Creighton Basketball 2020-2021

MadMartin8 · Post by **MadMartin8** » Wed Mar 03, 2021 9:54 pm

Honestly, that went about how I thought it was going to go. Mess in the first half, semi decent in the second half, culminating with Villanova being just too talented for the Jays to sleepwalk any period of time against.

I'm not entirely sure what I expect for the remainder of this season (tourney included), but I've adjusted my expectations lower.

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Wed Mar 03, 2021 10:08 pm

MadMartin8 wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 9:54 pm Honestly, that went about how I thought it was going to go. Mess in the first half, semi decent in the second half, culminating with Villanova being just too talented for the Jays to sleepwalk any period of time against.

I'm not entirely sure what I expect for the remainder of this season (tourney included), but I've adjusted my expectations lower.

I honestly didn’t know what to expect..

Like I mentioned in an earlier post game post- the way this game went- first and second half, seemed to highlight the up and down inconsistent play the Jays have displayed through 24 games in 2020-2021..

They have been consistent in one area this season- struggling at the free throw line..

So in the end, the fan in me just wants to see CU finish strong with a home win Saturday vs Butler.. Then whatever happens in the tournament(s)..anything can happen.. one and done, or decent run..but I will not let my hopes get to an unrealistic level..This team is a mystery..

We will see...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

skinzfan23 · Post by **skinzfan23** » Wed Mar 03, 2021 10:19 pm

I don't know what to think about the rest of the season. I think we will find out who really wants to play.

I am optimistic after the 2nd half though that things will be ok...not great but ok. Hopefully still a chance at a Sweet 16.

Cermak · Post by **Cermak** » Wed Mar 03, 2021 10:21 pm

I really think things are setting up for Creighton to part ways with McDermott soon, possibly after The Butler game. The thing he said was so stupid I thought I was reading it wrong when I first saw it. It was just a complete head scratcher to me and shocking. With everything that’s gone on this past year there really is no excuse for those comments. About anyone else would be toast as well and let go. Similar situation to the Iowa football strength coach. Creighton will save its reputation by parting ways with Mac and a new coaching search will begin.

skinzfan23 · Post by **skinzfan23** » Wed Mar 03, 2021 10:35 pm

I believe that Mac, the players and the University are headed in the right direction. I initially thought this would mean his firing but he is sincerely sorry for his words and owning his mistake. If he can continue working on it, I don't think the firing will happen.

I have personally met him a few times and talked with him. He is such a kind man and really does deeply care about everyone. I am sick of everyone calling for his head, like no one else makes mistakes. If this were a theme of his, he would be gone, but I believe this is a one-time deal and hopefully through a lot of forgiveness, hard work and praying they can get through this.

MadMartin8 · Post by **MadMartin8** » Thu Mar 04, 2021 12:28 pm

Looking at TyTy Washington's Dad's twitter, it sounds like we might have a bit of an issue.

Should recruits begin an exodus, it may prove that this situation is, sadly, too toxic. I hope It isn't the case though in the end, but I have a bad feeling.

skinzfan23 · Post by **skinzfan23** » Thu Mar 04, 2021 12:49 pm

Ouch, I was afraid of that. He is our top recruit as well. Hopefully Mac can contact recruits directly and offer an apology and demonstrate that this will never happen again.

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:27 pm

My joy in rooting for teams I love gets slowly squeezed away when events such as what’s happened this week come out..

My NFL team can’t seem to get an agreement in place for a long term contract with their franchise QB. My college football team has been irrelevant for the past 20 years and has went through 5 head coaching changes to try and rekindle past glory.. And now this with the Jays..

I honestly feel numb anymore...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

skinzfan23 · Post by **skinzfan23** » Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:58 pm

Hey try being a Redskins/Washington Football team fan, Chicago Bulls fan and Colorado Rockies fan.
Redskins: change team name, lose Robert Griffin to ACL, can't find another QB
Bulls: lose Derick Rose to ACL
Creighton: lose Mo Watson to ACL, lose last season due to Covid

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Thu Mar 04, 2021 4:35 pm

Same-

Bring a Dallas Cowboys/NU Huskers football fan, the past 20 or so years have been times of irrelevance for both..

I always had the Jays to look forward to..and now this debacle..

I sometimes wish I never grew up with a fan passion for teams..

But it can be a burden we all carry...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

MadMartin8 · Post by **MadMartin8** » Thu Mar 04, 2021 4:37 pm

Football: Detroit Lions
Baseball: Detroit Tigers
Basketball: Creighton

Experience disappointment? I own a vacation home there.

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Thu Mar 04, 2021 5:15 pm

MadMartin8 wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 4:37 pm Football: Detroit Lions
Baseball: Detroit Tigers
Basketball: Creighton

Experience disappointment? I own a vacation home there.

