Moxy Hotel to replace OM Diner

skinzfan23 · Post by **skinzfan23** » Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:57 pm

TIF was approved by the City Council.

Construction is supposed to start after the CWS this year.

nebraska · Post by **nebraska** » Fri Jun 29, 2018 6:04 pm

https://m.facebook.com/DinerOmaha

The Diner closes this Sunday.

iamjacobm · Post by **iamjacobm** » Fri Jun 29, 2018 6:59 pm

nebraska wrote: Fri Jun 29, 2018 6:04 pm https://m.facebook.com/DinerOmaha

The Diner closes this Sunday.

Interesting that they are taking over the grill at Billy Frogs and opening a coffee shop next door. Not a bad news for them.

RockHarbor · Post by **RockHarbor** » Fri Jun 29, 2018 8:21 pm

Cool!

Post by **Brad** » Fri Jul 06, 2018 3:52 am

I went down a couple Saturday's ago to get a few photos before the diner closed.

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RockHarbor · Post by **RockHarbor** » Fri Jul 06, 2018 5:18 am

How is this Moxy Hotel gonna fit on that corner? Is it gonna be 5-10 stories with no parking or something? Speaking of lots that seem too small, how is that motel/hotel coming along on that tight lot right on Saddle Creek and Dodge? I forget the name...

obvious2677 · Post by **obvious2677** » Fri Jul 06, 2018 2:31 pm

RockHarbor wrote: Fri Jul 06, 2018 5:18 am How is this Moxy Hotel gonna fit on that corner? Is it gonna be 5-10 stories with no parking or something? Speaking of lots that seem too small, how is that motel/hotel coming along on that tight lot right on Saddle Creek and Dodge? I forget the name...

There's a parking garage across the street.

Louie · Post by **Louie** » Fri Jul 06, 2018 2:54 pm

RockHarbor wrote: Fri Jul 06, 2018 5:18 am How is this Moxy Hotel gonna fit on that corner? Is it gonna be 5-10 stories with no parking or something? Speaking of lots that seem too small, how is that motel/hotel coming along on that tight lot right on Saddle Creek and Dodge? I forget the name...

Moxy will be 6 stories, the hotel at Saddle Creek and Dodge is about 2 1/2 stories up so far. About level to Dodge St now.

RockHarbor · Post by **RockHarbor** » Fri Jul 06, 2018 4:31 pm

Thanks for the info guys.

(Im surprised the construction on that Dodge/Saddle Creek hotel is going so slow.) I like that name "Moxy Hotel." It sounds retro. I'm imagining a retro, vintage type sign.

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Fri Jul 06, 2018 5:28 pm

Brad wrote: Fri Jul 06, 2018 3:52 am I went down a couple Saturday's ago to get a few photos before the diner closed.

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2.

The Diner breakfast tradition continues on across the street at Billy Froggs..

Nice pics Brad

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Ciao..LiO...Peace

Louie · Post by **Louie** » Fri Jul 06, 2018 5:53 pm

Omaha Cowboy wrote: Fri Jul 06, 2018 5:28 pm
The Diner breakfast tradition continues on across the street at Billy Froggs..

Nice pics Brad ...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

Billy Frogs has diner-esque breakfast food?

RockHarbor · Post by **RockHarbor** » Fri Jul 06, 2018 8:00 pm

Yeah, what have I missed? My life never involved that place. What is this breakfast tradition?

iamjacobm · Post by **iamjacobm** » Fri Jul 06, 2018 8:53 pm

The Diner crew is moving over there.

Louie · Post by **Louie** » Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:06 pm

iamjacobm wrote: Fri Jul 06, 2018 8:53 pm The Diner crew is moving over there.

Interesting. I knew they had a kitchen back there I just always imbibed on their booze any time I had been there. They do have a decent patio.

ricko · Post by **ricko** » Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:51 am

Looks like Marriott might get this right. The design as shown fits the neighborhood, unlike that eyesore Hyatt Place a couple of blocks away.

RockHarbor · Post by **RockHarbor** » Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:58 am

ricko wrote: Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:51 am Looks like Marriott might get this right. The design as shown fits the neighborhood, unlike that eyesore Hyatt Place a couple of blocks away.

