Mutual of Omaha Tower (14th & Farnam)

[Louie]

Typical, uninspiring Omaha architecture!

hahahahaha, im dead

[Linkin5]

If we get a 18-20 story high rise on the library and the Lanoha proposal comes through, this view will look really dense and show the height in downtown.

Something like this:
library-1.jpg

Man that would really balance out the skyline, thanks Brad!

[nebport5]

Typical, uninspiring Omaha architecture!

LOL. Posting anything more will likely lead to disappointment. A reasonable assumption would be a mostly glass facade. I suppose we could take bets on what color the glass will be tinted.

[ita]

Typical, uninspiring Omaha architecture!

LOL. Posting anything more will likely lead to disappointment. A reasonable assumption would be a mostly glass facade. I suppose we could take bets on what color the glass will be tinted.

White for the Lanoha tower(s) and gold for the library site, ala Mandalay Bay in Vegas. Let's add some prestige to the skyline. Haha. Really, though, I kind of like the color pallete of our skyline.

If they do something architecturally daring (with some height) on the aforementioned sites, that's just a plus, in my opinion, to the major positive that is large scale in-fill development in downtown.

[SunMan]

If what we’re hearing is accurate (and I believe it is), what we’ll be seeing proposed on the library parcel will be much more significant than an 8 story low rise…

Ciao..LiO…Peace

I really, really hope so.

I hate to lose the library building for anything less than a real contribution to downtown.

So we might have 2 30+ high rises coming in the next couple years?

While I absolutely don’t share the passion you have for salvaging the W Dale Clark-

What is rumored to be proposed, as part of this parcel, is a 14 to 18-20 story office building.. For the old UP Building site, a significant, skyline changing building..

Announcements should come as early as December.. I have a meeting scheduled with the “Cryptic Rumor Department” one week from tomorrow..so I’ll try and get any additional intel I’m allowed to share and give an update..

Stay tuned…

Ciao..LiO…Peace

Any intel From the "Cryptic Rumor Department", Cowboy?

[Omaha Cowboy]

If what we’re hearing is accurate (and I believe it is), what we’ll be seeing proposed on the library parcel will be much more significant than an 8 story low rise…

Ciao..LiO…Peace

I really, really hope so.

I hate to lose the library building for anything less than a real contribution to downtown.

So we might have 2 30+ high rises coming in the next couple years?

While I absolutely don’t share the passion you have for salvaging the W Dale Clark-

What is rumored to be proposed, as part of this parcel, is a 14 to 18-20 story office building.. For the old UP Building site, a significant, skyline changing building..

Announcements should come as early as December.. I have a meeting scheduled with the “Cryptic Rumor Department” one week from tomorrow..so I’ll try and get any additional intel I’m allowed to share and give an update..

Stay tuned…

Ciao..LiO…Peace

Any intel From the "Cryptic Rumor Department", Cowboy?

All I was able to finagle was “hold steady and stay tuned”..

I’m hoping to get more intel to share in the next several weeks…

Ciao..LiO…Peace

[Vitruvius]

If we get a 18-20 story high rise on the library and the Lanoha proposal comes through, this view will look really dense and show the height in downtown.

Something like this:
library-1.jpg

How 'bout removing Logos and Names from the top of buildings? Why does every building here have to have the Name and/or Logo on the top?
Shouldn't a good building stand on it's own?
A major improvement to the skyline would be to demolish that OWH building. It looks like a giant space heater... visually heavy... one of the most unattractive buildings downtown.

[nebport5]

If we get a 18-20 story high rise on the library and the Lanoha proposal comes through, this view will look really dense and show the height in downtown.

Something like this:
library-1.jpg

How 'bout removing Logos and Names from the top of buildings? Why does every building here have to have the Name and/or Logo on the top?
Shouldn't a good building stand on it's own?
A major improvement to the skyline would be to demolish that OWH building. It looks like a giant space heater... visually heavy... one of the most unattractive buildings downtown.

