It’s that time of year again- 2017 Metro population estimates coming officially on 3/22/18

[Garrett]

The only thing I hate with the numbers is that when you look at the 2010 actual population census in relation to the estimate base, Omaha's base was almost 40,000 than the actual population. I scrolled through and didn't see another city with that large of a disparity. Hopefully that doesn't happen again with the official 2020 census.

I completely agree. Something seemed very amiss with the 2010 actual Omaha city number vs the estimate. I too am hoping they've gotten that corrected and last decade was just a blip on the radar.. At least they got the MSA/CSA numbers pretty much right on queue in 2010...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

If I were to bet I would say they didn’t take the annexations into account. If I recall, in 2009 the population was around 440,000 which makes the revision very logical because I remember being stunned at the original 2010 count.

You know, I think you're right about that. I'd have to look it up, but I think Elkhorn was annexed around 2009.. and the official Census number probably didn't take that, or several other late decade annexations into account...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

Well the annexation started 2005 and the court case was over in 2007. I could imagine a lot of the late decade annexations being missed as you mention though.

[BRoss]

I couldn't get the table stuff to work, so I created some screenshots of the tables.

Here are the Nebraska counties:

Douglas


Sarpy


Cass


Saunders


Washingtown


The full spreadsheet can be found here.

I'll get to the Iowa numbers here in a bit.

[Omaha Cowboy]

I couldn't get the table stuff to work, so I created some screenshots of the tables.

Here are the Nebraska counties:

Douglas


Sarpy


Cass


Saunders


Washingtown


The full spreadsheet can be found here.

I'll get to the Iowa numbers here in a bit.

Fantastic work Paperstacks. A big time Cowboy BRAVO to you ...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

[Coyote]

Nicely done.

[Erik]

Thank you!

[BRoss]

Sorry it's taken a while - I've been really busy lately.

Anyways here are the numbers for the Iowa side of the metro:

Pottawattamie


Harrison


Mills


The full spreadsheet can be found here.

[Omaha Cowboy]

Excellent! Thanks again Paperstacks for taking the time to put all this detail together..

It’s a perfect fit and a must read for us population number/statistics junkies ...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

[guy4omaha]

Excellent! Thanks again Paperstacks for taking the time to put all this detail together..

It’s a perfect fit and a must read for us population number/statistics junkies ...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

How Sweet It Is . . .

[Coyote]

Nice, Thanks again..

[Bob from Omaha]

So did anyone total up a combined omaha/Lincoln csa?

[Omaha Cowboy]

I keep looking at these latest US Census estimate numbers..

Putting it into context, the Combined Omaha-Lincoln CSA has a population of 1,323,143.. that would rank as the 43rd largest CSA- just behind the Birmingham AL, Memphis and Oklahoma City CSA’s (The Omaha CSA alone is currently 970,023 and ranked 56th)..

I think Omaha-Lincoln functions much more within this peer population realm.. Even though it’s not “officially” recognized by the US Census..yet.. I’m guessing those commuter 15% threshold numbers have got to be pretty close today, if not there already.. It’s going to be very interesting if the CSA adjustment comes this year. I predict it’s right around the corner...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

Yes, we have Bob...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

[Omaha Cowboy]

Well, Washington DC has redefined Metropolitan and Combined statistical areas and still- Omaha and Lincoln remain separate CSA’s. I really thought the commute % between the 2 core counties (Douglas and Lancaster) had hit the 15% threshold..

Oh well, eventually it will happen..perhaps the next time they look redefine the areas.

Here is a link to the complete 9/14/2018 report:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/u ... -18-04.pdf

Ciao..LiO...Peace

[Omaha Cowboy]

Also, the Omaha MSA and CSA components didn’t change.. However Des Moines, for example, had 2 additional micrpolitan areas added to their CSA so they grew by 55,000 people overnight..

Honestly, it almost seems intentional that Washington is keeping Omaha and Lincoln seperate. I’d bet, that 15% threshold has already been met..

