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Big E,
Here is the deal... the grocery store in Arnold has 6 aisles.... food there is two to three times the price it is in North Platte which is the closest large town. We are pretty spoiled here, you can go to almost any grocery store here in town and find exotic stuff like 4 kinds of lettuce, fennell, or 5 brands of milk or even Soy milk, the people in my hometown can't find that in their local store because it is to expensive for John to carry because there are probably only a few people who are going to buy it. So in that mode are you saying that those people should just do without?
How many of you drive out to Whole Foods to do your grocery shopping? IF you do you are doing the same thing..... you are by passing your local market to go somewhere else because there are things that you want there that you can't get at home.


I think that most of the hometown people buy what they can there in town. My Mom buys all her groceries for the ranch there. She cooks for a ranch with about 6 ranchhands who eat her food daily. She has to go out of town though sometimes to get the things she needs because she can't find them in the grocery store. Does she want to drive those extra miles NO She hates it. But to do her job correctly she needs certain things that John can't get in the grocery store for her. But she and her boss have decided to try to buy as much stuff in town as they can because that is what you do. You buy where you live and work.

My ex husband and I used to work on ranches I have lived in places in Nebraska where I had to drive 50 miles to buy groceries.
THis was waaaaaaay before Walmart even thought of coming to Nebraska. Back in the 70s. Why didn't I buy in the small grocery store in town the closest little town? Because the stuff on the shelves unless it was in a can was to old to eat.


As far as the Walmart on 72nd street, how many of those people in that neighborhood drive to other areas to shop Walmart?
Lots I'll bet, because I never go over to the Walmart nearest to me after 8 am and find an convenient parking place, and it is back to the same old argument... I will drive to your neighborhood to shop but don't you dare think about putting one of those damn things in mine.

BTW The Walmart store in North Platte opened about 6 years ago. That last cafe type business in Arnold closed before that.
I am not trying to offend anyone with this post just trying to state facts.
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I understand exactly what you're pointing out ladyred..

I think most all of us here (myself included) have not lived in the small, isolated town enviornment in which you have..And thus, only comment using the 'on the surface stuff' i.e. 'Walmart moves into a community and drives the local mom-pop shops out of business' (and although I hate to hear of this happening, this is the capitalistic United States..If we dont like it, perhaps we lobby to re-write the US Constitution :wink: )..

I can appreciate that it's a more complex issue than that..

Thanks again for pointing this out ladyred..

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joeglow wrote:
Swift wrote:The people in the area obviously don't want the Walmart, but that doesn't mean it will fail.
-No. The vocal minority doesn't want it.

Like John Stewart said, our country is led by extremists. I cannot afford to take off 2 weeks of work to go to Texas and go on a hunger strike to protest the war. Yet, the freaks who do nothing but that get all the attention and can influence change.
-Did you see the protest they had this weekend? It was 7 people, a combined NONE of which lived in the area. Like I said, vocal minority.
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Yeah I saw them buy their protesting supplies at wal*mart too.
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If the city forces wal*mart to either build a smaller store or not be 24 hrs I foresee them not building there. IMO
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Will wrote:If the city forces wal*mart to either build a smaller store or not be 24 hrs I foresee them not building there. IMO
And no one would shed a tear.
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Can you say lawsuit? :roll:
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My prediction is that it will pass today with no restrictions.
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Brad wrote:My prediction is that it will pass today with no restrictions.
I agree..There is simply not enough sensible opposition to suggest otherwise IMO..

If I'm wrong, I'll run right back in here and admit it :) ..

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Omaha Cowboy wrote:
Brad wrote:My prediction is that it will pass today with no restrictions.
I agree..There is simply not enough sensible opposition to suggest otherwise IMO..

If I'm wrong, I'll run right back in here and admit it :) ..

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Looks like Cowboy and I were right! :wink:

The media made it out to be a big deal, but really there was only a hundread people or so that lived in the area that didn't want it. oh and most of eomaha.com!
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Omaha council OKs concealed-carry law, midtown Wal-Mart
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Brad wrote:
Omaha Cowboy wrote:
Brad wrote:My prediction is that it will pass today with no restrictions.
I agree..There is simply not enough sensible opposition to suggest otherwise IMO..

