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Cermak wrote: Sat Sep 25, 2021 1:09 pm Right, a library you can drive right up to and have easy parking in a parking lot for free. Or the old Civic lot is another possibility and even North downtown.
So cater to cars and parking ? I thought the point was to make it more walkable.
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Cermak wrote: Sat Sep 25, 2021 1:09 pm Right, a library you can drive right up to and have easy parking in a parking lot for free. Or the old Civic lot is another possibility and even North downtown.

I like the old Civic lot idea. Puts it right next door to both Central and Creighton.
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There are multiple options for the library relocation downtown..

I think it’s a forgone conclusion at this point, the parcel which currently houses the W Dale Clark, is a target for significant redevelopment..we’ll definitely know more in the coming months..and I know we all can’t wait…

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ThatGuy wrote: Sat Sep 25, 2021 11:39 am Personally I'm 100% against tearing that building down and would do anything it took to make sure it didn't happen. I know there are plenty of people who could care less, but I think the library is cool as heck. https://stacker.com/stories/3102/50-arr ... ted-states
Whew, those are some fugly buildings. Tear 'em all down. Haha. Just kidding. Well, sort of. W Dale Clark, according to people I know who work there, is a dump. For starters it leaks via the roof and the foundation. Again according to librarian friends of mine. Regardless, in my opinion, it needs to go.
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guy4omaha wrote: Sun Sep 26, 2021 6:35 pm
ThatGuy wrote: Sat Sep 25, 2021 11:39 am Personally I'm 100% against tearing that building down and would do anything it took to make sure it didn't happen. I know there are plenty of people who could care less, but I think the library is cool as heck. https://stacker.com/stories/3102/50-arr ... ted-states
Whew, those are some fugly buildings. Tear 'em all down. Haha. Just kidding. Well, sort of. W Dale Clark, according to people I know who work there, is a dump. For starters it leaks via the roof and the foundation. Again according to librarian friends of mine. Regardless, in my opinion, it needs to go.
I agree with you guy..the W Dale Clark has simply ran out of function..the building was constructed in 1977..and just does not supply the needs of a good library circa 2021..

I understand people wanting to salvage it..but to what end? As I stated in an earlier post, I think it’s a forgone conclusion the building will be razed…

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Omaha Cowboy wrote: Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:57 pm
guy4omaha wrote: Sun Sep 26, 2021 6:35 pm
ThatGuy wrote: Sat Sep 25, 2021 11:39 am Personally I'm 100% against tearing that building down and would do anything it took to make sure it didn't happen. I know there are plenty of people who could care less, but I think the library is cool as heck. https://stacker.com/stories/3102/50-arr ... ted-states
Whew, those are some fugly buildings. Tear 'em all down. Haha. Just kidding. Well, sort of. W Dale Clark, according to people I know who work there, is a dump. For starters it leaks via the roof and the foundation. Again according to librarian friends of mine. Regardless, in my opinion, it needs to go.
I agree with you guy..the W Dale Clark has simply ran out of function..the building was constructed in 1977..and just does not supply the needs of a good library circa 2021..

I understand people wanting to salvage it..but to what end? As I stated in an earlier post, I think it’s a forgone conclusion the building will be razed…

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To what end? Omaha keeps tearing down it's history. We might have a handful of brutalist buildings, but to me this is one of the few Brutalist buildings that actually looks good.

I'd hate for it to be another Fontenelle Hotel, or Jobbers Canyon, just because we don't like the style right now. Especially when what I've seen so far sounds like a step backwards for the City.

