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Big E wrote:
Omababe wrote:Omaha has not seen serious transit for 50 years, that's two generations of private car inbreeding.
I might have gone with ingraining, but your way is so much funnier. :;):

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Oh, I meant it the way I said it, implying that the Soccer Moms and the SUV Dads both have the dominant gene! :)
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Well looking at those stories, cross your fingers to see it and the bike racks about March 2010. Seriously though, hopefully they get this going now.
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Omababe wrote:
thenewguy wrote:The crazies i'm talking about are the kind that sit there, rocking back and forth talking to themselves. Or sitting on the bench waiting for the bus, searching for smoked cigarette butts on the ground to light up...or the kind that wheel around a duffle bag full of bottles, coats, and whatever else they have, ...
In the Omaha area, you do get a concentration of those with no other transportation options on the bus, the near-homeless, the near-destitute, wandering poor, etc.

Why?

Those of means just don't take the bus, in Omaha that is.

In larger cities, as somebody just said, everybody rides, and no segment of society stands out as the stereotypical bus rider.

Here, the average middle-class gainfully-employed person who regularly rides the bus is the exception and not the rule. Most of them take their cars, or pickup trucks, or SUVs! It's very much a car culture here. Omaha has not seen serious transit for 50 years, that's two generations of private car inbreeding.

Oh well ...
I'd say that's true except for the #2 between downtown and UNO.
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Swift wrote:
Omababe wrote:
thenewguy wrote:The crazies i'm talking about are the kind that sit there, rocking back and forth talking to themselves. Or sitting on the bench waiting for the bus, searching for smoked cigarette butts on the ground to light up...or the kind that wheel around a duffle bag full of bottles, coats, and whatever else they have, ...
In the Omaha area, you do get a concentration of those with no other transportation options on the bus, the near-homeless, the near-destitute, wandering poor, etc.

Why?

Those of means just don't take the bus, in Omaha that is.

In larger cities, as somebody just said, everybody rides, and no segment of society stands out as the stereotypical bus rider.

Here, the average middle-class gainfully-employed person who regularly rides the bus is the exception and not the rule. Most of them take their cars, or pickup trucks, or SUVs! It's very much a car culture here. Omaha has not seen serious transit for 50 years, that's two generations of private car inbreeding.

Oh well ...
I'd say that's true except for the #2 between downtown and UNO.



I'll bet that within 10 years, that mass transit is going to quite a bit more prominent in this city. I'm already noticing a trend of people wanting to live closer to work and so your probably going to start seeing more in-fill projects that bring up the density. There is no excuse for the upcoming $4.00 a gallon, on top of that, I don't the rise in prices will still not have seen its end.
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Swift wrote:
Omababe wrote:
thenewguy wrote:The crazies i'm talking about are the kind that sit there, rocking back and forth talking to themselves. Or sitting on the bench waiting for the bus, searching for smoked cigarette butts on the ground to light up...or the kind that wheel around a duffle bag full of bottles, coats, and whatever else they have, ...
In the Omaha area, you do get a concentration of those with no other transportation options on the bus, the near-homeless, the near-destitute, wandering poor, etc.

Why?

Those of means just don't take the bus, in Omaha that is.

In larger cities, as somebody just said, everybody rides, and no segment of society stands out as the stereotypical bus rider.

Here, the average middle-class gainfully-employed person who regularly rides the bus is the exception and not the rule. Most of them take their cars, or pickup trucks, or SUVs! It's very much a car culture here. Omaha has not seen serious transit for 50 years, that's two generations of private car inbreeding.

Oh well ...
I'd say that's true except for the #2 between downtown and UNO.
I used to ride the 98 from 90th and Blondo to downtown and it was fine too.
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I asked MAT and got this reply:

The bike rack procurement process has begun. Not sure at this point when they'll be operational. At a minimum they'll be installed and operational by late summer, early fall.

Oh, man, to think that they'd waste the whole spring and summer after sitting on that grant for nearly two years all ready!
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While MAT studies the racks for the last two years, it looks like Sioux Falls (a much smaller city) has put it into practice.
City buses making room for cyclists
staff reports • May 20, 2008

Bikers can give their cycles a lift on city buses.

