Downtown HDR Corporate Headquarters

iamjacobm · Post by **iamjacobm** » Tue Aug 18, 2015 10:45 pm

daveoma wrote:
iamjacobm wrote:
Midwestern wrote:A 12-story building would be a gigantic letdown.
12 floors of office on top of a 6-8 floor parking podium would get the 18-20 floors that was previously mentioned.
I love the idea of the height but what about the parking garage? There are office towers in downtown Vegas which have parking garages 5 floors tall and a building set upon that. From a distance it looks great but at street level it looks gritty and uninviting.

I expect that it will have a facade that compliments the tower portion.

MTO · Post by **MTO** » Tue Aug 18, 2015 10:57 pm

And one would assume a descent lobby at street level.

mchine73 · Post by **mchine73** » Wed Aug 19, 2015 1:22 pm

I heard from a friend that works at HDR they DO NOT want retail in the building...they don't want to mess around with being a landlord

Isn't HDR going to be technically a leasee?

mcarch · Post by **mcarch** » Thu Aug 20, 2015 1:03 am

NeGoofyfoot wrote:
Coyote wrote:I just spoke with Jim Vokal and he hinted that there would be ground floor retail...
I heard from a friend that works at HDR they DO NOT want retail in the building...they don't want to mess around with being a landlord...they want to leave the retail business to the Capitol District across the street. From what he has heard they are looking at a base/parking garage that will take up the entire block (lot line to lot line)and then a tall slender tower 1 block by 1/2 block for the offices about 12 stories tall. He did also say design was still in the preliminary stages... He also said that the general consensus in the buildings is excitement about the move downtown

The part I'd like to speak about is the general consensus. There must be 2 groups... ones that love the move and other that absolutely hate it. (One) of the major reasons HDR decided to stay where they were at was because of answers on the survey they handed out before building the new building. Employees stated they liked the location being central (as many of the employees (at least at that time) lived not far from HDRs current location.

Also to comment on size. Currently, HDR's size is around 110K in one building and 120K in the other. They also have several other leased offices around town. When they built the building they are in now, they were warned ahead of time that they wouldn't have enough space for what they wanted to do. As soon as the building was done, and all of the leased space was packed up and ready to move... they found out they didn't have enough space.... and then had to lease the space back. I hope they learned...

PotatoeEatsFish · Post by **PotatoeEatsFish** » Mon Aug 24, 2015 4:37 am

I wonder how much longer it will be till a rendering is complete.

Garrett · Post by **Garrett** » Mon Aug 24, 2015 1:59 pm

PotatoeEatsFish wrote:I wonder how much longer it will be till a rendering is complete.

I would assume they are getting a bunch together, then they'll narrow it down to maybe 3 or 4 which will be released to the public, then they'll have the final one. Should be done by year's end I would guess.

RNcyanide · Post by **RNcyanide** » Mon Aug 24, 2015 2:13 pm

Someone with a connection a few pages ago said December.

Stargazer · Post by **Stargazer** » Tue Aug 25, 2015 1:39 am

This isn't a public RFP. I would expect we'll just see THE design, once it's been chosen internally.

mr. omaha · Post by **mr. omaha** » Tue Aug 25, 2015 9:04 pm

I was at Piccolo's for lunch today (so was Warren Buffett BTW...) and I sat right next to two guys (at least one was from HDR) who were discussing the HQ building. I clearly overheard them say the following things:

"20 to 25 stories" on top of "a couple levels of parking"

"The box on top of the parking levels"

"The leased portion of the parking"

"Leased retail bays"

Also, I clearly heard them say they have some renderings completed and "it looks really neat" and "it's a great design"

.....If you don't believe me ask B Money.

MTO · Post by **MTO** » Tue Aug 25, 2015 9:49 pm

So we're nearing 30 floors, commercial ceiling height floors. So how tall are parking garage levels these days?

dto · Post by **dto** » Tue Aug 25, 2015 11:17 pm

Usually first floor is 10'-11' to be accessible and above that closer to 9'.

MadMartin8 · Post by **MadMartin8** » Wed Aug 26, 2015 12:09 pm

Hmm, the plot thickens. Now I'm really curious...if it's nearing 25-30 floors, that's a skyline changer for sure.

MTO · Post by **MTO** » Wed Aug 26, 2015 1:17 pm

MadMartin8 wrote:Hmm, the plot thickens. Now I'm really curious...if it's nearing 25-30 floors, that's a skyline changer for sure.