Every building here? See the tallest structure in the city. It's rather standard for businesses(in most cities) to advertise their business no? I hear your point about a building design standing on it's own, however, Omaha isn't exactly the epicenter of cutting edge design. The conservative culture here also permeates the modern architecture. Consider how typical the groans are on this forum over design(myself included). In the better part of the last 20 years it's an Omaha miracle if an exciting project actually comes to fruition or is not considerably scaled back. First National Center is one of the few and most obvious examples of the antithesis. Most of us here have learned to lower expectations, be grateful for infill and projects like Kiewit committing to DT. Yes, the World Herald building does look like a space heater but it does provide some density. I'll take that over yet another undeveloped lot like the Civic site and former UP site. Also, while it fortunately doesn't impact the skyline, the structure at 1313 Farnam St I believe most here would prefer to see razed first and foremost.

[Athomsfere]

If we get a 18-20 story high rise on the library and the Lanoha proposal comes through, this view will look really dense and show the height in downtown.

Something like this:
library-1.jpg

How 'bout removing Logos and Names from the top of buildings? Why does every building here have to have the Name and/or Logo on the top?
Shouldn't a good building stand on it's own?
A major improvement to the skyline would be to demolish that OWH building. It looks like a giant space heater... visually heavy... one of the most unattractive buildings downtown.

I think out ugliest mid-rise to high rise is the Woodmen tower. The International style towers are almost always ugly.

But, I don't want to lose it.

[Cermak]

I’ve been inside the OWH building and it’s not bad inside at all, solid class B office space with large floor plates. The outside doesn’t look the best but I’ve seen worse, this style of architecture was popular in the late 70’s and it brings some height to that part of downtown. The building looks better from the north and south than from east/west in my opinion.

[Vitruvius]

If we get a 18-20 story high rise on the library and the Lanoha proposal comes through, this view will look really dense and show the height in downtown.

Something like this:
library-1.jpg

How 'bout removing Logos and Names from the top of buildings? Why does every building here have to have the Name and/or Logo on the top?
Shouldn't a good building stand on it's own?
A major improvement to the skyline would be to demolish that OWH building. It looks like a giant space heater... visually heavy... one of the most unattractive buildings downtown.

Every building here? See the tallest structure in the city. It's rather standard for businesses(in most cities) to advertise their business no? I hear your point about a building design standing on it's own, however, Omaha isn't exactly the epicenter of cutting edge design. The conservative culture here also permeates the modern architecture. Consider how typical the groans are on this forum over design(myself included). In the better part of the last 20 years it's an Omaha miracle if an exciting project actually comes to fruition or is not considerably scaled back. First National Center is one of the few and most obvious examples of the antithesis. Most of us here have learned to lower expectations, be grateful for infill and projects like Kiewit committing to DT. Yes, the World Herald building does look like a space heater but it does provide some density. I'll take that over yet another undeveloped lot like the Civic site and former UP site. Also, while it fortunately doesn't impact the skyline, the structure at 1313 Farnam St I believe most here would prefer to see razed first and foremost.

I guess I should've stated, nearly every building. I prefer 1313 Farnam to the OWH building. I'd put the Library at the top of my demo list.
As far as expectations, raising or lowering, in Omaha, there's no point.

[PotatoeEatsFish]

If we get a 18-20 story high rise on the library and the Lanoha proposal comes through, this view will look really dense and show the height in downtown.

Something like this:
library-1.jpg

How 'bout removing Logos and Names from the top of buildings? Why does every building here have to have the Name and/or Logo on the top?
Shouldn't a good building stand on it's own?
A major improvement to the skyline would be to demolish that OWH building. It looks like a giant space heater... visually heavy... one of the most unattractive buildings downtown.

I think out ugliest mid-rise to high rise is the Woodmen tower. The International style towers are almost always ugly.

But, I don't want to lose it.

My favorite thing about the Woodman is how it's not even a square it's slightly a rectangle

[MadJack]

If we get a 18-20 story high rise on the library and the Lanoha proposal comes through, this view will look really dense and show the height in downtown.

Something like this:
library-1.jpg

How 'bout removing Logos and Names from the top of buildings? Why does every building here have to have the Name and/or Logo on the top?
Shouldn't a good building stand on it's own?
A major improvement to the skyline would be to demolish that OWH building. It looks like a giant space heater... visually heavy... one of the most unattractive buildings downtown.

Companies exist to turn a profit, not build skyscrapers to make guys on discussion forums feel warm and fuzzy.

[PotatoeEatsFish]

If we get a 18-20 story high rise on the library and the Lanoha proposal comes through, this view will look really dense and show the height in downtown.

