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strangerthings wrote: Tue Feb 16, 2021 7:46 pm How do you view those tiny photos? I can't seem to make them work. Have any official streetcar studies been done that extend to the medical school?
The most recently suggested route stopped at 42nd and Farnam, so it reached UNMC. What we are seeing in UNMC's plans is a further extension of the streetcar's west terminus.
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Busguy2010 wrote: Tue Feb 16, 2021 2:13 pm
Athomsfere wrote: Tue Feb 16, 2021 9:56 am I mean, it would be like a 10x capital expenditure. But potentially worth it. (I want a LINK more than a streetcar).
Yeah, light rail is exponentially more practical, but also exponentially more expensive.

I have some hope for a streetcar since some of the big players are in support of it, but no hope for light rail, since there has been very, very little talk of that. But I do always share my Omaha transportation plan every time the thought of it comes up so here ya go:

Omaha Light Rail System Map
https://goo.gl/maps/XhtSban5xyXkYXL26

Always good to keep your dreams alive, some power player might see it and put it on the forefront.
Yeah, everytime I hear streetcar: I just hope it becomes "light rail". And then we run it up Dodge to midtown / blackstone. maybe some of the other hip spots. I know, living downtown I'd use it frequently if I could hit Blackstone, Dundee and 76th/ Dodge.
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On the Grow Omaha show on Saturday, the Mayor was the guest. She talked about the NExT project right at the end of the show. She said that a site would be announced for the new 1000+ bed hospital building in 6 weeks. I thought that was already determined; it will be at the old MMI site? Maybe the announcement will come with renderings? When do we start guessing again how tall it will be?
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ita wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 2:08 pm On the Grow Omaha show on Saturday, the Mayor was the guest. She talked about the NExT project right at the end of the show. She said that a site would be announced for the new 1000+ bed hospital building in 6 weeks. I thought that was already determined; it will be at the old MMI site? Maybe the announcement will come with renderings? When do we start guessing again how tall it will be?
1,000 beds is insanely massive. The 9 story, 460,000 sqft Children's addition added 100. 1,000 beds alone would put it in the top 25 in the US, and would equal the size of Johns Hopkins, and more than double the current 718.
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Garrett wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 3:51 pm
ita wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 2:08 pm On the Grow Omaha show on Saturday, the Mayor was the guest. She talked about the NExT project right at the end of the show. She said that a site would be announced for the new 1000+ bed hospital building in 6 weeks. I thought that was already determined; it will be at the old MMI site? Maybe the announcement will come with renderings? When do we start guessing again how tall it will be?
1,000 beds is insanely massive. The 9 story, 460,000 sqft Children's addition added 100. 1,000 beds alone would put it in the top 25 in the US, and would equal the size of Johns Hopkins, and more than double the current 718.
Actually, the common number I have been seeing is actually 1200 beds. The mayor referenced that number of beds as well. But yes, this thing is massive and I think we are underestimating how tall it will end up being.
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This is potentially huge, I would think at a minimum it would be 8 or 10 floors and possibly more or it could be two towers. This would be a huge plus for Stotherts re-election chances.
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My biggest question about this NEXT project is how they'll utilize the space in non-pandemic times.

Even if they remove the Clarkson tower beds currently in use (as it appears this tower is demolished in the renderings), there's probably 4-500 or so beds in the rest of the Nebraska Med complex (University Tower, Lied Transplant). Clearly 1600+ total beds isn't necessary most of the time. Heck that's probably more than all of Omaha needs most of the time.

Will they just sit mothballed and ready for use in a disaster? Or will they find a way to use this new NEXT space as some sort of a flex design with classrooms/offices/housing most of the time, convertible to patient rooms in times of need?

I know I may be in the minority here, but if they're going to build this complex of buildings just to sit empty 90+% of the time, I'd be against it. Huge waste of both money and valuable space on the Nebraska Med campus...
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Ben wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 9:19 am My biggest question about this NEXT project is how they'll utilize the space in non-pandemic times.

Even if they remove the Clarkson tower beds currently in use (as it appears this tower is demolished in the renderings), there's probably 4-500 or so beds in the rest of the Nebraska Med complex (University Tower, Lied Transplant). Clearly 1600+ total beds isn't necessary most of the time. Heck that's probably more than all of Omaha needs most of the time.