A cyclist can meet the bus at a bus stop, flash a card to the driver, then mount the cycle on the front of the vehicle before boarding. The ride costs the regular $1 passenger fee, but bringing the bike along is free.

The card and free training are available at the Sioux Falls Transit terminal at First Avenue and Eleventh Street.
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John Nardini, general manager of Sioux Falls Transit, said the program has grown to serve 300 to 400 bikers a month. For details, call 367-7183
http://www.argusleader.com/apps/pbcs.dl ... 00307/1001

Sioux Falls Transit Bike and Bus Program -- http://www.siouxfalls.org/Transit/bike_bus
brochure -- http://www.siouxfalls.org/Transit/bike_ ... s_brochure
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From today's OWH:

http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_page=2 ... d=10342855
Clyde Anderson, the main speaker at a workshop titled "Getting Around Green in the Big O," said Metro Area Transit's progress "tends to be glacial" and criticized the limited service in rapidly growing west Omaha and Sarpy County.

Curt Simon, executive director of MAT, responded in an interview Saturday afternoon that the bus service has limited money to expand. Nevertheless, Simon said, the soaring price of fuel increased MAT ridership by 9 percent last year and noticeably this year, too.

"It's all about resources, and we are poised right now to take advantage of the opportunity that's presented to us," Simon said.

MAT's Simon said his agency is talking with leaders of several Sarpy County communities about the potential for increasing service there.

As for west Omaha, Simon said his agency about a year ago added a park and ride at Lakeside Hospital on 168th Street, intends to create another park-and-ride area west of the West Dodge Expressway, and is in discussions with Metropolitan Community College about a park-and-ride service at the college's Elkhorn campus.

Simon said MAT is replacing old bus-stop signs. "They stink," he said. "They're bad."
I'm glad Simon seems to recognize his service's shortcomings, but definitely points the blame too heavily on "underfunding". Hmmm, maybe MAT as a company should be more active in seeking out federal funding???

Thank GOD they're replacing bus signage. Their aesthetic and "way-finding" are abysmal.

I'm amazed at how simple and efficient the bus system here in "little old" Besancon is. Lines are color coded and numbered with the DIRECTION of buses readily identifiable by the name of the terminus stop ON THE BUS STOP SIGNAGE (for instance 8 CAMPUS, or 7 DOWNTOWN). Bus stops are ridiculously easy to use, and almost ALL of them feature a full system map and time-tables for all the lines that stop at that stop. All key "hub" stops and many non hubs have electronic GPS boards telling you how long before the next bus arrives. Many of the buses feature digital overhead boards inside telling the time, bus line, and next stop. There's also a limited "afterhours" service of four key lines, A, B, C, and D running until after midnight.

I think MAT still has yet to realize that their duty is to serve and be useful to the people of Omaha. If you're not useful and easy to use, you're not going to have ridership. It's definitely a chicken and egg scenario with funding and ridership. I understand that.

Simon keeps talking about sort of "exploiting" the situation with high gas prices, and yes, that's going to cause an increase in ridership. But the goal should be to have riders WANT to use the service, because it's so simple, efficient, and cost effective, not be FORCED to use it because gas is so expensive.
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Dodge express bus route coming

http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_page=2 ... d=10344872
JONATHON BRADEN WORLD-HERALD STAFF WRITER wrote:Omaha commuters could be riding the West Dodge express bus route in as little as a month's time.

Metro Area Transit's executive director, Curt Simon, said the express route is in the final stages of scheduling and said the route should start operating the third week of June.

"We think it will certainly be very popular," Simon said. "We've had a lot of requests from people out at the West Dodge corridor for a park-and-ride express."

Simon said the buses will pick up passengers in the morning at two places: the Village Pointe shopping center, at 168th Street and West Dodge Road, and at the North Omaha Transit Center, 30th Street and Ames Avenue.

The first bus route is tentatively scheduled to depart from Village Pointe at 6 a.m., 7 a.m. and 8 a.m., Simon said. The route will have a total of 12 pick-up points, including Village Pointe.

MAT's Route 2 has 11 eastbound stops, but covers a shorter distance from 102nd and Nicholas Streets through downtown to 22nd and Cuming Streets, according to MAT's Web site.