If I'm wrong, I'll run right back in here and admit it :) ..

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Looks like Cowboy and I were right! :wink:

The media made it out to be a big deal, but really there was only a hundread people or so that lived in the area that didn't want it. oh and most of eomaha.com!
Exactly Brad..And I'm not suprised this passed at all..

Just not enough legitimate support to prevent it..

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What ever happened to this proposal for a WalMart at the Ranchbowl site? Last I can remember, the city and Walmart were reaching some sort of a compromise on design. Needless to say, its been many months since this last made news, and nothing has done yet.

Is it still going to happen, with whatever modifications were being discussed, or did they quietly back down from this site because of community opposition?

Normally, with a big, aggressively expanding company like Walmart, as soon as they get an okay, its steamroll ahead and have construction complete ASAP, so I'm a little surprised here at the lack of any progress.
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Stores like these typically open on cycles. I am guessing they missed the cycle they were shooting for because of all the arguing and thus had plenty of time for the next store opening cycle... They have still been completing some behind the scenes activities in preparation...
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KETV is reporting that work will start on demolition of the old Ranch Bowl within the next month in preparation for the upcoming construction of the Walmart store.

http://www.ketv.com/news/13569761/detai ... d=10102001

Unfortunately, it looks like this won't be a quick process, and that the area may be under construction for quite some time. I believe that the wording was "construction will be well underway by next summer". As this is an awful busy area already, I hope the sewer and roadwork don't mess with 72nd st traffic too badly (although I'm sure they will).
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I'm 23... and I've been to the Ranch Bowl only once. I enjoyed the experience... however, I thought the place was a dump. I am sad to see it go, as it takes away venues for teenagers to go.... as I have noticed they are slowly being reduced. That is just one of my reasons why I don't think this Walmart thing should continue. I would think the City Council would have thought of the interest of the residents of THEIR city. So... take away a venue... put in a venue somewhere else.

I have a couple of questions. Where exactly is the Walmart going on the lot? The piece of land seems very small... esp. to every other Walmart that you drive past. I mean, if you take an already built Walmart from another location and put it on this piece of land, you wouldn't have much parking. I dunno, maybe its me, but the lot seems ultra too small.
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Its going to be on the south east corner of the property facing north.
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It won't look quite as small when a few of the buildings to the north come down this summer. :)
It is a smaller site than they typically build on, however.
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true, but it is squeezed in that site with no green space.
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It meets code. There aren't an awful lot of other new buildings going up with significantly more green area unless they have unbuildable space.
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Demolition Under Way.
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Your last chance to go see the place where Kirk Cobain or Smashing Pumpkins once played!

I bet the building is gone with in the week:
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I just made a blog entry yesterday with a number of photos of the site. I took them about a month ago.

http://omababe.blogspot.com/2007/08/rem ... -bowl.html
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Omababe wrote:I just made a blog entry yesterday with a number of photos of the site. I took them about a month ago.

http://omababe.blogspot.com/2007/08/rem ... -bowl.html
It just makes me miss the Ranch Bowl more. Without the Ranch Bowl and Indian Hills, part of my youth was stolen from me. All those experiences I had as young boy Ill never be able to share with my son.

Someone should buy a bunch of land somewhere and build a Ranch Bowl, Indian Hills and Peony Park. Restaurants could be Fenwicks and Ross' steakhouse. It would be a wonderful place.
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agibson95 wrote:Someone should buy a bunch of land somewhere and build a Ranch Bowl, Indian Hills and Peony Park.
I only got to go to the Peony Park pool a couple times, but it was a one of a kind. More like an artificial lake with a sand beach than a swimming pool! I loved those fountains! :)

(A co-worker tells stories of a troubled, very politically incorrect, time for Peony Park, however.) :(
Restaurants could be Fenwicks and Ross' steakhouse. It would be a wonderful place.
Ross' was great!