If we can put a nice library downtown, and not at the river front, that's a small win. I'll hold off on my personal final verdict until all of the details are public (where I can assess them). But my bias is certainly against tearing down the library.
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Athomsfere wrote: Tue Sep 28, 2021 7:19 am To what end? Omaha keeps tearing down it's history.
Corruption. That one word is the ONLY true explanation for all the endless and senseless expensive destruction and rebuilding we see going on downtown. Corruption is on steroids downtown. Downtown is where the scammers and the politicians go to ream the big bucks out of the public.
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The meltdowns over a building almost the entire city regards as ugly and has been a safety issue for years is laughable. It was built in 1977 and has not played a significant role in the city beyond being a tiny note under the twins in pictures. We're getting the first possible highrise since I was a child and you're complaining about the concrete box being torn down? I'm all for saving history but there is no history you are saving by not allowing a highrise to be built. Stop getting in the way of progress just because Omaha has a history of tearing down actually important buildings to the city's history. I could never imagine dying on this hill for a building that has been as a complete failure to the city as the main library.
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ThatGuy wrote: Sat Sep 25, 2021 11:39 am Personally I'm 100% against tearing that building down and would do anything it took to make sure it didn't happen. I know there are plenty of people who could care less, but I think the library is cool as heck. https://stacker.com/stories/3102/50-arr ... ted-states
There's some cool ones in there, though I share no love for ours. Anyone else think from the sides it looks more like a prison with those narrow escape proof windows?

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I agree. If we were talking about something that had actual historical significance, I'd understand. But just because something is old doesn't mean something is valuable. There are quite a few locations that a modernized library would better service the public, like on the UP parcel. It's location near central/Joslyn would be a better fit than where it is. My wife works at CPP and the library really isn't a destination for those who wish to actually use it for its intended purpose.
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thenewguy wrote: Tue Sep 28, 2021 9:35 am I agree. If we were talking about something that had actual historical significance, I'd understand. But just because something is old doesn't mean something is valuable. There are quite a few locations that a modernized library would better service the public, like on the UP parcel. It's location near central/Joslyn would be a better fit than where it is. My wife works at CPP and the library really isn't a destination for those who wish to actually use it for its intended purpose.
Agreed..

And comparing the potential razing of W Dale Clark to Jobbers Canyon or the Fontenelle Hotel? C’mon.. not even remotely an apples to apples comparison.. I get why some are up in arms over razing buildings, I’m not a fan usually of it either.. But IMO this downtown library has lost function, is extremely high cost to retain..and in the end, I don’t find it a unique architectural gem that most would kick themselves over once it is razed…

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Omaha Cowboy wrote: Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:46 am
thenewguy wrote: Tue Sep 28, 2021 9:35 am I agree. If we were talking about something that had actual historical significance, I'd understand. But just because something is old doesn't mean something is valuable. There are quite a few locations that a modernized library would better service the public, like on the UP parcel. It's location near central/Joslyn would be a better fit than where it is. My wife works at CPP and the library really isn't a destination for those who wish to actually use it for its intended purpose.
Agreed..

And comparing the potential razing of W Dale Clark to Jobbers Canyon or the Fontenelle Hotel? C’mon.. not even remotely an apples to apples comparison.. I get why some are up in arms over razing buildings, I’m not a fan usually of it either.. But IMO this downtown library has lost function, is extremely high cost to retain..and in the end, I don’t find it a unique architectural gem that most would kick themselves over once it is razed…

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We were back in Omaha over the weekend for my mom's wedding. Went to the Old Market to eat at M's Pub (phenomenal) and my wife (she is from the DC area) was looking at buildings and commenting positively on the way there. When we passed the library, she said, "Ew!" and then was silent until we got to the Old Market. I think that sums up most people's views of the library.
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Doctor Fate wrote: Tue Sep 28, 2021 11:08 am
Omaha Cowboy wrote: Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:46 am
thenewguy wrote: Tue Sep 28, 2021 9:35 am I agree. If we were talking about something that had actual historical significance, I'd understand. But just because something is old doesn't mean something is valuable. There are quite a few locations that a modernized library would better service the public, like on the UP parcel. It's location near central/Joslyn would be a better fit than where it is. My wife works at CPP and the library really isn't a destination for those who wish to actually use it for its intended purpose.
Agreed..

