The Omaha World Herald

Post by **Brad** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 9:25 am

At least this is encouraging!

Post by **nebugeater** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 9:30 am

I for one thing the photo is fine and not misleading. If you don't OK, but no one has answered my question from my first post on this, what should they have used for a photo? A serious response please.

Post by **nebugeater** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 9:31 am

Brad wrote:At least this is encouraging!

Why do people take the time to vote and then vote I DON'T KNOW ???

Big E · Post by **Big E** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 9:36 am

nebugeater wrote:I for one thing the photo is fine and not misleading. If you don't OK, but no one has answered my question from my first post on this, what should they have used for a photo? A serious response please.

Why not a photo of Suttle? Or Suttle, Fahey, and Daub? Or a police union meeting? Or the superintendents of our four public school districts?

The current photo is an implication that the debt is the fault of the stadium, when in fact it is an accumulation of decades of poor fiscal management due to reactionary |expletive|-kissing of narrow-minded voters.

DTO Luv · Post by **DTO Luv** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:01 am

Big E wrote:
nebugeater wrote:I for one thing the photo is fine and not misleading. If you don't OK, but no one has answered my question from my first post on this, what should they have used for a photo? A serious response please.
Why not a photo of Suttle? Or Suttle, Fahey, and Daub? Or a police union meeting? Or the superintendents of our four public school districts?

The current photo is an implication that the debt is the fault of the stadium, when in fact it is an accumulation of decades of poor fiscal management due to reactionary |expletive|-kissing of narrow-minded voters.

I've missed you.

Big E · Post by **Big E** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:03 am

Hugs all around, y'all.

justnick · Post by **justnick** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:20 am

Day Glo Neon Grass! I wonder if it'll really be that bright? One can only hope.

Post by **nebugeater** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:55 am

Big E wrote:
nebugeater wrote:I for one thing the photo is fine and not misleading. If you don't OK, but no one has answered my question from my first post on this, what should they have used for a photo? A serious response please.
Why not a photo of Suttle? Or Suttle, Fahey, and Daub? Or a police union meeting? Or the superintendents of our four public school districts?

The current photo is an implication that the debt is the fault of the stadium, when in fact it is an accumulation of decades of poor fiscal management due to reactionary |expletive|-kissing of narrow-minded voters.

I am OK with those too. My point is that there is nothing wrong with this selection. It fits the artical

Big E · Post by **Big E** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:24 am

nebugeater wrote:I am OK with those too. My point is that there is nothing wrong with this selection. It fits the artical

But it is just one more example of typical leading "journalism" coming out of the OWH. That's the point we're making.

If you're writing an article about how the city is in debt and you're outlining the nearly endless list of reasons why, there are 1000 better choices for an accompanying photograph... unless you're trying to arouse a specific reaction. The photo is as important as the headline (which I think is actually very appropriate to the article).

They could write a different article about inevitable property tax increases, with two different headlines:

1) "Budget Shortfall; Tax Hike Inevitable"

or

2) "Suttle to Raise Taxes; Break Campaign Promise"

Both accurate. Exact same article. Guess which one leads the reader before they even get to the article?

It's shoddy journalism, and I'm tired of them being our only major print news source.

thenewguy · Post by **thenewguy** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 5:46 pm

Big E wrote:
nebugeater wrote:I am OK with those too. My point is that there is nothing wrong with this selection. It fits the artical
But it is just one more example of typical leading "journalism" coming out of the OWH. That's the point we're making.

If you're writing an article about how the city is in debt and you're outlining the nearly endless list of reasons why, there are 1000 better choices for an accompanying photograph... unless you're trying to arouse a specific reaction. The photo is as important as the headline (which I think is actually very appropriate to the article).

They could write a different article about inevitable property tax increases, with two different headlines:

1) "Budget Shortfall; Tax Hike Inevitable"

or

2) "Suttle to Raise Taxes; Break Campaign Promise"

Both accurate. Exact same article. Guess which one leads the reader before they even get to the article?

It's shoddy journalism, and I'm tired of them being our only major print news source.

Put so eloquently, i couldn't think of anything better myself.

Post by **nebugeater** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 7:00 pm

Big E wrote:
nebugeater wrote:I am OK with those too. My point is that there is nothing wrong with this selection. It fits the artical
But it is just one more example of typical leading "journalism" coming out of the OWH. That's the point we're making.

If you're writing an article about how the city is in debt and you're outlining the nearly endless list of reasons why, there are 1000 better choices for an accompanying photograph... unless you're trying to arouse a specific reaction. The photo is as important as the headline (which I think is actually very appropriate to the article).

They could write a different article about inevitable property tax increases, with two different headlines:

1) "Budget Shortfall; Tax Hike Inevitable"

or

2) "Suttle to Raise Taxes; Break Campaign Promise"

Both accurate. Exact same article. Guess which one leads the reader before they even get to the article?

