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Coyote: I didnt realize that (although your forum name & avatar has always had a rustic, western flair -- that I like). I'll even wear "western" sometimes once in a great while -- if in the mood. How did you like it there?

Cermak: Exactly. It's definitely not for everyone. Even myself: Palmy & lower desert Phoenix & Tuscon & Vegas is more "me" than Santa Fe or Albuquerque. But, I'd rather be in Albuquerque than El Paso -- plus many other places. That sharp Sandia Casino, north of Albuquerque, really captures & celebrates the unique, special beauty of New Mexico with wonderful design and a spectacular backdrop. The designers did a great job on that. There is something about New Mexico that is definitely enchanting -- including to me. Im trying to put my finger on ALL what it is. Of course, a lot of it is the high desert scenery & light, and unique adobe architecture & design. I think it comes down to being mesmorized by a sort of "strange beautiful." Its artsy & colorful & dramatic, rich w/ colorful history, yet not snobby & pretentious. It's maybe not sophisticated enough to justify being too upity & vain a place, nor is its "head held high" as a majestic summer and winter sports playground, like Colorado is. It's not an absolute western "Crowd Pleaser" like Colorado & Arizona are. It's more a low-key, rustic "SWern Wyoming" -- or something. Santa Fe and Taos are kind of the state hotspot "Jackson" and Albuquerque kind of the business "Cheyenne" or "Casper" -- although festive Albuquerque is obviously steps up in size & excitement & color from those WY cities. Thats kinda my take on it. I'd have to think about it more... Some pics:

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I just realized I spelled ALBUQUERQUE wrong on this thread, and on that "pretend postcard" I did a lot of years back. I was just messing around... (Creating pretend postcards is fun & theraputic for me.) I havent looked at it in a long time. Oh my gosh... I used to think there were to two R's in the city name, because it is easy to say "AlbuRquerque." Silly me. Yet, that is a tricky city name. I feel sorry for kindergartners in town.
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The royal title does have an "R" in it. The town in Spain also has an "R" in it. ABQ does not.
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bigredmed1 wrote: Wed Mar 06, 2019 11:02 pm The royal title does have an "R" in it. The town in Spain also has an "R" in it. ABQ does not.
You're correct. There was actually a vote in Albuquerque to change the city spelling to "Alburquerque" because of that historical difference. Thanks for reminding me of that. Although I don't really care about my mistake (as I'm human, and make mistakes), that does make me feel a little better about spelling it wrong. I like it better "Albuquerque" -- as it is. However, funny, with it "Alburquerue", the word "bur" is in there, which makes me think of the dry West, and Native Americans & cowboys, along with the word "spur." So, it matches a city in the West well.

Also, not sure if you know about the tram up to the peaks of the Sandia Mountains, but one does run. https://img2.10bestmedia.com/Images/Pho ... 011058.jpg I've been on it before. There's a very nice restaurant up there I've eaten at. And, there's great views of Albuquerque from up there, especially in evenings in the summer. Those evening thunderstorms can roll in, though, and you have to be careful being up in those mountains.

A great stock photo of Albuquerque. https://c8.alamy.com/comp/D73KEX/skylin ... D73KEX.jpg (That city looks great looking east at it at sunset with the yellow, low rays hitting the downtown buildings and the desert mountains beyond. In fact, I learned that the Sandia Mountains are named after the Native American word "Sandia" which translates to "watermelon." Why did the Native Americans name them that? At sunset, they turn reddish, and the speckles of trees on them look like watermelon seeds.) You can kind of see that here: http://mediad.publicbroadcasting.net/p/ ... que1_0.jpg
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Lived in ABQ from 1985 tot 1988. Nice place. Loved the food. Loved the Palms Trading Company for Investment grade art. They had a great system of bringing up Journeyman level artists in the native american art community. Basically told the masters that they would buy anything their Journeymen or advance apprentice artists made. They set up price plans depending on size and style factors as well as marketability. They would literally buy all of their stuff. I watched them measure pieces and determine pigments and patterns, then just add up the money and pay them.

