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Looks like the concrete pumping jack has been removed from the north side of the parking garage. The southern one still remains.
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skinzfan23 wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2024 3:01 pm
Why does it look like something crashed through the concrete forms right at the end?
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Brad wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2024 1:16 pm
Why does it look like something crashed through the concrete forms right at the end?
That is strange, could they have done that on purpose? At first I was thinking that a support beam would maybe go up there, but I think they will be in towards the center of the building more.

Edit: nvm, as mentioned above the pumping crane was removed (it was previously there)
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I'm getting pretty excited for the topout next year. I walk by it a couple times a week, and boy is the garage huge. I'm a bit baffled why they dedicated so much space to parking when there are fewer total offices than the old building and a push for hybrid work, but oh well. Worst case scenario, they could always convert some lower parking levels to public or private bike parking in the future.
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I was wondering if some of the parking will be public parking during the work day or if it will only be after work hours.
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skinzfan23 wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 9:51 am I was wondering if some of the parking will be public parking during the work day or if it will only be after work hours.
According to the MoO website, the 2,200 stall garage will be used by employees during business hours and then will be open to public use during the evening and weekend hours!

https://www.mutualofomaha.com/about/new ... nd%20hours.
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The core is actively moving up..
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The core is being raised right now. Up to 24 floors.

3/17: 8 floors
3/24: 9 floors
4/7: 11 floors
4/18: 13 floors
5/3: 15 floors
5/30: 17 floors
8/8: 18 Floors
8/20: 19 Floors
9/3: 20 Floors
9/17: 21 Floors
10/2: 22 floors
10/23: 23 floors
11/8: 24 floors

Based on previous est, the building would be around 327 ft, so it would now be the 3rd tallest in the city (if you don't account for the antenna on the AT&T building)
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Officially 3rd tallest:

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Can't wait for the day when it finally surpasses the Woodman.
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arch_RP_planner wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 10:17 am
skinzfan23 wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 9:51 am I was wondering if some of the parking will be public parking during the work day or if it will only be after work hours.
According to the MoO website, the 2,200 stall garage will be used by employees during business hours and then will be open to public use during the evening and weekend hours!

https://www.mutualofomaha.com/about/new ... nd%20hours.
Oh, that's amazing news! I hope it's free, because then there will be even more pressure to start building where so many empty lots are around the core. Could also be the stimulus needed to start removing street-side parking, potentially paving the way for the removal of one-ways.
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Does anybody know when in 2026 the tower is set to be occupied?

If I'm remembering correctly, it'll be in Spring, which would point toward a Fall 2025 completion date, but I don't know if thats accurate.
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HighWinds wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 1:28 pm Does anybody know when in 2026 the tower is set to be occupied?

If I'm remembering correctly, it'll be in Spring, which would point toward a Fall 2025 completion date, but I don't know if thats accurate.
As far as I remember, it was slated to finish in 2026 too. Based on the current pace of development, top-out probably won't happen until late spring at the earliest, though some of that depends on weather over this coming season. Once top-out happens, it will probably be another year before the structure is completed. My guess would be that they begin to move some divisions in sometime in mid-2026, even if they're still finishing the interiors on other levels.
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meliketrains wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 1:50 pm
HighWinds wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 1:28 pm Does anybody know when in 2026 the tower is set to be occupied?

If I'm remembering correctly, it'll be in Spring, which would point toward a Fall 2025 completion date, but I don't know if thats accurate.
As far as I remember, it was slated to finish in 2026 too. Based on the current pace of development, top-out probably won't happen until late spring at the earliest, though some of that depends on weather over this coming season. Once top-out happens, it will probably be another year before the structure is completed. My guess would be that they begin to move some divisions in sometime in mid-2026, even if they're still finishing the interiors on other levels.
Based on the current trend of two floors per month, top-out of the core should occur in September of 2025.

Maybe now that the garage is done, the core will start moving up faster?

Topping out in September of next year seems like way too late, unless the tower is to be completed in late 2026.
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HighWinds wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 2:55 pm
meliketrains wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 1:50 pm
HighWinds wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 1:28 pm Does anybody know when in 2026 the tower is set to be occupied?

If I'm remembering correctly, it'll be in Spring, which would point toward a Fall 2025 completion date, but I don't know if thats accurate.
As far as I remember, it was slated to finish in 2026 too. Based on the current pace of development, top-out probably won't happen until late spring at the earliest, though some of that depends on weather over this coming season. Once top-out happens, it will probably be another year before the structure is completed. My guess would be that they begin to move some divisions in sometime in mid-2026, even if they're still finishing the interiors on other levels.
Based on the current trend of two floors per month, top-out of the core should occur in September of 2025.

Maybe now that the garage is done, the core will start moving up faster?

Topping out in September of next year seems like way too late, unless the tower is to be completed in late 2026.
That would be correct, now that the foundation and garage are essentially complete, hiking the core will likely progress quickly. I'll probably hold to my estimate of late Spring 2025 for a top-out of the core with completion in 2026 and partial occupancy in the 3rd quarter of that year.
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meliketrains wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 3:18 pm
HighWinds wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 2:55 pm
meliketrains wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 1:50 pm
HighWinds wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 1:28 pm Does anybody know when in 2026 the tower is set to be occupied?

