WallStreet Tower Omaha

Harpoon · Post by **Harpoon** » Tue Jul 26, 2005 2:23 am

This won't be 40 stories boys and girls... it will be more in the range of 25, but it will happen.

OmahaChef · Post by **OmahaChef** » Tue Jul 26, 2005 2:23 am

This does sound great, but...I wonder how any developer can create a business model that would get financing approval that includes 10 floors of office space in a downtown market with 20%+ vacancy?

Linkin5 · Post by **Linkin5** » Tue Jul 26, 2005 2:27 am

Heres my favorite new residential building, the Nicollet in Minneapolis. I'm sure we won't get anything this big, but a scaled down version would be nice!

Harpoon · Post by **Harpoon** » Tue Jul 26, 2005 2:31 am

Minneapolis is a great model for Omaha to attempt to achieve. Back in the early 80's it was an ugly cess pool. Now we see it as being very progressive.

OmahaChef · Post by **OmahaChef** » Tue Jul 26, 2005 2:37 am

Wow! That settles it, I've got to plan a vacation to Minneapolis.

StreetsOfOmaha · Post by **StreetsOfOmaha** » Tue Jul 26, 2005 2:59 am

Yeah, that is a GORGEOUS building.

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Tue Jul 26, 2005 9:16 am

Nice job Aaron..

I can't wait to see this all come true!

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..Ciao..LiO....Peace

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Tue Jul 26, 2005 1:59 pm

Provided that the wheels get set to motion on this project and the UP site gets cleared..Construction for this tower could begin in 6 to 7 months and be completed by..

The beginning of 2008..Just in time for the March Madness Mens BB 1st and 2nd round at the Qwest Center, the College World Series, and the US Olympic swim trials (also at 'The Q')..

That would be March through July 2008..ESPN, NBC, CBS..Omaha presented on a national stage..Hmmmm..

Imagine the possibilities

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..Ciao..LiO....Peace

Hawkeye · Post by **Hawkeye** » Tue Jul 26, 2005 3:54 pm

Well, as long as we're throwing out ideas of what we'd prefer something of this nature to look like, here are a couple of other condo towers that Ol' Hawkeye has always really liked.

Grant Park Tower in Mlps.

Galtier Plaza Towers in St. Paul

DTO Luv · Post by **DTO Luv** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 12:15 am

heck yeah!!! I hope this really happens. As the King Of the Height Obsessed I'm sh*ttin' my pants over this. I had someone call me the other day since my E time has been so limitied and I'm glad they did. What the heck is holding the city up with getting rid of that peice of |expletive| UP building? I'm telling ya I could bring that building down flat in no time.

I hope they do go for actual appearance of height as well as actual height. The Woodmen on top of that hill is equal to 508' from where FNC and UP are. It wouldn't be that hard to top it. 10 Office floors at 15' per floor (150') and 30 condo floors at 12' (360') gives you a total of 510'. That's totally doable.

Chef-
In regards to your comment about adding mroe office space with a high vacancy I say this... We need more UNIQUE office spaces DT. I feel that's why businesses are pushing further west with made to suit buildings because alot of the buildings DT don't offer the new amenities they can build out west.

Bob-
I hope your not jerking us around with the Swanson site. I hope that blows my expectations of anything Fahey could pick away.

Bob from Omaha · Post by **Bob from Omaha** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 1:06 am

I never jerked you guys around about anything. And to Mr. Huston, I told you privately the reason I pulled my post about the Central Park Plaza.

Things are proposed, and sometimes they work out and sometimes they don't. Sometimes they are changed or scaled back. It is what it is. Things change, business changes and the economy changes. Do you all have any idea what it takes to even do a small project? Proposals, ideas, hundreds of hours of meetings and discussions, only to go back after being shot down by a city planner or a bank or an architect or an engineer or a board of directors who are clueless. THEN you need, oh, about a million permits and inspections. The banks want to crawl up your behind with a microscope. AND THEN IF you do build it you pray that it works because if it doesn't the world will want to string you up.

The business world makes the Bluffs casinos look like a sand box as far as gambling goes.

Sometimes I wonder...

Linkin5 · Post by **Linkin5** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 1:06 am

Isn't 15 feet/floor in office space a little generous?