This resulted in a mass of at the time, unknown artists whose art was then separated into the good stuff, the OK stuff, and the |expletive| they could sell to the dealers on the east coast. They sold the good stuff. I got pots from now master potters for more than a zero less than they are going for today.
(and I got to enjoy them for 30 years.)
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bigredmed1 wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2019 4:43 pm Lived in ABQ from 1985 tot 1988. Nice place. Loved the food. Loved the Palms Trading Company for Investment grade art. They had a great system of bringing up Journeyman level artists in the native american art community. Basically told the masters that they would buy anything their Journeymen or advance apprentice artists made. They set up price plans depending on size and style factors as well as marketability. They would literally buy all of their stuff. I watched them measure pieces and determine pigments and patterns, then just add up the money and pay them.

This resulted in a mass of at the time, unknown artists whose art was then separated into the good stuff, the OK stuff, and the |expletive| they could sell to the dealers on the east coast. They sold the good stuff. I got pots from now master potters for more than a zero less than they are going for today.
(and I got to enjoy them for 30 years.)
Interesting! So, you lived there when it was much smaller, and some of the newer, skyline-defining buildings were not there. And, you were there for the same reason I would ever live there: The art, the SWern culture, ect. It sounds like you were involved in the art-based industry there, and saw a lot, and had a lot of connections, ect. May I ask: Why did you leave it all behind? Did it you miss Omaha? Did the whole "New Mexico SW thing" get old? Tired of turqoise and Navajo rugs? Tired of flat roof adobe style? Did it not ever feel like home? Was it too "different" there? You're the perfect person to ask on this subject.
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RockHarbor wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2019 10:32 pm
bigredmed1 wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2019 4:43 pm Lived in ABQ from 1985 tot 1988. Nice place. Loved the food. Loved the Palms Trading Company for Investment grade art. They had a great system of bringing up Journeyman level artists in the native american art community. Basically told the masters that they would buy anything their Journeymen or advance apprentice artists made. They set up price plans depending on size and style factors as well as marketability. They would literally buy all of their stuff. I watched them measure pieces and determine pigments and patterns, then just add up the money and pay them.

This resulted in a mass of at the time, unknown artists whose art was then separated into the good stuff, the OK stuff, and the |expletive| they could sell to the dealers on the east coast. They sold the good stuff. I got pots from now master potters for more than a zero less than they are going for today.
(and I got to enjoy them for 30 years.)
Interesting! So, you lived there when it was much smaller, and some of the newer, skyline-defining buildings were not there. And, you were there for the same reason I would ever live there: The art, the SWern culture, ect. It sounds like you were involved in the art-based industry there, and saw a lot, and had a lot of connections, ect. May I ask: Why did you leave it all behind? Did it you miss Omaha? Did the whole "New Mexico SW thing" get old? Tired of turqoise and Navajo rugs? Tired of flat roof adobe style? Did it not ever feel like home? Was it too "different" there? You're the perfect person to ask on this subject.
I was in healthcare. I got to see the part of ABQ that the rich and the tourists never do. I felt that it was a place where the sexual assault of children was a spectator sport. I finished my residency and moved on. I did miss Omaha, primarily because Omaha seemed so much more functional. I did like the food and came to miss this most since then. I did enjoy going to the Jemez on my days off. I didn't really get into the tourist art as much as I enjoyed the pottery and the paintings, especially after getting the low down on the pricing of this art on the Wholesale market. I found the Palms Trading Co via a NM native who was in our program. I really dug the ability to just go shopping on a resident salary.

Salaries for general pediatricians were cartoonishly low at the time, and I never thought of ABQ as a "home" because I knew that I couldn't afford to stay. The architecture of the city never was much for me one way or the other. I liked parts and disliked other parts. I met some nice people. I enjoyed the time there except for the 3-5 sexual assault cases we had every day in clinic. I also got tired of the "Its a poor state, what do you expect, we aren't rich like Nebraska" excuse for every vaccine shortage or staff inadequacy we had (even though NM had $2B in reserves from mining roylaties. Santa Fe could build fancy outdoor concert arenas,but the state couldn't afford vaccines for their kids, decent schools, or other basic services.
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Yikes! Im gonna write more later here... Thanks for your reply.
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Ok, have some time here to respond:

First off, thanks for sharing your insights into Albuquerque beyond all the touristy viewpoints. Ive always felt Albuquerque was afflicted with a slight maybe "downtrodden" quality as a city, and maybe this comes down to a consequence due to the "sins of the city", and state priorities in the wrong place, and not respecting the local population enough in general. (????) Maybe they want outsider tourists to marvel at their beautiful, unique state, and fall in love with it, yet at the same time, they are not taking care of their "own" quite enough. I wonder if this has changed since the 80's? I hope it has gotten better. "Yikes" to what you said is right.