And comparing the potential razing of W Dale Clark to Jobbers Canyon or the Fontenelle Hotel? C’mon.. not even remotely an apples to apples comparison.. I get why some are up in arms over razing buildings, I’m not a fan usually of it either.. But IMO this downtown library has lost function, is extremely high cost to retain..and in the end, I don’t find it a unique architectural gem that most would kick themselves over once it is razed…

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We were back in Omaha over the weekend for my mom's wedding. Went to the Old Market to eat at M's Pub (phenomenal) and my wife (she is from the DC area) was looking at buildings and commenting positively on the way there. When we passed the library, she said, "Ew!" and then was silent until we got to the Old Market. I think that sums up most people's views of the library.
State office building didn’t muster a response from her? Or was the trauma too much? Haha
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Garrett wrote: Tue Sep 28, 2021 11:19 am
State office building didn’t muster a response from her? Or was the trauma too much? Haha
Haha! Oh god, I forgot about that one. We were on Douglas going east though, so I don't think she saw it.
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I'm in the same boat about allowing this one to go. The previous teardowns were steps back as far as what we got in return. Whereas, if this is a mid/high-rise, it'd be an improvement over what's currently there. Not every building is going to be saved, or else NYC would still have a bunch of one-story buildings all over Manhattan. To me, this upgrade from a deteriorating 4-story building to a possible 18-story HQ or such that can promote other development is the definition of progress.
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Omaha Cowboy wrote: Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:46 am
thenewguy wrote: Tue Sep 28, 2021 9:35 am I agree. If we were talking about something that had actual historical significance, I'd understand. But just because something is old doesn't mean something is valuable. There are quite a few locations that a modernized library would better service the public, like on the UP parcel. It's location near central/Joslyn would be a better fit than where it is. My wife works at CPP and the library really isn't a destination for those who wish to actually use it for its intended purpose.
Agreed..

And comparing the potential razing of W Dale Clark to Jobbers Canyon or the Fontenelle Hotel? C’mon.. not even remotely an apples to apples comparison.. I get why some are up in arms over razing buildings, I’m not a fan usually of it either.. But IMO this downtown library has lost function, is extremely high cost to retain..and in the end, I don’t find it a unique architectural gem that most would kick themselves over once it is razed…

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I'd say: Obviously it isn't of the same scope. But I stand by that it is a good example of brutalist architecture. I suspect most of these structures will get torn down because they are on average homely.

The risk, IMO is that architecture seems to go through a phase where a couple of decades later, everyone hates it. For me, the International Style of the Woodmen is a great example of an ugly building.

I think rushing to raze the library is the wrong choice. I'm not fighting tooth and nail to save it, but the plan needs to be really good for me to jump on board.
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NEDodger wrote: Tue Sep 28, 2021 11:24 am I'm in the same boat about allowing this one to go. The previous teardowns were steps back as far as what we got in return. Whereas, if this is a mid/high-rise, it'd be an improvement over what's currently there. Not every building is going to be saved, or else NYC would still have a bunch of one-story buildings all over Manhattan. To me, this upgrade from a deteriorating 4-story building to a possible 18-story HQ or such that can promote other development is the definition of progress.
Agreed, the library is not a building worth making huge investments in to save. Now the commotion that was around the Specht building and its neighbors for the potential HDR was a different story. That's a building that is both historical and arguably easy on the eyes.
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The library buildings location deserves a better building. Not that the library building is bad, I don’t mind it. But that location deserves a better building. It’s possibly the best location downtown. I’m not sure if that location even needs a lot of height , a well designed 8 or 10 story building could look really good there. But I wouldn’t go lower than 8 floors.
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If what we’re hearing is accurate (and I believe it is), what we’ll be seeing proposed on the library parcel will be much more significant than an 8 story low rise…

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Omaha Cowboy wrote: Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:20 pm If what we’re hearing is accurate (and I believe it is), what we’ll be seeing proposed on the library parcel will be much more significant than an 8 story low rise…

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I really, really hope so.

I hate to lose the library building for anything less than a real contribution to downtown.

So we might have 2 30+ high rises coming in the next couple years?
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Athomsfere wrote: Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:34 pm
Omaha Cowboy wrote: Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:20 pm If what we’re hearing is accurate (and I believe it is), what we’ll be seeing proposed on the library parcel will be much more significant than an 8 story low rise…

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I really, really hope so.