DTO Luv · Post by **DTO Luv** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 1:21 am

No. The Woodmens is 15-16 478'/30F(loors)=15.9'. FNC is 635'/44F=14.4. UPC is 317'/19F=16.6'. The old FNC Bank Tower is 295'/21F=14'. 15' is aobut average. I know just from Mutual it's about that size. When I stick my arm up it's about 9' in the air and I can't touch the ceiling. When they took the panels of the ceiling a few weeks ago there was about another 5' between the panel and the next floor. It was enough room for a guy to be in there working stooped or squating. 12' per residential floor could be the generous part.

eomaha · Post by **eomaha** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 1:39 am

Bob, you indeed did tell me why you pulled your post (which I completely forgot about until I went rummaging through my private messages just now)... but I wasn't the one asking.

futrecndvlpr · Post by **futrecndvlpr** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 1:47 am

Good work Streets. There is nothing like coming back to a hotel in some random city and jumping on the site to find out some new and exciting development information.

Bob, are you able to elaborate on any news at Swanson.

futr.... out from Aggieland.

DTO Luv · Post by **DTO Luv** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 2:19 am

Now that I've looked into it more the Woodmen Tower doesn't appear at 508' but 528'.

That'd be even more impressive for the UP Site tower. Does anyone else see a possible spire?

StreetsOfOmaha · Post by **StreetsOfOmaha** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 2:47 am

Bob from Omaha wrote:I never jerked you guys around about anything. And to Mr. Huston, I told you privately the reason I pulled my post about the Central Park Plaza.

Things are proposed, and sometimes they work out and sometimes they don't. Sometimes they are changed or scaled back. It is what it is. Things change, business changes and the economy changes. Do you all have any idea what it takes to even do a small project? Proposals, ideas, hundreds of hours of meetings and discussions, only to go back after being shot down by a city planner or a bank or an architect or an engineer or a board of directors who are clueless. THEN you need, oh, about a million permits and inspections. The banks want to crawl up your behind with a microscope. AND THEN IF you do build it you pray that it works because if it doesn't the world will want to string you up.

The business world makes the Bluffs casinos look like a sand box as far as gambling goes.

Sometimes I wonder...

Good points, and it's important to remember.

As much confidence as I have in my sources, and as much as I would friggin' love to see this happen, there are definitely certain factors that no one can control. All I'm saying, is that I REALLY want this to happen, however, if it doesn't happen (BIG IF), or at least if it isn't as grand as I've reported it might be, I don't want you guys to bite my friggin' head off. You wanted information, and I gave it to you.

However, if it does happen as reported, you will all bow before me and worship me as a god from thence forth.

DTO Luv · Post by **DTO Luv** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 2:50 am

Hence forth, not thence mister god.

StreetsOfOmaha · Post by **StreetsOfOmaha** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 2:52 am

No, because it's not from "here" on, it's from "there" on, pending on the project happening, Mr. Slave. LOL

DTO Luv · Post by **DTO Luv** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 2:55 am

New Rule- We will not expose DTO's lack of knowledge on the history of proper English. Doing so will cause him to reign down Holy Terror on you.

Now back to this "mythical" ;) tower.

icejammer · Post by **icejammer** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 1:31 pm

If it will make you feel any better DTO, it is thenceforth, not thence forth, so give it right back at him.

StreetsOfOmaha · Post by **StreetsOfOmaha** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 8:53 pm

The words can excist seperately.

Back to topic....

icejammer · Post by **icejammer** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 9:35 pm

StreetsOfOmaha wrote:The words can excist seperately.

Back to topic....

Not to nitpick, but if you're using them together, they go together.

Now, back to topic.

eomaha · Post by **eomaha** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 4:48 am

The words can excist seperately.

Henceforth let's stick to single vowel words.

YES... now back to topic.

OmahaChef · Post by **OmahaChef** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 1:53 pm

On the agenda for the Planning Department Meeting on August 3rd, is approval of an amendment to the Downtown Northeast Redevelopment Plan for the property at 1416 Dodge Street. Unless I am mistaken, this is the old UP building address. If this passes, perhaps we'll hear something official after that.

http://www.ci.omaha.ne.us/planning/boar ... lt2005.htm

Finn · Post by **Finn** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 2:15 pm

This is the old UP site. I saw this on the agenda and posted it on another thread (I had not seen this post yet, sorry).

Whale Shark · Post by **Whale Shark** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 2:24 pm

If a condo tower is built on this site, I kind of like the name 1416 Dodge. Has a cool urban ring to it.

