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Saw it today....that looks great. I didn't know they were going to have the arch over the roof.
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Drive by or is that Drive Under photos on the way home this afternoon.
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Uffda wrote:Drive by or is that Drive Under photos on the way home this afternoon.
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Is it just me, or is it creepy to live in a place where so many people sufferd and died in a agonizing destitute kinda way?
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OverlookedFarm wrote: Mon Apr 16, 2018 1:13 am Is it just me, or is it creepy to live in a place where so many people sufferd and died in a agonizing destitute kinda way?
My wife has said the same thing. I wonder if it will detract from any potential renters.
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OverlookedFarm wrote: Mon Apr 16, 2018 1:13 am Is it just me, or is it creepy to live in a place where so many people sufferd and died in a agonizing destitute kinda way?
Honestly I don’t think it will matter one bit. A good chunk of the intended tenants aren’t from Omaha, and many of the others will have absolutely no knowledge of what the building formerly housed. And many of the rest won’t give it two thoughts.
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On the other hand many lives started there. So, it was a happy place, too. Two of my kids were born there.
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nativeomahan wrote: Wed Apr 18, 2018 3:07 am
OverlookedFarm wrote: Mon Apr 16, 2018 1:13 am Is it just me, or is it creepy to live in a place where so many people sufferd and died in a agonizing destitute kinda way?
Honestly I don’t think it will matter one bit. A good chunk of the intended tenants aren’t from Omaha, and many of the others will have absolutely no knowledge of what the building formerly housed. And many of the rest won’t give it two thoughts.
All depends on the level of superstition you have.
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Louie wrote: Wed Apr 18, 2018 1:46 pm
nativeomahan wrote: Wed Apr 18, 2018 3:07 am
OverlookedFarm wrote: Mon Apr 16, 2018 1:13 am Is it just me, or is it creepy to live in a place where so many people sufferd and died in a agonizing destitute kinda way?
Honestly I don’t think it will matter one bit. A good chunk of the intended tenants aren’t from Omaha, and many of the others will have absolutely no knowledge of what the building formerly housed. And many of the rest won’t give it two thoughts.
All depends on the level of superstition you have.
I never thought of all this w/ the remodel of that hospital. I'm not dismissing the supernatural at all, but I don't believe in ghosts of people hanging around and haunting people... I just don't look at what they dub "hauntings" through that lense. Also, if supposed ghosts of past patients are hanging around & lingering in the rooms & halls, why weren't they "rattling chains in the attic" when it was a full operational hospital serving the living? I don't recall hearing about stories from St Joseph nurses claiming "the thermometer moved on its own...I swear." Lol. Wouldn't ANY hospital in the metro be "haunted" then, as they ALL have served now deceased people? (And, if somebody's looking for an experience, I wonder if they can only blame themselves for attracting it.) I wouldn't be afraid to move in, myself. That building is likeable, imo. (Did they build a new, arching pedestrian bridge across the interstate?!)
I can get pushed out because I'm "too much" for some. Then, an observer of me comes suddenly swooping in to "fill my shoes." People are always more accepting of the new one, because their feathers aren't truly ruffled by them. (Yawn) I can count on it every time.
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Uffda wrote: Mon Apr 09, 2018 10:50 pm Drive by or is that Drive Under photos on the way home this afternoon.

The span on the west side is up —sorry no photo. But it looks good. Looks like they have a small piece to go from the west tower to the building and the east tower still needs the elevator and stairs done.
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Bridge looks amazing!!!
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Big "Creighton" sign up in the south side of the east pillar.
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Anyone have any recent pics?
I know its kinda hard to take a photo on the interstate
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I bet some of those rooms & apartments are so cool. I'm wondering if they have cool angles within, like the building? That building: It's almost like I think I shouldn't like it. But, I do like it. It's great design in many ways -- almost modern & brutalist-looking both, imo.
I can get pushed out because I'm "too much" for some. Then, an observer of me comes suddenly swooping in to "fill my shoes." People are always more accepting of the new one, because their feathers aren't truly ruffled by them. (Yawn) I can count on it every time.
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mistergutierrez wrote: Thu May 03, 2018 3:09 pm Bridge Creighton.jpg
Big "Creighton" sign up in the south side of the east pillar.