Will they just sit mothballed and ready for use in a disaster? Or will they find a way to use this new NEXT space as some sort of a flex design with classrooms/offices/housing most of the time, convertible to patient rooms in times of need?

I know I may be in the minority here, but if they're going to build this complex of buildings just to sit empty 90+% of the time, I'd be against it. Huge waste of both money and valuable space on the Nebraska Med campus...
Well, the country and Nebraska along with it is aging. We'll need bigger hospitals as time goes on, and there's also just a chance that pandemics are going to increasingly become a part of life.
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Garrett wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 9:29 am
Well, the country and Nebraska along with it is aging. We'll need bigger hospitals as time goes on, and there's also just a chance that pandemics are going to increasingly become a part of life.
In reality, pre-COVID, the trend was downsizing hospitals. So much more is being done outpatient, and there was glut of inpatient hospital beds.

Here in Omaha in the last 5 years, we've seen 250+ beds come out of service with the shutdown of the old Creighton downtown campus. In Minneapolis, multiple hospitals have been closed or will shortly, across several health systems.
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The Boomer generation is so huge and has been aging at the very slow rate of one day per day, so that we have these demographic problems that just linger in the air forever. We've had a huge nursing shortage coming since I was a little kid, and now it's here, but it's also still growing. Same thing is going on with hospital beds, most boomers are not at end of life yet so we don't need all the beds at the moment, but in about 10 years we know we'll start needing a bunch more for a while, then take a massive dive in demand a few years later. Makes planning very tricky.
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Ben wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 9:37 am
Garrett wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 9:29 am
Well, the country and Nebraska along with it is aging. We'll need bigger hospitals as time goes on, and there's also just a chance that pandemics are going to increasingly become a part of life.
In reality, pre-COVID, the trend was downsizing hospitals. So much more is being done outpatient, and there was glut of inpatient hospital beds.

Here in Omaha in the last 5 years, we've seen 250+ beds come out of service with the shutdown of the old Creighton downtown campus. In Minneapolis, multiple hospitals have been closed or will shortly, across several health systems.
Well, a lot of the ones that have been closing are in smaller centers. I think demand for big regional centers like UNMC is growing, while small local hospitals in every small town of 1,000 across the state, or even midsize local ones like Midland in Papillion, are plummeting. UNMC is becoming more and more of a top tier national hospital, and this expansion is more of an assertion of that.
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Garrett wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:50 am
Ben wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 9:37 am
Garrett wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 9:29 am
Well, the country and Nebraska along with it is aging. We'll need bigger hospitals as time goes on, and there's also just a chance that pandemics are going to increasingly become a part of life.
In reality, pre-COVID, the trend was downsizing hospitals. So much more is being done outpatient, and there was glut of inpatient hospital beds.

Here in Omaha in the last 5 years, we've seen 250+ beds come out of service with the shutdown of the old Creighton downtown campus. In Minneapolis, multiple hospitals have been closed or will shortly, across several health systems.
Well, a lot of the ones that have been closing are in smaller centers. I think demand for big regional centers like UNMC is growing, while small local hospitals in every small town of 1,000 across the state, or even midsize local ones like Midland in Papillion, are plummeting. UNMC is becoming more and more of a top tier national hospital, and this expansion is more of an assertion of that.
Here's an article covering some of the megaprojects ($1 billion+) for hospitals across the country. These were all announced prepandemic. UNMC is not on the list, but it would have been the 2nd most costly on this list, based on recent estimates for the project.

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Ha funny how things have changed so much within a year! I think this pandemic that we had is perfect proof why we need UNMC to expand.
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It sounds like they are looking to select a developer this spring.

UNMC hopes to renovate industrial property to create 'innovation hub'
The administrative tower, which also would include a parking structure, would provide up to 350,000 square feet of office space and allow the university to consolidate administrative offices that now are scattered across campus. Some office space also would be available to lease. Also envisioned is some retail or community space.
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The story also mentions that admin tower to break ground in 2022. That is the 350,000 sq ft building paperstacks quoted.
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HR Paperstacks wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 9:07 am It sounds like they are looking to select a developer this spring.

