Mutual of Omaha Tower (14th & Farnam)

[skinzfan23]

Not a big fan of all the gray.

[Brad]

Looks like they're encasing the corner stairwells

Slowly. Not sure if they stopped for a while or it takes a while to install, but they had a couple floors of that on a when I was in the DUO a couple weeks ago.

[GenX]

Looks like they're encasing the corner stairwells

Slowly. Not sure if they stopped for a while or it takes a while to install, but they had a couple floors of that on a when I was in the DUO a couple weeks ago.

IMO, Those stairwells would have looked great if they had used glass instead.

[WiinterU]

Not a big fan of all the gray.

As I stated previously, just like First National Bank Tower, this building is only meant to look good from across the riverfront.

[Stargazer]

Omaha has a long history of buildings that have a 'good side'.

[Garrett]

Not a big fan of all the gray.

As I stated previously, just like First National Bank Tower, this building is only meant to look good from across the riverfront.

FNBT looks quite good from the west as well. Frankly, with how architecture is these days, I think it’ll be the best looking skyscraper Omaha has even if there’s some miracle building boom that leads to a dozen new skyscrapers.

[WiinterU]

First National Bank Tower, in spite of its owners, looks like an art piece. It looks like, had it not been a building, but a sculpture, it would have been at Joslyn already. It looks like an evolution of WoodmenLife Tower. Unfortunately, it's owned by the Lauritzens.

[Cermak]

First National Bank Tower, in spite of its owners, looks like an art piece. It looks like, had it not been a building, but a sculpture, it would have been at Joslyn already. It looks like an evolution of WoodmenLife Tower. Unfortunately, it's owned by the Lauritzens.

Personally as the Mutual tower has gotten closer to being completed I’ve noticed a renewed appreciation for the First National tower for me. It is a beautiful building. Not that the Mutual tower is ugly or anything it to I think is eye catching. In some ways they seem to compliment each other but with First National maybe being the more beautiful of the two.

[Athomsfere]

MoOT is very contemporary. Every city building modern high-rises has one. I'm glad we have it, and a mixed period skyline IMO will always look best.

FNBT is a great mix of styles, somedays it looks straight out of the 1920s and other days the 2020s. And I think because of this, it will define our skyline for decades more. subtly tying the old midrises and the Woodmen to the modern infill like MoOT.

[locoluke]

I personally do not enjoy the appearance of the MoO tower. It's too round.

[WiinterU]

It does what it has to in order to be the tallest. It will always be compared to the Devon Energy Center in Oklahoma City.

[skinzfan23]

I personally do not enjoy the appearance of the MoO tower. It's too round.

Too round? I would actually prefer buildings that all boxy and square.

[Erik]

For me, the MoO building adds to the skyline by having its own style. The glassy, reflective look that often is my favorite.

So i think it looks really good, personally

[Stvbec74]

Mutual of Omaha Tower has curves and to me, that’s sexy!

[Delrey512]

Beautiful sunset image

[Omaha Cowboy]

Great pics guys …

Ciao..LiO…Peace

[Erik]

You wanna know ugly? Those ultra skinny super supertalls are by far the ugliest buildings.

If one ever got proposed here, I would revolt

[WiinterU]

I don't know if we could actually get those anyway. There are a few good spots for a full skyscraper left (2). Other places are complicated, considering that they have a parking garage on site.

[GenX]

I don't know if we could actually get those anyway. There are a few good spots for a full skyscraper left (2). Other places are complicated, considering that they have a parking garage on site.

Just saying, the newest UP, FNBO and MoO sites weren’t vacant before the towers were built… The old Woodmen tower sat on the current State office building site. Just about any site in the city can be redeveloped/further densified.

[WiinterU]

The buildings at UP, FNBO, and MoO were on their way out anyway. However, some of the blocks are either too historic or too new to go. In the future, Holland Center for Steelhouse may have to move. But it feels like we're running out of good blocks for skyscrapers when we aren't always.

[nebport5]

The buildings at UP, FNBO, and MoO were on their way out anyway. However, some of the blocks are either too historic or too new to go. In the future, Holland Center for Steelhouse may have to move. But it feels like we're running out of good blocks for skyscrapers when we aren't always.

In the second part of this post I think there are a lot of good candidates viewtopic.php?p=420097#p420097

[omahahawk]

I guess I'm the exception here but I don't think the back of the parking garage is half as bad as many seem to think. The blue cladding in the middle is cool but I honestly don't think I would want to look at an entire side comprised of that. IDK, just seems like that might be kind of overwhelming, I like the relief and contrast of the grey and blue and the way it is now kind of draws your eyes in and up at the tower itself. I guess I just think it's not necessarily a bad thing to leave some blank space on the canvas.