Oh well...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

[Garrett]

Also, the Omaha MSA and CSA components didn’t change.. However Des Moines, for example, had 2 additional micrpolitan areas added to their CSA so they grew by 55,000 people overnight..

Honestly, it almost seems intentional that Washington is keeping Omaha and Lincoln seperate. I’d bet, that 15% threshold has already been met..

Oh well...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

I sincerely doubt there’s a conspiracy. I also doubt that the 10% threshold has even been crossed. In my time in Omaha I never knew of anyone who commuted between the two.

[Omaha Cowboy]

Also, the Omaha MSA and CSA components didn’t change.. However Des Moines, for example, had 2 additional micrpolitan areas added to their CSA so they grew by 55,000 people overnight..

Honestly, it almost seems intentional that Washington is keeping Omaha and Lincoln seperate. I’d bet, that 15% threshold has already been met..

Oh well...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

I sincerely doubt there’s a conspiracy. I also doubt that the 10% threshold has even been crossed. In my time in Omaha I never knew of anyone who commuted between the two.

The consipiracy part I was saying tongue in cheek..

But the commute part I disagree completely with you. I work with people who commute to Omaha from Lincoln daily for work. My sister works in an OPS elementary school in north Omaha and one of their teachers commutes to Omaha from Lincoln 5 days a week. The examples go on and on. The commute % was 7% in 2007. I would day that number today has easily passed 10% and has got to be just a hair away from 15%..

The next time Washington will recalibrate the MSA and CSA designation components will be 2023.. And unless a “Great Wall” is built prohibiting commuters to travel between Douglas and Lancaster counties.. I predict the combined CSA will occur by then. If not, I wont be joking about a conspiracy next time around...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

[Ryan j]

I would have to disagree, how many people do you personally know in Omaha, hundreds?, if you have lived here your whole life it may be many more than that. How many people do you know that commute? I know hundreds of Omahans and I only personally know of a couple that commute one way or the other.

One teacher at Omaha North would represent... what.... 1% of their staff? (Of course I would like it to combine), but I still think we are many years away.

[Omaha Cowboy]

Obviously it’s hard to quantify, but I know of at least a half a dozen people who commute daily from Lincoln to Omaha for work.. and it was one teacher at the north Omaha elementary school she works at, not Omaha North high school..

Anywho-

The commuter % between Omaha and Lincoln was 7% in 2007. I sense there is even more connectivity between the 2 metros over the past 11 years. I believe the number is likely just a hair under 15% today..

Just think, if I know a half a dozen people (and I’m lowballing it).. I’m just one person. At the school my sister worked at last year in South Omaha there was also a teacher who commuted to Omaha from Lincoln 5 days a week.. You can doubt it all you want, but I suspect the number commute is much higher than you’re giving it credit for..

To each their own...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

[Ryan j]

Once again, let's say you only know 100 people in Omaha, think coworkers, former coworkers, wife's coworkers, friends, family, church, kids friends, neighbors, etc,etc, . If you know 6 people that commute between Omaha and Lincoln then only 6% of the people you know commute. Let's say you know 200 people in Omaha, then that means only 3% of the people you know commute between Lincoln and Omaha. That's my only observation. And that's why I say we are years away from combining.

[Omaha Cowboy]

Everyone has their opinions. We’ll just agree to disagree on this one..

I firmly believe when the OMB looks into redefining the MSA and CSA components in 2023, Omaha and Lincoln will be one CSA.. If not, something else may be at play here..

Time will tell...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

[nativeomahan]

I’ve known a handful of people (friends, coworkers, acquaintances) that commute from Lincoln to Omaha, or from Omaha to Lincoln, or from Lincoln to Papillion, or from Otoe County to Papillion. Even from Missouri Valley and Onawa, Iowa to Omaha. Over several years some of them just ended up moving to the county where their job was located, or retiring, or changing jobs so they didn’t have the commute. The numbers are small enough that I found it to be memorable to hear about these commutes. Right now I know one friend that commutes to Omaha from Lincoln. Two additional friends did until this summer, when they moved to Omaha. I know two friends who commute to Lincoln from Omaha. Both only make the drive 3 days a week. More and more people telecommute, at least part of the time. That is an increasing trend.