Really? You dont like it? I think it was a sharp addition to Downtown Omaha. In fact, before I read this, I was looking at a picture I took a summer or two ago, and thinking about how well they matched the lines & colors with nearby buildings on the same block. You can really see it in this picture. Personally, Im so delighted with that addition to Omaha. Yet, our different opinions keep things interesting, imo.... (Omaha's color theme that presses in on me, between our old brick buildings & many of our modern white buildings, is a white, black/grey, brown/red theme. Basically, that color set was all used here.)

mcarch · Post by **mcarch** » Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:01 am

RockHarbor wrote: Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:58 am
ricko wrote: Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:51 am Looks like Marriott might get this right. The design as shown fits the neighborhood, unlike that eyesore Hyatt Place a couple of blocks away.
Really? You dont like it? I think it was a sharp addition to Downtown Omaha. In fact, before I read this, I was looking at a picture I took a summer or two ago, and thinking about how well they matched the lines & colors with nearby buildings on the same block. You can really see it in this picture. Personally, Im so delighted with that addition to Omaha. Yet, our different opinions keep things interesting, imo.... (Omaha's color theme that presses in on me, between our old brick buildings & many of our modern white buildings, is a white, black/grey, brown/red theme. Basically, that color set was all used here.)

I like it too. My boyfriend hates it. Stayed there for our wedding and the views were spectacular and the service was great.

RockHarbor · Post by **RockHarbor** » Wed Jul 11, 2018 12:23 am

mcarch wrote: Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:01 am
RockHarbor wrote: Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:58 am
ricko wrote: Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:51 am Looks like Marriott might get this right. The design as shown fits the neighborhood, unlike that eyesore Hyatt Place a couple of blocks away.
Really? You dont like it? I think it was a sharp addition to Downtown Omaha. In fact, before I read this, I was looking at a picture I took a summer or two ago, and thinking about how well they matched the lines & colors with nearby buildings on the same block. You can really see it in this picture. Personally, Im so delighted with that addition to Omaha. Yet, our different opinions keep things interesting, imo.... (Omaha's color theme that presses in on me, between our old brick buildings & many of our modern white buildings, is a white, black/grey, brown/red theme. Basically, that color set was all used here.)

I like it too. My boyfriend hates it. Stayed there for our wedding and the views were spectacular and the service was great.

Yeah, what's there not to like? I don't get it. It is sharp, it is clean. It is nice-looking. It has great views. It has a nice lobby area. It has the "Hyatt" name. I don't get what is not to like.

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:25 am

RockHarbor wrote: Wed Jul 11, 2018 12:23 am
mcarch wrote: Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:01 am
RockHarbor wrote: Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:58 am
ricko wrote: Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:51 am Looks like Marriott might get this right. The design as shown fits the neighborhood, unlike that eyesore Hyatt Place a couple of blocks away.
Really? You dont like it? I think it was a sharp addition to Downtown Omaha. In fact, before I read this, I was looking at a picture I took a summer or two ago, and thinking about how well they matched the lines & colors with nearby buildings on the same block. You can really see it in this picture. Personally, Im so delighted with that addition to Omaha. Yet, our different opinions keep things interesting, imo.... (Omaha's color theme that presses in on me, between our old brick buildings & many of our modern white buildings, is a white, black/grey, brown/red theme. Basically, that color set was all used here.)

I like it too. My boyfriend hates it. Stayed there for our wedding and the views were spectacular and the service was great.
Yeah, what's there not to like? I don't get it. It is sharp, it is clean. It is nice-looking. It has great views. It has a nice lobby area. It has the "Hyatt" name. I don't get what is not to like.

I’m with you both. I’ve always liked the hotel and it has a pleasant look that blends in pretty well with the Old Market..

But I also know some who see it differently and that’s fine. To each their own...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

Linkin5 · Post by **Linkin5** » Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:32 am

I like the building except for the west side which is a big wall with no windows.

Louie · Post by **Louie** » Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:57 pm

Was ar Billy Froggs last night and the owner/manager of The Diner was working there. They must have moved employees over and begun using Froggs kitchen.

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:23 pm

Louie wrote: Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:57 pm Was ar Billy Froggs last night and the owner/manager of The Diner was working there. They must have moved employees over and begun using Froggs kitchen.

They sure did.. Keeping up old Diner breakfast tradition...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

ItsAllAboutMe · Post by **ItsAllAboutMe** » Tue Mar 12, 2019 12:58 pm

I curious about the status of this project. Construction should have started last summer.

swgiust · Post by **swgiust** » Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:38 pm

Went to Blue on Saturday night and looked over. The Diner is still there. Kinda broken up and no signs, but the building is still there. No sign of any construction.

