I don't even know why that was including in the Leo A Daly submission. Just FYI, they are planning to have site selection and initial renderings done by late fall.
It’s the exact condo rendering that was released in Lincoln (although I know the architect and the design has changed slightly by now), and they just kept the same site surroundings for the render. My assumption is that this is a placeholder to begin the ball rolling at the city office.
Garrett wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 12:00 am
That’s odd… wonder why Leo A Daly would put that as part of the package. Makes zero sense for a police/fire HQ design.
Garrett wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 12:00 am
That’s odd… wonder why Leo A Daly would put that as part of the package. Makes zero sense for a police/fire HQ design.
I’ve been inside the Omaha police HQ it’s old and it’s showing its age. There’s not enough room for the command staff and the different detectives that work inside the building. Not to mention the CSI room that’s located in the basement is filled to the brim with Items. They are definitely needing a new building. I would want a 20-30 story tall facility with a large underground parking garage for the facility. Along with an indoor shooting range.
Personally in my opinion they will go with 15 story building and call it good lol. They might even convince the Douglas county emergency management into the building as a command center and heck might even have the Nebraska State patrol Troop A relocate to that building where they can have their own separate floor. A lot of exciting possibilities.
Duggers_Dad wrote: Thu May 04, 2023 7:53 pm
A 22 story police/fire HQ ???
Feels actually on the short side, honestly.
Wichita has their PD HQ in a 13 story building. And we are double their size, So for all the records, SPIDER, etc. that might be there, I'd expect 13+ for just a modern PD.
Assuming FD would want about the same space, double it to ~26, adjust for lot sizes and it could be higher or lower.
A lot of assumptions on my part though. I have no clue if we break up administration differently, need more or less space on average per unit X...
Garrett wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 12:00 am
That’s odd… wonder why Leo A Daly would put that as part of the package. Makes zero sense for a police/fire HQ design.
Maybe Jean's got tower fever.
that's a good thing, right?
YES!
Actually, great news. I'm glad to see something moving on this.
OmahaFan wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 7:58 am
I’ve been inside the Omaha police HQ it’s old and it’s showing its age. There’s not enough room for the command staff and the different detectives that work inside the building. Not to mention the CSI room that’s located in the basement is filled to the brim with Items. They are definitely needing a new building. I would want a 20-30 story tall facility with a large underground parking garage for the facility. Along with an indoor shooting range.
I've been in the Omaha Police headquarters as well and wasn't overly impressed. It didn't seem like a Police headquarters for a city of 400,000 but more of maybe 150,000. I would think a much more impressive building would house a Police unit for a top 50 population city. Hopefully this will change soon. And Omaha can have a wonderful and deserving Police Headquarters building, I would hope it would be at least 10 floors. They have the perfect spot for it on the the old auditorium site.
Duggers_Dad wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 8:50 am
I’ve just never heard of a police highrise in a mid-tier city. The HQ in Charlotte, NC, metro population 2.7 million is maybe 3 or four stories.
I would be OK with it if it was more of a sprawling 3-4 story building as well as long as its architecturally pleasing design. They would have plenty of room on the old auditorium site and may decide to keep it low. The police headquarters building we have right now is one of downtown's uglier buildings.
Duggers_Dad wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 8:50 am
I’ve just never heard of a police highrise in a mid-tier city. The HQ in Charlotte, NC, metro population 2.7 million is maybe 3 or four stories.
I would be OK with it if it was more of a sprawling 3-4 story building as well as long as its architecturally pleasing design. They would have plenty of room on the old auditorium site. The police headquarters building we have right now is one of downtown's uglier buildings.
Please no. Plus, I have a feeling that the civic site is not on the short list. The mayor alluded to a new plan that was supposed to be reviewed by planning in May. Site selection for the public safety building is pending until later this year.
It doesn't have to be a high rise, but if downtown is the location, they still need space for the fire engines and several levels of parking for police cars. I would love to see them on a 1/4-1/2 block, with a level or two of underground parking 3-4 of parking structure, with 4-5 office on top, with a public reception area on the ground floor. So basically the Mutual HQ in 1/6 scale.
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The rendering of the tower, which is the exact same tower proposed in Lincoln, was included with LAD’s proposal solely as an illustrative example of the level of concept rendering LAD will provide to the City for the two “most viable” alternatives they ultimately develop (see LAD’s Proposal under “Scope of Work” number 6a.)… it’s not indicative of what may be to come, unfortunately, strictly an example of a final rendering product.