I hate to lose the library building for anything less than a real contribution to downtown.

So we might have 2 30+ high rises coming in the next couple years?
While I absolutely don’t share the passion you have for salvaging the W Dale Clark-

What is rumored to be proposed, as part of this parcel, is a 14 to 18-20 story office building.. For the old UP Building site, a significant, skyline changing building..

Announcements should come as early as December.. I have a meeting scheduled with the “Cryptic Rumor Department” one week from tomorrow..so I’ll try and get any additional intel I’m allowed to share and give an update..

Stay tuned…

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These announcements always get delayed. Until they actually start moving dirt it’s far from a sure thing. We have been disappointed with so many announcements for downtown Omaha , most recently HDR’s downtown plans and the Lanoha tower bust. Again until they start moving dirt it could always get delayed, downsized or canceled. To early on this yet. If they start moving dirt and putting up fencing then it will be time to get excited. I thought both HDR and Wallstreet were done deals, neither got built. Lanoha was always a long shot anyway and fizzled.
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I understand the skepticism. I really do- I’ve been an administrator on this forum for all the ups and downs over the past nearly 18 years..

But at the same time, let’s lighten up. Before dirt is moved and steel goes into the ground, you need proposals..and that’s what we’re talking about here. Nothing more..

Being cup half full, if you get no proposal, you have nothing in the works in the first place..

I, for one, look forward to seeing what is being proposed downtown..especially as a by product of our Riverfront Redevelopment plan.. Stay tuned. Or not. That’s your choice.. We like to provide updated information on a forum which focuses on Omaha development…

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Omaha Cowboy wrote: Thu Sep 30, 2021 12:36 am I understand the skepticism. I really do- I’ve been an administrator on this forum for all the ups and downs over the past nearly 18 years..

But at the same time, let’s lighten up. Before dirt is moved and steel goes into the ground, you need proposals..and that’s what we’re talking about here. Nothing more..

Being cup half full, if you get no proposal, you have nothing in the works in the first place..

I, for one, look forward to seeing what is being proposed downtown..especially as a by product of our Riverfront Redevelopment plan.. Stay tuned. Or not. That’s your choice.. We like to provide updated information on a forum which focuses on Omaha development…

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Omaha Cowboy wrote: Thu Sep 30, 2021 12:36 am I understand the skepticism. I really do- I’ve been an administrator on this forum for all the ups and downs over the past nearly 18 years..

But at the same time, let’s lighten up. Before dirt is moved and steel goes into the ground, you need proposals..and that’s what we’re talking about here. Nothing more..

Being cup half full, if you get no proposal, you have nothing in the works in the first place..

I, for one, look forward to seeing what is being proposed downtown..especially as a by product of our Riverfront Redevelopment plan.. Stay tuned. Or not. That’s your choice.. We like to provide updated information on a forum which focuses on Omaha development…

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I think a huge part of my concern is that under Stothert even (from memory):

Something is announced, an existing building is destroyed, the lot sits empty or under utilized.

I do think the library site is far too important to meet that fate. Overall, from a visual and historical importance impact I give it maybe a 7/10. So for the right real development, I could be very happy too.

I live downtown, I plan to live in an urban center forever. I plan to invest in Omaha forever. I'm looking at it through that lens. I could see in 30-50 years the current library being a cool old building that people love. If we replace it, I hope it is soon, and in 30-100 years people will also love it.
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When the riverfront revitalization project was first announced three years ago, renderings were provided showing future buildings in prominent places around the development. From what the Rumor Department has noted to date, the potential buildings match well with those renderings. And since it seems that whatever Heritage Services gets behind usually comes true, I suspect this well too. They are motivated to see this succeed, and most likely have influenced private developers to work in concert with the overall vision. No doubt it will take a few years but the end result will be more than worth it.

If you’ve not seen the early renderings, check out the video here. The identified ConAgra building and Discovery Center are already coming true!

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Athomsfere wrote: Thu Sep 30, 2021 9:21 am
Omaha Cowboy wrote: Thu Sep 30, 2021 12:36 am I understand the skepticism. I really do- I’ve been an administrator on this forum for all the ups and downs over the past nearly 18 years..