Cermak · Post by **Cermak** » Wed Mar 20, 2019 6:53 pm

I drove by it the other day. Doesn’t look like anythings happening, it’s actually sorta a eyesore right now. I am a little concerned, wonder if financing is in limbo?

Post by **Brad** » Tue Apr 02, 2019 4:17 am

Still in the works and moving forward. Just making some tweaks to the plans.

nativeomahan · Post by **nativeomahan** » Tue Apr 02, 2019 3:48 pm

Brad wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2019 4:17 am Still in the works and moving forward. Just making some tweaks to the plans.

April Foolin’?

nativeomahan · Post by **nativeomahan** » Sun Apr 07, 2019 9:37 pm

I spoke today with one of the owners of The Diner restaurant, that was essentially kicked out of their restaurant building when the building was sold to a hotel developer last summer. I asked about the total lack of progress on any hotel. He advised me that the new property owner wanted the city to pay the $800,000 or so in estimated costs to remove old fuel tanks from beneath the parking lot. (Apparently at one time the building housed a gas station.). The city refused, and the developer decided that the project was no longer financially viable. So now he is sitting on unused property.

TitosBuritoBarn · Post by **TitosBuritoBarn** » Sun Apr 07, 2019 11:53 pm

Don’t brownfield cleanup grants, whatever they’re called, exist for this purpose?

ScrattyB · Post by **ScrattyB** » Mon Apr 08, 2019 3:22 pm

409 S 12 ST was purchased for $1.5 million. Douglas county assessed it at $377,200 and the annual property taxes are $8,110.44.

The owner is paying $675 a month for it to sit there. If I were the owner, I would wait for free money too.

Louie · Post by **Louie** » Mon Apr 08, 2019 5:51 pm

nativeomahan wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2019 9:37 pm I spoke today with one of the owners of The Diner restaurant, that was essentially kicked out of their restaurant building when the building was sold to a hotel developer last summer. I asked about the total lack of progress on any hotel. He advised me that the new property owner wanted the city to pay the $800,000 or so in estimated costs to remove old fuel tanks from beneath the parking lot. (Apparently at one time the building housed a gas station.). The city refused, and the developer decided that the project was no longer financially viable. So now he is sitting on unused property.

Why did he buy it in the first place? He would have been privy to the gas tanks being there and if he had half a noodle in his skull he would have done some research into whether the city would move them.

nativeomahan · Post by **nativeomahan** » Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:17 pm

Louie wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2019 5:51 pm
nativeomahan wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2019 9:37 pm I spoke today with one of the owners of The Diner restaurant, that was essentially kicked out of their restaurant building when the building was sold to a hotel developer last summer. I asked about the total lack of progress on any hotel. He advised me that the new property owner wanted the city to pay the $800,000 or so in estimated costs to remove old fuel tanks from beneath the parking lot. (Apparently at one time the building housed a gas station.). The city refused, and the developer decided that the project was no longer financially viable. So now he is sitting on unused property.
Why did he buy it in the first place? He would have been privy to the gas tanks being there and if he had half a noodle in his skull he would have done some research into whether the city would move them.

From what I was told, he knew about the tanks, and the removal costs. He was told by people in the know that he would have to remove them before a hotel could be constructed on top. He insisted that he would talk the city into paying for the removal. The city had other ideas.

ita · Post by **ita** » Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:34 pm

nativeomahan wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:17 pm
Louie wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2019 5:51 pm
nativeomahan wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2019 9:37 pm I spoke today with one of the owners of The Diner restaurant, that was essentially kicked out of their restaurant building when the building was sold to a hotel developer last summer. I asked about the total lack of progress on any hotel. He advised me that the new property owner wanted the city to pay the $800,000 or so in estimated costs to remove old fuel tanks from beneath the parking lot. (Apparently at one time the building housed a gas station.). The city refused, and the developer decided that the project was no longer financially viable. So now he is sitting on unused property.
Why did he buy it in the first place? He would have been privy to the gas tanks being there and if he had half a noodle in his skull he would have done some research into whether the city would move them.
From what I was told, he knew about the tanks, and the removal costs. He was told by people in the know that he would have to remove them before a hotel could be constructed on top. He insisted that he would talk the city into paying for the removal. The city had other ideas.