[nativeomahan]

One additional observation: I had not realized that the Grand Island Metro area comprises three counties. Those counties do not include Hastings or Kearney, despite those towns being in counties adjoining Hall County. Perhaps a parallel can be drawn with the Lincoln and Omaha metros existing side by side.

[Garrett]

Everyone has their opinions. We’ll just agree to disagree on this one..

I firmly believe when the OMB looks into redefining the MSA and CSA components in 2023, Omaha and Lincoln will be one CSA.. If not, something else may be at play here..

Time will tell...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

OK, so according to 2013 data from the ACS, there were 2,094 people that commuted from Douglas Country to Lancaster County, and 3,223 people that commuted from Lancaster County to Douglas County, for 5,317 people total. In 2013, there were 291,024 people in the labor force in Douglas County, and 166,874 people in the labor force in Lancaster County, for a grand total of 457,898. That brings use to a cross commuting pattern of 1.16%. For reference, according to the same data sets, 44,998 people from Sarpy County, or about 48% of the 2013 estimated labor force, commuted into Douglas County. Basically, a CSA isn't happening any time soon.

[ita]

Everyone has their opinions. We’ll just agree to disagree on this one..

I firmly believe when the OMB looks into redefining the MSA and CSA components in 2023, Omaha and Lincoln will be one CSA.. If not, something else may be at play here..

Time will tell...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

OK, so according to 2013 data from the ACS, there were 2,094 people that commuted from Douglas Country to Lancaster County, and 3,223 people that commuted from Lancaster County to Douglas County, for 5,317 people total. In 2013, there were 291,024 people in the labor force in Douglas County, and 166,874 people in the labor force in Lancaster County, for a grand total of 457,898. That brings use to a cross commuting pattern of 1.16%. For reference, according to the same data sets, 44,998 people from Sarpy County, or about 48% of the 2013 estimated labor force, commuted into Douglas County. Basically, a CSA isn't happening any time soon.

I would have to agree with this assessment and the general conclusion that a CSA between Omaha and Lincoln is unlikely for a while. Using these number we would need around 68,000 people interchanging between the metros. I know several in my office and other affiliations who do make the commute, but even in my small circle of associates, I am looking at less than 5% commuting between the metros.

My question for anyone who knows, for the CSA to occur, is the threshold between CSA's or between particular counties? Sorry for my ignorance.

[Garrett]

Everyone has their opinions. We’ll just agree to disagree on this one..

I firmly believe when the OMB looks into redefining the MSA and CSA components in 2023, Omaha and Lincoln will be one CSA.. If not, something else may be at play here..

Time will tell...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

OK, so according to 2013 data from the ACS, there were 2,094 people that commuted from Douglas Country to Lancaster County, and 3,223 people that commuted from Lancaster County to Douglas County, for 5,317 people total. In 2013, there were 291,024 people in the labor force in Douglas County, and 166,874 people in the labor force in Lancaster County, for a grand total of 457,898. That brings use to a cross commuting pattern of 1.16%. For reference, according to the same data sets, 44,998 people from Sarpy County, or about 48% of the 2013 estimated labor force, commuted into Douglas County. Basically, a CSA isn't happening any time soon.

I would have to agree with this assessment and the general conclusion that a CSA between Omaha and Lincoln is unlikely for a while. Using these number we would need around 68,000 people interchanging between the metros. I know several in my office and other affiliations who do make the commute, but even in my small circle of associates, I am looking at less than 5% commuting between the metros.

My question for anyone who knows, for the CSA to occur, is the threshold between CSA's or between particular counties? Sorry for my ignorance.

