New Kiewit HQ

obvious2677 · Post by **obvious2677** » Tue Aug 28, 2018 2:33 pm

MTO wrote: Tue Aug 28, 2018 12:51 pm
RockHarbor wrote: Wed May 02, 2018 5:52 pm Whatever is going on, whatever is being built, the city should "Kiss Kiewit" for this.
And ghost HDR

lol good joke. Kiewit is building HDR's HQ. HDR is designing Kiewit's. Both companies work on nearly every major project in the city.

Garrett · Post by **Garrett** » Tue Aug 28, 2018 8:35 pm

obvious2677 wrote: Tue Aug 28, 2018 2:33 pm
MTO wrote: Tue Aug 28, 2018 12:51 pm
RockHarbor wrote: Wed May 02, 2018 5:52 pm Whatever is going on, whatever is being built, the city should "Kiss Kiewit" for this.
And ghost HDR
lol good joke. Kiewit is building HDR's HQ. HDR is designing Kiewit's. Both companies work on nearly every major project in the city.

It’s a millennial joke. You may not be hip enough to get it.

obvious2677 · Post by **obvious2677** » Wed Aug 29, 2018 10:29 am

Garrett wrote: Tue Aug 28, 2018 8:35 pm
obvious2677 wrote: Tue Aug 28, 2018 2:33 pm
MTO wrote: Tue Aug 28, 2018 12:51 pm
RockHarbor wrote: Wed May 02, 2018 5:52 pm Whatever is going on, whatever is being built, the city should "Kiss Kiewit" for this.
And ghost HDR
lol good joke. Kiewit is building HDR's HQ. HDR is designing Kiewit's. Both companies work on nearly every major project in the city.
It’s a millennial joke. You may not be hip enough to get it.

I'm a millennial.

iamjacobm · Post by **iamjacobm** » Wed Sep 05, 2018 4:12 pm

TitosBuritoBarn · Post by **TitosBuritoBarn** » Wed Sep 05, 2018 4:40 pm

Hmmm. I’m moderately impressed. But only moderately.

MadMartin8 · Post by **MadMartin8** » Wed Sep 05, 2018 4:48 pm

iamjacobm wrote: Wed Sep 05, 2018 4:12 pm

Hm. How many square feet is this building again? Is the red brick building in the background a second building for them?

iamjacobm · Post by **iamjacobm** » Wed Sep 05, 2018 4:51 pm

165K-185K. That appears to be the Wareham building in the background, not sure why it is colored. Maybe as a nod to a design influence?

MadMartin8 · Post by **MadMartin8** » Wed Sep 05, 2018 4:54 pm

iamjacobm wrote: Wed Sep 05, 2018 4:51 pm 165K-185K. That appears to be the Wareham building in the background, not sure why it is colored. Maybe as a nod to a design influence?

It just seems weird that the building was the only other thing colored in besides the Kiewit Training Center and parking garage.

Also, follow up question for anyone, how does the size of this building compare to their old one?

iamjacobm · Post by **iamjacobm** » Wed Sep 05, 2018 4:55 pm

MadMartin8 wrote: Wed Sep 05, 2018 4:54 pm
iamjacobm wrote: Wed Sep 05, 2018 4:51 pm 165K-185K. That appears to be the Wareham building in the background, not sure why it is colored. Maybe as a nod to a design influence?
It just seems weird that the building was the only other thing colored in besides the Kiewit Training Center and parking garage.

Also, follow up question for anyone, how does the size of this building compare to their old one?

Listing says their current home is ~176K SF with Kiewit occupying ~140K SF of it.

MadMartin8 · Post by **MadMartin8** » Wed Sep 05, 2018 5:00 pm

iamjacobm wrote: Wed Sep 05, 2018 4:55 pm
MadMartin8 wrote: Wed Sep 05, 2018 4:54 pm
iamjacobm wrote: Wed Sep 05, 2018 4:51 pm 165K-185K. That appears to be the Wareham building in the background, not sure why it is colored. Maybe as a nod to a design influence?
It just seems weird that the building was the only other thing colored in besides the Kiewit Training Center and parking garage.

Also, follow up question for anyone, how does the size of this building compare to their old one?
Listing says their current home is ~176K SF with Kiewit occupying ~140K SF of it.

Thanks!

PotatoeEatsFish · Post by **PotatoeEatsFish** » Wed Sep 05, 2018 6:18 pm

I'm getting really sick of these glass box corners; but it'll be a great addition to the area.