Yeah if KETV would have taken 2 minutes to find the reference to exhibit A in the document they would have easily seen it is an example of a rendering, not the rendering.
I’m dead serious idk how this world is going to survive without journalists anymore. These are the people we’re supposed to get news from!?
Duggers_Dad wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 8:50 am
I’ve just never heard of a police highrise in a mid-tier city. The HQ in Charlotte, NC, metro population 2.7 million is maybe 3 or four stories.
Charlotte is also built every way we don't want to build a city though. Low density, a loop around the core. Detached SFH to parking lots, and then straight to high rises.
Duggers_Dad wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 8:50 am
I’ve just never heard of a police highrise in a mid-tier city. The HQ in Charlotte, NC, metro population 2.7 million is maybe 3 or four stories.
I would be OK with it if it was more of a sprawling 3-4 story building(...)
Why?
If the land has value, why waste 4 times as much of it for a single building. Especially if it's a public services building paid for with taxes.
Thinking about it and reading the comments I would agree 20 to 30 story building would be stretching it. Personally I think it would be a great place for City , County and even State Law enforcement to be in 1 building. Not to mention an emergency command post of some nature as well. Idk… maybe move the 911 dispatch center in there as well. Just ideas.
The Salt Lake City Public Safety Building is probably one of the better comps on what to expect for the scale here (I can't believe this is 10 years old already I remember when this got all kinds of awards). This is their, not so new now, Police and Fire HQ. I would love something like this to anchor the Civic Site.
And it is well incorporated into the urban fabric/street grid of SLC.
iamjacobm wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 12:50 pm
The Salt Lake City Public Safety Building is probably one of the better comps on what to expect for the scale here (I can't believe this is 10 years old already I remember when this got all kinds of awards). This is their, not so new now, Police and Fire HQ. I would love something like this to anchor the Civic Site.
And it is well incorporated into the urban fabric/street grid of SLC.
Just saying that scale is much more reasonable than to expect some sort of tower out of this. I would also expect setbacks from the street for safety concerns.
I'd take this scene on the Civic site in a heartbeat.
Duggers_Dad wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 8:50 am
I’ve just never heard of a police highrise in a mid-tier city. The HQ in Charlotte, NC, metro population 2.7 million is maybe 3 or four stories.
Charlotte is also built every way we don't want to build a city though. Low density, a loop around the core. Detached SFH to parking lots, and then straight to high rises.
I live in Charlotte now. It’s not exactly the hellhole you describe. Funny, the sentiment here is avoiding building like Atlanta.
Duggers_Dad wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 8:50 am
I’ve just never heard of a police highrise in a mid-tier city. The HQ in Charlotte, NC, metro population 2.7 million is maybe 3 or four stories.
Charlotte is also built every way we don't want to build a city though. Low density, a loop around the core. Detached SFH to parking lots, and then straight to high rises.
I live in Charlotte now. It’s not exactly the hellhole you describe. Funny, the sentiment here is avoiding building like Atlanta.
Duggers_Dad wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 8:50 am
I’ve just never heard of a police highrise in a mid-tier city. The HQ in Charlotte, NC, metro population 2.7 million is maybe 3 or four stories.
Charlotte is also built every way we don't want to build a city though. Low density, a loop around the core. Detached SFH to parking lots, and then straight to high rises.
I live in Charlotte now. It’s not exactly the hellhole you describe. Funny, the sentiment here is avoiding building like Atlanta.
I didn't call or try to suggest it's a hellhole.
It's somewhere middle of the pack for built environments. Way above an OKC or KC. But well behind comparable peers like Portland or Milwaukee.
Omaha Cowboy wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 7:39 pm
Well, whatever becomes of this possible new public safety HQ’s, it’s in the conceptual stage and likely a LONG way off..
But-
I’m just stoked for the Mutual Tower, the Streetcar and the tons of development happening in the core, and all over metro Omaha right now…
Ciao..LiO…Peace
1000% we are doing a lot of great things. I have high hopes for this as well.
Not exactly on target, but the newest images from Tack for the rowhouses on Leavenworth... Thats GREAT infill and looks sharp.