I think the commuting numbers needs to be 15% between the principal counties but I'm not certain. For Omaha, I believe that would be Douglas and Pottawattamie (Council Bluffs).

[Omaha Cowboy]

Everyone has their opinions. We’ll just agree to disagree on this one..

I firmly believe when the OMB looks into redefining the MSA and CSA components in 2023, Omaha and Lincoln will be one CSA.. If not, something else may be at play here..

Time will tell...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

OK, so according to 2013 data from the ACS, there were 2,094 people that commuted from Douglas Country to Lancaster County, and 3,223 people that commuted from Lancaster County to Douglas County, for 5,317 people total. In 2013, there were 291,024 people in the labor force in Douglas County, and 166,874 people in the labor force in Lancaster County, for a grand total of 457,898. That brings use to a cross commuting pattern of 1.16%. For reference, according to the same data sets, 44,998 people from Sarpy County, or about 48% of the 2013 estimated labor force, commuted into Douglas County. Basically, a CSA isn't happening any time soon.

I would have to agree with this assessment and the general conclusion that a CSA between Omaha and Lincoln is unlikely for a while. Using these number we would need around 68,000 people interchanging between the metros. I know several in my office and other affiliations who do make the commute, but even in my small circle of associates, I am looking at less than 5% commuting between the metros.

My question for anyone who knows, for the CSA to occur, is the threshold between CSA's or between particular counties? Sorry for my ignorance.

I think the commuting numbers needs to be 15% between the principal counties but I'm not certain. For Omaha, I believe that would be Douglas and Pottawattamie (Council Bluffs).

Yes. It’s 15% commuting between the principal counties of the seperate MSA’s- in this case, Douglas and Lancaster counties..

There must be a missing piece with the ACS data from 2013. Maybe not. Back in 2007, when Nebraska sent a contingent to Washington DC, including members of the Omaha and Lincoln Chambers of Commerece and our Grow Omaha radio show friends Jeff Beals and Trenton Magid, it was communicated to them by OMB personnel the commuting percentage between the 2 counties was 7%.. 11 years later, you’d be lead to believe that number is closer to 15% today.. Perhaps this wasn’t communicated correctly at that time. Who knows..

I’ll just live in the reality of today and see what happens in 2023.. By that time, the current Omaha CSA should be well past the 1 million mark and the MSA alone will probably be right on that 1 million mark as well...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

[ita]

Everyone has their opinions. We’ll just agree to disagree on this one..

I firmly believe when the OMB looks into redefining the MSA and CSA components in 2023, Omaha and Lincoln will be one CSA.. If not, something else may be at play here..

Time will tell...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

OK, so according to 2013 data from the ACS, there were 2,094 people that commuted from Douglas Country to Lancaster County, and 3,223 people that commuted from Lancaster County to Douglas County, for 5,317 people total. In 2013, there were 291,024 people in the labor force in Douglas County, and 166,874 people in the labor force in Lancaster County, for a grand total of 457,898. That brings use to a cross commuting pattern of 1.16%. For reference, according to the same data sets, 44,998 people from Sarpy County, or about 48% of the 2013 estimated labor force, commuted into Douglas County. Basically, a CSA isn't happening any time soon.

I would have to agree with this assessment and the general conclusion that a CSA between Omaha and Lincoln is unlikely for a while. Using these number we would need around 68,000 people interchanging between the metros. I know several in my office and other affiliations who do make the commute, but even in my small circle of associates, I am looking at less than 5% commuting between the metros.

My question for anyone who knows, for the CSA to occur, is the threshold between CSA's or between particular counties? Sorry for my ignorance.

I think the commuting numbers needs to be 15% between the principal counties but I'm not certain. For Omaha, I believe that would be Douglas and Pottawattamie (Council Bluffs).

Yes. It’s 15% commuting between the principal counties of the seperate MSA’s- in this case, Douglas and Lancaster counties..