But at the same time, let’s lighten up. Before dirt is moved and steel goes into the ground, you need proposals..and that’s what we’re talking about here. Nothing more..

Being cup half full, if you get no proposal, you have nothing in the works in the first place..

I, for one, look forward to seeing what is being proposed downtown..especially as a by product of our Riverfront Redevelopment plan.. Stay tuned. Or not. That’s your choice.. We like to provide updated information on a forum which focuses on Omaha development…

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I think a huge part of my concern is that under Stothert even (from memory):

Something is announced, an existing building is destroyed, the lot sits empty or under utilized.
Developments which will spur from the Riverfront Redevelopment plan are an entirely different animal imo.. They’re an extension if an overall vision..it will happen..and at the same time drag all the naysayers and anti-development folk with it..

I’d say demolition of the Library (as a small chess piece) etc for new developments rising throughout the downtown core to the Riverfront will all enhance the downtown experience..whether it’s livability 24/7, or for an occasional visit.. That’s why this $400 million Riverfront plan is such a game changer..we’re early in, but things are already beginning to fit into place..pretty exciting stuff imo…

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Really nice video, I think something will get built on the mall. Just not sure when or how tall. Could be in a few years or 10 years. And it doesn’t need to be just tall I would rather have a sharp looking 12–14 story building than a cheap ugly looking 20 story one. Hopefully it all works out. Downtowns got good momentum right now.
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plaidguy wrote: Thu Sep 30, 2021 6:27 pm When the riverfront revitalization project was first announced three years ago, renderings were provided showing future buildings in prominent places around the development. From what the Rumor Department has noted to date, the potential buildings match well with those renderings. And since it seems that whatever Heritage Services gets behind usually comes true, I suspect this well too. They are motivated to see this succeed, and most likely have influenced private developers to work in concert with the overall vision. No doubt it will take a few years but the end result will be more than worth it.

If you’ve not seen the early renderings, check out the video here. The identified ConAgra building and Discovery Center are already coming true!

Thanks for reposting the video.. It is indeed the one that came out shortly after the Riverfront Redevelopment plan was announced almost 3 years ago now..And we see what potential new developments can (and will likely) spur as a result..as the entire plan nears completion in mid 2024..

Stay tuned :thumb:

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Omaha Cowboy wrote: Fri Oct 01, 2021 8:55 am
plaidguy wrote: Thu Sep 30, 2021 6:27 pm When the riverfront revitalization project was first announced three years ago, renderings were provided showing future buildings in prominent places around the development. From what the Rumor Department has noted to date, the potential buildings match well with those renderings. And since it seems that whatever Heritage Services gets behind usually comes true, I suspect this well too. They are motivated to see this succeed, and most likely have influenced private developers to work in concert with the overall vision. No doubt it will take a few years but the end result will be more than worth it.

If you’ve not seen the early renderings, check out the video here. The identified ConAgra building and Discovery Center are already coming true!

Thanks for reposting the video.. It is indeed the one that came out shortly after the Riverfront Redevelopment plan was announced almost 3 years ago now..And we see what potential new developments can (and will likely) spur as a result..as the entire plan nears completion in mid 2024..

Stay tuned :thumb:

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I forgot about this video. If that tall residential is what we get, I'd be ecstatic!

heck, if this park looks half this great when it's done I'll be jumping up and down.
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Athomsfere wrote: Fri Oct 01, 2021 9:21 am
Omaha Cowboy wrote: Fri Oct 01, 2021 8:55 am
plaidguy wrote: Thu Sep 30, 2021 6:27 pm When the riverfront revitalization project was first announced three years ago, renderings were provided showing future buildings in prominent places around the development. From what the Rumor Department has noted to date, the potential buildings match well with those renderings. And since it seems that whatever Heritage Services gets behind usually comes true, I suspect this well too. They are motivated to see this succeed, and most likely have influenced private developers to work in concert with the overall vision. No doubt it will take a few years but the end result will be more than worth it.

