After years of decline, Omaha is on the upswing, according to US Census figures, drawing in young professionals eager for walkable neighborhoods and a more urban lifestyle. The new RiverFront Omaha is a big draw, combining three public parks into one with amenities like a sculpture garden, interactive water features and a dog park. In Omaha, you’ll find world-class works of art, including Monets and Renoirs, at the Joslyn Art Museum. This mid-size city is also home to the Henry Doorly Zoo, which consistently ranks among the top zoos in the world.
Garrett wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 5:02 pm
Years of decline? Maybe 30 years ago?
And now that I’ve skimmed it, what a shitty list. Listing both KCMO and Overland Park as different cities?
Agreed..
Decline for Omaha? Perhaps in the 1980’s..but I wouldn’t call the 1980’s for Omaha as a decline period- “stagnant” would be a better description..
And the list of cities is pretty questionable..another beard scratcher…
Garrett wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 5:02 pm
Years of decline? Maybe 30 years ago?
And now that I’ve skimmed it, what a shitty list. Listing both KCMO and Overland Park as different cities?
Agreed..
Decline for Omaha? Perhaps in the 1980’s..but I wouldn’t call the 1980’s for Omaha as a decline period- “stagnant” would be a better description..
And the list of cities is pretty questionable..another beard scratcher…
Ciao..LiO…Peace
I dunno…when I think of “mid sized cities”, I think of………Minneapolis?
Yeah…..probably should have used the metro area populations…..
Garrett wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 5:02 pm
Years of decline? Maybe 30 years ago?
And now that I’ve skimmed it, what a shitty list. Listing both KCMO and Overland Park as different cities?
Agreed..
Decline for Omaha? Perhaps in the 1980’s..but I wouldn’t call the 1980’s for Omaha as a decline period- “stagnant” would be a better description..
And the list of cities is pretty questionable..another beard scratcher…
Ciao..LiO…Peace
I dunno…when I think of “mid sized cities”, I think of………Minneapolis?
Yeah…..probably should have used the metro area populations…..
Definitely would have been a cleaner sample size if they went mid size metros from 750k to 1.5 mill in population…
Overland Park is 20 minutes south of Kansas City? Did they crawl?
Most other cities would get a hard on with Omaha's "decline". Decline? DECLINE? Gimme a break. Here in metro Detroit they know a thing or two about decline. Now THIS is an area that suffered a decline. Omaha? Not even close.
This is a list of mid-sized cities? Ok. So is there a wall around Kansas City? Which one? Tampa has a metro of over 3 million. Minneapolis, 3.69 million. KC, a little less than 2.4 million.
Athomsfere wrote: Fri Nov 03, 2023 1:43 pm
It's like it's the authors first paper out of college and they know nothing of how US cities actually work and are talked about.
Nope. I did a little digging. "Erin Gifford is a hiker, a writer, and a mother of four children. She enjoys road trips, national parks, backpacking, and running half-marathons. Find her at www.eringifford.com."
Cermak wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 1:09 am
No way is Minneapolis a mid sized city, they are a large city. This is a strange article like it was written by a child.
But if you are a terrible reporter and look up Minneapolis, it's smaller than Omaha.
Athomsfere wrote: Fri Nov 03, 2023 1:43 pm
I mean OKC only belongs on a top 10 worst cities... But then again I feel the same about KC.
Most of this list, just sorta weird.
I thought OKC was better than Tulsa but yikes, it's not a compliment to be in the 10 worst cities.
Those Florida listed cities are majorily just palm decorated strip malls, no thanks.
OKC I'd rank under Tulsa, personally. About half as dense, and both downtowns are filled with parking lots next to high rises.
OKC is growing and has some good plans, but for now, I'd call it at the very bottom. No amount of water taxis or Asian districts can fill the lifeless built environment without first addressing the lowest of fruit rotting on the vine.
Bob from Omaha wrote: Fri Nov 03, 2023 12:48 am
Overland Park is 20 minutes south of Kansas City? Did they crawl?
Most other cities would get a hard on with Omaha's "decline". Decline? DECLINE? Gimme a break. Here in metro Detroit they know a thing or two about decline. Now THIS is an area that suffered a decline. Omaha? Not even close.
This is a list of mid-sized cities? Ok. So is there a wall around Kansas City? Which one? Tampa has a metro of over 3 million. Minneapolis, 3.69 million. KC, a little less than 2.4 million.
Some list.
Yeah this article was impossible to take seriously. You absolutely need to go by Metro populations. Tampa, KC and Minneapolis are too big for this list (and just idiotic to view Overland Park separate from KC).
Athomsfere wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 1:55 pm
OKC I'd rank under Tulsa, personally. About half as dense, and both downtowns are filled with parking lots next to high rises.
OKC is growing and has some good plans, but for now, I'd call it at the very bottom. No amount of water taxis or Asian districts can fill the lifeless built environment without first addressing the lowest of fruit rotting on the vine.
You could almost fit Omaha and Lincoln in a circle the size of OKC's footprint. We'd have their population and density then I guess.
I have never visited OKC but have visited Tulsa plenty; I had expectations that OKC would be better than Tulsa, as it is the state capital. If OKC is a worser version of Tulsa, I would only visit to observe their urban "innovations" of what Omaha should not do.
So Devon tower is really a case of phallic display but surrounded by grey parking lots, looks like Tulsa on steroids
As I say so myself, skyscrapers don't matter; if the surrounding urban environment is asphalt grey and the area is hostile to pedestrians.
Regarding the geographic area, probably both Omaha and Lincoln Proper could fit within Tulsa, as Tulsa proper is 66% larger than Omaha; despite Tulsa being of the same in population and comparable age to Omaha.
Athomsfere wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 1:55 pm
OKC I'd rank under Tulsa, personally. About half as dense, and both downtowns are filled with parking lots next to high rises.
OKC is growing and has some good plans, but for now, I'd call it at the very bottom. No amount of water taxis or Asian districts can fill the lifeless built environment without first addressing the lowest of fruit rotting on the vine.
You could almost fit Omaha and Lincoln in a circle the size of OKC's footprint. We'd have their population and density then I guess.
I have never visited OKC but have visited Tulsa plenty; I had expectations that OKC would be better than Tulsa, as it is the state capital. If OKC is a worser version of Tulsa, I would only visit to observe their urban "innovations" of what Omaha should not do.
So Devon tower is really a case of phallic display but surrounded by grey parking lots, looks like Tulsa on steroids
As I say so myself, skyscrapers don't matter; if the surrounding urban environment is asphalt grey and the area is hostile to pedestrians.
Regarding the geographic area, probably both Omaha and Lincoln Proper could fit within Tulsa, as Tulsa proper is 66% larger than Omaha; despite Tulsa being of the same in population and comparable age to Omaha.
I mean, draw a circle in a field of corn somewhere between Omaha and Lincoln. Make the circle big enough to encompass both Omaha and Lincoln, and you have OKC.
Nearly at least.
Below compared: 30 miles radius from Downtown OKC and on the right Ashland with a 30 mile radius
Yikes! my eyes hurt just looking at that circle that encompasses both of our more compact metros.
If Tulsa was the best of what Oklahoma could be, I don't want to visit OKC.
I would of used MapFrappe for that, but it looks like the website is closed now. Still your method works well too.
Maybe 30 years ago?