Absolutely, it will bring much needed balance especially from afar.

mj3141 · Post by **mj3141** » Wed Aug 26, 2015 5:17 pm

mr. omaha wrote:I was at Piccolo's for lunch today (so was Warren Buffett BTW...) and I sat right next to two guys (at least one was from HDR) who were discussing the HQ building. I clearly overheard them say the following things:

"20 to 25 stories" on top of "a couple levels of parking"

"The box on top of the parking levels"

"The leased portion of the parking"

"Leased retail bays"

Also, I clearly heard them say they have some renderings completed and "it looks really neat" and "it's a great design"

.....If you don't believe me ask B Money.

Juicy info--thanks for sharing!

How do you know at least one of the men was from HDR?

RNcyanide · Post by **RNcyanide** » Wed Aug 26, 2015 8:10 pm

I'm not getting too excited about it. Are you sure they weren't discussing a design that they were working on as part of the internal competition someone mentioned?

Linkin5 · Post by **Linkin5** » Wed Aug 26, 2015 8:18 pm

RNcyanide wrote:I'm not getting too excited about it. Are you sure they weren't discussing a design that they were working on as part of the internal competition someone mentioned?

I think they scrapped that idea.

Hawkeye · Post by **Hawkeye** » Wed Aug 26, 2015 9:01 pm

Linkin5 wrote:
RNcyanide wrote:I'm not getting too excited about it. Are you sure they weren't discussing a design that they were working on as part of the internal competition someone mentioned?
I think they scrapped that idea.

Ol' Hawkeye's not trying to be the "wet blanket" on this subject.....but are we 100% sure they were talking about their OWN headquarters building?

Afterall, HDR is a GLOBAL architecture/design/development firm. Could it be that these were two folks talking about a building they're working on that is located somewhere else?

Bob from Omaha · Post by **Bob from Omaha** » Wed Aug 26, 2015 9:05 pm

For those who were here a few years ago....

It's going to be very European and have a lake for gondolas, a monorail, a Nordstroms, blah, blah, blah

Coyote · Post by **Coyote** » Wed Aug 26, 2015 9:32 pm

They will need the monorail, since it would be the only transportation across the moat.

Joe_Sovereign · Post by **Joe_Sovereign** » Wed Aug 26, 2015 9:44 pm

I am going to set the bar at taller than the Woodman Tower and revolutionary in Architectural Design. Anything less I am going to be severely disappointed.

Linkin5 · Post by **Linkin5** » Wed Aug 26, 2015 9:48 pm

Joe_Sovereign wrote:I am going to set the bar at taller than the Woodman Tower and revolutionary in Architectural Design. Anything less I am going to be severely disappointed.

Prepare to be disappointed.

GetUrban · Post by **GetUrban** » Wed Aug 26, 2015 9:50 pm

They would probably be done with their internal competition by now anyway. I trust Mr. Omaha! I doesn't have to be taller than the Woodmen, just more interesting.

MTO · Post by **MTO** » Wed Aug 26, 2015 9:55 pm

Taller than the Woody not holding my breath but boy wouldn't it be nice if the third tallest returns to the CBD.

RNcyanide · Post by **RNcyanide** » Wed Aug 26, 2015 10:20 pm

Joe_Sovereign wrote:I am going to set the bar at taller than the Woodman Tower and revolutionary in Architectural Design. Anything less I am going to be severely disappointed.

Would you like to be let down now, or later?

OmahaJaysCU · Post by **OmahaJaysCU** » Wed Aug 26, 2015 10:57 pm

Not sure the validity, but I was told the design competition is/was rigged and that a design is sort of set to a certain extent.

mr. omaha · Post by **mr. omaha** » Thu Aug 27, 2015 12:07 am

mj3141 wrote:
mr. omaha wrote:I was at Piccolo's for lunch today (so was Warren Buffett BTW...) and I sat right next to two guys (at least one was from HDR) who were discussing the HQ building. I clearly overheard them say the following things:

"20 to 25 stories" on top of "a couple levels of parking"

"The box on top of the parking levels"

"The leased portion of the parking"

"Leased retail bays"

Also, I clearly heard them say they have some renderings completed and "it looks really neat" and "it's a great design"

.....If you don't believe me ask B Money.
Juicy info--thanks for sharing! :banana:

How do you know at least one of the men was from HDR?

