Target at Crossroads

scraper · Post by **scraper** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 2:34 pm

I think it is official that Target is going into the old Younkers at Crossroads. In the Building Permits section of today's OWH, Target has an interior remodel permit for 7200 Dodge.

Big E · Post by **Big E** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 2:57 pm

Glad to see the space is going to be used.

How much does this affect the plausibility of the Omaha by Design vision for the mixed use development in that area? I realize that the project - as envisioned - was likely a pipe dream, but that doesn't mean the concept couldn't live on.

-Big E

nebrwesleyan · Post by **nebrwesleyan** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 5:27 pm

This is great news. A little off topic, but in the same section there is a permit for "Oak View Plaza North, 3103 Oak View Drive, interior remodel, $500,000". Where is this? Is this the old best buy?

Coyote · Post by **Coyote** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 11:12 pm

nebrwesleyan wrote:This is great news. A little off topic, but in the same section there is a permit for "Oak View Plaza North, 3103 Oak View Drive, interior remodel, $500,000". Where is this? Is this the old best buy?

The former Best Buy was listed as 3425 Oak View Dr. - 3103 is Petsmart

eomaha · Post by **eomaha** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 11:28 pm

It is actually pretty amazing that Crossroads is 44 years old. I don't think there are too many enclosed malls around, which are this old and still have some of the tenants Crossroads has. Simon hasn't done too bad a job keeping it updated. This part of town could actually benefit more from a Target than a Younkers.

Omaha World Herald wrote:
Target still won't tell plans at Crossroads

Target isn't talking about a building permit it obtained for an estimated $2.8 million in renovation at 72nd and Dodge Streets.

Phone calls to Target were not returned Monday.

A spokeswoman for Simon Property Group of Indianapolis, which owns Crossroads Mall, declined to comment on whether Target plans to locate to the mall in the space formerly occupied by Younkers.

"I really can't confirm anything," said Billie Scott of Simon Property Group. "When we're working with a tenant to potentially come to the center we defer to whatever tenant that might be to make their own announcement. . . . That is our policy in deference to our department stores and other major retailers."

In March 2004, Aimee Sands, a spokeswoman for the Minneapolis-based chain of discount department stores, said Target was considering a store at the Crossroads.

Target has seven stores in the Omaha-Council Bluffs metro area. The closest to Crossroads is at 360 N. Saddle Creek Road.

A spokeswoman for the City of Omaha Building Department said Monday that no paperwork regarding the building permit was on file because it had been sent out of the office for microfilming. She said she didn't know when the permit was obtained.

Younkers, one of the anchors of the 44-year-old mall, closed in January. The other anchor stores are Dillard's, which has been at Crossroads since a major remodeling project in the summer of 1988, and Sears, one of the original stores.

The future of Sears is uncertain due to the recent merger of its parent company with Kmart. Officials of the newly formed company have said they may emphasize stand-alone stores rather than mall locations.

Several mall tenants next to the former Younkers space said they have been told they would be relocating. Among the businesses are G I Tailors & Cleaners and Regis Salon.

A U.S. Postal Service station also is located in the area. Calls to the Postal Service's media relations office in Omaha seeking comment on the possibility of the station's relocating were not returned Monday afternoon

Post by **Brad** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 11:35 pm

I noticed that on the east side of the old younkers building there is about 3 or 4 what looks to be some kind of HVAC units on the ground and one "storage" truck. I thought it was going to be more than an "inside remodel"

As far as the petsmart at oakview, what is by the old nave, petsmart or pet co.

UNOstudent · Post by **UNOstudent** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 12:55 am

as for target, my friend told me that they are tearing parts, if not all, of younkers down, but we'll see what happens

Greg S · Post by **Greg S** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 9:46 am

It seems like talk is centered on a Target going there. I wish it was a Super Target, or their Greatland Target store. The paper makes it seem more like an interior remodel but if they are moving the neighboring tenants that sounds more like a full scale rebuild to me.

Raraavis · Post by **Raraavis** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 10:45 am

It seems like they may be building a one level store. I still believe that it will be a Super Target.

Ingersoll1978 · Post by **Ingersoll1978** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 11:12 am

Well if the Target under construction at Merle Hay in Des Moines is any indication...it is a regular Target as far as we know. They also tore out a two story Younkers (it moved to the Famous Barr location at the mall) and replaced it with a one level store which is supposed to open later this summer.

nativeomahan · Post by **nativeomahan** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 6:51 pm

Channel 6 reported that once Target opens at Crossroads in the summer of 2006, their Saddle Creek store will close. Inevitable, I suppose, but a blow for that neighborhood. Maybe Shopko could go in on Saddle Creek.

DTO Luv · Post by **DTO Luv** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 7:12 pm

DTO Luv · Post by **DTO Luv** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 7:12 pm

DTO Luv · Post by **DTO Luv** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 7:15 pm

I saw that too. I say tear it down and rebuild a mixed use living/retail center.