Something like this:
library-1.jpg

How 'bout removing Logos and Names from the top of buildings? Why does every building here have to have the Name and/or Logo on the top?
Shouldn't a good building stand on it's own?
A major improvement to the skyline would be to demolish that OWH building. It looks like a giant space heater... visually heavy... one of the most unattractive buildings downtown.

Companies exist to turn a profit, not build skyscrapers to make guys on discussion forums feel warm and fuzzy.

Plus all skyscrapers in other major cities also have logos
I think there might be a paint huffing pandemic on this forum

[Omaha Cowboy]

And on that note, let’s try and stay on topic here folks..

We don’t want to see this thread take a deep dive off a cliff..

Thanks…

Ciao..LiO…Peace

[Vitruvius]

If we get a 18-20 story high rise on the library and the Lanoha proposal comes through, this view will look really dense and show the height in downtown.

Something like this:
library-1.jpg

How 'bout removing Logos and Names from the top of buildings? Why does every building here have to have the Name and/or Logo on the top?
Shouldn't a good building stand on it's own?
A major improvement to the skyline would be to demolish that OWH building. It looks like a giant space heater... visually heavy... one of the most unattractive buildings downtown.

Companies exist to turn a profit, not build skyscrapers to make guys on discussion forums feel warm and fuzzy.

Plus all skyscrapers in other major cities also have logos
I think there might be a paint huffing pandemic on this forum

All skyscrapers in major cities do not have logos or names at the top, and Omaha is not a major city like Kansas City or Minneapolis.

[TitosBuritoBarn]

If we get a 18-20 story high rise on the library and the Lanoha proposal comes through, this view will look really dense and show the height in downtown.

Something like this:
library-1.jpg

How 'bout removing Logos and Names from the top of buildings? Why does every building here have to have the Name and/or Logo on the top?
Shouldn't a good building stand on it's own?
A major improvement to the skyline would be to demolish that OWH building. It looks like a giant space heater... visually heavy... one of the most unattractive buildings downtown.

Companies exist to turn a profit, not build skyscrapers to make guys on discussion forums feel warm and fuzzy.

Plus all skyscrapers in other major cities also have logos
I think there might be a paint huffing pandemic on this forum

All skyscrapers in major cities do not have logos or names at the top, and Omaha is not a major city like Kansas City or Minneapolis.

It varies city to city. For example, nearly all the tallest skyscrapers in Los Angeles have a company name on top. Nearly all in Chicago do not. Los Angeles allows them; Chicago does not.



Sometimes great architectural monuments don’t stand on their own and serve as billboards for car companies:

[Athomsfere]

Again, I'm failing to see the train of thought here:

Omaha, Minneapolis, and KC are three different tiers to of Cities. You can't really compare the three at all, especially not directly. That said, even if you could; a city can and should have it's own identity.

I personally don't mind the logos one way or the other, and I have certainly seen plenty of towers in plenty of cities with giant logos. Of course, it's very different with something that has it's own zipcode and the tower with "toast" on it.

[buildomaha]

Personally I find a distracting logo on a great building distasteful, but Omaha is not in the position to be telling companies not to do it. We haven’t had a high rise constructed in over twenty years in a city that hs had pretty robust population and economic growth.

[ad2330]

Heard just a minute ago that there is a likely BIG announcement coming maybe even this week for the Library lot. We're talking FNBO tower type structure. HOLY SMOKES.

[Doctor Fate]

Heard just a minute ago that there is a likely BIG announcement coming maybe even this week for the Library lot. We're talking FNBO tower type structure. HOLY SMOKES.

Do you have any more details you can share? Height, mixed-use, etc? We have had a rumor from multiple independent sources about potentially an 18-20 story tower on the Library lot but nothing about a FNB type structure. That would be wild!

[ad2330]

Heard just a minute ago that there is a likely BIG announcement coming maybe even this week for the Library lot. We're talking FNBO tower type structure. HOLY SMOKES.

Do you have any more details you can share? Height, mixed-use, etc? We have had a rumor from multiple independent sources about potentially an 18-20 story tower on the Library lot but nothing about a FNB type structure. That would be wild!

I don't. But source is good and said that a press release could be as early as this week. Large National user, FNBO size. Crazy.

[Athomsfere]

Heard just a minute ago that there is a likely BIG announcement coming maybe even this week for the Library lot. We're talking FNBO tower type structure. HOLY SMOKES.