[Linkin5]

The buildings at UP, FNBO, and MoO were on their way out anyway. However, some of the blocks are either too historic or too new to go. In the future, Holland Center for Steelhouse may have to move. But it feels like we're running out of good blocks for skyscrapers when we aren't always.

I would argue there are a glut of suitable lots for a skyscraper or high rise that are currently occupied by surface parking.

[arch_RP_planner]

The buildings at UP, FNBO, and MoO were on their way out anyway. However, some of the blocks are either too historic or too new to go. In the future, Holland Center for Steelhouse may have to move. But it feels like we're running out of good blocks for skyscrapers when we aren't always.

I would argue there are a glut of suitable lots for a skyscraper or high rise that are currently occupied by surface parking.

Can I add to this? I am tired of full block developments that solely serve the needs of one business... its part of the reason why that specific CBD core is so dead, we have these massive one tenant high rises with no ground level retail or commercial use. The number of 1/2 block lots or smaller available are perfect for mid-rise tower infill (150-350'). There are roughly 5 large blocks (UP, 3 full blocks on the civic site, and the state office building that are primed for large scale development. Berry Law's building just south of the Brandeis Building is a half block plot, would be great for residential/on the streetcar... We don't need every inch of street frontage covered with tenant spaces, but we need to have active spaces incrementally spaced to encourage typical walking/activity...

[TheLaggingNovice]

From the news cam

[Louie]

The buildings at UP, FNBO, and MoO were on their way out anyway. However, some of the blocks are either too historic or too new to go. In the future, Holland Center for Steelhouse may have to move. But it feels like we're running out of good blocks for skyscrapers when we aren't always.

I would argue there are a glut of suitable lots for a skyscraper or high rise that are currently occupied by surface parking.

Can I add to this? I am tired of full block developments that solely serve the needs of one business... its part of the reason why that specific CBD core is so dead, we have these massive one tenant high rises with no ground level retail or commercial use. The number of 1/2 block lots or smaller available are perfect for mid-rise tower infill (150-350'). There are roughly 5 large blocks (UP, 3 full blocks on the civic site, and the state office building that are primed for large scale development. Berry Law's building just south of the Brandeis Building is a half block plot, would be great for residential/on the streetcar... We don't need every inch of street frontage covered with tenant spaces, but we need to have active spaces incrementally spaced to encourage typical walking/activity...

Couldn't agree more. The mono-developments also slow the progress of developing the spaces because it requires massive capital to build out and typically the city has the final say on design.

[Athomsfere]

The buildings at UP, FNBO, and MoO were on their way out anyway. However, some of the blocks are either too historic or too new to go. In the future, Holland Center for Steelhouse may have to move. But it feels like we're running out of good blocks for skyscrapers when we aren't always.

I would argue there are a glut of suitable lots for a skyscraper or high rise that are currently occupied by surface parking.

I agree, there are so many lots or maybe future sublots that could be something. I'd even prefer most of these become midrises over another highrise.

[arch_RP_planner]

The buildings at UP, FNBO, and MoO were on their way out anyway. However, some of the blocks are either too historic or too new to go. In the future, Holland Center for Steelhouse may have to move. But it feels like we're running out of good blocks for skyscrapers when we aren't always.

I would argue there are a glut of suitable lots for a skyscraper or high rise that are currently occupied by surface parking.

I agree, there are so many lots or maybe future sublots that could be something. I'd even prefer most of these become midrises over another highrise.

Funny that you posted this, was doing my own version of this. Using lots of colors here, so bear with me.


Plain Orange: Surface Parking/Parking Structures that are aging/good locations for redevelopment.
Orange with white dots: Parking Structures I anticipate will stay in use and in place.
Red: Open lots/Infill Lots prime for redevelopment
Yellow: Mostly open Lots, minimal demolition of (E) site/structures
Purple: Prime Redevelopment Lots that require more site demolition
Light Blue: Sites/Lots currently under construction/planned
Pink: Civic/Federal Sites that have been rumored to be up for redevelopment (For example, a new combined FDHQ and PDHQ have been rumored, so both of those existing HQs are highlighted. I know there was speculation that the city is considering a new city hall building, and could see them moving operations into the new facility a block south of the courthouse if they rebuild on the same site. I have highlighted both the correctional facility and the Federal Reserve as well, as I believe these two sites are two of your biggest urban void creators; would love for redevelopment on these sites)

In contrast to the previous map, some of the lots highlighted first were increased in size to include the full lot/block section as to maximize redevelopment. This plan was created by looking at the historic properties map of Omaha, and avoids any potential threat of the demolition of historic or protected buildings... You will see existing buildings, primarily highlighted in purple, that in my opinion, whose lots would serve a much better purpose if it were redeveloped. Partly based on the ability to add to the skyline mass, while also created stronger and denser downtown periphery neighborhoods.