UNMC hopes to renovate industrial property to create 'innovation hub'
The administrative tower, which also would include a parking structure, would provide up to 350,000 square feet of office space and allow the university to consolidate administrative offices that now are scattered across campus. Some office space also would be available to lease. Also envisioned is some retail or community space.
Looks like the same story Channel 7 ran back in January. There is a page and a half of discussion over in the Omaha Steel Castings Thread:
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=620&hilit=castings&start=120
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Brad wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 4:10 pm Looks like the same story Channel 7 ran back in January. There is a page and a half of discussion over in the Omaha Steel Castings Thread:
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=620&hilit=castings&start=120
Yeah, but there's some new details I didn't remember from before like how large the administrative building will be. And now it says it won't break ground until 2022 (they originally said some time in 2021).

Feel free to move these posts over to that thread. I forgot we had a separate thread about that property.
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Mayor Stothert held a joint press conference with Chancellor Gold to announce a pledge of $93million towards the Nebraska Med NExT Project over the next 10 years.

https://omaha.com/news/local/city-of-om ... d8cd3.html
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bldgengineer2015 wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 2:01 pm Mayor Stothert held a joint press conference with Chancellor Gold to announce a pledge of $93million towards the Nebraska Med NExT Project over the next 10 years.

https://omaha.com/news/local/city-of-om ... d8cd3.html
The Civic Auditorium site is just going to be a park n ride to and from UNMC now.
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bldgengineer2015 wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 2:01 pm Mayor Stothert held a joint press conference with Chancellor Gold to announce a pledge of $93million towards the Nebraska Med NExT Project over the next 10 years.

https://omaha.com/news/local/city-of-om ... d8cd3.html
6-8 year project completion timeframe seems shorter than previously reported. Good announcement for the City. UNMC keeps checking off boxes for funding. The federal commitment is big one, but is seeming more and more inevitable.
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Will we have to wait until they get all the funding to see the renderings for the next project or have they not even been made yet?
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I’m extremely happy that the City of Omaha realizes the potential that UNMC brings to the city. This $2.8 Billion dollar project will invigorate midtown Omaha and Omaha’s economy. I’m hoping Nebraska gets picked for the federal program.
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From the W-H piece-

“Project NExT leaders say it would create 8,700 high-paying, permanent jobs and 41,000 temporary construction jobs; generate $38 million in annual state tax revenue; and have a projected total annual economic impact of $1.3 billion after it opens. The complex could serve local patients but be quickly repurposed to caring for victims of pandemics or natural disasters, officials say.”..

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This is just absolutely so awesome. When this was announced I had huge doubts, and was wrong for those doubts, that they would be able to secure the massive amount of funding for this, but the pandemic sure shined the light on the need for a stronger healthcare system.
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Omaha Cowboy wrote: Wed Mar 31, 2021 12:07 am From the W-H piece-

“Project NExT leaders say it would create 8,700 high-paying, permanent jobs and 41,000 temporary construction jobs; generate $38 million in annual state tax revenue; and have a projected total annual economic impact of $1.3 billion after it opens. The complex could serve local patients but be quickly repurposed to caring for victims of pandemics or natural disasters, officials say.”..

Friends- Marinate on this for a moment..

HUGE...

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It really is no wonder OMetro is considering additional BRT routes along the North Beltline and Field Club trail, in addition to a Center-Saddle Creek Route and Maple-Saddle Creek Route that all connect to UNMC with that many potential new jobs. That doesn't include the possible streetcar that showed up in UNMC renderings, which seems closer than before. If UNMC could get 20%+ of those new/current employees to ride transit, it would save them literally millions in parking infrastructure and allow them to maximize every inch of the limited land available to them.

Another amazing point. We have no idea about what the projected west expansion, which includes the admin building and innovation/tech/business hub at the Steel Castings Plant site. I would not be surprised to see that projected investment cost push the total investment at UNMC over $3 billion with the NExT project.
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ita wrote: Wed Mar 31, 2021 9:47 am
Omaha Cowboy wrote: Wed Mar 31, 2021 12:07 am From the W-H piece-

“Project NExT leaders say it would create 8,700 high-paying, permanent jobs and 41,000 temporary construction jobs; generate $38 million in annual state tax revenue; and have a projected total annual economic impact of $1.3 billion after it opens. The complex could serve local patients but be quickly repurposed to caring for victims of pandemics or natural disasters, officials say.”..

Friends- Marinate on this for a moment..

HUGE...

