of building nothing.
I agree. You could build two buildings on that site....just one at 12-15 stories would still change the skyline.

Does Omaha have anything in the 10+ range proposed or in the works?