It's shoddy journalism, and I'm tired of them being our only major print news source.

And all OK esp since they fit your agenda. They are no more accurate or more specifically inaccurate than what was chosen. It all depends upon what YOUR belief is.

Big E · Post by **Big E** » Wed Aug 05, 2009 7:39 am

No, it isn't OK.

Or, at least very least, it is not OK if you want to present yourself as an unbiased news source.

ME having an agenda is fine. YOU having an agenda is fine. Editorials having agendas is fine, and I encourage that, especially when both sides are given equal time and the editorials are presented as such.

The only major print news outlet in Omaha having an agenda is not (at least in my book - I guess some people just don't give a |expletive|). And they do this over and over and over. Not calling the Qwest Center the Qwest Center should be enough proof alone to prove that is a childish organization. All this other stuff is just icing on the cake.

I've pretty much stopped reading the OWH except for sports coverage.

Bosco55David · Post by **Bosco55David** » Wed Aug 05, 2009 6:11 pm

Big E wrote:No, it isn't OK.

Or, at least very least, it is not OK if you want to present yourself as an unbiased news source.

ME having an agenda is fine. YOU having an agenda is fine. Editorials having agendas is fine, and I encourage that, especially when both sides are given equal time and the editorials are presented as such.

The only major print news outlet in Omaha having an agenda is not (at least in my book - I guess some people just don't give a |expletive|). And they do this over and over and over. Not calling the Qwest Center the Qwest Center should be enough proof alone to prove that is a childish organization. All this other stuff is just icing on the cake.

I've pretty much stopped reading the OWH except for sports coverage.

If they don't call the Qwest Center the "Qwest Center" then what do they call it? I agree though, it's a very low brow move.

Post by **nebugeater** » Wed Aug 05, 2009 6:38 pm

Bosco55David wrote:
Big E wrote:No, it isn't OK.

Or, at least very least, it is not OK if you want to present yourself as an unbiased news source.

ME having an agenda is fine. YOU having an agenda is fine. Editorials having agendas is fine, and I encourage that, especially when both sides are given equal time and the editorials are presented as such.

The only major print news outlet in Omaha having an agenda is not (at least in my book - I guess some people just don't give a |expletive|). And they do this over and over and over. Not calling the Qwest Center the Qwest Center should be enough proof alone to prove that is a childish organization. All this other stuff is just icing on the cake.

I've pretty much stopped reading the OWH except for sports coverage.
If they don't call the Qwest Center the "Qwest Center" then what do they call it? I agree though, it's a very low brow move.

For the first year or so they would not use the word Qwest. They got over it but I agree it was horse |expletive|.

greenbuilder · Post by **greenbuilder** » Wed Aug 05, 2009 9:30 pm

They should use that photo!!! Its just one more money pit for the city!!! We had this stadium forced on us and we will be forced to pay on it for years. Our society has no concept of living with-in there means. Not Spending Money That You Don't Have!!!!

Big E · Post by **Big E** » Wed Aug 05, 2009 11:55 pm

I wish Suttle would impose a tax on unnecessary online exclamation points and mid-sentence caps.

That and every time someone uses the wrong form of "there", "their" and "they're".

greenbuilder · Post by **greenbuilder** » Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:53 am

BIG DEAL !!!!!!! THERE

Big E · Post by **Big E** » Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:58 am

DTO Luv · Post by **DTO Luv** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:47 pm

I say do it. WOuldn't that be half of this years budget shortfall?

Big E · Post by **Big E** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 1:09 pm

LOL... have fun being the elected official that tries to get the OWH to pay taxes.

What the heck is the reasoning behind not taxing a newspaper?

thenewguy · Post by **thenewguy** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 1:13 pm

Because of 1776...taxation without representation...minute men...the English....Boston Tea Party...

I've got no clue, I'm pulling |expletive| out of my |expletive|.

joeglow · Post by **joeglow** » Sat Aug 08, 2009 11:23 am

Big E wrote:LOL... have fun being the elected official that tries to get the OWH to pay taxes.

What the heck is the reasoning behind not taxing a newspaper?

Um, probably for the very reason mentioned in your post. Government is all about power, taking from those it is popular to take from and giving to as many people as you possibly can.

MTO · Post by **MTO** » Sat Aug 08, 2009 11:37 am

Go ahead and tax them just don't be shocked when they declare bankruptcy. After seeing all these other news papers that have gone out of business I am just glad the World Herald is still here. I would rather try and keep them around instead of trying to change the tax law against them.

Bosco55David · Post by **Bosco55David** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 5:56 pm

MTO wrote:Go ahead and tax them just don't be shocked when they declare bankruptcy. After seeing all these other news papers that have gone out of business I am just glad the World Herald is still here. I would rather try and keep them around instead of trying to change the tax law against them.