Fenwick's? Was this the one on Dodge about 49th? Almost like a retro diner? I'm sure I know it but I can't place it. I
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Omababe wrote:
agibson95 wrote:Someone should buy a bunch of land somewhere and build a Ranch Bowl, Indian Hills and Peony Park.
I only got to go to the Peony Park pool a couple times, but it was a one of a kind. More like an artificial lake with a sand beach than a swimming pool! I loved those fountains! :)

(A co-worker tells stories of a troubled, very politically incorrect, time for Peony Park, however.) :(
Restaurants could be Fenwicks and Ross' steakhouse. It would be a wonderful place.
Ross' was great!

Fenwick's? Was this the one on Dodge about 49th? Almost like a retro diner? I'm sure I know it but I can't place it. I
When I was a kid we would always go to Peony Park for my Dad's company picnic and Ross's for his company dinner. The Peony Park lake and Ballroom are truly missed by this area. Once the city purchased Peony Park, it was known that it wouldnt stay around too long. The keno parlor stayed, but that is it.

Fenwick's was on 49th st and was a Retro diner. They had really good food and a nice atmosphere.
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Here is progress report on the Demolition of the Ranch Bowl and two buildings to the north.

All but the front of the Ranch Bowl is left standing.

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View of the “back” of the front from a block west of 72nd & Hickory Street

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looking north from same spot. Note the two buildings north of Ranch Bowl are nearly gone.

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View from the gas Station. What a view. But how long will it last? Enjoy it.

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View look Northwest from 72nd & Pine. The former Boston Tea Party & Pizza Palace is nearly gone.
The former Communication Company building in back is gone. How long before you see a sea of cars here?
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I drove by tonight and there is almost nothing left of the Ranch Bowl, and there is nothing left of any of the other buildings that were on site.

I must confess, living only 5 minutes from this site, that I will patronize Wal*Mart when it is built. It will be the only supercenter within quite a distance of mid-town Omaha. Sort of a Yin to Aksarben Village's Yang.
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Sad to see Ranch Bowl go, but yes I will use Walmart there ALL THE TIME... too many 2 AM runs I need to make.[/justify]
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Construction well underway:

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The pictures DO the building justice. When you drive next to the thing, its huge. I can't believe they allowed this thing so close to the street. Its massive. I hope to God that they put BIG trees to obstruct the view of this thing.
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You'd prefer maybe a large useless lawn or miles of parking? I will take the building where it is, thanks.
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cdub wrote:You'd prefer maybe a large useless lawn or miles of parking? I will take the building where it is, thanks.
Frack yes. A lawn would be immensely better than a wal-mart.
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Asten wrote:
cdub wrote:You'd prefer maybe a large useless lawn or miles of parking? I will take the building where it is, thanks.
Frack yes. A lawn would be immensely better than a wal-mart.
It will be interesting to see how this works. I am more worried about the traffic in the area than the lawn, but let me tell you, there is not much green space on this project, I am surprised it passed so easily.
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Yes, traffic... I'm a student and UNO and traffic is horrible even at odd hours of the day... I so do not want to go that way when Wal-mart is open... everyone and their idiot mother/father/sibling/etc. is going to be there.

Brings me to another point... I woudn't care if Wal-mart was coming to that site (building on it now), if we had a BETTER public transportation system.

Oh, and another point, might not be for this thread... where is the Business Department of our city? Can we only get Wal-mart to build more stores? We need to start getting other businesses other than retail here in Omaha if we are to be successful... they need to pull their heads out of their behinds.
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Late last Friday morning, March 14, after visiting a friend at The Peter Kiewit Institute (PKI) at UNO, I took few photos of the Wal-Mart Construction.

The Wal-Mart Building is nearly enclosed - First floor that is!

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View of the Wal-Mart's main entrance 'drive’ from the west side of the Pine & 72nd Street intersection.

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This is a portion of the south wall, about a block west of 72nd and Hickory. The east wall of the second level can be seen at left.

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Looking Southeast-East, the view of the Wal-Mart roof and second level construction from the insurance company's west parking lot.

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From the same spot, looking to toward the Northeast, notice the top outline of the Wal-Mart's storefront.

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Last view is from north end of the insurance company's west parking lot. Notice the 'tiny' second lever at right. The store is huge!!

Edited April 1: Now the last two photos are replaced with the correct photo.
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:(

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You can call me a stick in the mud, or even a b*tch, but I just can't get excited about yet another Wally World.

Sorry. :(