OmahaDevelopmentMan · Post by **OmahaDevelopmentMan** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 7:27 pm

Man DTO, you must really want that if you cared enough to post it not 1 not 2 but 3 times.

DTO Luv · Post by **DTO Luv** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 7:56 pm

I hate when that happens.

Coyote · Post by **Coyote** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 10:28 pm

Well DTO - part of Crossroads will be demolished.

OWH wrote: Target to build at Crossroads, close Saddle Creek store

Target Stores Inc., will demolish the former Younkers space at Crossroads Mall and build a 116,000-square-foot store that is scheduled to open in summer 2006.

The Target at 360 N. Saddle Creek Road - the company's first store in Nebraska - will close when the new store opens, a company spokewoman said Tuesday.

Demolition of the former Younkers, on the southeast end of Crossroads at 72nd and Dodge Streets, will start "fairly shortly," said Aimee Sands, spokeswoman for the Minneapolis-based retailer.

The discount retailer has obtained a building permit for an estimated $2.8 million in renovations at the 44-year-old shopping mall.

Sands said she did not have specific details on the construction schedule.

"We're still pretty far out," Sands said. "Many details about the project are still being worked out."

Among those details are whether the store would have more than one level and be accessible from the mall.

The Crossroads store will be a traditional Target, as opposed to a SuperTarget, but a new prototype, Sands said. It will have an expanded grocery section, a mother-and-baby department and an "entertainment destination" featuring electronics, sporting goods, toys, books, movies and music.

The new store will be more accessible and easier for customers to shop in, Sands said.

"We want to present our guests with a fresh design and great shopping experience."

Target has seven stores in the Omaha-Council Bluffs metro area.

The 125,000-square-foot Saddle Creek store was the retailer's entry into the Omaha and Nebraska market when it opened in April 1972.

Younkers, which had 204,000 square feet of space, closed in January. It was one of the original anchors of the mall. The remaining anchor stores are Dillard's, which has been at Crossroads since a major remodeling project in the summer of 1988, and Sears.

eomaha · Post by **eomaha** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 10:31 pm

Sounds like a single story store... albeit with a new format.

Coyote · Post by **Coyote** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 10:37 pm

jhuston wrote:Sounds like a single story store... albeit with a new format.

Yeah - moving a 125k building into a new 116K building after demolishing a 204K building. "Among those details are whether the store would have more than one level and be accessible from the mall." And it might not be accessible from the Mall. This is not good news. This is a major disappointment.

eomaha · Post by **eomaha** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 10:54 pm

It's disappointing they're closing the Saddle Creek location (how long will that Panera hang around under those cirumstances?). Hopefully another retailer, say Shopko, will fill the void. You talk about your absence of a downtown retailer... how about nothing east of 72nd? I think it's time the city of Omaha start looking seriously at Destination Midtown not so much in terms of privately funded, visual aesthetics now... but in terms of publicly funded, economic revitalization. It's time to start putting those Elkhorn property taxes to good use.

I'm not really too bothered by the single story Target thing... and I would be HIGHLY surprised if they didn't make it accessible to the mall... they'd be missing out on considerable foot traffic. What advantages would there be in not making it accessible??

Golden Eagle · Post by **Golden Eagle** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 10:59 pm

UNOstudent wrote:as for target, my friend told me that they are tearing parts, if not all, of younkers down, but we'll see what happens

Target was going to move into an old, historic building here in Uptown Dallas, yet thanks to swift but sure community involvement that fell through. They too were going to demolish it for their McSupercenter.

flyOMA · Post by **flyOMA** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 11:30 pm

(They might as well use the wrecking ball on the rest of Crossroads, so much for the idea of something unique and appealing...)

I am curious to see what this new "prototype store" consists of. I am really disappointed at the prospects of this being a single level Target...Especially after seeing the appeal of the multiple-level Target in downtown Minneapolis. But, I am sure it will fit right in with the eye-candy that the 72nd & Dodge corridor provides (50ft rusting store signs, billboards, and miscellaneous parking lots - paved and gravel). Omaha by Design is correct. For being our main "drag", the Crossroads area doesn't leave a very impressive image of our city, the use of land between 84th and 72nd is absolutely atrocious. That is a different topic, however. ;)

DTO Luv · Post by **DTO Luv** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 11:43 pm

I was looking forward to a multi-level Target. How the heck could it not be accessible to the mall? CB's is at Mall of the BLuffs.

It's disappointing they're closing the Saddle Creek location (how long will that Panera hang around under those cirumstances?). Hopefully another retailer, say Shopko, will fill the void. You talk about your absence of a downtown retailer... how about nothing east of 72nd? I think it's time the city of Omaha start looking seriously at Destination Midtown not so much in terms of privately funded, visual aesthetics now... but in terms of publicly funded, economic revitalization. It's time to start putting those Elkhorn property taxes to good use.