If you’ve not seen the early renderings, check out the video here. The identified ConAgra building and Discovery Center are already coming true!

Thanks for reposting the video.. It is indeed the one that came out shortly after the Riverfront Redevelopment plan was announced almost 3 years ago now..And we see what potential new developments can (and will likely) spur as a result..as the entire plan nears completion in mid 2024..

Stay tuned :thumb:

Ciao..LiO…Peace
I forgot about this video. If that tall residential is what we get, I'd be ecstatic!

heck, if this park looks half this great when it's done I'll be jumping up and down.
I posted about this awhile back, but a MECA EVP told me that the residential high rise in the original rendering/video was removed in later ones because they want to see how the currently planned residential projects play out first. But she said their hope and goal, was to still have that developed down the road because it would offer exceptional views and be in a great location.
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Re: Library Lot & West Gene Leahy Block Redevelopment

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Doctor Fate wrote: Fri Oct 01, 2021 9:25 am
Athomsfere wrote: Fri Oct 01, 2021 9:21 am
Omaha Cowboy wrote: Fri Oct 01, 2021 8:55 am
plaidguy wrote: Thu Sep 30, 2021 6:27 pm When the riverfront revitalization project was first announced three years ago, renderings were provided showing future buildings in prominent places around the development. From what the Rumor Department has noted to date, the potential buildings match well with those renderings. And since it seems that whatever Heritage Services gets behind usually comes true, I suspect this well too. They are motivated to see this succeed, and most likely have influenced private developers to work in concert with the overall vision. No doubt it will take a few years but the end result will be more than worth it.

If you’ve not seen the early renderings, check out the video here. The identified ConAgra building and Discovery Center are already coming true!

Thanks for reposting the video.. It is indeed the one that came out shortly after the Riverfront Redevelopment plan was announced almost 3 years ago now..And we see what potential new developments can (and will likely) spur as a result..as the entire plan nears completion in mid 2024..

Stay tuned :thumb:

Ciao..LiO…Peace
I forgot about this video. If that tall residential is what we get, I'd be ecstatic!

heck, if this park looks half this great when it's done I'll be jumping up and down.
I posted about this awhile back, but a MECA EVP told me that the residential high rise in the original rendering/video was removed in later ones because they want to see how the currently planned residential projects play out first. But she said their hope and goal, was to still have that developed down the road because it would offer exceptional views and be in a great location.
Yeah it would. If we got a light rail, I'd try to buy a condo there!
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Re: Library Lot & West Gene Leahy Block Redevelopment

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Athomsfere wrote: Fri Oct 01, 2021 9:58 am
Doctor Fate wrote: Fri Oct 01, 2021 9:25 am
Athomsfere wrote: Fri Oct 01, 2021 9:21 am
Omaha Cowboy wrote: Fri Oct 01, 2021 8:55 am
plaidguy wrote: Thu Sep 30, 2021 6:27 pm When the riverfront revitalization project was first announced three years ago, renderings were provided showing future buildings in prominent places around the development. From what the Rumor Department has noted to date, the potential buildings match well with those renderings. And since it seems that whatever Heritage Services gets behind usually comes true, I suspect this well too. They are motivated to see this succeed, and most likely have influenced private developers to work in concert with the overall vision. No doubt it will take a few years but the end result will be more than worth it.

If you’ve not seen the early renderings, check out the video here. The identified ConAgra building and Discovery Center are already coming true!

Thanks for reposting the video.. It is indeed the one that came out shortly after the Riverfront Redevelopment plan was announced almost 3 years ago now..And we see what potential new developments can (and will likely) spur as a result..as the entire plan nears completion in mid 2024..

Stay tuned :thumb:

Ciao..LiO…Peace
I forgot about this video. If that tall residential is what we get, I'd be ecstatic!

heck, if this park looks half this great when it's done I'll be jumping up and down.
I posted about this awhile back, but a MECA EVP told me that the residential high rise in the original rendering/video was removed in later ones because they want to see how the currently planned residential projects play out first. But she said their hope and goal, was to still have that developed down the road because it would offer exceptional views and be in a great location.
Yeah it would. If we got a light rail, I'd try to buy a condo there!
Yeah, it’s pretty neat to watch that original video and see what was envisioned previously and what is becoming reality.