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Nice! Thanks for all the photos!
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I have to say, I'm highly impressed with the bridge portion itself. First off, its pedestrian bridge over a busy highway. I think the only other one we have is a little farther north on this same freeway. Then to think about how many organizations had to collaborate to get this approved, and so quickly and smoothly. The developer, the constructor, Creighton, the city, NDOT, USDOT. This to me is a sure symbol of Omaha's stepping up.
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I'm impressed too. I'm glad they didn't just construct a simpler uglier heavy-handed bridge, but instead attempted to make it attractive as well as expressive of the efficient structural design. It would be interesting to know how much it cost, including the architectural/engineering design fees and the time required from conceptual design through to completion of construction.
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Impressive indeed..

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Busguy2010 wrote: Mon May 07, 2018 8:03 pm I have to say, I'm highly impressed with the bridge portion itself. First off, its pedestrian bridge over a busy highway. I think the only other one we have is a little farther north on this same freeway. Then to think about how many organizations had to collaborate to get this approved, and so quickly and smoothly. The developer, the constructor, Creighton, the city, NDOT, USDOT. This to me is a sure symbol of Omaha's stepping up.
I don't think this is a sign of Omaha "stepping up" at all. HDR is the designer and this is a fairly rudimentary project for coordinating. If you compare to some other projects nationally, this is extremely small.
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GetUrban wrote: Mon May 07, 2018 8:41 pm I'm impressed too. I'm glad they didn't just construct a simpler uglier heavy-handed bridge, but instead attempted to make it attractive as well as expressive of the efficient structural design. It would be interesting to know how much it cost, including the architectural/engineering design fees and the time required from conceptual design through to completion of construction.
Based on comparable projects, about $5-10 million total cost. Design fees are dependent on a lot of things, but typically are about 10 percent, two-three years design to completion.
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obvious2677 wrote: Tue May 08, 2018 8:40 pm I don't think this is a sign of Omaha "stepping up" at all. HDR is the designer and this is a fairly rudimentary project for coordinating. If you compare to some other projects nationally, this is extremely small.
This is a first for Omaha. This is impressive for Omaha. I don't know if you know our history of hardheadedness, but approving a simple pedestrian bridge over a highway is a step up for us. Fairly obvious this is insignificant nationally.
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Busguy2010 wrote: Wed May 09, 2018 6:06 am
obvious2677 wrote: Tue May 08, 2018 8:40 pm I don't think this is a sign of Omaha "stepping up" at all. HDR is the designer and this is a fairly rudimentary project for coordinating. If you compare to some other projects nationally, this is extremely small.
This is a first for Omaha. This is impressive for Omaha. I don't know if you know our history of hardheadedness, but approving a simple pedestrian bridge over a highway is a step up for us. Fairly obvious this is insignificant nationally.
Hmmmm... disagree. If you're talking working with local, state and federal organizations - the list for Bob Kerrey is significantly longer than this project.
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obvious2677 wrote: Tue May 08, 2018 8:44 pm
GetUrban wrote: Mon May 07, 2018 8:41 pm I'm impressed too. I'm glad they didn't just construct a simpler uglier heavy-handed bridge, but instead attempted to make it attractive as well as expressive of the efficient structural design. It would be interesting to know how much it cost, including the architectural/engineering design fees and the time required from conceptual design through to completion of construction.
Based on comparable projects, about $5-10 million total cost. Design fees are dependent on a lot of things, but typically are about 10 percent, two-three years design to completion.
I'm more interested in the actual $ amounts, rather than a 100%-range "ballpark" estimate, but I agree it's probably safe to say somewhere in that range.

Considering the project size of the conversion from hospital to apartments, plus the pedestrian bridge, the overall project has all happened amazingly quick. The hospital wasn't even vacated until June 2017 and the project design plan went public in May of 2016, according to info in this thread.

