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They always have. Blame those idiots at Nielsenmrsticka wrote: Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:47 pmDefinitely not. It just proves what I said last year. People here in Lincoln like to watch the Omaha stations.Padre wrote: Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:13 pmLooking at the emojis on the article, people are not happy!mrsticka wrote: Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:29 pm Well, this isn't good news:
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Omaha Cowboy wrote: Fri Jun 15, 2018 6:54 amThey always have. Blame those idiots at Nielsenmrsticka wrote: Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:47 pmDefinitely not. It just proves what I said last year. People here in Lincoln like to watch the Omaha stations.Padre wrote: Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:13 pmLooking at the emojis on the article, people are not happy!mrsticka wrote: Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:29 pm Well, this isn't good news:
https://journalstar.com/entertainment/t ... f572f.html
Omaha/Lincoln should be one television market...
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Of course it isn’t right..mrsticka wrote: Sun Jun 17, 2018 12:53 am Lincoln is much closer to Omaha than they are to Grand Island, Hastings and Kearney. Yet, Lincoln's part of their market. That just ain't right.
I know places can be moved from one market to another. I remember Durango Colorado petitioning to move to Denver's TV market from Farmington, NM, because they wanted Colorado news. But have they ever made adjustments of this size before?Omaha Cowboy wrote: Sun Jun 17, 2018 10:03 amOf course it isn’t right..mrsticka wrote: Sun Jun 17, 2018 12:53 am Lincoln is much closer to Omaha than they are to Grand Island, Hastings and Kearney. Yet, Lincoln's part of their market. That just ain't right.
That’s why I told you a couple of years ago to write Nielsen and express your opinion/concern.. How far did that get you?..
They don’t want to listen.. But- If the US Census redefines MSA and CSA components as they are expected to do later this year..and they combine Omaha/Lincoln into the same CSA (this depends on hitting the 15% commute number between the 2 core cities), then Nielsen will have to take notice of that happenstance and (hopefully) adjust accordingly...
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And didn't ABQ try to stop that move? Something about not losing sales revenue?Padre wrote: Sun Jun 17, 2018 12:41 pmI know places can be moved from one market to another. I remember Durango Colorado petitioning to move to Denver's TV market from Farmington, NM, because they wanted Colorado news. But have they ever made adjustments of this size before?
I think at this point, the only hope for a combined Omaha/Lincoln television market, is if the US Census redefines the CSA and combines Omaha/Lincoln.. If that happens, it’s going to be hard for Nielsen to justify and ignore...Padre wrote: Sun Jun 17, 2018 12:41 pmI know places can be moved from one market to another. I remember Durango Colorado petitioning to move to Denver's TV market from Farmington, NM, because they wanted Colorado news. But have they ever made adjustments of this size before?Omaha Cowboy wrote: Sun Jun 17, 2018 10:03 amOf course it isn’t right..mrsticka wrote: Sun Jun 17, 2018 12:53 am Lincoln is much closer to Omaha than they are to Grand Island, Hastings and Kearney. Yet, Lincoln's part of their market. That just ain't right.
That’s why I told you a couple of years ago to write Nielsen and express your opinion/concern.. How far did that get you?..
They don’t want to listen.. But- If the US Census redefines MSA and CSA components as they are expected to do later this year..and they combine Omaha/Lincoln into the same CSA (this depends on hitting the 15% commute number between the 2 core cities), then Nielsen will have to take notice of that happenstance and (hopefully) adjust accordingly...
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LOL, nothing new on 6. I remember when they use to play viewers voicemails.RanDumb wrote: Mon Jun 25, 2018 7:35 pm 1) When did it become "news" to have someone stand at what is nothing but a big monitor are read out loud twitter feeds?