Some side notes: Buildings/plots that are split up, like the OWH distribution center, will probably see its end in the next 10-15 years (as paper newspapers are all but dead now), but half the lot is a parking garage, I see the whole lot being prime for redevelopment being so close to the Capitol District/Gene Leahy, but this was just an idea to show to vast amount of space and lot conditions that exist downtown. Another example is the Federal Reserve site... considering that is about 4 full blocks of land (same as Civic Square), taken up by something that has little to no daily activity/public use. I'd love for the reserve to move out to the physician's mutual campus, and then this could become some kind of more contemporary but aesthetically placed mixed use district... would have streetcar stops on either end of the site, and is surrounded by Farnam and Harney... so again, this is to just display more of the existing urban fabric downtown so that hopefully, Omaha's urbanization is done in an ethical, and effective way.

[ita]

The buildings at UP, FNBO, and MoO were on their way out anyway. However, some of the blocks are either too historic or too new to go. In the future, Holland Center for Steelhouse may have to move. But it feels like we're running out of good blocks for skyscrapers when we aren't always.

I would argue there are a glut of suitable lots for a skyscraper or high rise that are currently occupied by surface parking.

I agree, there are so many lots or maybe future sublots that could be something. I'd even prefer most of these become midrises over another highrise.

Funny that you posted this, was doing my own version of this. Using lots of colors here, so bear with me.


Plain Orange: Surface Parking/Parking Structures that are aging/good locations for redevelopment.
Orange with white dots: Parking Structures I anticipate will stay in use and in place.
Red: Open lots/Infill Lots prime for redevelopment
Yellow: Mostly open Lots, minimal demolition of (E) site/structures
Purple: Prime Redevelopment Lots that require more site demolition
Light Blue: Sites/Lots currently under development/planned
Pink: Civic/Federal Sites that have been rumored to be up for redevelopment (For example, a new combined FDHQ and PDHQ have been rumored, so both of those existing HQs are highlighted. I know there was speculation that the city is considering a new city hall building, and could see them moving operations into the new facility a block south of the courthouse if they rebuild on the same site. I have highlighted both the correctional facility and the Federal Reserve as well, as I believe these two sites are two of your biggest urban void creators; would love for redevelopment on these sites)

In contrast to the previous map, some of the lots highlighted first were blown up by me to include the full lot/block section as to maximize redevelopment. This plan was created by looking at the historic properties map of Omaha, and avoids any potential threat of the demolition of historic or protected buildings... You will see existing buildings, primarily highlighted in purple, that in my opinion, whose lots would serve a much better purpose if it were redeveloped. Partly based on the ability to add to the skyline mass, while also created stronger and denser downtown periphery neighborhoods.

Some side notes: Buildings/plots that are split up, like the OWH distribution center, will probably see its end in the next 10-15 years (as paper newspapers are all but dead now), but half the lot is a parking garage, I see the whole lot being prime for redevelopment being so close to the Capitol District/Gene Leahy, but this was just an idea to show to vast amount of space and lot conditions that exist downtown. Another example is the Federal Reserve site... considering that is about 4 full blocks of land (same as Civic Square), taken up by something that has little to no daily activity/public use. I'd love for the reserve to move out to the physician's mutual campus, and then this could become some kind of more contemporary but aesthetically placed mixed use district... would have streetcar stops on either end of the side, and is surrounded by Farnam and Harney... so again, this is to just display more of the existing urban fabric downtown so that hopefully, Omaha's urbanization is done in an ethical, and effective way.

Amazing posts! You folks didn't even touch North Downtown (Lot A, Lot B, Union Stadium site and Gallup Campus/Riverfront Plaza) or Midtown (Turner Park East and MoO HQ redevelopment). In four years, when there is a new mayor in CB, Dodge Riverside Golf Course is a potential site; River's Edge still has some available development sites. There is an incredible amount of development opportunity in the urban core.

[WiinterU]

I've heard the golf course redevelopment is controversial. Many claim it's historic, or that Council Bluffs should focus on actual expansion.