Some dumb |expletive| was on the news today talking about how this was good for the "Midtown" (cuz that's what 72nd & Dodge is

). If you live east of 72nd there really aren't that many places to shop anymore. There are a few that come to mind but nothing like what's going on out west. THe city should step up and do something about getting the inner city more retail options and residents or we'll end up with a shitty inner city that really will be the "ghetto" some people think it is.

UNOstudent · Post by **UNOstudent** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 9:38 pm

i asked my friend today and he said it will be a 2 story target

DTO Luv · Post by **DTO Luv** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 10:50 pm

On Fox news they talked with a lady from the Destination Midtown group and she was saying they would like to get another grocery store or everday retailer in the area. She was alos hopefull that the area wouldn't sit empty long because it's in a good location.

Blazepaw · Post by **Blazepaw** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 11:18 pm

We need only look east to see what a Target conected to a mall looks like... Mall of the Bluffs.

Of course they will conect to the mall. Traffic is too important to cut it off like a stand alown store.

They are moving into a three story space. The second story is barely connected to the second level. I dought we will see two levels.

Some offices but centraly located storage looks smart.

MTO · Post by **MTO** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 11:23 pm

If its not one of those fancy two story ones, I will pray every day that they go out of business and loose millions in investments while they go down. They need to rebuild that hole area anyway, right Omaha by Design?

Blazepaw · Post by **Blazepaw** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 11:23 pm

As for the old store on Saddle Creek? Albertsons dominates that end... If I was Home Depot or Menards I would be thinking open market in a fixup district...

Blazepaw · Post by **Blazepaw** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 11:34 pm

It would kill Ace Hardware, but really both Home Depot and Menards could take Target and Ace over.

The closest compeditor would be Lowes... that location could go down with a Saddle Creek location... Older neiborhoods win in that race.

Swift · Post by **Swift** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 11:39 pm

Let's get a TRADER JOES!!!!!!!!!

Anyway.....Minneapolis (Target's home town) has at least one multi story target in the downtown area, so hopefully they'll do the same at Crossroads. I would think they need to as I can't really imagine anyway that they could build a one story building there.

Blazepaw · Post by **Blazepaw** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 11:40 pm

The Saddle Creek trade off could in the end be good for both areas... except what fills Lowes... a Really Big Starbucks? Hmmm.... A sad Genn X? LOL

DTO Luv · Post by **DTO Luv** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 11:40 pm

I know they will need to fill the void with a larger retail stoe but I would like to see some attention given to make it a neighborhood center.

Swift · Post by **Swift** » Fri Apr 08, 2005 12:03 am

blazepaw I'm not quite sure what language you are speaking!

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Fri Apr 08, 2005 12:34 am

This all makes perfect sense to me..

Open a Best Buy at VP (168th and Dodge) and close the Oak View BB approx 6 miles away (even further for the Best Buy-less Sarpy county residents..at least for now until the Promenade project is completed)..

Open a Target at Crossroads and close the Saddle Creek Store..Make people living on N 30th-42nd street drive 5+ more miles..

Honestly, who does the market analysis for these 'big box' stores as it relates to the Omaha metro..A pre-school graduate??..

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..Ciao..LiO....Peace

UNOstudent · Post by **UNOstudent** » Fri Apr 08, 2005 1:38 am

i think that w/ the saddle creek target closing, that makes a DT target a more strategic location especially w/ creighton and more residents moving/living down there. you can say what you want to say, but my friend told me that target was looking at a spot in DT omaha (between the Q and CU), but they wanted to wait for more residents and better financial incentives before building a store there.

Greg S · Post by **Greg S** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 10:38 am

How about Saddle Creek records taking over that sight? It's not too far from the other location, and has more parking.

Greg

icejammer · Post by **icejammer** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 11:29 am

Omaha Cowboy wrote:This all makes perfect sense to me..

Open a Best Buy at VP (168th and Dodge) and close the Oak View BB approx 6 miles away (even further for the Best Buy-less Sarpy county residents..at least for now until the Promenade project is completed)..

Lucky for (some) Sarpy residents, the new Best Buy in CB is closer than even the Oak View store was.

Sodak · Post by **Sodak** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 3:20 pm

I'm betting that Best Buy will open a store in Papillion Promenade. It makes a lot of sense, with the relocation of the Oakview store to Village Pointe. Plus, RED is/was involved in both lifestyle centers.

Post by **Brad** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 2:41 pm

Greg Wrote:

How about Saddle Creek records taking over that sight? It's not too far from the other location, and has more parking.

That is a great Idea for saddle creek records.

Midtown still needs some more shopping. I know its not enought land but its a start. When Commercial Federal moves out west I think they might be vacating the older of their two buildings. Tear down that eyesore and aquire another ajacent pice of property and build a new target, or gordmans.

Also there is a large empty lot about 40th and dodge next to the closed up travel inn. tear down that eyesore and put a department store there. Those two pices of land are about 1 city block.

UNOstudent · Post by **UNOstudent** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 11:35 pm

ive heard the old comfed buildings, well the land, are going to unmc