The Traffic guy on 6 in the mornings is awful. He talks like he just moved to Omaha and NEVER been anywhere in Omaha. He has zero concept of how our streets layout. Always hear stuff like Southbound on Center, Eastbound on 72nd Street. Car stalled in the northbound lanes of dodge...RanDumb wrote: Mon Jun 25, 2018 7:35 pm 2) What is the point to have someone report traffic, but they are basically reporting google maps, but then turn it over to a real traffic reporter to get the no kidding traffic?
I'm really surprised they haven't filled that spot yet. Seems like a big enough market they should be able to find someone decent. I'm guessing if they were going with an internal candidate, the would have made that move by now.RanDumb wrote: Mon Jun 25, 2018 7:35 pm 3) What is with the random spot rotations of channel 6? It seems like every week a different anchor is in a different time slot.
Because it's cheaper than producing and presenting a real local news production. What's really sad is that the people in the Omaha area (and the local sponsors) accept that kind of drek as a local news production.RanDumb wrote: Mon Jun 25, 2018 7:35 pm So I may be off since I have returned to Omaha after living in a few bigger TV markets, but I have a couple questions...
1) When did it become "news" to have someone stand at what is nothing but a big monitor are read out loud twitter feeds?
2) What is the point to have someone report traffic, but they are basically reporting google maps, but then turn it over to a real traffic reporter to get the no kidding traffic?
I was under the impression that Gill got the spot, but then I saw her on Sunday afternoon, so I don't know. Maybe Big 6 has a poison reputation. (Maybe? LOLOL)Brad wrote: Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:04 pmI'm really surprised they haven't filled that spot yet. Seems like a big enough market they should be able to find someone decent. I'm guessing if they were going with an internal candidate, the would have made that move by now.RanDumb wrote: Mon Jun 25, 2018 7:35 pm 3) What is with the random spot rotations of channel 6? It seems like every week a different anchor is in a different time slot.
The Traffic guy on 6 in the mornings is awful. He talks like he just moved to Omaha and NEVER been anywhere in Omaha. He has zero concept of how our streets layout. Always hear stuff like Southbound on Center, Eastbound on 72nd Street. Car stalled in the northbound lanes of dodge...Brad wrote: Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:04 pm 2) What is the point to have someone report traffic, but they are basically reporting google maps, but then turn it over to a real traffic reporter to get the no kidding traffic?
As of earlier this week, she was. Sadly.omaharocks wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 8:37 am Channel 6 introduced a new Daybreak meteorologist this morning - Mallory Schnell. Is Peta Sheerwood still at the station?
Does that include NBC? They haven't changed their Peacock logo since the 80's. What about CBS? They're still using the same Eye logo they've been using for decades now. Or ABC? They still have the same ABC logo they've been using since at least the 70's.Garrett wrote: Sun Jul 22, 2018 7:00 am I’m not quoting that because that is a wall of text, but any company would be insane not to update their logo since the 80s.
I wouldn't lift a finger calling the station. Either I'm out chasing, in the bear's cage trying not to get killed, or I'm at home with my pundit cap on. Got nothing against Lord Rusty, but J. Zep is my girl.GrandpaaSmucker wrote: Mon Jul 23, 2018 5:27 pm I hate to break in on this love fest that some have with the newscasters especially the guys with man crushes on Rusty. A guy I know that lives by Louisville says that he caught on video the tornado that went through there a few weeks back from start to finish. He looks at the TV and WOWT is reporting the tornado like its right in the middle of happening even though its long gone. He calls the station up and gets Rusty on the phone and he says "Hey the tornado is long over but I got it on video do you want it?" Rusty says no I don't want it and you need to get off then phone and take cover. My buddy tells Rusty the storm has passed out here but anyway I got it on video from start to finish so I'll send it to you. Rusty tells my friend he don't care about the video go take cover and hangs up. Can you say FAKE WEATHER FORECASTS?
For as much as each station pays for their SuperDuperWhopperDoppler, it's going to be right even when it's wrong.GrandpaaSmucker wrote: Mon Jul 23, 2018 5:27 pmI have seen Bill Ranby pull this stunt a few times too. He will be on the TV saying that the front end of the storm should just about be hitting Chalco Hills in Millard now and the storm front actually passed through 5 minutes ago.