There must be a missing piece with the ACS data from 2013. Maybe not. Back in 2007, when Nebraska sent a contingent to Washington DC, including members of the Omaha and Lincoln Chambers of Commerece and our Grow Omaha radio show friends Jeff Beals and Trenton Magid, it was communicated to them by OMB personnel the commuting percentage between the 2 counties was 7%.. 11 years later, you’d be lead to believe that number is closer to 15% today.. Perhaps this wasn’t communicated correctly at that time. Who knows..

I’ll just live in the reality of today and see what happens in 2023.. By that time, the current Omaha CSA should be well past the 1 million mark and the MSA alone will probably be right on that 1 million mark as well...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

Cowboy, thanks for confirming.

And yes, it will be neat once the CSA and MSA hit that mark, even without the combining of Omaha's and Lincoln's CSA's. A fun hypothetical to think about it what does our CSA and MSA look like once it hits one million? Where do those several tens of thousands come from and live? Where do they work?

[Omaha Cowboy]

Everyone has their opinions. We’ll just agree to disagree on this one..

I firmly believe when the OMB looks into redefining the MSA and CSA components in 2023, Omaha and Lincoln will be one CSA.. If not, something else may be at play here..

Time will tell...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

OK, so according to 2013 data from the ACS, there were 2,094 people that commuted from Douglas Country to Lancaster County, and 3,223 people that commuted from Lancaster County to Douglas County, for 5,317 people total. In 2013, there were 291,024 people in the labor force in Douglas County, and 166,874 people in the labor force in Lancaster County, for a grand total of 457,898. That brings use to a cross commuting pattern of 1.16%. For reference, according to the same data sets, 44,998 people from Sarpy County, or about 48% of the 2013 estimated labor force, commuted into Douglas County. Basically, a CSA isn't happening any time soon.

I would have to agree with this assessment and the general conclusion that a CSA between Omaha and Lincoln is unlikely for a while. Using these number we would need around 68,000 people interchanging between the metros. I know several in my office and other affiliations who do make the commute, but even in my small circle of associates, I am looking at less than 5% commuting between the metros.

My question for anyone who knows, for the CSA to occur, is the threshold between CSA's or between particular counties? Sorry for my ignorance.

I think the commuting numbers needs to be 15% between the principal counties but I'm not certain. For Omaha, I believe that would be Douglas and Pottawattamie (Council Bluffs).

Yes. It’s 15% commuting between the principal counties of the seperate MSA’s- in this case, Douglas and Lancaster counties..

There must be a missing piece with the ACS data from 2013. Maybe not. Back in 2007, when Nebraska sent a contingent to Washington DC, including members of the Omaha and Lincoln Chambers of Commerece and our Grow Omaha radio show friends Jeff Beals and Trenton Magid, it was communicated to them by OMB personnel the commuting percentage between the 2 counties was 7%.. 11 years later, you’d be lead to believe that number is closer to 15% today.. Perhaps this wasn’t communicated correctly at that time. Who knows..

I’ll just live in the reality of today and see what happens in 2023.. By that time, the current Omaha CSA should be well past the 1 million mark and the MSA alone will probably be right on that 1 million mark as well...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

Cowboy, thanks for confirming.

And yes, it will be neat once the CSA and MSA hit that mark, even without the combining of Omaha's and Lincoln's CSA's. A fun hypothetical to think about it what does our CSA and MSA look like once it hits one million? Where do those several tens of thousands come from and live? Where do they work?

You’re welcome.. and you know, according to the latest 2017 estimates, the Omaha CSA currently at 970,000 plus and the MSA at 934,000, we’re pretty nearly already there.. And I can tell the growth difference even within the past 10 years with the increasing traffic, and the metro continuing its sprawl west. The cool thing is, a goodly amount of the growth is also urban infill- AK Village, The Blackstone District, The Capitol District and North Downtown.. not to mention Dundee and Benson.. Along with the 10th to 13th streets Renaissance south from downtown to the old Rosenblatt Stadium area etc..