Ciao..LiO...Peace
It really is no wonder OMetro is considering additional BRT routes along the North Beltline and Field Club trail, in addition to a Center-Saddle Creek Route and Maple-Saddle Creek Route that all connect to UNMC with that many potential new jobs. That doesn't include the possible streetcar that showed up in UNMC renderings, which seems closer than before. If UNMC could get 20%+ of those new/current employees to ride transit, it would save them literally millions in parking infrastructure and allow them to maximize every inch of the limited land available to them.

Another amazing point. We have no idea about what the projected west expansion, which includes the admin building and innovation/tech/business hub at the Steel Castings Plant site. I would not be surprised to see that projected investment cost push the total investment at UNMC over $3 billion with the NExT project.
I agree. And these concepts have a better than average chance of becoming reality..

With jobs come opportunity.. Opportunity is a magnet for people.. When we’re talking about growing Omaha the right way..and increasing its amenities..massive developments like this change the game. We’ve got, currently, game changing development downtown in the core with the Riverfront Development Plan, Civic site, North Downtown etc..to see the potential connectivity of that with the NExT project (and everything in between) is exciting..And sets Omaha up as a prominent metropolitan point of destination area for decades to come..Healthy all the way from the core out :thumb: ..

Now let’s get Lanoha on the stick, lol...

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MadMartin8 wrote: Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:31 am This is just absolutely so awesome. When this was announced I had huge doubts, and was wrong for those doubts, that they would be able to secure the massive amount of funding for this, but the pandemic sure shined the light on the need for a stronger healthcare system.
Interesting point there..

I can certainly see one positive that’s came out of this pandemic nightmare is a stronger need for medical intensive developments such as this...

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Omaha Cowboy wrote: Wed Mar 31, 2021 6:54 pm
ita wrote: Wed Mar 31, 2021 9:47 am
Omaha Cowboy wrote: Wed Mar 31, 2021 12:07 am From the W-H piece-

“Project NExT leaders say it would create 8,700 high-paying, permanent jobs and 41,000 temporary construction jobs; generate $38 million in annual state tax revenue; and have a projected total annual economic impact of $1.3 billion after it opens. The complex could serve local patients but be quickly repurposed to caring for victims of pandemics or natural disasters, officials say.”..

Friends- Marinate on this for a moment..

HUGE...

Ciao..LiO...Peace
It really is no wonder OMetro is considering additional BRT routes along the North Beltline and Field Club trail, in addition to a Center-Saddle Creek Route and Maple-Saddle Creek Route that all connect to UNMC with that many potential new jobs. That doesn't include the possible streetcar that showed up in UNMC renderings, which seems closer than before. If UNMC could get 20%+ of those new/current employees to ride transit, it would save them literally millions in parking infrastructure and allow them to maximize every inch of the limited land available to them.

Another amazing point. We have no idea about what the projected west expansion, which includes the admin building and innovation/tech/business hub at the Steel Castings Plant site. I would not be surprised to see that projected investment cost push the total investment at UNMC over $3 billion with the NExT project.
I agree. And these concepts have a better than average chance of becoming reality..

With jobs come opportunity.. Opportunity is a magnet for people.. When we’re talking about growing Omaha the right way..and increasing its amenities..massive developments like this change the game. We’ve got, currently, game changing development downtown in the core with the Riverfront Development Plan, Civic site, North Downtown etc..to see the potential connectivity of that with the NExT project (and everything in between) is exciting..And sets Omaha up as a prominent metropolitan point of destination area for decades to come..Healthy all the way from the core out :thumb: ..

Now let’s get Lanoha on the stick, lol...

Ciao..LiO...Peace
The more I think about the scope of this project, the more I am thinking there are bigger changes in store for the City overall as this is built out.

Dr. Gold recently said that OWH article that the total build out will be 6-8 years after funding is approved. It seem that will happen sooner rather than later.

If they are increasing employment at their campus by 8700 new employees through the NExT project, they are facing are some serious infrastructure issues. I do not believe if all of those new employees drove by car, that area could sustain that amount of traffic. Additionally, as I alluded to above, that's a serious amount of parking. If they projected all of their employees to drive and have at least one parking space per employee, 1) they are going to have some absolutely massive parking garages and 2) it is going to cost a bunch of money.

For reference, I think one of the bigger garages, UNO's Pacific Street garage built in 2016/17, fits a mere 1200 cars. I do not think UNMC wants to too much land they can free up for more parking garages. On the cost front, if we take the oft referenced $15,000 to $20,000 per parking space, it could cost somewhere between $120-160,000,000.00 to build the necessary parking garages (and that assuming 8000 spaces; about 10% of new employees taking alterative transportation, ie. carpool, bike, bus, walk and not considering how much construction costs have gone up). That is a lot of dough.