Currently, Simon said, no park-and-ride location has been secured at Village Pointe. MAT is working to arrange a location on a temporary basis, Simon said, so it won't have to delay the start of the express route. Commuters can park at the First National Bank Park, 144th Street and West Dodge, and at the Bank of the West, at 132nd Street and West Dodge, Simon said.

At 4:11 and 5:11 p.m., the bus will take people back to Village Pointe.

The second bus route will pick up passengers at the North Omaha Transit Center at 6 a.m. and 7 a.m. That bus will then make its first stop at 14th and Dodge Streets on the way to Village Pointe.

At 5 p.m. and 6 p.m., the bus will depart from Village Pointe and haul passengers back to the North Omaha Transit Center while making stops along Dodge. People riding the bus from the North Omaha Transit Center won't be able to park there because the transit center has no parking.

The new express route, Simon said, could quickly become MAT's most popular route.
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That is fantastic news! I imagine with gas prices soaring bus ridership will be up a little. How are fares these days?
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North Omaha Commuter Bus Route Postponed
KETV wrote:"We anticipated the 92 Express to start today, but because of some signage issues and some concrete issues, we did not start today," Shadden said. "We've had a lot of interest from riders who are very excited about that route." Once Route 92 begins, it will go from the North Omaha Transit Center to downtown and then continue on Dodge Street to Village Pointe Shopping Center and back.
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Swift wrote:The 15/55 goes out to Oakview.
The 97 goes to 156th and Q.
I actually just started parking and taking the bus from Oakview to the Medical Center (15) this week. I figured out the cost and at around current gas prices it will save me about $700 if not more in gas. Not a insignificant amount and the times are good and the stops are right next to my work. Most peak times are not real full but a good number of people although it gets sparse the further out you go. Although last nigh I took the 8:10 or so stop from the med center and had personal limo service the entire trip to Oakview. Not a single other person on or off. I would love it if somehow we could eventually get the whole light rail lines out west started.
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Any update on these bike racks? I haven't seen any buses yet with them.
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patience, there needs to be a demand for bike racks first..
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I've seen one on 16th st.
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Erik, sometimes I really wonder what you're talking about.

ANYWAY, I've seen several buses around the city with the racks. Many don't have them yet. I'm paying attention, because as soon as it becomes pretty reliable for any given bus to have the rack, I can start riding my bike to the bus stop.
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I saw one at Westroads last weekend. It looked like a new bus too.
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In the past two weeks, I have seen five buses with the bike racks on them.
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I have finally seen many buses with the bike racks on them. I had plans on actually using it today. I called MAT to figure out if my bus has the rack on it yet, her reply "None of them do." Then she tells me that they have to be inspected first? grr. Has anyone actually seen a bike on the bike racks yet?
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Ok so I decided to email MAT myself and this is what I got:

"Bike racks are on order and will be installed when received. We don’t have a delivery date, yet, so have not released an the date for when the bike racks will be available..

It will be within the next 60 days.

Apologize for the confusion."


She makes it sound like there are no bike racks already installed. lol
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MAT Needs Permanent Parking Solution On New Route
KETV wrote:MAT Needs Permanent Parking Solution On New Route. It hopes to work with an organization that will permanently donate space, said MAT spokeswoman Linda Barritt. Otherwise, MAT must purchase land to build a park-and-ride location. Ridership for the new route is already up 179 percent, MAT officials said.
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MAT is retarded, and obviously their employees don't know what the EFF they're talking about.
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I saw another bike rack today, it was on an orange bus this time.
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From the MAT Website today. Can it be we're finally going to put this into place. Now that summer is almost over.
Hello!

If you’re looking for an alternative way to get around Omaha, hop on your bike and head for the nearest bus stop.

Starting Monday, Sept. 29, the general public will be able to begin using the new bike racks mounted on Metro Area Transit (MAT) buses.

Local bike enthusiasts can practice using the new bus bike racks in a learning session set for Monday, Sept. 15. The event - sponsored by Activate Omaha in conjunction with MAT, the City of Omaha and Omaha by Design - will begin at 5 p.m. in the front parking lot of MAT headquarters, 2222 Cuming St. All those interested are invited to participate.