Wow Martin..

Skinz and I shouldn’t be complaining..

...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

Post by **Brad** » Thu Mar 04, 2021 9:32 pm

Suspended...

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Thu Mar 04, 2021 9:52 pm

I’ve got an ever increasing bad feeling about this entire situation..

Worse today than yesterday and the day before...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

Linkin5 · Post by **Linkin5** » Thu Mar 04, 2021 10:01 pm

Really hope for McDermott’s sake he doesn’t lose his job. He seems to be a great guy and this appears to be a mistake and isolated incident. With that said, I’m a white guy and I’ll never know the type of pain a comment like this could cause.

If Creighton does part ways with him who do they bring in? DeVries?

MadMartin8 · Post by **MadMartin8** » Thu Mar 04, 2021 10:02 pm

If they were going to suspend him they should have done it immediately. What a weirdly timed decision, this whole thing just continues to boggle my mind. If they were worried about "optics" then they certainly blew it since essentially the last game of the season means exactly nothing at this point. Edit: I suppose the only thing would be if this continued through the tourney? Is that the plan? Did they want to just wait until the team got back into Omaha for it to all come down?

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Thu Mar 04, 2021 10:08 pm

MadMartin8 wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 10:02 pm If they were going to suspend him they should have done it immediately. What a weirdly timed decision, this whole thing just continues to boggle my mind. If they were worried about "optics" then they certainly blew it since essentially the last game of the season means exactly nothing at this point.

Completely agree.. The suspension should have happened on Tuesday when the sh!t hit the fan.. The decision to do it now adds an additional bad look. There may likely be some internal struggle within the administration on how to handle this incident.. I wonder out loud how the CU basketball program can survive this debacle with Mac as it’s face. I have a growing feeling he will eventually be asked to resign...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

MadMartin8 · Post by **MadMartin8** » Thu Mar 04, 2021 10:14 pm

Omaha Cowboy wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 10:08 pm
MadMartin8 wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 10:02 pm If they were going to suspend him they should have done it immediately. What a weirdly timed decision, this whole thing just continues to boggle my mind. If they were worried about "optics" then they certainly blew it since essentially the last game of the season means exactly nothing at this point.
Completely agree.. The suspension should have happened on Tuesday when the sh!t hit the fan.. The decision to do it now adds an additional bad look. There may likely be some internal struggle within the administration on how to handle this incident.. I wonder out loud how the CU basketball program can survive this with Mac as it’s face. I have a growing feeling he will eventually be asked to resign...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

I have no flipping clue. If they just suspend him for one meaningless game (sadly it is meaningless at this point), then good heavens that'll look toothless, if making an effective punishment 'look' is what they were going for. Also, what about the kids? Was it true that they wanted him to continue to coach? If so, does this punish them with screwing up their season by adding in something else?

Sorry, I really haven't quite gathered all my thoughts on this one. I would have loved to see an announcement about him working with the many strong black leaders in the Omaha community to learn and grow, or donating some of his salary to charitable causes, or something of that sort... you know, something that could be constructive? A suspension right now just seems so weird. Maybe tomorrow my thoughts will come together on this one, pardon for the stream of consciousness.

Post by **Brad** » Thu Mar 04, 2021 10:20 pm

Coach Mac accepts the suspension:

GrandpaaSmucker · Post by **GrandpaaSmucker** » Fri Mar 05, 2021 8:28 am

What this is looking like now is that we have received a sugared down version of the story. Where there is smoke there is fire and we can be almost certain there is more to this then just the "plantation" comment. The players must of complained or have been complaining about racial insensitivity for awhile. They are suspending McDermott for a game to hopefully appease the players and then are going to let him come back.

skinzfan23 · Post by **skinzfan23** » Fri Mar 05, 2021 9:38 am

Again, absolutely stupid to use that phrase, but I am glad of the way McDermott is owning his mistake and maybe can bring about bigger and better thoughts on the topic in the future.

As for his future with the program, he may still be the coach if they are just suspending him. Of course, as mentioned, if it continues to hamper the university's image that could change.

Fort Calhoun · Post by **Fort Calhoun** » Fri Mar 05, 2021 1:54 pm

I agree with Grandpa that there is more to the story. The comments he made preceding the plantation comments about sticking together and both feet in sound like he was frustrated because there is some internal problems on the squad.

GrandpaaSmucker · Post by **GrandpaaSmucker** » Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:45 am

Creighton is a 12 1/2 point favorite playing at home against Butler today. That is a lot of points for a team that has been having issues. If I had to bet I would take Butler and the points. I don't think it will hurt Creighton much not having their coach so I think its pretty much a lock that they win.

