Government Controlled Weather

[stormchaser]

Just bumping this up again because apparently it's necessary. I've seen TONS of people online trying to claim what happened in TX with the flooding was "weaponized weather". I just can't understand how people are so easily convinced of something like that and can't be bothered to put even the SLIGHTEST amount of effort into learning about the atmosphere and why something idiotic like that simply isn't currently possible. But this is the world we live in.

[GenX]

I found this thread on X to be a pretty good overview of contrails and bioengineering:

Basically, if they were spraying chemicals at those altitudes, it wouldn't even reach the ground.

[stormchaser]

I found this thread on X to be a pretty good overview of contrails and bioengineering:

Basically, if they were spraying chemicals at those altitudes, it wouldn't even reach the ground.

I agree - definitely some good info.

[Busguy2010]

Although the flooding there was tragic, I don't like how people are searching for somebody to blame. Nobody (obviously) could have predicted the flood would be that bad. Like FR if anybody thinks they could have done a better job of predicting that, then have at it.

For the record, I, in no way believe any natural disaster like that can be caused by deliberate human manipulation. However, I do believe climate change, inadvertently caused by humans, contributes to this kind of event. I just don't want to see every tornado, hurricane, flood, derecho, etc become a conspiracy. That's not even a matter of the fact, its just what some people believe. Its really weird.

[Busguy2010]

I gotta throw my new neighbor under the bus. I don't know him, I don't know what he does, but I know all he does is sit in his garage smoking cigarettes and weed, literally from 6am to 12am.

And now I know he yells at his phone's AI or Google search assistant or whatever ya call it. I heard him yell "What causes the ocean current to reverse!?" And I figured off the bat, ah, that sounds like a conspiracy theory.

Well anyway, i looked into it, and there have been some recent articles on that subject. What I gather is there are scientists who have their eye on ocean currents near Antarctica, but their report was misinterpreted somehow to say that the current reversed, and the crackpots took off and ran with it.

Now, I believe climate change is very real, and I do believe its caused by human industrialization, and maybe it could cause something in the magnitude of altering ocean currents. I imagine if it were to happen, that would have a dramatic effect on global climate.

But for now, it looks like its just a conspiracy.

[ricko]

In the Summer of 1978, I helped put together a high school leadership camp/conference for student council groups from various Catholic high schools in Texas and Oklahoma (I was a teacher at the time). It was held at a Catholic boy’s camp along the Guadalupe River, just north of where the recent flooding took place. Mid-way through the week, a stalled tropical storm dumped over 23” of rain, which led to catastrophic flooding basically in the same area. Luckily, the camp’s buildings were on higher ground, so we were safe, although the spillway that you had to drive through to get to the camp looked like a smaller version of Niagara Falls for a day or so. We did get an airdrop of bottled water from the National Guard, since the camp’s well was run by electricity, and that was out——the camp was surrounded by water. Since this was an era before cellphones/internet, we had no idea what was going on——the landline was the first thing to go. I still don’t know what the death toll was, but I’d heard that several small villages were wiped off the map. Anyway, this was also an era when lunatic conspiracy theories were relegated to people passing out leaflets on street corners or shopping malls, so a small group of people with no influence were making noise. We now live in an era where they can influence millions of people online. Heck, some of them run the federal government now. I’m not trying to be snarky, but when you consider that there are about 10% of the population that suffer from mental illness and character disorders, departures from reality/logic (chemtrails, anti-vax, etc.) shouldn’t be all that surprising.

[Louie]

I gotta throw my new neighbor under the bus. I don't know him, I don't know what he does, but I know all he does is sit in his garage smoking cigarettes and weed, literally from 6am to 12am.

And now I know he yells at his phone's AI or Google search assistant or whatever ya call it. I heard him yell "What causes the ocean current to reverse!?" And I figured off the bat, ah, that sounds like a conspiracy theory.

Well anyway, i looked into it, and there have been some recent articles on that subject. What I gather is there are scientists who have their eye on ocean currents near Antarctica, but their report was misinterpreted somehow to say that the current reversed, and the crackpots took off and ran with it.

Now, I believe climate change is very real, and I do believe its caused by human industrialization, and maybe it could cause something in the magnitude of altering ocean currents. I imagine if it were to happen, that would have a dramatic effect on global climate.

But for now, it looks like its just a conspiracy.

Sounds like the conversation that a lot of climatologists and oceanologists are having around the AMOC. Definitely something that NOAA are watching as it appears to be slowing down over the past hundred or so years. But lots of unknown as to the implications.