Overall, I like the mix of good, sustainable growth from the core all the way out to the western suburbs..

Omaha just needs to focus on retaining the corporate presence it currently has, along with attracting new companies to either open an office or move to the Big O entirely.. Create new and more job opportunities and keep the young talent here.. While enticing more young talent to move here...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

[ita]

Based on the current growth of the MSA/CSA, we'll be at 1 million for both by 2025. Isn't that the general consensus? That is not very long from now. I moved here in 2012, and even since than there has been a miraculous change in the landscape, particularly downtown/midtown, and there does seem to just be more people in the metro (based on traffic and generally busy-ness of commercial districts). I do agree that the additional 30-70,000 people will be located in these developments, throughout the metro. We have yet to see how large developments like the Riverfront, both Omaha and Council Bluffs, West Farm, and North Downtown will affect the region. I believe we are underestimating the draw these developments will create. Hopefully, this includes, like you said the retaining and attracting of job-creating businesses. My last note, is I hope there is some movement either in Bellevue or Gretna area concerning development of a mega-site for an industrial complex, or whatever they call it, that can accommodate for something like a Toyota manufacturing plant or even several manufacturing plants. In any case, it will be an exciting time as we get closer to 2025.

[iamjacobm]

Vast majority of the population growth will be NW and SW suburbs. I think its trending like the NW side of town is having its time to shine. Tons of easy to develop land out there, Bennington will be the next Elkhorn. In a decade I imagine nearly all notable vacant land north of Maple south of Bennington Road and east of 204th will be developed.

Southern suburbs have a lot of room to grow as well Gretna and Papillion specifically are planning well for future growth IMO. Sarpy has the sewer issue on the south side of the county to figure out before too long. I remember they got some state funding, but I don't remember the timeline. That will have an impact on southern growth.

Outside of that is another community going to embrace growth or try and stay rural for as long as possible. Yutan, Mead, Waterloo, Springfield, Valley. All are on deck to see growth they aren't used to seeing. Which town is planning for that growth now? Which one will embrace new people? That will have an effect on future regional population trends as well.

[iamjacobm]

Also for a big job creator we should be pursuing is an Amazon Fulfillment Center. There is one in Lenexa, KS that covers a lot of Omaha shipments right now, but similar sized markets like Tulsa and OKC are both getting 600K+ SF facilities providing over 1500 jobs.

Auto factories are big time, but don't come around every year and have a lot of competition nationwide. Fulfillment centers are by their nature regional and Omaha's regional population compares favorably with markets where facilities are currently going up.

[Omaha Cowboy]

Based on the current growth of the MSA/CSA, we'll be at 1 million for both by 2025. Isn't that the general consensus?

Well, the Omaha CSA will hit the 1,000,000 number likely by the 2020 Census. The MSA should hit it either 2023 (faster growth track), 2024, or 2025 (slower growth track). I hope for 2023, but I think the MSA will hit 1,000,000 by 2024...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

[Omaha Cowboy]

It would be fantastic if Omaha could attract an Amazon Fulfillment Center ...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

[Louie]

It would be fantastic if Omaha could attract an Amazon Fulfillment Center ...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

Even with all the negative press about the working conditions inside them??

[ita]

Based on the current growth of the MSA/CSA, we'll be at 1 million for both by 2025. Isn't that the general consensus?

Well, the Omaha CSA will hit the 1,000,000 number likely by the 2020 Census. The MSA should hit it either 2023 (faster growth track), 2024, or 2025 (slower growth track). I hope for 2023, but I think the MSA will hit 1,000,000 by 2024...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

That would be great on both counts.

[ita]

Also for a big job creator we should be pursuing is an Amazon Fulfillment Center. There is one in Lenexa, KS that covers a lot of Omaha shipments right now, but similar sized markets like Tulsa and OKC are both getting 600K+ SF facilities providing over 1500 jobs.