Why in TF are you watching CNN? I hardly watch FOX, either. FOX Business is as much as I can stomach.GrandpaaSmucker wrote: Mon Jul 23, 2018 5:27 pmCaught some FAKE NEWS CNN today. They were reporting that sunk Duck Boat in Branson had just got pulled out of the Missouri River
So which was it. Did the anchor misspeak, or did Frost not want to look like an idiot for mistakenly throwing something out?GrandpaaSmucker wrote: Mon Jul 30, 2018 6:32 pm Tonight on the 6PM KETV news they reported that it turns out Scott Frost's 14 championship rings were not stolen and he had found them in his garbage. They said it 2 different times. Later they end the broadcast saying they had made a mistake and the rings were found in Scott Frost's garage not his garbage.
This happens when either 1. The reporter is his own editor or 2. There is no editor.bbinks wrote: Mon Jul 30, 2018 10:56 pmSo which was it. Did the anchor misspeak, or did Frost not want to look like an idiot for mistakenly throwing something out?GrandpaaSmucker wrote: Mon Jul 30, 2018 6:32 pm Tonight on the 6PM KETV news they reported that it turns out Scott Frost's 14 championship rings were not stolen and he had found them in his garbage. They said it 2 different times. Later they end the broadcast saying they had made a mistake and the rings were found in Scott Frost's garage not his garbage.
... Agreed...twenty years ago, this would have been reported differently and we'd have heard the final version and that's it.Omaha Cowboy wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 2:21 pm Either way, the Scott Frost lost/stolen championship rings story is a weird one..
When the local media broke the story yesterday afternoon, then did their follow ups, I was like Huh
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Calling a source "Fake News" does nothing more than lower your own credibility, in my opinion. It just gives you an excuse to put on your blinders and presume certain information sources are always false without regard to the verifiable truth from many other sources or from your own observation.GrandpaaSmucker wrote: Wed Aug 01, 2018 1:18 pm Some Fake News sources were reporting at one time that the thief had posted a pair of Frost's stolen Oregon Duck green Michael Jordans on Craigslist in Lincoln. That story was eventually changed when someone checked the photo of the shoes on Craigslist and found out it was taken off the net and the shoes were not even Frosts. It turned out some fool was spoofing Husker fans!
Too many news sources were running around fueling that Craigslist story. News sources that are supposed to be professionals. All any idiot had to do was check out the source of that pic with a quick internet search or a little bit of investigation. They were lazy and weak and they were pretending to be reporters. No two bit correction issued later can undue that lack of professionalism. That is why they are fake news all day long.GetUrban wrote: Fri Aug 03, 2018 1:30 pm In this case the story really was untrue, but why pre-qualify it by calling it "fake news"? Credible sources issue corrections when warranted.
There is a likely a threshold at which a news source could be called “fake news” for reporting things that can easily be proven to be untrue. A low percentage of their non-editorial reporting being false probably means they should not be called “fake news.” Much better just to say they’re wrong on a particular story than to automatically tag the whole organization as “fake news” unless they have crossed that threshold. It’s still a stupid, over-used politically-motivated tactic.GrandpaaSmucker wrote: Fri Aug 03, 2018 8:29 pmToo many news sources were running around fueling that Craigslist story. News sources that are supposed to be professionals. All any idiot had to do was check out the source of that pic with a quick internet search or a little bit of investigation. They were lazy and weak and they were pretending to be reporters. No two bit correction issued later can undue that lack of professionalism. That is why they are fake news all day long.GetUrban wrote: Fri Aug 03, 2018 1:30 pm In this case the story really was untrue, but why pre-qualify it by calling it "fake news"? Credible sources issue corrections when warranted.