StreetsOfOmaha · Post by **StreetsOfOmaha** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 2:58 pm

OmahaChef wrote:On the agenda for the Planning Department Meeting on August 3rd, is approval of an amendment to the Downtown Northeast Redevelopment Plan for the property at 1416 Dodge Street. Unless I am mistaken, this is the old UP building address. If this passes, perhaps we'll hear something official after that.

http://www.ci.omaha.ne.us/planning/boar ... lt2005.htm

This could be what we're waiting for.

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 3:33 pm

Lets keep our fingers crossed..

..Ciao..LiO....Peace

Swift · Post by **Swift** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 4:07 pm

exciting!

Ingersoll1978 · Post by **Ingersoll1978** » Sat Jul 30, 2005 12:50 am

Here is confirmation by the media that its being proposed (great news!):

From the OWH:

http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_pg=46&u_sid=1471639

Townsend officials have met with city, chamber and real estate officials and were in Omaha last week with construction people. The developers of Kansas City's WallStreet Tower have told people locally of their interest in building a 25- to 30-story tower with 250 units and commercial and retail space on lower levels in Omaha.

A developer for Townsend Inc., Troy Strawhecker, said Friday that the company intends to respond to the city's request for proposals if a high-rise condominium building fits the city's criteria. He said he couldn't talk about building height, price range or other details without knowing what the city will be requesting

Will · Post by **Will** » Sat Jul 30, 2005 1:27 am

Sometimes I wonder if the OWH reads this forum

StreetsOfOmaha · Post by **StreetsOfOmaha** » Sat Jul 30, 2005 2:18 am

We'd be very honored to be selected, but we have to earn it," Strawhecker said. "We are so impressed with downtown Omaha, I can't begin to tell you. We think it's going to keep moving in the right direction, and we'd like to be involved. At the same time, we need to follow the city's lead.

Nice. Yeah, there's really no new news here, and the OWH is obviously going off of previous reports that the building would be 25 to 30 stories. I love that he specifically said that they can't comment on the height of the building.

It really sounds like the ball is in the city's court. And since an amendment will be approved on the 3rd of August, I'd say it's not outragious to look for an announcement fairly soon THEREAFTER (see guys, one word ;)).

eomaha · Post by **eomaha** » Sat Jul 30, 2005 2:31 am

I've been communicating with Mr. Strawhecker (who is actually out of Des Moines)... he said he'd have some information for me today, however I guess he forgot about me.

Probably just the same information the World Herald added with this article.

Swift · Post by **Swift** » Sat Jul 30, 2005 2:57 am

There is little to no doubt in my mind that the OWH reads this site. I have a friend who works for the OWH and he told me that someone mentioned this site.

almighty_tuna · Post by **almighty_tuna** » Sat Jul 30, 2005 3:26 am

Will wrote:Sometimes I wonder if the OWH reads this forum

What, the threatened domain name lawsuit and pointed letter about quoting articles wasn't a big enough hint? ;)

OmahaChef · Post by **OmahaChef** » Sat Jul 30, 2005 3:26 am

I have a friend whose wife is employed by the OWH and yes, they do regularly browse this site. Imagine their surprise when we suggest mobile home residents move to friend concentration/death camps so we can build more dormitories for UNO students!

Read this article carefully! Sounds to me like there is the change to the Master Plan for redevelopment, then the city needs to solicit proposals for redevelopment, then they need to pick one, and then it needs to go through the city council approval process. I hate to put a damper on this, but look how long it took till a "winner" was selected to do Riverfront Place or the North Downtown site that Saddle Creek will occupy. Even if it is approved next Wednesday, the city has to offically seek proposals for redevelopment, and give a specific time period for responses, generally a month, then commit to the due diligence process to suss out the right project and then announce it officially. Even if Thompson is the only offer made, there are dates set for entries. I really don't see an announcement for a few months, and a groundbreaking...I'd guess next Spring or Summer on the selected proposal. Dissappointed as I am by this article, I am not holding out hope of an official announcement anytime soon. The process takes a good while to accomplish.

Will · Post by **Will** » Sat Jul 30, 2005 11:15 am

Will the City make the proposals public like they did with the Riverfront Place? I sure hope so

almighty_tuna · Post by **almighty_tuna** » Sat Jul 30, 2005 11:38 am

Chef speaks the truth. Even if the afforementioned developers present the only plan it will still take quite a while for things to become more official. Its a little slower, but I like the soliciting for proposals idea - imagine if another developer decided they wanted in on this. It would be quite the "bidding" war.

"45 stories, HAH....I'll see your 45 stories w/grocery store and raise you a movie theatre and underground public parking. Yahtzee!"