Auto factories are big time, but don't come around every year and have a lot of competition nationwide. Fulfillment centers are by their nature regional and Omaha's regional population compares favorably with markets where facilities are currently going up.

I know I mentioned an auto manufacturing plant or other similar high volume, 1,000+ type job creators, but I think I would like to see more collaboration between Lincoln and Omaha in terms of working together to foster start up, home grown companies while catering to bringing similar companies (ie. read tech companies) from the coast or other regions to Omaha. I follow Silicon Prairie New regularly and there seems to be some growing collaboration between the two, but there are obvious shortcomings in their current relationship. Although having two great cities for start ups and tech firms competing with each other results in each city improving aspects of each to cater to businesses needs, I think Omaha and Lincoln need to show the business community that they are more connected than most realize. The other thing I find interesting is with the greater influx of construction downtown for residential properties, ie. apartments, row houses (which I think is great if we are trying to bring families downtown), and condos, I am more interested in seeing a new Class A building (or two) go up. I know Keiwit and MoO are planning to leave their Midtown locations which will free up potential Class A commercial space, but I would like to see more. Additionally, with the growing interest in North Downtown, I hope they incorporate some redevelopment for tech-focus commercial space, which I personally believe would fit in well with the arts and makers district they are trying to develop.

[Omaha Cowboy]

It would be fantastic if Omaha could attract an Amazon Fulfillment Center ...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

Even with all the negative press about the working conditions inside them??

I like the opportunity of adding an additional 1500 jobs to the metro.. I can’t imagine the place is run like a sweatshop. If Oklahoma City and Tulsa, Oklahoma are acquiring one each, I feel Omaha would be a place that should be in the mix as well.. But that’s just one example. It’s obvious that adding to the job opportunities here in the metro is a huge key component in stimulating continuous positive growth...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

[daveoma]

It would be fantastic if Omaha could attract an Amazon Fulfillment Center ...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

Even with all the negative press about the working conditions inside them??

Although I suspect Amazon will adapt and begin to treat their workers better, I definitely think there are disadvantages with having approximately 1,000 jobs that pay so poorly, workers must depend on government assistance to survive. There have been many reports about Amazon's mistreatment of workers which is quasi abusive--this has been reported amongst low-level employees and in mid-level management as well.

There are a couple of things that government can do to improve the situation. The city/state can pass a law to force grotesquely wealthy and powerful companies like Amazon and Walmart to pay a livable wage and affordable health insurance, but if they don't then they will be taxed. This prevents drain on social services for those who are actually unemployed or disabled. Governments can also change so called "right to work" laws which allow an employer to fire you without cause. This would allow workers to organize to demand better working conditions.

[buildomaha]

It would be fantastic if Omaha could attract an Amazon Fulfillment Center ...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

Even with all the negative press about the working conditions inside them??

Large companies like that should be required to pay their workers more. They’re essentially being subsidized by the government when their employees are forced to rely on other taxpayers to survive.
Although I suspect Amazon will adapt and begin to treat their workers better, I definitely think there are disadvantages with having approximately 1,000 jobs that pay so poorly, workers must depend on government assistance to survive. There have been many reports about Amazon's mistreatment of workers which is quasi abusive--this has been reported amongst low-level employees and in mid-level management as well.

There are a couple of things that government can do to improve the situation. The city/state can pass a law to force grotesquely wealthy and powerful companies like Amazon and Walmart to pay a livable wage and affordable health insurance, but if they don't then they will be taxed. This prevents drain on social services for those who are actually unemployed or disabled. Governments can also change so called "right to work" laws which allow an employer to fire you without cause. This would allow workers to organize to demand better working conditions.

[Coyote]

Vast majority of the population growth will be NW and SW suburbs.

Sarpy has the sewer issue on the south side of the county to figure out before too long. I remember they got some state funding, but I don't remember the timeline. That will have an impact on southern growth.

Part of Sarpy County has sat untouched from development. A new sewer line will change that

The whole undertaking is estimated to cost $220 million and take up to 50 years to complete.