If I'm remembering correctly, it'll be in Spring, which would point toward a Fall 2025 completion date, but I don't know if thats accurate.
As far as I remember, it was slated to finish in 2026 too. Based on the current pace of development, top-out probably won't happen until late spring at the earliest, though some of that depends on weather over this coming season. Once top-out happens, it will probably be another year before the structure is completed. My guess would be that they begin to move some divisions in sometime in mid-2026, even if they're still finishing the interiors on other levels.
Based on the current trend of two floors per month, top-out of the core should occur in September of 2025.

Maybe now that the garage is done, the core will start moving up faster?

Topping out in September of next year seems like way too late, unless the tower is to be completed in late 2026.
That would be correct, now that the foundation and garage are essentially complete, hiking the core will likely progress quickly. I'll probably hold to my estimate of late Spring 2025 for a top-out of the core with completion in 2026 and partial occupancy in the 3rd quarter of that year.
Assuming the core does begin to progress quickly, then a Spring 2025 top-out makes a lot of sense. :thumb:
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meliketrains wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 1:00 pm
arch_RP_planner wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 10:17 am
skinzfan23 wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 9:51 am I was wondering if some of the parking will be public parking during the work day or if it will only be after work hours.
According to the MoO website, the 2,200 stall garage will be used by employees during business hours and then will be open to public use during the evening and weekend hours!

https://www.mutualofomaha.com/about/new ... nd%20hours.
Oh, that's amazing news! I hope it's free, because then there will be even more pressure to start building where so many empty lots are around the core. Could also be the stimulus needed to start removing street-side parking, potentially paving the way for the removal of one-ways.

Last I heard the city is buying the garage from Mutual and leasing spaces back to them leaving spaces open to the public during non business hours
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Somebody should really update MoOT's pictures of Wikipedia.

The current pictures are from June, and a lot of progress has been made since then.
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HighWinds wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 4:39 pm Somebody should really update MoOT's pictures of Wikipedia.

The current pictures are from June, and a lot of progress has been made since then.
I nominate you. :D
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Drove by the tower earlier today. With the core being just 1/2 of the tower's final height, you can really see it starting to make a big impact on the skyline.

It's fun to imagine what DT could look like in just 3 months.
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Some crappy phone pics


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From Union Station parking lot .
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Love the pictures!
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Linkin5 wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 6:52 pm Some crappy phone pics


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This shot gives you an idea of the scope of the land for the Children's museum and The Beam apt building.
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Linkin5 wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 6:52 pm Some crappy phone pics


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This pictures really show just how tall the core is getting.
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Nice pic updates everyone :thumb:

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One from lunch today:

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Brad wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 1:56 pm One from lunch today:

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Love this photo. I have the same one of yours from about 5 years ago hanging on our wall....can't wait for an updated one once Mutual is complete. Already looks way better with the Luminarium in the foreground.

Also, once the steel goes up for Mutual, it will fill in that space from this angle between it and the OWH building.
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I’m Thinking the Mutual tower won’t dominate the skyline like Oklahoma Cities tallest. But instead will appear only slightly taller than FNBO, and when viewed from the west the two may look similar in height and FNBO could look even a little taller. Because of FNBO’s higher elevation. Just a thought I may be way off on this. If this is the case I’m totally fine with it.
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From the highest elevation value at FNBO (1100 ft) to the lowest elevation value on the MoO site (1061 ft), the difference in elevation between the two sites is 39'. The difference in height is +44' Mutual (634'-677'), so depending on where the total height is measured from for either, they will most likely appear to be the same height from most vantage points (minimal difference). Only vantage point that will show MoO as much larger will be looking west through the Gene Leahy Mall, and that is just because MoO is one block closer to the view frame.

*This is the topographic data I used.
https://en-us.topographic-map.com/map-n ... C-95.93491
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arch_RP_planner wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 10:20 am From the highest elevation value at FNBO (1100 ft) to the lowest elevation value on the MoO site (1061 ft), the difference in elevation between the two sites is 39'. The difference in height is +44' Mutual (634'-677'), so depending on where the total height is measured from for either, they will most likely appear to be the same height from most vantage points (minimal difference). Only vantage point that will show MoO as much larger will be looking west through the Gene Leahy Mall, and that is just because MoO is one block closer to the view frame.

*This is the topographic data I used.
https://en-us.topographic-map.com/map-n ... C-95.93491
The topo from the Douglas County GIS shows it a little differently.

https://www.dogis.org/Html5Viewer/?viewer=dogis


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Isn't the height of the building measured from the main lobby floor / first floor? If so FNBO is 1045' and Mutual will probably be around 1038', so only a difference of about 7 feet?
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So either way, they are going to appear very similar in both size and total height.
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So what we're really saying here is we need a 700+ footer.
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arch_RP_planner wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 11:18 am So either way, they are going to appear very similar in both size and total height.
I think where you view them from will make a big difference. Its simple geometry. From the 10th Street Bridge, Mutual will appear way taller, but from Abbott Drive or the Ballpark, they will look a lot closer.
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Brad wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 12:10 pm
arch_RP_planner wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 11:18 am So either way, they are going to appear very similar in both size and total height.
I think where you view them from will make a big difference. Its simple geometry. From the 10th Street Bridge, Mutual will appear way taller, but from Abbott Drive or the Ballpark, they will look a lot closer.

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So basically we are going to have our two tallest buildings will be of very similar height, with the exception of viewing from the east in which case Mutual will appear to be taller. But other locations they will look about the same more or less due to FNBO sitting on slightly higher ground. The Woodmen Tower sits on an elevation higher than both Mutual and FNBO. Thanks for the illustration Brad.
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