[Louie]

The buildings at UP, FNBO, and MoO were on their way out anyway. However, some of the blocks are either too historic or too new to go. In the future, Holland Center for Steelhouse may have to move. But it feels like we're running out of good blocks for skyscrapers when we aren't always.

I would argue there are a glut of suitable lots for a skyscraper or high rise that are currently occupied by surface parking.

I agree, there are so many lots or maybe future sublots that could be something. I'd even prefer most of these become midrises over another highrise.

Funny that you posted this, was doing my own version of this. Using lots of colors here, so bear with me.


Plain Orange: Surface Parking/Parking Structures that are aging/good locations for redevelopment.
Orange with white dots: Parking Structures I anticipate will stay in use and in place.
Red: Open lots/Infill Lots prime for redevelopment
Yellow: Mostly open Lots, minimal demolition of (E) site/structures
Purple: Prime Redevelopment Lots that require more site demolition
Light Blue: Sites/Lots currently under development/planned
Pink: Civic/Federal Sites that have been rumored to be up for redevelopment (For example, a new combined FDHQ and PDHQ have been rumored, so both of those existing HQs are highlighted. I know there was speculation that the city is considering a new city hall building, and could see them moving operations into the new facility a block south of the courthouse if they rebuild on the same site. I have highlighted both the correctional facility and the Federal Reserve as well, as I believe these two sites are two of your biggest urban void creators; would love for redevelopment on these sites)

In contrast to the previous map, some of the lots highlighted first were blown up by me to include the full lot/block section as to maximize redevelopment. This plan was created by looking at the historic properties map of Omaha, and avoids any potential threat of the demolition of historic or protected buildings... You will see existing buildings, primarily highlighted in purple, that in my opinion, whose lots would serve a much better purpose if it were redeveloped. Partly based on the ability to add to the skyline mass, while also created stronger and denser downtown periphery neighborhoods.

Some side notes: Buildings/plots that are split up, like the OWH distribution center, will probably see its end in the next 10-15 years (as paper newspapers are all but dead now), but half the lot is a parking garage, I see the whole lot being prime for redevelopment being so close to the Capitol District/Gene Leahy, but this was just an idea to show to vast amount of space and lot conditions that exist downtown. Another example is the Federal Reserve site... considering that is about 4 full blocks of land (same as Civic Square), taken up by something that has little to no daily activity/public use. I'd love for the reserve to move out to the physician's mutual campus, and then this could become some kind of more contemporary but aesthetically placed mixed use district... would have streetcar stops on either end of the side, and is surrounded by Farnam and Harney... so again, this is to just display more of the existing urban fabric downtown so that hopefully, Omaha's urbanization is done in an ethical, and effective way.

God, just imagine if the red and plain orange lots were all actually being utilized by residential or commercial buildings. That would be a world of difference.

[Delrey512]

[Delrey512]

I notice some lights on the window sides I wonder if those are going to be LED lights that will light up the building once completed

[Brad]

That will look cool!

[arch_RP_planner]

That will look cool!

I notice some lights on the window sides I wonder if those are going to be LED lights that will light up the building once completed

In Pickard Chilton's main rendering, you can see the LED lights going up on both sides; it'll really help with the aesthetics/make the building feel even that much more modern.

[Brad]

In Pickard Chilton's main rendering, you can see the LED lights going up on both sides; it'll really help with the aesthetics/make the building feel even that much more modern.

I just assumed that was reelection of those angled corners. It should look awesome at night.

[arch_RP_planner]

In Pickard Chilton's main rendering, you can see the LED lights going up on both sides; it'll really help with the aesthetics/make the building feel even that much more modern.

I just assumed that was reelection of those angled corners. It should look awesome at night.

I assumed the same thing, until I saw the photo from last night. The rendering appears to show those bright lines up the tower stopping as soon as it reaches the parking podium, so my guess is that those are in fact the LEDs... I think the lighting will really aid in blending the tower more into the existing urban mass (If you have seen it recently compared to the rest of the skyline massing, the tower is quite large in floorplate, and sorta dwarfs FNBO and Woodmen).

[OmahaOmaha]

https://i.postimg.cc/nLq01251/pickard-c ... 0-grid.jpg

If you look closely you can see the reflection of the Council Bluffs riverfront high rises.

[WiinterU]

I'm confused as to why this section has been labeled as being cleared.

[arch_RP_planner]

Haha, that would be my copy/paste square while making the pdf lol, disregard that.