There are big changes underway. This project is plotting the course of BRT expansion, (for the conspiracy theorists) pushing the urban streetcar project, and (I hope) will accelerate infill development along those BRT and streetcar corridors. 6-8 years is a decent timeline for OMetro and City to get some of these BRT routes and streetcar done. It would seem to me that UNMC and their benefactors might very well be supportive of bus and streetcar development as they have never been before because of the problems they must be considering bringing that many people into that area. Very exciting times for the City.
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ita wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 9:52 am
Omaha Cowboy wrote: Wed Mar 31, 2021 6:54 pm
ita wrote: Wed Mar 31, 2021 9:47 am
Omaha Cowboy wrote: Wed Mar 31, 2021 12:07 am From the W-H piece-

“Project NExT leaders say it would create 8,700 high-paying, permanent jobs and 41,000 temporary construction jobs; generate $38 million in annual state tax revenue; and have a projected total annual economic impact of $1.3 billion after it opens. The complex could serve local patients but be quickly repurposed to caring for victims of pandemics or natural disasters, officials say.”..

Friends- Marinate on this for a moment..

HUGE...

Ciao..LiO...Peace
It really is no wonder OMetro is considering additional BRT routes along the North Beltline and Field Club trail, in addition to a Center-Saddle Creek Route and Maple-Saddle Creek Route that all connect to UNMC with that many potential new jobs. That doesn't include the possible streetcar that showed up in UNMC renderings, which seems closer than before. If UNMC could get 20%+ of those new/current employees to ride transit, it would save them literally millions in parking infrastructure and allow them to maximize every inch of the limited land available to them.

Another amazing point. We have no idea about what the projected west expansion, which includes the admin building and innovation/tech/business hub at the Steel Castings Plant site. I would not be surprised to see that projected investment cost push the total investment at UNMC over $3 billion with the NExT project.
I agree. And these concepts have a better than average chance of becoming reality..

With jobs come opportunity.. Opportunity is a magnet for people.. When we’re talking about growing Omaha the right way..and increasing its amenities..massive developments like this change the game. We’ve got, currently, game changing development downtown in the core with the Riverfront Development Plan, Civic site, North Downtown etc..to see the potential connectivity of that with the NExT project (and everything in between) is exciting..And sets Omaha up as a prominent metropolitan point of destination area for decades to come..Healthy all the way from the core out :thumb: ..

Now let’s get Lanoha on the stick, lol...

Ciao..LiO...Peace
The more I think about the scope of this project, the more I am thinking there are bigger changes in store for the City overall as this is built out.

Dr. Gold recently said that OWH article that the total build out will be 6-8 years after funding is approved. It seem that will happen sooner rather than later.

If they are increasing employment at their campus by 8700 new employees through the NExT project, they are facing are some serious infrastructure issues. I do not believe if all of those new employees drove by car, that area could sustain that amount of traffic. Additionally, as I alluded to above, that's a serious amount of parking. If they projected all of their employees to drive and have at least one parking space per employee, 1) they are going to have some absolutely massive parking garages and 2) it is going to cost a bunch of money.

For reference, I think one of the bigger garages, UNO's Pacific Street garage built in 2016/17, fits a mere 1200 cars. I do not think UNMC wants to too much land they can free up for more parking garages. On the cost front, if we take the oft referenced $15,000 to $20,000 per parking space, it could cost somewhere between $120-160,000,000.00 to build the necessary parking garages (and that assuming 8000 spaces; about 10% of new employees taking alterative transportation, ie. carpool, bike, bus, walk and not considering how much construction costs have gone up). That is a lot of dough.