Busguy2010 · Post by **Busguy2010** » Wed Sep 05, 2018 8:42 pm

PotatoeEatsFish wrote: Wed Sep 05, 2018 6:18 pm I'm getting really sick of these glass box corners

Me too, they look cheap.

bmt · Post by **bmt** » Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:39 pm

None of the pictures show what is going in on the north side of the Kiewit block...

iamjacobm · Post by **iamjacobm** » Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:52 pm

bmt wrote: Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:39 pm None of the pictures show what is going in on the north side of the Kiewit block...

Their garage will likely take at least twice the footprint of the building, if not more.

Busguy2010 · Post by **Busguy2010** » Wed Sep 05, 2018 11:03 pm

iamjacobm wrote: Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:52 pm
bmt wrote: Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:39 pm None of the pictures show what is going in on the north side of the Kiewit block...
Their garage will likely take at least twice the footprint of the building, if not more.

I bet ya they leave the correct amount of space for a similar sized building on the north side, with the garage taking up the space between. Anything less would be a let down, anything more would be a surprise.

Pretty disappointing though, it appears 15th street will basically become an access road for the parking garage.

TitosBuritoBarn · Post by **TitosBuritoBarn** » Thu Sep 06, 2018 8:38 am

iamjacobm wrote: Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:52 pm
bmt wrote: Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:39 pm None of the pictures show what is going in on the north side of the Kiewit block...
Their garage will likely take at least twice the footprint of the building, if not more.

Yeah it’s certainly taking up a lot of good real estate and not being conducive to good urban design. This is the negative aspect of being in a cheap real estate market.

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Thu Sep 06, 2018 12:21 pm

We knew the building wasn’t going to be anything earth shattering..

Like I said when they announced the move months ago, I’m glad Kiewit decided to build within the core in North Downtown.. I’m also looking forward to seeing what additional development will follow; along with increased foot traffic...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

Louie · Post by **Louie** » Sun Sep 09, 2018 3:14 pm

Looks like the two blocks south of Kiewit’s development will also be getting some work done.

tpaine · Post by **tpaine** » Sun Sep 09, 2018 9:16 pm

Happy to see Kiewit moving downtown. Greatly appreciate their commitment to improving downtown Omaha! Wish other companies would follow their example.

SaveOmaha · Post by **SaveOmaha** » Mon Sep 10, 2018 1:16 am

Louie wrote: Sun Sep 09, 2018 3:14 pm Looks like the two blocks south of Kiewit’s development will also be getting some work done.

Are you insinuating that some/all the older buildings between 15th and 16th, California and Cass will be rehabbed? Lots of great buildings on those two blocks!

Louie · Post by **Louie** » Mon Sep 10, 2018 12:08 pm

SaveOmaha wrote: Mon Sep 10, 2018 1:16 am
Louie wrote: Sun Sep 09, 2018 3:14 pm Looks like the two blocks south of Kiewit’s development will also be getting some work done.
Are you insinuating that some/all the older buildings between 15th and 16th, California and Cass will be rehabbed? Lots of great buildings on those two blocks!

I can’t really tell. The pictures aren’t clear enough.

Cermak · Post by **Cermak** » Thu Nov 29, 2018 4:08 pm

Wish they would of gone at least 10 stories but still a great project. Should increase foot traffic in that area. Plus nice views of DT skyline from the local. Congrats Kiewit !

Uffda · Post by **Uffda** » Wed Dec 05, 2018 6:13 am

Kiewit headquarters planned for north downtown won't have retail space in parking garage

Developers of the construction and engineering company’s offices are asking the city to waive a requirement that garages built in certain areas include first-floor retail offerings, like restaurants and shops.

edsas · Post by **edsas** » Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:51 am

Uffda wrote: Wed Dec 05, 2018 6:13 am Kiewit headquarters planned for north downtown won't have retail space in parking garage

Developers of the construction and engineering company’s offices are asking the city to waive a requirement that garages built in certain areas include first-floor retail offerings, like restaurants and shops.

City should say, "Double the height of the HQ and we have a deal."

Taco · Post by **Taco** » Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:14 am

Lame. And the city will let them have it because they let the big companies do whatever they want. You can already see the backtracking by the planning department in the article.