I agree the Bob Kerrey bridge was a much more complicated project involving many more entities, including more federal, state, city, etc., government agencies.
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The other day, I noticed they added the small piece from the west tower to the Atlas. I know on the East side there is an elevator and stairs - not sure I would want to carry my bike down/up those stairs.
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obvious2677 wrote: Wed May 09, 2018 12:04 pm Hmmmm... disagree. If you're talking working with local, state and federal organizations - the list for Bob Kerrey is significantly longer than this project.
Okay. I wasn't comparing this to anything to begin with, and you don't have to be impressed.
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Busguy2010 wrote: Wed May 09, 2018 4:40 pm
obvious2677 wrote: Wed May 09, 2018 12:04 pm Hmmmm... disagree. If you're talking working with local, state and federal organizations - the list for Bob Kerrey is significantly longer than this project.
Okay. I wasn't comparing this to anything to begin with, and you don't have to be impressed.
Color me impressed anyway. While the actual scale of the project isn't gigantic, I'm elated for the urban design and socioeconomic implications -- this will connect pedestrians from the Gifford Park neighborhood to the Creighton campus, and by extension, to North Downtown and vice versa.
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GetUrban wrote: Wed May 09, 2018 2:14 pm
obvious2677 wrote: Tue May 08, 2018 8:44 pm
GetUrban wrote: Mon May 07, 2018 8:41 pm I'm impressed too. I'm glad they didn't just construct a simpler uglier heavy-handed bridge, but instead attempted to make it attractive as well as expressive of the efficient structural design. It would be interesting to know how much it cost, including the architectural/engineering design fees and the time required from conceptual design through to completion of construction.
Based on comparable projects, about $5-10 million total cost. Design fees are dependent on a lot of things, but typically are about 10 percent, two-three years design to completion.
I'm more interested in the actual $ amounts, rather than a 100%-range "ballpark" estimate, but I agree it's probably safe to say somewhere in that range.
Without an insider source at the developer, there's no way to know that. I know the design fee, but cannot share. Sorry.
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I’m impressed by the bridge given that most other infrastructure built around the has zero emphasis on aesthetics. If you drive through Des Moines they have TONS of more architecturally interesting bridges that look like the city is actually trying to look good. Just looks at the few places that actually had money spent on the and their gathering places for people ie: bob bridge
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Creighton president blesses pedestrian bridge, a ‘symbol of unity’ spanning North Freeway

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Campus architect Coale Johnson said that when the bridge opens, the public will have access from 7 a.m. to 10 p.m. Small gutters are on the side of the stairs on the Creighton end so that bicyclists may walk their two-wheelers down the steps.

There will also be an elevator in Creighton’s tower. The bridge will be accessible to the public on each end.