Not specific to this case, but how many instances of.... poor research/biased/sloppy/misrepresented information in stories... should it take for a consumer of the media to dismiss that source as uncredible, or "fake news"?GetUrban wrote: Sat Aug 04, 2018 10:43 amThere is a likely a threshold at which a news source could be called “fake news” for reporting things that can easily be proven to be untrue. A low percentage of their non-editorial reporting being false probably means they should not be called “fake news.” Much better just to say they’re wrong on a particular story than to automatically tag the whole organization as “fake news” unless they have crossed that threshold. It’s still a stupid, over-used politically-motivated tactic.GrandpaaSmucker wrote: Fri Aug 03, 2018 8:29 pmToo many news sources were running around fueling that Craigslist story. News sources that are supposed to be professionals. All any idiot had to do was check out the source of that pic with a quick internet search or a little bit of investigation. They were lazy and weak and they were pretending to be reporters. No two bit correction issued later can undue that lack of professionalism. That is why they are fake news all day long.GetUrban wrote: Fri Aug 03, 2018 1:30 pm In this case the story really was untrue, but why pre-qualify it by calling it "fake news"? Credible sources issue corrections when warranted.
Even a blind pig finds an acorn now and again. My default stance is to ignore enything that comes out of their mouths, and pay attention to the video, the radar, or other visuals.GetUrban wrote: Fri Aug 03, 2018 1:30 pmCalling a source "Fake News" does nothing more than lower your own credibility, in my opinion. It just gives you an excuse to put on your blinders and presume certain information sources are always false without regard to the verifiable truth from many other sources or from your own observation.GrandpaaSmucker wrote: Wed Aug 01, 2018 1:18 pm Some Fake News sources were reporting at one time that the thief had posted a pair of Frost's stolen Oregon Duck green Michael Jordans on Craigslist in Lincoln. That story was eventually changed when someone checked the photo of the shoes on Craigslist and found out it was taken off the net and the shoes were not even Frosts. It turned out some fool was spoofing Husker fans!
Even if you could determine the number of instances it should take, it’s still best to avoid characterizing news or sources as “fake news” and instead just state the evidence and proof that makes the news false. That’s the point I originally intended to make.bbinks wrote: Sat Aug 04, 2018 1:55 pmNot specific to this case, but how many instances of.... poor research/biased/sloppy/misrepresented information in stories... should it take for a consumer of the media to dismiss that source as uncredible, or "fake news"?GetUrban wrote: Sat Aug 04, 2018 10:43 amThere is a likely a threshold at which a news source could be called “fake news” for reporting things that can easily be proven to be untrue. A low percentage of their non-editorial reporting being false probably means they should not be called “fake news.” Much better just to say they’re wrong on a particular story than to automatically tag the whole organization as “fake news” unless they have crossed that threshold. It’s still a stupid, over-used politically-motivated tactic.GrandpaaSmucker wrote: Fri Aug 03, 2018 8:29 pmToo many news sources were running around fueling that Craigslist story. News sources that are supposed to be professionals. All any idiot had to do was check out the source of that pic with a quick internet search or a little bit of investigation. They were lazy and weak and they were pretending to be reporters. No two bit correction issued later can undue that lack of professionalism. That is why they are fake news all day long.GetUrban wrote: Fri Aug 03, 2018 1:30 pm In this case the story really was untrue, but why pre-qualify it by calling it "fake news"? Credible sources issue corrections when warranted.
And good for both of them. 12+ hour shift is for the birds.jessep28 wrote: Tue Aug 21, 2018 11:40 am At KETV, Melissa Fry will be going to mornings only with Alexandra Stone taking over the 5PM co-anchor spot.
The by product of family multiplication.. At least, seemingly, KETV is being flexible so as to not lose additional on air talent...damonhynes wrote: Tue Aug 21, 2018 12:58 pmAnd good for both of them. 12+ hour shift is for the birds.jessep28 wrote: Tue Aug 21, 2018 11:40 am At KETV, Melissa Fry will be going to mornings only with Alexandra Stone taking over the 5PM co-anchor spot.