Linkin5 · Post by **Linkin5** » Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:20 am

Uffda wrote: Wed Dec 05, 2018 6:13 am Kiewit headquarters planned for north downtown won't have retail space in parking garage

Developers of the construction and engineering company’s offices are asking the city to waive a requirement that garages built in certain areas include first-floor retail offerings, like restaurants and shops.

The city should absolutely tell them no, this will create an entire dead block.

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:30 am

edsas wrote: Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:51 am
Uffda wrote: Wed Dec 05, 2018 6:13 am Kiewit headquarters planned for north downtown won't have retail space in parking garage

Developers of the construction and engineering company’s offices are asking the city to waive a requirement that garages built in certain areas include first-floor retail offerings, like restaurants and shops.
City should say, "Double the height of the HQ and we have a deal."

Forget double.. Triple!

...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

TitosBuritoBarn · Post by **TitosBuritoBarn** » Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:49 am

Should make them incorporate the garage into the building for a height increase á la Hyatt Place.

Mapguy · Post by **Mapguy** » Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:03 pm

Why dont they put the parking garage in the middle of the block and leave the street frontage open for future development of a small office/retail building?

Cermak · Post by **Cermak** » Fri Dec 07, 2018 7:51 pm

Maybe Kiewit just doesn’t want to get in the retail space business. It’s their choice.

Dundeemaha · Post by **Dundeemaha** » Fri Dec 07, 2018 8:21 pm

Cermak wrote: Fri Dec 07, 2018 7:51 pm Maybe Kiewit just doesn’t want to get in the retail space business. It’s their choice.

The whole point of City codes is to require owners to do things that benefit the whole city regardless of their preference.

So it's only their choice if the city waives the requirements everyone would be held to.

Cermak · Post by **Cermak** » Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:29 pm

I think we will need to let them do what they want, don’t want to risk them leaving DT to AK village or west Dodge. Even if they don’t do retail now they could add it later if the area demands it.

Louie · Post by **Louie** » Sat Dec 08, 2018 10:06 am

Cermak wrote: Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:29 pm I think we will need to let them do what they want, don’t want to risk them leaving DT to AK village or west Dodge. Even if they don’t do retail now they could add it later if the area demands it.

That's pretty difficult to add retail to an existing parking garage. What with the entire structure being concrete....

RockHarbor · Post by **RockHarbor** » Sat Dec 08, 2018 2:39 pm

I do love that sharp & clean design.

Linkin5 · Post by **Linkin5** » Sat Dec 08, 2018 3:50 pm

Cermak wrote: Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:29 pm I think we will need to let them do what they want, don’t want to risk them leaving DT to AK village or west Dodge. Even if they don’t do retail now they could add it later if the area demands it.

They aren't going to just add retail later. It is up to the city to enforce their code now, this is a small price for Kiewit to ultimately make the area more viable. I am honestly confused they are even opposing this.

ita · Post by **ita** » Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:50 pm

Linkin5 wrote: Sat Dec 08, 2018 3:50 pm
Cermak wrote: Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:29 pm I think we will need to let them do what they want, don’t want to risk them leaving DT to AK village or west Dodge. Even if they don’t do retail now they could add it later if the area demands it.
They aren't going to just add retail later. It is up to the city to enforce their code now, this is a small price for Kiewit to ultimately make the area more viable. I am honestly confused they are even opposing this.

https://morningsky.com/omaha/posts/kiew ... lans-other. This article offer some clarification. Although not a quote, the article states that Mr. Noodle said all other buildings in the development will have retail. We basically have to take his word for it as we have not seen any other planned buildings for this district.

PotatoeEatsFish · Post by **PotatoeEatsFish** » Sun Dec 09, 2018 4:26 pm

I love how many blocks Omaha has downtown with just one garage and nothing else.

ItsAllAboutMe · Post by **ItsAllAboutMe** » Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:18 pm

Foundation work has begun

Cermak · Post by **Cermak** » Wed Jan 09, 2019 4:02 pm

With the mild weather hopefully will see some steel rising this spring. I’m curious to see if this project improves foot traffic in the area. I was over there this past Saturday afternoon and it was dead.

Louie · Post by **Louie** » Wed Jan 09, 2019 4:39 pm

Cermak wrote: Wed Jan 09, 2019 4:02 pm With the mild weather hopefully will see some steel rising this spring. I’m curious to see if this project improves foot traffic in the area. I was over there this past Saturday afternoon and it was dead.

There are quite a few empty/not utilized spots there. In time those will fill and I'm sure it will make a huge difference.