[center]JOIN US!!!

What: Learn How to Bike & Ride

Date: Monday, September 15, 2008

Time: 5:00pm

Location: MAT, 2222 Cuming Street

(front parking lot; inside if it rains)

RSVP: [email protected]


Bring Your Bikes!!! Bring Your Fellow Commuters!!!

All are welcome!!![/center]
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Nice! I will try to make it to the "how-to" workshop.

I'm glad to see MAT seems to be serious about getting the word out about this.

All that's left for them to do is completely re-work the bus system from top to bottom: Signage, routes, shelters/stops, schedules, logos...

Anyway, I'm very happy about the bike racks.
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I went down to the "how-to" meeting at MAT today. There was an extremely modest turnout (which is unfortunate, because something like this has SOOOO much promotional potential for getting new riders....but anyway, I'm going to reserve my overwhelming quantity of negative comments about MAT, because I want to focus on this very positive development), but it was nice to be able to get a close look at how things work before you get into a "real-world" scenario.

The MAT representative informed the crowd that ALL MAT BUSES should be equipped with the racks by Monday September 29th.

Anyway, here are some photos of the "gathering", and some details of the racks.

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Cool Streets, thanks! Hopefully once all the buses have them, MAT can somehow advertise them a little.
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Good Idea Tuna!

I have two old bikes to sell... They can start there!
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MAT is supposed to have 2 of their buses with bike racks on display at the grand opening celebration for the pedestrian bridge on Sept. 28.
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Good reppin' Aaron! Could I use some of your photos for the Omaha Streetcar newsletter? I'll give you full credit of course.
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Absolutely, Eric. Thanks!
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I've seen bikes on a few buses recently. Glad to see people are using the service!
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Today (10/17) we had a guy use the bike rack on the 5 pm westbound 92 express from 16th and Dodge. He exited the bus at 62nd and Dodge and just like that he was on his way pedaling on the campus. Took him no time at all to load / unload the bike. Hope it catches on more.
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I don't think there's already a thread for this.

I saw a poster for this yesterday at Amsterdam Falafel in Dundee.

The Greater Omaha Young Professionals Council is having a "Bus Challenge" that will run from April 18 to May 9, 2009. Young professionals can put together teams of one to five people in an effort to log the most "trips". The point is to get young professionals, transit advocates and would-be advocates alike, to get out there and use our less than perfect system. This "challenge" will also facilitate constructive feedback about what works and what doesn't (I think one list will be MUCH longer than the other).

Check out their web site!

http://www.ypbuschallenge.com/

I think this is a GREAT idea, and I am in the process of putting together my own team.

Join up!
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Good idea, indeed.
I saw a few suits riding downtown from Florence this morning, along with the many north kids. More people are starting to ride them, now if only they would quit sucking. I hope this campaign helps out.
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Here is the Young Professionals MAT survey, open to participants and non-participants alike.

It only takes about 10 minutes to complete.

Please take a moment and leave your feedback!

Also, the next MAT board meeting is May 21st at 8:30 AM at MAT's headquarters. Please come! Turnout should be large from YPC participants. The more the merrier!

Let's have our voices heard and demand the type of public transit that Omaha deserves!

http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=V ... Rsfg_3d_3d
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Re: ***Young Professionals MAT Survey - PLEASE TAKE!***

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StreetsOfOmaha wrote:Here is the Young Professionals MAT survey, open to participants and non-participants alike.
Not quite, if you did not ride the bus, you can not pass page 2
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I'm not sure what you mean.

I just tried answering the survey as if I didn't participate in the challenge, but HAD ridden the bus in the past, and it proceeded past page two just fine.
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even though i told it I didn't participate in the YP Bus Challenge it still asked me what routes i took and how frequently i used them. fail.

would rather see that MAT actually gave two shits.
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Question
14. What was your most frequently utilized point of origin? If you didn't ride, you can't answer

15. What was your most frequently utilized destination? If you didn't ride, you can't answer

16. How many trips on the bus did you make during the YP Bus Challenge? If I answer 2 or less, I am not doing the question justice...