Soooo, what's next for this site? Earlier posts from 2007 had condos in mind and now the Moxy hotel fell through. Are we going to end up with an empty lot with underground tanks that no one wants to touch? I am not sure the cost of removal, but it would seem like a small investment for a prime spot in downtown. Though, it's too bad there is a height restriction.

Louie · Post by **Louie** » Mon Apr 08, 2019 11:37 pm

nativeomahan wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:17 pm
Louie wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2019 5:51 pm
nativeomahan wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2019 9:37 pm I spoke today with one of the owners of The Diner restaurant, that was essentially kicked out of their restaurant building when the building was sold to a hotel developer last summer. I asked about the total lack of progress on any hotel. He advised me that the new property owner wanted the city to pay the $800,000 or so in estimated costs to remove old fuel tanks from beneath the parking lot. (Apparently at one time the building housed a gas station.). The city refused, and the developer decided that the project was no longer financially viable. So now he is sitting on unused property.
Why did he buy it in the first place? He would have been privy to the gas tanks being there and if he had half a noodle in his skull he would have done some research into whether the city would move them.
From what I was told, he knew about the tanks, and the removal costs. He was told by people in the know that he would have to remove them before a hotel could be constructed on top. He insisted that he would talk the city into paying for the removal. The city had other ideas.

Well I don’t know him, but I definitely think he’s an idiot and a jerk.

Bob from Omaha · Post by **Bob from Omaha** » Mon Apr 08, 2019 11:43 pm

Louie wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2019 11:37 pm
nativeomahan wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:17 pm
Louie wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2019 5:51 pm
nativeomahan wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2019 9:37 pm I spoke today with one of the owners of The Diner restaurant, that was essentially kicked out of their restaurant building when the building was sold to a hotel developer last summer. I asked about the total lack of progress on any hotel. He advised me that the new property owner wanted the city to pay the $800,000 or so in estimated costs to remove old fuel tanks from beneath the parking lot. (Apparently at one time the building housed a gas station.). The city refused, and the developer decided that the project was no longer financially viable. So now he is sitting on unused property.
Why did he buy it in the first place? He would have been privy to the gas tanks being there and if he had half a noodle in his skull he would have done some research into whether the city would move them.
From what I was told, he knew about the tanks, and the removal costs. He was told by people in the know that he would have to remove them before a hotel could be constructed on top. He insisted that he would talk the city into paying for the removal. The city had other ideas.
Well I don’t know him, but I definitely think he’s an idiot and a jerk.

He took a shot. Now he's sitting on potentially profitable land. Some would have worked with the city before buying it, or at least getting an idea if it was something the city had an interest in.

swgiust · Post by **swgiust** » Tue Apr 09, 2019 3:31 pm

I removed two underground gas tanks from an old gas station that now houses my business. It cost me $ 15,000. I don't understand why that is so high.

daveoma · Post by **daveoma** » Thu Apr 11, 2019 10:48 pm

swgiust wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 3:31 pm I removed two underground gas tanks from an old gas station that now houses my business. It cost me $ 15,000. I don't understand why that is so high.

This sounds like a good story for local media to cover.

Louie · Post by **Louie** » Fri Apr 12, 2019 2:30 pm

daveoma wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2019 10:48 pm
swgiust wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 3:31 pm I removed two underground gas tanks from an old gas station that now houses my business. It cost me $ 15,000. I don't understand why that is so high.
This sounds like a good story for local media to cover.

Where’s Mike McKnight?!

Joe_Sovereign · Post by **Joe_Sovereign** » Fri Apr 12, 2019 2:50 pm

I don't like giving out million dollar advice for free but it sounds like he already has half a gas station built on the site.

PWL73316 · Post by **PWL73316** » Fri Apr 12, 2019 11:49 pm

Joe_Sovereign wrote: Fri Apr 12, 2019 2:50 pm I don't like giving out million dollar advice for free but it sounds like he already has half a gas station built on the site.

Never really thought about this before but there is absolutely a market for a downtown-ish gas station that isn't super sketch and with prices triple what they are everywhere else. Somebody please lure a QuikTrip into the core of the city, they can do their usual "unofficial" policy of free drinks for cops, of which there are always a ton downtown, and actually be a decent downtown option for everybody else. Especially without a grocery store, a half-decent convenience store would make a killing.

The current options are extremely overpriced and extremely shady, and they still stick around. Now that so many more people live downtown, you could make up the price in volume, even if you see a few more sticky fingers.