[Busguy2010]

Sounds like the conversation that a lot of climatologists and oceanologists are having around the AMOC. Definitely something that NOAA are watching as it appears to be slowing down over the past hundred or so years. But lots of unknown as to the implications.

Yeah, it looks like that's actually what the concern is focused on. It actually sounds legitimate. I read that the currents have reportedly been on a weakening trend, and could altogether cease sometime this century. The potential implications are concerning.

As it pertains to this "ocean current reversal" conspiracy I just learned about yesterday, a new news bit came out debunking the article that circulated social media. And I'm sure there are people holding onto it as a conspiracy... The original report, reported a data trend reversal, which references sea water salinity unexpectedly becoming saltier despite sea water expectedly becoming less salty due to polar ice melting. That in turn would affect the AMOC. But the article circulating social media either accidentally, or deliberately misinterpreted the actual data report. Social media is dangerous.

Though, it has been interesting learning about the ocean currents. I've always been fascinated (and concerned) about the effects of climate change. But as far as the ocean currents having reversed, that didn't happen, and I hope nothing much comes of this conspiracy. But, something just tells me people are going to hold onto it

[GenX]

Sounds like the conversation that a lot of climatologists and oceanologists are having around the AMOC. Definitely something that NOAA are watching as it appears to be slowing down over the past hundred or so years. But lots of unknown as to the implications.

Yeah, it looks like that's actually what the concern is focused on. It actually sounds legitimate. I read that the currents have reportedly been on a weakening trend, and could altogether cease sometime this century. The potential implications are concerning.

As it pertains to this "ocean current reversal" conspiracy I just learned about yesterday, a new news bit came out debunking the article that circulated social media. And I'm sure there are people holding onto it as a conspiracy... The original report, reported a data trend reversal, which references sea water salinity unexpectedly becoming saltier despite sea water expectedly becoming less salty due to polar ice melting. That in turn would affect the AMOC. But the article circulating social media either accidentally, or deliberately misinterpreted the actual data report. Social media is dangerous.

Though, it has been interesting learning about the ocean currents. I've always been fascinated (and concerned) about the effects of climate change. But as far as the ocean currents having reversed, that didn't happen, and I hope nothing much comes of this conspiracy. But, something just tells me people are going to hold onto it

The movie The Day After Tomorrow, is very loosely (with generous creative license) based on the AMOC shutting down. None of the weather in that movie is even remotely plausible, but they’re on the right track regarding the importance that current has on our climate.

[Busguy2010]

Got another conspiracy coming in today. Apparently an AI generated report circulating social media saying that Yellowstone is about to erupt, get out of dodge. Again, another legitimate scientific report transformed into fear mongering click bait.

[Brad]

Got another conspiracy coming in today. Apparently an AI generated report circulating social media saying that Yellowstone is about to erupt, get out of dodge. Again, another legitimate scientific report transformed into fear mongering click bait.

That conspiracy is as old as time… and only got worse once the internet came along.

The USGS does a great monthly Yellowstone update on YouTube with lots of great facts.

[GenX]

Got another conspiracy coming in today. Apparently an AI generated report circulating social media saying that Yellowstone is about to erupt, get out of dodge. Again, another legitimate scientific report transformed into fear mongering click bait.

That conspiracy is as old as time… and only got worse once the internet came along.

The USGS does a great monthly Yellowstone update on YouTube with lots of great facts.

Yellowstone will erupt, the Cascadia earthquake and tsunami will happen, and many other disasters we’re “overdue” for will happen, just (probably) not today or tomorrow. Anything beyond tomorrow doesn’t exist in my mind.

[Busguy2010]

Got another conspiracy coming in today. Apparently an AI generated report circulating social media saying that Yellowstone is about to erupt, get out of dodge. Again, another legitimate scientific report transformed into fear mongering click bait.

That conspiracy is as old as time… and only got worse once the internet came along.

The USGS does a great monthly Yellowstone update on YouTube with lots of great facts.

Yellowstone will erupt, the Cascadia earthquake and tsunami will happen, and many other disasters we’re “overdue” for will happen, just (probably) not today or tomorrow. Anything beyond tomorrow doesn’t exist in my mind.

Oh, yeah, I totally agree itll happen one day. I just find it comical how easily people believe and spread the misinformation so readily on social media. Especially since it was AI generated.

There actually was a recorded change there in recent days that would be worth a red flag.