The bridge is roughly at 27th Street and Wareham Parkway. It rises 40 to 50 feet over the freeway, depending on the grade below.
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Not sure if it's been mentioned here, but I believe 30th Street will be on a "road diet" next year - as in, it's planned to shrink the street to a more reasonable size being that CUMC will not be around for huge amounts of traffic.
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obvious2677 wrote: Fri Aug 31, 2018 12:14 pm Not sure if it's been mentioned here, but I believe 30th Street will be on a "road diet" next year - as in, it's planned to shrink the street to a more reasonable size being that CUMC will not be around for huge amounts of traffic.
I think it's just from north of Cuming to Ames. It would be super expensive to do that south of Cuming where there's that big median. They've already started doing it from Parker to Lake by the 75 North development
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ProgKingHughesker wrote: Fri Aug 31, 2018 1:08 pm
obvious2677 wrote: Fri Aug 31, 2018 12:14 pm Not sure if it's been mentioned here, but I believe 30th Street will be on a "road diet" next year - as in, it's planned to shrink the street to a more reasonable size being that CUMC will not be around for huge amounts of traffic.
I think it's just from north of Cuming to Ames. It would be super expensive to do that south of Cuming where there's that big median. They've already started doing it from Parker to Lake by the 75 North development
Sorry - yes, you're correct. There is a development plan for 30th south of Cuming - but that is going to be much bigger because the plan involves relocating the interstate ramps that currently terminate at 30th. It would move them to terminate basically where the Burger King is on Dodge.
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obvious2677 wrote: Fri Aug 31, 2018 1:41 pm
ProgKingHughesker wrote: Fri Aug 31, 2018 1:08 pm
obvious2677 wrote: Fri Aug 31, 2018 12:14 pm Not sure if it's been mentioned here, but I believe 30th Street will be on a "road diet" next year - as in, it's planned to shrink the street to a more reasonable size being that CUMC will not be around for huge amounts of traffic.
I think it's just from north of Cuming to Ames. It would be super expensive to do that south of Cuming where there's that big median. They've already started doing it from Parker to Lake by the 75 North development
Sorry - yes, you're correct. There is a development plan for 30th south of Cuming - but that is going to be much bigger because the plan involves relocating the interstate ramps that currently terminate at 30th. It would move them to terminate basically where the Burger King is on Dodge.
Do you have any images showing the proposed configuration? That would free up a ton of unused land
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obvious2677 wrote: Fri Aug 31, 2018 1:41 pm
ProgKingHughesker wrote: Fri Aug 31, 2018 1:08 pm
obvious2677 wrote: Fri Aug 31, 2018 12:14 pm Not sure if it's been mentioned here, but I believe 30th Street will be on a "road diet" next year - as in, it's planned to shrink the street to a more reasonable size being that CUMC will not be around for huge amounts of traffic.
I think it's just from north of Cuming to Ames. It would be super expensive to do that south of Cuming where there's that big median. They've already started doing it from Parker to Lake by the 75 North development
Sorry - yes, you're correct. There is a development plan for 30th south of Cuming - but that is going to be much bigger because the plan involves relocating the interstate ramps that currently terminate at 30th. It would move them to terminate basically where the Burger King is on Dodge.
That’s good to hear. Do you know if NDOR has been in the discussions for this plan? I feel like they tend to hoard land and would want to hold on to the property near 30th just in case.
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I've always hoped they would move the offramps from 30th to Dodge. That whole area just has so much wasted space.
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Taco wrote: Fri Aug 31, 2018 3:11 pm
obvious2677 wrote: Fri Aug 31, 2018 1:41 pm
ProgKingHughesker wrote: Fri Aug 31, 2018 1:08 pm
obvious2677 wrote: Fri Aug 31, 2018 12:14 pm Not sure if it's been mentioned here, but I believe 30th Street will be on a "road diet" next year - as in, it's planned to shrink the street to a more reasonable size being that CUMC will not be around for huge amounts of traffic.
I think it's just from north of Cuming to Ames. It would be super expensive to do that south of Cuming where there's that big median. They've already started doing it from Parker to Lake by the 75 North development
Sorry - yes, you're correct. There is a development plan for 30th south of Cuming - but that is going to be much bigger because the plan involves relocating the interstate ramps that currently terminate at 30th. It would move them to terminate basically where the Burger King is on Dodge.
Do you have any images showing the proposed configuration? That would free up a ton of unused land
It's part of the Gifford Park Master Plan. If you can find that online... Being that I do not know if it was publicly released, I cannot share. Sorry (I would like to keep my job).
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TitosBuritoBarn wrote: Fri Aug 31, 2018 4:38 pm
obvious2677 wrote: Fri Aug 31, 2018 1:41 pm
ProgKingHughesker wrote: Fri Aug 31, 2018 1:08 pm
obvious2677 wrote: Fri Aug 31, 2018 12:14 pm Not sure if it's been mentioned here, but I believe 30th Street will be on a "road diet" next year - as in, it's planned to shrink the street to a more reasonable size being that CUMC will not be around for huge amounts of traffic.
I think it's just from north of Cuming to Ames. It would be super expensive to do that south of Cuming where there's that big median. They've already started doing it from Parker to Lake by the 75 North development
Sorry - yes, you're correct. There is a development plan for 30th south of Cuming - but that is going to be much bigger because the plan involves relocating the interstate ramps that currently terminate at 30th. It would move them to terminate basically where the Burger King is on Dodge.
That’s good to hear. Do you know if NDOR has been in the discussions for this plan? I feel like they tend to hoard land and would want to hold on to the property near 30th just in case.
It's part of the Gifford Park Master Plan (which has other parts of it already being developed) and the Nebraska Department of Transportation (They changed their name last year) had someone represented I believe. We'll see if it ever actually happens.... or will die like many other [good] ideas in master plans around town.
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One of the bay's will have a Restaurant/ Bar called The Fly Bar. A coffee shop has also leased a small bay.
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