Do you have any more details you can share? Height, mixed-use, etc? We have had a rumor from multiple independent sources about potentially an 18-20 story tower on the Library lot but nothing about a FNB type structure. That would be wild!

I don't. But source is good and said that a press release could be as early as this week. Large National user, FNBO size. Crazy.

To be fair, this FNBO building would fit both descriptions:

[stormchaser]

Heard just a minute ago that there is a likely BIG announcement coming maybe even this week for the Library lot. We're talking FNBO tower type structure. HOLY SMOKES.

Do you have any more details you can share? Height, mixed-use, etc? We have had a rumor from multiple independent sources about potentially an 18-20 story tower on the Library lot but nothing about a FNB type structure. That would be wild!

I don't. But source is good and said that a press release could be as early as this week. Large National user, FNBO size. Crazy.

No offense intended but I'll believe it when I see it. Even if the announcement is made this week or this year yet, until they start moving dirt, I'll struggle to believe that it will actually get built (based on the track record). Fingers crossed though...

[Athomsfere]

Heard just a minute ago that there is a likely BIG announcement coming maybe even this week for the Library lot. We're talking FNBO tower type structure. HOLY SMOKES.

Do you have any more details you can share? Height, mixed-use, etc? We have had a rumor from multiple independent sources about potentially an 18-20 story tower on the Library lot but nothing about a FNB type structure. That would be wild!

I don't. But source is good and said that a press release could be as early as this week. Large National user, FNBO size. Crazy.

No offense intended but I'll believe it when I see it. Even if the announcement is made this week or this year yet, until they start moving dirt, I'll struggle to believe that it will actually get built (based on the track record). Fingers crossed though...

Unless it's a not-from-Omaha developer at least. If it's outside investment, they might see it as cheap and a worthy risk

[Hawkeye]

Heard just a minute ago that there is a likely BIG announcement coming maybe even this week for the Library lot. We're talking FNBO tower type structure. HOLY SMOKES.

Do you have any more details you can share? Height, mixed-use, etc? We have had a rumor from multiple independent sources about potentially an 18-20 story tower on the Library lot but nothing about a FNB type structure. That would be wild!

I don't. But source is good and said that a press release could be as early as this week. Large National user, FNBO size. Crazy.

[Omaha Cowboy]

Heard just a minute ago that there is a likely BIG announcement coming maybe even this week for the Library lot. We're talking FNBO tower type structure. HOLY SMOKES.

Do you have any more details you can share? Height, mixed-use, etc? We have had a rumor from multiple independent sources about potentially an 18-20 story tower on the Library lot but nothing about a FNB type structure. That would be wild!

I don't. But source is good and said that a press release could be as early as this week. Large National user, FNBO size. Crazy.

Hahaha. I figured a rumor this big would bring ‘ol Hawkeye in for a comment..Good to see you back old friend..

Just to add here, I met with the Cryptic Rumor Department one week ago and I was told everything is in a holding pattern right now for the library site plans- the idea of a 14-20 story building anchor with Fiserv in the wings is still the “good rumor” plan..I was told we would likely not have any announcements until Q 1 of 2022..

So this new rumor is from a “source” I am unaware of…

Ciao..LiO…Peace

[Garrett]

Heard just a minute ago that there is a likely BIG announcement coming maybe even this week for the Library lot. We're talking FNBO tower type structure. HOLY SMOKES.

Do you have any more details you can share? Height, mixed-use, etc? We have had a rumor from multiple independent sources about potentially an 18-20 story tower on the Library lot but nothing about a FNB type structure. That would be wild!

I don't. But source is good and said that a press release could be as early as this week. Large National user, FNBO size. Crazy.

Hahaha. I figured a rumor this big would bring ‘ol Hawkeye in for a comment..Good to see you back old friend..

Just to add here, I met with the Cryptic Rumor Department one week ago and I was told everything is in a holding pattern right now for the library site plans- the idea of a 14-20 story building anchor with Fiserv in the wings is still the “good rumor” plan..I was told we would likely not have any announcements until Q 1 of 2022..

So this new rumor is from a “source” I am unaware of…

Ciao..LiO…Peace

Perhaps some wires are crossed and ad2330 means Lanoha?

[Hawkeye]

Heard just a minute ago that there is a likely BIG announcement coming maybe even this week for the Library lot. We're talking FNBO tower type structure. HOLY SMOKES.