Maybe we could use that as a bargaining chip.

"Start producing a decent newspaper or be prepared to pay the taxes!"

omahastylee459 · Post by **omahastylee459** » Tue Aug 11, 2009 12:32 pm

Has anyone SEEN the newspaper recently? There is barely anything left to it! I am assuming they cut it down because of costs. So one could logically assume if they take on more losses there is a good chance circulation would end.

DTO Luv · Post by **DTO Luv** » Tue Aug 11, 2009 12:45 pm

Honestly I couldn't tell you the last time I bought the paper. I have also not been to their site nearly as much since it's become that ugly clusterfck of randomness.

TechnicalDisaster · Post by **TechnicalDisaster** » Tue Aug 11, 2009 2:00 pm

Bosco55David wrote:
MTO wrote:Go ahead and tax them just don't be shocked when they declare bankruptcy. After seeing all these other news papers that have gone out of business I am just glad the World Herald is still here. I would rather try and keep them around instead of trying to change the tax law against them.
Maybe we could use that as a bargaining chip.

"Start producing a decent newspaper or be prepared to pay the taxes!"

I think they're already getting the message about the quality of their paper. They're just ignoring it, or won't face the reality of their dwindling readership.

Post by **Brad** » Thu Aug 13, 2009 1:57 pm

What kind of poll is this....

On the main page of omaha.com, the OWH wrote:Back to school
Kids have started to return to school. What do you think?

Yay!
Boo!
No opinion

DTO Luv · Post by **DTO Luv** » Thu Aug 13, 2009 1:59 pm

I saw that and thought it was stupid too. But it's nice to see that when it comes to children that the OWH is pro-choices.

DTO Luv · Post by **DTO Luv** » Thu Aug 20, 2009 9:09 am

Does the OWH only do the news every 3 days now? They have the exact same stories that aren't the front page one in all of their subsections. Can they not afford to write about current events anymore?

Post by **Brad** » Thu Aug 20, 2009 9:16 am

I was thinking the same thing!

Clunkers
Huskers
Health Care
Huskers Huskers
Clunkers
Health Care
Huskers
Clunkers
Hot weather takes a vacation?
Clunkers
Huskers

TechnicalDisaster · Post by **TechnicalDisaster** » Thu Aug 20, 2009 9:23 am

Brad wrote:I was thinking the same thing!

Clunkers
Huskers
Health Care
Mayor
Huskers Huskers
Clunkers
Health Care
Huskers
Mayor
Clunkers
Hot weather takes a vacation?
Clunkers
Huskers
Mayor

FTFY

Post by **Brad** » Thu Aug 20, 2009 9:31 am

bradley414 wrote:FTFY

Fixed that for you? http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=FTFY

TechnicalDisaster · Post by **TechnicalDisaster** » Thu Aug 20, 2009 9:34 am

Brad wrote:
bradley414 wrote:FTFY
Fixed that for you? http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=FTFY

Yeah, I added "mayor" every 4th or 5th line, since that is one of the stories the OWH has in it's monotonous cycle.

Post by **Brad** » Thu Aug 20, 2009 9:40 am

Good Point. Probably could have added pension/police/fire too but we all get the point.

DTO Luv · Post by **DTO Luv** » Thu Aug 20, 2009 9:52 am

I'm not even talking about new angles on the same stories. The exact same articles will be up there and they say it's new when it's days old.

Post by **Brad** » Thu Aug 20, 2009 10:22 am

Brad wrote:I was thinking the same thing!

Clunkers
Huskers
Health Care
Huskers Huskers
Clunkers
Health Care
Huskers
Clunkers
Hot weather takes a vacation?
Clunkers
Huskers

I was just thinking, change Huskers to Lingerie and Health Care to Urban/Suburban and you have eomaha anymore...

:banghead: :arg: :banghead: :arg: :banghead: :arg: :banghead: :arg: :banghead: :arg: :banghead: :arg: :banghead: :arg: :banghead: :arg: :banghead: :arg: :banghead:

TechnicalDisaster · Post by **TechnicalDisaster** » Thu Aug 20, 2009 10:25 am

Brad wrote: I was just thinking, change Huskers to Lingerie and Health Care to Urban/Suburban and you have eomaha anymore...

Your wisdom is without fail, great Eomaha Oracle that you are...

Post by **Brad** » Thu Aug 20, 2009 10:27 am

Wisdom... you the smart one!

the1wags · Post by **the1wags** » Fri May 21, 2010 7:11 am

The World Herald must also be exempt from copyright laws. Go to the metro/region webpage this morning and look at the aerial they are using for the NTK (need to know) section. It's one I posted on here with a ballpark in Heartland of America park, total hack job in paint. The picture isn't the only hack job around.

Link

http://www.omaha.com/section/NEWS01