He kept using words like "we" and "us" when talking about the building and dropped several names of people that I know currently work at HDR (I have friends who work/worked there) when he talked of conversations he had. Also, he was wearing a tie, which they are all required to do.

mr. omaha · Post by **mr. omaha** » Thu Aug 27, 2015 12:08 am

Hawkeye wrote:
Linkin5 wrote:
RNcyanide wrote:I'm not getting too excited about it. Are you sure they weren't discussing a design that they were working on as part of the internal competition someone mentioned?
I think they scrapped that idea.
Ol' Hawkeye's not trying to be the "wet blanket" on this subject.....but are we 100% sure they were talking about their OWN headquarters building?

Afterall, HDR is a GLOBAL architecture/design/development firm. Could it be that these were two folks talking about a building they're working on that is located somewhere else?

He said something about being able to walk out of the building and being right in the heart of the Capitol District, so I'm pretty sure he was talking about the HQ.

mr. omaha · Post by **mr. omaha** » Thu Aug 27, 2015 12:11 am

GetUrban wrote:They would probably be done with their internal competition by now anyway. I trust Mr. Omaha! I doesn't have to be taller than the Woodmen, just more interesting. :yes:

Thanks! I'm just telling it as I clearly heard it. Whether it all comes true though is ultimately up to HDR.

PotatoeEatsFish · Post by **PotatoeEatsFish** » Thu Aug 27, 2015 3:07 am

It wouldn't surprise me if it its taller than expected, after all they do need tons of space.

Seth · Post by **Seth** » Thu Aug 27, 2015 1:16 pm

I've heard rumors that they are looking at about 1000 garage parking spaces, and 300,000SF of office. There are plans for on-site fitness, etc, so I don't know if the 300,000 number includes that or not.

Hawkeye · Post by **Hawkeye** » Thu Aug 27, 2015 3:17 pm

What if it looked like one of these? Not revolutionary designs by any means, but certainly different than the preponderance of what we have now.

Would something akin to these inspire any sort of sense of awe? Apoplexy?? Something in between???

LG&E Tower - Louisville, KY

Dudley Tower - Wausau, WI

Travelers Building - St. Paul, MN

Carlson Companies Headquarters - Minnetonka, MN

RNcyanide · Post by **RNcyanide** » Thu Aug 27, 2015 3:24 pm

I'll take apoplexy for all of them, please.

Joe_Sovereign · Post by **Joe_Sovereign** » Thu Aug 27, 2015 3:51 pm

I would imagine it is going to be more modern than these examples. This building is going to be HDR's showpiece so I expect something very modern with a lot of very impressive detail but most likely not something so radical it scares away clients.

MTO · Post by **MTO** » Thu Aug 27, 2015 4:01 pm

This point thing was just a vague rumor why are we taking it like gospel.

RNcyanide · Post by **RNcyanide** » Thu Aug 27, 2015 4:18 pm

That's how this site rolls. We live off of development conspiracy theories.

skinzfan23 · Post by **skinzfan23** » Thu Aug 27, 2015 5:08 pm

I am just hoping for something other than all the "boxy" architecture that downtown has now.

RNcyanide · Post by **RNcyanide** » Thu Aug 27, 2015 5:22 pm

Like this?

Hawkeye · Post by **Hawkeye** » Thu Aug 27, 2015 5:23 pm

Joe_Sovereign wrote:I would imagine it is going to be more modern than these examples. This building is going to be HDR's showpiece so I expect something very modern with a lot of very impressive detail but most likely not something so radical it scares away clients.

Oh, no question on the "more modern" comment. Was more just referring to the general style vs. any kind of direct carbon-copy of these buildings. Sort of have to scribble out the details of them in your mind, and just focus on the overall scale/scope/shape, etc.

HDR will come up with something that is at the very least pleasing to the eye. That much is not in doubt. They rarely build "ugly".

That having been said, whether it will be pleasing to the very high hopes, dreams and aspirations of the folks on this forum.....well, the jury is definitely still out on that.

GetUrban · Post by **GetUrban** » Thu Aug 27, 2015 5:28 pm

skinzfan23 wrote:I am just hoping for something other than all the "boxy" architecture that downtown has now.

Something like this maybe?....

Or this......

RNcyanide · Post by **RNcyanide** » Thu Aug 27, 2015 5:29 pm

What's the second one?