Do you have any more details you can share? Height, mixed-use, etc? We have had a rumor from multiple independent sources about potentially an 18-20 story tower on the Library lot but nothing about a FNB type structure. That would be wild!

I don't. But source is good and said that a press release could be as early as this week. Large National user, FNBO size. Crazy.

Hahaha. I figured a rumor this big would bring ‘ol Hawkeye in for a comment..Good to see you back old friend..

Just to add here, I met with the Cryptic Rumor Department one week ago and I was told everything is in a holding pattern right now for the library site plans- the idea of a 14-20 story building anchor with Fiserv in the wings is still the “good rumor” plan..I was told we would likely not have any announcements until Q 1 of 2022..

So this new rumor is from a “source” I am unaware of…

Ciao..LiO…Peace

Hey old buddy, it's good to be back. The idea of a game-changer at the library site (whether at the FNB level or the more likely 20-story) is certainly intriguing. Plus, it leaves room at the riverfront for the Vortex Tower!

Thank you. Thank you. You've been a great crowd. Ol' Hawkeye will be here all week. Two shows on Friday and Saturday night. Don't forget to tip your waitress. Try the veal. Thanks for comin' out everybody. Drive safely. Goodnight!

[Omaha Cowboy]

Heard just a minute ago that there is a likely BIG announcement coming maybe even this week for the Library lot. We're talking FNBO tower type structure. HOLY SMOKES.

Do you have any more details you can share? Height, mixed-use, etc? We have had a rumor from multiple independent sources about potentially an 18-20 story tower on the Library lot but nothing about a FNB type structure. That would be wild!

I don't. But source is good and said that a press release could be as early as this week. Large National user, FNBO size. Crazy.

Hahaha. I figured a rumor this big would bring ‘ol Hawkeye in for a comment..Good to see you back old friend..

Just to add here, I met with the Cryptic Rumor Department one week ago and I was told everything is in a holding pattern right now for the library site plans- the idea of a 14-20 story building anchor with Fiserv in the wings is still the “good rumor” plan..I was told we would likely not have any announcements until Q 1 of 2022..

So this new rumor is from a “source” I am unaware of…

Ciao..LiO…Peace

Perhaps some wires are crossed and ad2330 means Lanoha?

Possibly..

I think we’re a ways away from hearing an announcement for the Lanoha site..

Of course, I hope I’m wrong…

Ciao..LiO…Peace

[Omaha Cowboy]

Heard just a minute ago that there is a likely BIG announcement coming maybe even this week for the Library lot. We're talking FNBO tower type structure. HOLY SMOKES.

Do you have any more details you can share? Height, mixed-use, etc? We have had a rumor from multiple independent sources about potentially an 18-20 story tower on the Library lot but nothing about a FNB type structure. That would be wild!

I don't. But source is good and said that a press release could be as early as this week. Large National user, FNBO size. Crazy.

Hahaha. I figured a rumor this big would bring ‘ol Hawkeye in for a comment..Good to see you back old friend..

Just to add here, I met with the Cryptic Rumor Department one week ago and I was told everything is in a holding pattern right now for the library site plans- the idea of a 14-20 story building anchor with Fiserv in the wings is still the “good rumor” plan..I was told we would likely not have any announcements until Q 1 of 2022..

So this new rumor is from a “source” I am unaware of…

Ciao..LiO…Peace

Hey old buddy, it's good to be back. The idea of a game-changer at the library site (whether at the FNB level or the more likely 20-story) is certainly intriguing. Plus, it leaves room at the riverfront for the Vortex Tower!

Thank you. Thank you. You've been a great crowd. Ol' Hawkeye will be here all week. Two shows on Friday and Saturday night. Don't forget to tip your waitress. Try the veal. Thanks for comin' out everybody. Drive safely. Goodnight!

Ah yes- the Vortex Tower.. It should be displayed prominently along our Riverfront Redevelopment area …

Ciao..LiO…Peace

[BIGO88]

So just to add to this rumor...I was eating last night in midtown crossing when two guys sat next to me at the bar and started talking about all there real estate investments in Texas and Arkansas. Then one of them says “Oh I’m not supposed to be talking about this but they just announced plans for a 50 story skyscraper in the heart of downtown Omaha” it will be announced in a few weeks and be the headquarters for a national company. I would guess something is in the works with all these rumors!