There are big changes underway. This project is plotting the course of BRT expansion, (for the conspiracy theorists) pushing the urban streetcar project, and (I hope) will accelerate infill development along those BRT and streetcar corridors. 6-8 years is a decent timeline for OMetro and City to get some of these BRT routes and streetcar done. It would seem to me that UNMC and their benefactors might very well be supportive of bus and streetcar development as they have never been before because of the problems they must be considering bringing that many people into that area. Very exciting times for the City.
Just adding 9k employees to the core will undoubtedly bring a bunch of residents east of 72nd.
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I'd expect the med center to partner with some developers to build up a lot of new home options in the area, along with some upzoning by the city.
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Garrett wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 11:22 am I'd expect the med center to partner with some developers to build up a lot of new home options in the area, along with some upzoning by the city.
That I would like to see, especially if OMetro really does build the North and South Beltline BRT routes.
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Louie wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 11:11 am
ita wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 9:52 am
Omaha Cowboy wrote: Wed Mar 31, 2021 6:54 pm
ita wrote: Wed Mar 31, 2021 9:47 am
Omaha Cowboy wrote: Wed Mar 31, 2021 12:07 am From the W-H piece-

“Project NExT leaders say it would create 8,700 high-paying, permanent jobs and 41,000 temporary construction jobs; generate $38 million in annual state tax revenue; and have a projected total annual economic impact of $1.3 billion after it opens. The complex could serve local patients but be quickly repurposed to caring for victims of pandemics or natural disasters, officials say.”..

Friends- Marinate on this for a moment..

HUGE...

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It really is no wonder OMetro is considering additional BRT routes along the North Beltline and Field Club trail, in addition to a Center-Saddle Creek Route and Maple-Saddle Creek Route that all connect to UNMC with that many potential new jobs. That doesn't include the possible streetcar that showed up in UNMC renderings, which seems closer than before. If UNMC could get 20%+ of those new/current employees to ride transit, it would save them literally millions in parking infrastructure and allow them to maximize every inch of the limited land available to them.

Another amazing point. We have no idea about what the projected west expansion, which includes the admin building and innovation/tech/business hub at the Steel Castings Plant site. I would not be surprised to see that projected investment cost push the total investment at UNMC over $3 billion with the NExT project.
I agree. And these concepts have a better than average chance of becoming reality..

With jobs come opportunity.. Opportunity is a magnet for people.. When we’re talking about growing Omaha the right way..and increasing its amenities..massive developments like this change the game. We’ve got, currently, game changing development downtown in the core with the Riverfront Development Plan, Civic site, North Downtown etc..to see the potential connectivity of that with the NExT project (and everything in between) is exciting..And sets Omaha up as a prominent metropolitan point of destination area for decades to come..Healthy all the way from the core out :thumb: ..

Now let’s get Lanoha on the stick, lol...

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The more I think about the scope of this project, the more I am thinking there are bigger changes in store for the City overall as this is built out.

Dr. Gold recently said that OWH article that the total build out will be 6-8 years after funding is approved. It seem that will happen sooner rather than later.

If they are increasing employment at their campus by 8700 new employees through the NExT project, they are facing are some serious infrastructure issues. I do not believe if all of those new employees drove by car, that area could sustain that amount of traffic. Additionally, as I alluded to above, that's a serious amount of parking. If they projected all of their employees to drive and have at least one parking space per employee, 1) they are going to have some absolutely massive parking garages and 2) it is going to cost a bunch of money.

For reference, I think one of the bigger garages, UNO's Pacific Street garage built in 2016/17, fits a mere 1200 cars. I do not think UNMC wants to too much land they can free up for more parking garages. On the cost front, if we take the oft referenced $15,000 to $20,000 per parking space, it could cost somewhere between $120-160,000,000.00 to build the necessary parking garages (and that assuming 8000 spaces; about 10% of new employees taking alterative transportation, ie. carpool, bike, bus, walk and not considering how much construction costs have gone up). That is a lot of dough.

There are big changes underway. This project is plotting the course of BRT expansion, (for the conspiracy theorists) pushing the urban streetcar project, and (I hope) will accelerate infill development along those BRT and streetcar corridors. 6-8 years is a decent timeline for OMetro and City to get some of these BRT routes and streetcar done. It would seem to me that UNMC and their benefactors might very well be supportive of bus and streetcar development as they have never been before because of the problems they must be considering bringing that many people into that area. Very exciting times for the City.
Just adding 9k employees to the core will undoubtedly bring a bunch of residents east of 72nd.
Absolutely.. Adding many more options for urban infill housing..Something that is vital for sustainable Omaha metro health..Within 30 years, there won’t be much room to continue building out in Douglas County..Potential Urban infill projects become almost a necessity even at this point in time..

Definitely exciting times living in the Omaha metropolitan area...

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So, is this the first rendering of the towers planned for the NExT project (this is taken from Project NExT: Transforming Care, Training and Education Response?