As far as the SWern art, rugs, pottery, jewelry go: It is all so exciting & interesting to me. I like SWern style stuff, yet it can get "old" to me, too. I like desert design in general. The architecture, scenery, color, weather, plants, cuisine, and the SWern art is what I enjoy personally about places like Albq, Santa Fe, Las Cruces, Tuscon, Phoenix, ect.
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I think this happened after I left the area, but it seems the unofficial symbol of NM changed from the howling coyote to the flute playing kokopelli.
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Yes, you actually lived there bigredmed1 so you should know. Thanks for your input. I’ve been to New Mexico three different times for a total of 5 weeks but that’s not the same as living there for several years like you did. I do still like the weather and scenery even if the state is a little messed up in it’s priorities. I think Albuquerque could come roaring back and become a fast growing city again in the near future. Sante Fe is probably the nicest part of the state. As it’s insulated with state government jobs, tourism and nearby Los Alamos laboratories. But the state is plagued with high crime, poverty and drugs which gives it a bad reputation. On the other end of the spectrum Nebraska is probably one of the safest states.
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Cermak: Lol You just need to pack up & move there, I think. You just have a "thing" for Albq & Santa Fe, that I think you need to explore, and get out of your system. Only you know that...though. Can't say I blame you; Just the unique names "Albuquerque" and "Santa Fe" and "Las Cruces" can enchant, and be alluring, within themselves. Obviously, I have something for it all, too, to originally start this thread. So, I get it. (The only thing I keep in mind, though, is this: When I left Phoenix once and was heading back to the Midwest, I was so happy & relieved to get back to the green fields & big green trees & thunderheads of the Midwest, once I hit Oklahoma. I longed for them. So, remember: Nebraska has attributes you may really miss, if you ever go & try it out. Retired "snow birds" understand that. They purposefully & intentionally "get the best of both worlds" they go between.)
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Coyote wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2019 11:09 pm I think this happened after I left the area, but it seems the unofficial symbol of NM changed from the howling coyote to the flute playing kokopelli.

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Those kokopelli are very commonly used in PHX and Tuscon, too. When I decorate SWern, I almost want to have one around, but I have to stick to general sun shapes & lizards, because those represent a figure against my personal convictions... Not my thing, personally. (I like the "Thunderbird" shape a lot, too, but again, I feel guilty having them around, personally...) There's a contemporary, fun-looking book called "Crazy for Kokopelli" (or some title like that) that goes into depth about them. I flipped through and read a lot about them. Colorful image you shared, btw!
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RockHarbor wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:44 pm Cermak: Lol You just need to pack up & move there, I think. You just have a "thing" for Albq & Santa Fe, that I think you need to explore, and get out of your system. Only you know that...though. Can't say I blame you; Just the unique names "Albuquerque" and "Santa Fe" and "Las Cruces" can enchant,
Your right, I’ve known about it for a while. Very perceptive on your part. I will forget about New Mexico for a bit and then it pops back up again and again. Sometimes it just something low key like a New Mexico license plate that’s in front of me at a red light in Omaha, other times it’s more obvious like on one of the few days I look at the Wall Street Journal all year and theirs an article about Santa Fe in the travel section, eerie stuff like that. And with all Omaha’s follies pertaining to trying to build another tall building downtown it makes it all the easier to just leave. And say the heck with tall buildings. I’ll have mountains and colorful rocks and still a 22 story highrise designed by HOK’s Gyo Obata.
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I do like Albq's cute little skyline nestled between the Rio Grande River & the rugged mountains. Those HOK buildings are perfect for the city. To think they are almost 30 years old already.

Maybe it is for you? Only you know that... In no way, am I trying to ever "push" you there -- of course. You just are very interested in NM, and it is very obvious. Maybe you should return again and scope it out more, before making a move?

On Google Maps 3D, I was hovering over Albuquerque the other day (as I visit a lot of cities, including Omaha), and I looked up "Old Towne Albuquerque", and it is W/NW of the downtown high rises. I always thought it was E/SE of downtown. Not sure if you knew that. I guess the modern downtown sits a ways off from the original settlement.