[Omaha Cowboy]

Interesting..

I can’t imagine a spot for a 50 story tower would be the current library parcel..Maybe?..The Lanoha site, as Garrett indicated last night, yes..

I’ll try and place my nose to the grindstone and see if our “Cryptic Rumor Department” has at least heard any scuttlebutt regarding these rumors which have popped up now several times since yesterday…

Ciao..LiO…Peace

[GetUrban]

I can’t imagine a 50-story tower would be starting anytime soon with construction prices still somewhat inflated from the Pandemic, plus the demand is probably lower now too because of that. I hope I’m wrong. Isn’t there an available site in the block just east of the Library? They also need to build a new library to replace the old one before it can close and be torn down. I agree the Lanoha site seems more likely, although not as prominent being off the GLM.

[Omaha Cowboy]

I can’t imagine a 50-story tower would be starting anytime soon with construction prices still somewhat inflated from the Pandemic, plus the demand is probably lower now too because of that. I hope I’m wrong. Isn’t there an available site in the block just east of the Library? They also need to build a new library to replace the old one before it can close and be torn down.

The Lanoha site just to the north would be ready to accommodate such an endeavor..but I have yet to hear anything substantive which supports any of these rumors as of yet…

Ciao..LiO…Peace

[Garrett]

So just to add to this rumor...I was eating last night in midtown crossing when two guys sat next to me at the bar and started talking about all there real estate investments in Texas and Arkansas. Then one of them says “Oh I’m not supposed to be talking about this but they just announced plans for a 50 story skyscraper in the heart of downtown Omaha” it will be announced in a few weeks and be the headquarters for a national company. I would guess something is in the works with all these rumors!

I think some of you might be missing the Bob reference in this. ;-) European Village anyone?

[Athomsfere]

So just to add to this rumor...I was eating last night in midtown crossing when two guys sat next to me at the bar and started talking about all there real estate investments in Texas and Arkansas. Then one of them says “Oh I’m not supposed to be talking about this but they just announced plans for a 50 story skyscraper in the heart of downtown Omaha” it will be announced in a few weeks and be the headquarters for a national company. I would guess something is in the works with all these rumors!

I think some of you might be missing the Bob reference in this. ;-) European Village anyone?

I thought this felt eerily familiar. I'd love a big, new announcement. It's also very difficult to trust any rumors of something major in Omaha.

[ad2330]

Heard just a minute ago that there is a likely BIG announcement coming maybe even this week for the Library lot. We're talking FNBO tower type structure. HOLY SMOKES.

Do you have any more details you can share? Height, mixed-use, etc? We have had a rumor from multiple independent sources about potentially an 18-20 story tower on the Library lot but nothing about a FNB type structure. That would be wild!

I don't. But source is good and said that a press release could be as early as this week. Large National user, FNBO size. Crazy.

Hahaha. I figured a rumor this big would bring ‘ol Hawkeye in for a comment..Good to see you back old friend..

Just to add here, I met with the Cryptic Rumor Department one week ago and I was told everything is in a holding pattern right now for the library site plans- the idea of a 14-20 story building anchor with Fiserv in the wings is still the “good rumor” plan..I was told we would likely not have any announcements until Q 1 of 2022..

So this new rumor is from a “source” I am unaware of…

Ciao..LiO…Peace

Perhaps some wires are crossed and ad2330 means Lanoha?

Possibly..

I think we’re a ways away from hearing an announcement for the Lanoha site..

Of course, I hope I’m wrong…

Ciao..LiO…Peace

I’m hearing on the Library lot…

[thenewguy]

So just to add to this rumor...I was eating last night in midtown crossing when two guys sat next to me at the bar and started talking about all there real estate investments in Texas and Arkansas. Then one of them says “Oh I’m not supposed to be talking about this but they just announced plans for a 50 story skyscraper in the heart of downtown Omaha” it will be announced in a few weeks and be the headquarters for a national company. I would guess something is in the works with all these rumors!

I'm thinking this may be worth of some for of BS flag? ;) I don't think BIGO88 was being sincere...

[nebport5]

I’m hearing on the Library lot…

From a skyline aesthetics perspective, building the would be tallest structure in the city, makes more sense here than Lanoha( aside from likely blocking out the Woodmen from a westward view).