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Here is the location per Google maps:

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Is it just me or are they going to be knocking down a lot of buildings? Also, by my count these are 12-13 floor towers.
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I have heard that the MMI/JPLord/Hattie B Monroe complex was slated to be taken down for a patient tower.
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That looks to take down the main emergency medical center building. Unless I am missing something?
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Without having any insider data, I am guessing this is just an initial rendering. I cannot see UNMC taking down the main emergency medical building.
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Big E wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 2:57 pm
bldgengineer2015 wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 2:01 pm Mayor Stothert held a joint press conference with Chancellor Gold to announce a pledge of $93million towards the Nebraska Med NExT Project over the next 10 years.

https://omaha.com/news/local/city-of-om ... d8cd3.html
The Civic Auditorium site is just going to be a park n ride to and from UNMC now.
Based on: " The other infrastructure improvements will be paid for with transportation bonds that will be included in the city's 2021-2026 Capital Improvement Plan, Stothert said." ?

Because that's not how I read that
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Louie wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 9:24 am That looks to take down the main emergency medical center building. Unless I am missing something?
Kind of seems that way on this low-detail rendering. It also looks like the Clarkson Heart Center would be coming down.
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Here is a recent press release from UNMC concerning the 'innovation hub' off Saddle Creed (bold for emphasis):

Saddle Creek development project to transform area
Karen Burbach
Over the next few years, the Midtown community will see the area around Saddle Creek Road and Farnam Street transform into an even more vibrant neighborhood district.

UNMC plans to renovate an historic industrial property on the west side of Saddle Creek into an "innovation hub," where researchers can turn ideas into venture capital, and also construct an administrative building near the southwest corner of Farnam Street and Saddle Creek Road.

"The project will reinvigorate the area, spark future development and provide future campus growth space," said Doug Ewald, vice chancellor for business, finance and business development at UNMC and the University of Nebraska at Omaha.

Developers currently are being sought for both projects with construction expected next year. Meanwhile, the City of Omaha has agreed to develop roads and utility infrastructure, as well as build a parking garage to support activities in the area.

UNMC's plan includes injecting new life into two existing structures that played a historically significant roles in World War II, as well as in Omaha's industrial growth. Campus leaders say they will preserve as much as possible from the historic Omaha Steel Works facilities as they develop the Innovation Hub to house such entities as: UNeMed, UNMC's tech transfer office; UNeTech, which coordinates business startups from UNMC and University of Nebraska at Omaha research; UNeHealth, UNMC's contracting and fiscal arm for industry-funded clinical trials; and the Nebraska Business Development Center.

The Innovation Hub emulates the Cortex Innovation Community in St. Louis, a vibrant, 200-acre hub of business, innovation and technology integrated into the city's historic Central West End and Forest Park Southeast neighborhoods. UNMC's planned development project encompasses approximately 30 acres, the equivalent of 22 football fields.

"The development interest shown for this project reflects the medical center's growing vibrancy," said UNMC Chancellor Jeffrey P. Gold, MD. "We will continue to work closely with the surrounding neighborhoods to ensure that this development is attractive to both current residents and new recruits."

The planned 350,000-square-foot administrative building, which would sit on the west side of Saddle Creek Road, is the equivalent of two Lauritzen Outpatient Center buildings. The new space would provide an opportunity to consolidate office space, and also provide retail or community space. A pedestrian connection across Saddle Creek is planned to move pedestrians safely across the high-trafficked area and onto the med center campus.

"We see development of a mixed-use campus with recreational green spaces alongside restaurants and retail operations," said Brian Spencer, director of facilities & clinical space planning, for Nebraska Medicine and UNMC. UNMC will manage storm water on the site, which should mitigate the area's past issues with flash flooding, Spencer said. The development project aligns with UNMC and Nebraska Medicine's 2030 sustainability goals to reduce emissions, waste and water use.

Meanwhile, Don and Millie's, which has a long-term lease with UNMC, will remain on site for the foreseeable future. In April, UNMC announced acquisition of two properties: 4524 Farnam Street, which includes a building leased by Rathskeller Bier Haus, and a parking lot at 4602 Farnam Street. Rathskeller has a current lease expiration date of May 31, 2031.
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Please don't tell me that they are planning on tearing down 4524 Farnam. That is a beautiful building that was built in 1900 according to the assessor's page.

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