I really wish there wouldn’t have been a shift away from the original railroad “cap” and the riverfront promenade in Heartland. I’m sure there were many factors involved that led to those decisions, but a cap over the tracks and a lengthy promenade would have allowed a true connection of city to river; and imagine if the promenade could have been extended to the Breakers...that would better connect the riverfront to South Downtown, Little Italy and Little Bohemia and maybe help to spur additional developments in those areas.

Regardless, it’s an exciting time for downtown Omaha!
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Re: Library Lot & West Gene Leahy Block Redevelopment

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GrowUpFrances wrote: Fri Oct 01, 2021 10:58 am
I really wish there wouldn’t have been a shift away from the original railroad “cap” and the riverfront promenade in Heartland. I’m sure there were many factors involved that led to those decisions, but a cap over the tracks and a lengthy promenade would have allowed a true connection of city to river; and imagine if the promenade could have been extended to the Breakers...that would better connect the riverfront to South Downtown, Little Italy and Little Bohemia and maybe help to spur additional developments in those areas.
Yes, that would have been awesome. The area around Breakers has potential for additional development right on the riverfront. If we have a multimodal bridge in that area to Council Bluffs (a point in ConnectGo's plan), I could see that help spur development.
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Re: Library Lot & West Gene Leahy Block Redevelopment

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Athomsfere wrote: Fri Oct 01, 2021 9:58 am
Yeah it would. If we got a light rail, I'd try to buy a condo there!
If I was in Omaha still, I would too! Even if it was just a streetcar.
ita wrote: Fri Oct 01, 2021 11:20 am Yes, that would have been awesome. The area around Breakers has potential for additional development right on the riverfront. If we have a multimodal bridge in that area to Council Bluffs (a point in ConnectGo's plan), I could see that help spur development.
I always felt like the Breakers were a little isolated from the rest of downtown by the railroad tracks and the power plant. I think a bridge, like you said, could help with connectivity. And as the ConAgra redevelopment later phases begin, there should be more things on the south side of Heartland that will help connect it too.
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Re: Library Lot & West Gene Leahy Block Redevelopment

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ita wrote: Fri Oct 01, 2021 11:20 am
GrowUpFrances wrote: Fri Oct 01, 2021 10:58 am
I really wish there wouldn’t have been a shift away from the original railroad “cap” and the riverfront promenade in Heartland. I’m sure there were many factors involved that led to those decisions, but a cap over the tracks and a lengthy promenade would have allowed a true connection of city to river; and imagine if the promenade could have been extended to the Breakers...that would better connect the riverfront to South Downtown, Little Italy and Little Bohemia and maybe help to spur additional developments in those areas.
Yes, that would have been awesome. The area around Breakers has potential for additional development right on the riverfront. If we have a multimodal bridge in that area to Council Bluffs (a point in ConnectGo's plan), I could see that help spur development.
I agree here. Maybe if all of this is successful there can be an extension though.
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Re: Library Lot & West Gene Leahy Block Redevelopment

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Doctor Fate wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 3:56 pm
If we get a 18-20 story high rise on the library and the Lanoha proposal comes through, this view will look really dense and show the height in downtown.
Something like this:
library-1.jpg
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Re: Library Lot & West Gene Leahy Block Redevelopment

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Brad wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 4:23 pm
Doctor Fate wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 3:56 pm
If we get a 18-20 story high rise on the library and the Lanoha proposal comes through, this view will look really dense and show the height in downtown.
Something like this:
library-1.jpg
Nice Brad! What program did you use to make that massing?
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Re: Library Lot & West Gene Leahy Block Redevelopment

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Doctor Fate wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 6:26 pm
Nice Brad! What program did you use to make that massing?
Thanks. That's just a quick 10 second sketch in photoshop. Just approximated the height based on surrounding buildings.
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Re: Library Lot & West Gene Leahy Block Redevelopment

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Typical, uninspiring Omaha architecture!