Coyote · Post by **Coyote** » Sat Mar 06, 2021 3:46 pm

Villanova 52
Providence 54

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Sat Mar 06, 2021 4:54 pm

Great 1st half by Ziggy,.

The Jays perimeter and 3 point shot game working today..Let’s hope this trend continues..

46-32 CU at the half...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Sat Mar 06, 2021 6:12 pm

Nice Senior Day win for the Jays..who got revenge for their OT road loss to Butler 6 or so weeks ago..

Ziggy ties a career high with 32 points and the Jays breeze to a 93-73 win..

Nice also to see a solid perimeter and 3 point shooting performance..along with keeping turnovers to a minimum and actually improving from the free throw line..

On to the Big East Tournament...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

MadMartin8 · Post by **MadMartin8** » Sat Mar 06, 2021 6:13 pm

They looked pretty good for a team facing the issues they did this week. Curious to see what happens in the Tourney.

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Sat Mar 06, 2021 7:04 pm

MadMartin8 wrote: Sat Mar 06, 2021 6:13 pm Curious to see what happens in the Tourney.

I am as well.. One good sign, and they mentioned this a lot on the radio call, is Ziggy looking like he’s peaking rnow..and right before tournament time..

Let’s hope this carries on to the Big East then the Big Dance...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

MadMartin8 · Post by **MadMartin8** » Sat Mar 06, 2021 7:07 pm

Omaha Cowboy wrote: Sat Mar 06, 2021 7:04 pm
MadMartin8 wrote: Sat Mar 06, 2021 6:13 pm Curious to see what happens in the Tourney.
I am as well.. One good sign, and they mentioned this a lot on the radio call, is Ziggy looking like he’s peaking rnow..and right before tournament time..

Let’s hope this carries on to the Big East then the Big Dance...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

Also curious on if they look good in the Tourney, would Mac even be back? Or do they continue with Huss? Curious times, they looked loose and like they were zeroed in tonight.

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Sat Mar 06, 2021 7:17 pm

MadMartin8 wrote: Sat Mar 06, 2021 7:07 pm
Omaha Cowboy wrote: Sat Mar 06, 2021 7:04 pm
MadMartin8 wrote: Sat Mar 06, 2021 6:13 pm Curious to see what happens in the Tourney.
I am as well.. One good sign, and they mentioned this a lot on the radio call, is Ziggy looking like he’s peaking rnow..and right before tournament time..

Let’s hope this carries on to the Big East then the Big Dance...

Ciao..LiO...Peace
Also curious on if they look good in the Tourney, would Mac even be back? Or do they continue with Huss? Curious times, they looked loose and like they were zeroed in tonight.

Yeah..That’s definitely the great unknown.. Hard to even predict what the University administration will do.. My instinct tells me they keep everything as is..but nothing will surprise me anymore moving forward...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

MadMartin8 · Post by **MadMartin8** » Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:33 pm

Pretty powerful statement from Zegarowski tonight as well that was, thankfully picked up by some national talking heads.

Post by **Brad** » Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:25 pm

The guys after the game mentioned the team is leaving for New York tomorrow or Monday for Covid Reasons. They thought we might know tomorrow if Mac is making the trip.

skinzfan23 · Post by **skinzfan23** » Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:01 pm

Great win after this past week. Hopefully they can carry the momentum into NY and also the NCAA tournament as well.

jag42 · Post by **jag42** » Sun Mar 07, 2021 7:36 am

Maybe it's just me, but I found it very telling in the pregame video, no mention of forgiveness, or yeah, he made a stupid mistake, we accept his apology. None of that. I mean, Coach McD. owned it right away, and did NOT give the half hearted apology that is usually heard, "IF I offended anyone, I apologize..."

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Sun Mar 07, 2021 7:46 pm

It’ll be interesting, also, to see the Jays final regular season AP ranking..

I’m thinking they’ll land 16th or 17th..and maybe a notch or so higher in the coaches poll...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

Coyote · Post by **Coyote** » Sun Mar 07, 2021 9:39 pm

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skinzfan23 · Post by **skinzfan23** » Mon Mar 08, 2021 9:17 am

Great win on Saturday to avoid our first 3 game skid in 3 years. If the Jays can play with that same intensity for a few more games, the Sweet 16 is a possibility. The ball movement was crisp and Zegarowski took over.

skinzfan23 · Post by **skinzfan23** » Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:16 pm

Jays are #17 in AP poll.

Coyote · Post by **Coyote** » Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:30 pm

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skinzfan23 · Post by **skinzfan23** » Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:31 pm

Crazy that Ohio St has lost 4 in a row and is still in the Top 10. Granted 3 were to other Top 10 teams, but that still seems crazy.