Anyways, some more pics, for you to enjoy... I do love the sagebrush, with the rocky deserty Sandia Mountains, and the striking faxon yuccas & pines & junipers they use in Albuquerque landscaping. I think those faxon yuccas are actually native to West Texas and Northern Mexico. Sure beautiful... But, when around all that long enough, I then I miss the greenery, kentucky bluegrass lawns, spruces, flowers, birches in Midwest yards.

Anyways, enjoy. These pics are taken in January, when I was passing through Albq on a big "Christmas Break Loop" I drove in the western US. Thankfully, I never ran into bad weather. Almost ten years ago, I had the means & time off to drive from Lincoln to Cheyenne (where I saw the city's beautiful historic train depot, what a historic gem), to Salt Lake City, to Las Vegas, to Palm Springs, to Orange County/Laguna Beach, to Phoenix, then to Albuquerque (I drove an AZ state highway from Mesa/Phoenix, through Globe, AZ, diagonaling to ALBQ, seeing beautiful SWern canyon scenery), then to Oklahoma City (where I saw the new glistening skyscraper), to Wichita, to Lincoln. I got so many pictures, I saw so many cities. I was gone about a week and a half. It was fun; I cherish that trip, especially seeing a friend in Southern CA, and walking with him on the beach, and eating at "Wahoo's Fish Tacos" again in Laguna Beach. It was weird to drive all the way back to my homestate to Lincoln, where they had that same new "Wahoos Fish Tacos" downtown. I still cant believe Lincoln has that Southern CA joint/restaurant now.
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This picture has the skyline silhouette rising up down in the valley (off to the left). Its difficult to see. What I dont understand is you can obviously have those tall skinny Italian cypresses in Albq, and they are also all over in CA cities -- and maybe Vegas. But, I dont think you ever see them in Phoenix & Tuscon. Too hot, I guess... And, too cold for them in Denver, obviously.
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I love this suburban Albq home. It has a "CA tract home" quality, yet with a SWern twist to it. I like the glass block window w/ the large yucca. A lot of rock yards... Sometimes, I wish they would build more homes in Omaha with a narrow "CA tract home" type structure -- like this one. Yet, this a trademark more of western cities. I have to say, I do love Celebrity Home's styles -- which I feel are perfect designer styles & colors for Omaha. I think Omaha's starter home styles are as exciting as ever. No complaint here. I notice Des Moines' are similar.

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If you're from the East or Midwest, and move to a deserty, dry SWern city, you may love it, but you can still find yourself really missing the expansive fine-blade green lawns, the smell of cut grass, the flowers, the bushes, the big trees, the thunderstorms, classy traditional American houses, back home. Just reminding you -- that's all. There's great things about everywhere; Nowhere has it all.

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I can get pushed out because I'm "too much" for some. Then, an observer of me comes suddenly swooping in to "fill my shoes." People are always more accepting of the new one, because their feathers aren't truly ruffled by them. (Yawn) I can count on it every time.
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I’m not gonna just drop everything and move there now, I have to many responsibilities here. I am goin to try and go out there again and check it out more. Maybe eventually I’ll find enough stuff wrong with it or it’s allure will fade and I’ll lose interest in the area, but so far that hasn’t happened. I’m a little concerned it will become another relocation hotbed for people fleeing California and home prices will skyrocket like they have in Colorado and Arizona. Right now real estate is very affordable.

I am looking at leaving the Omaha area once I retire, and NM is on the list along with some other places. I’m not originally from the Omaha area so it would be a good time to move and seek out a new adventure. I’ve watched Omaha evolve these past 34 yrs and I feel like I’ve looked at it long enough and probably need a change. But I’ll always pull for Omaha, it’s one of those places people often give me a strange look when I tell them I’m from here , but it’s actually much better than what someone might think at first. Part of the Midwest overall image problem I guess , even Minneapolis suffers from this a bit. Chicago might be the only Midwest city immune from it.

Thanks for the pics looks like a great trip you took. I like the Bank of the West building picture from that angle, after the HOK highrise that building intrigues me the most in DT Albuquerque. They had a nice little building boom going on in the 80’s and early 90’s. Although Albuquerque’s skyline now is stagnant and they could really use another new highrise. Both Omaha and Albuquerque seem to have a hard time adding height. I was just thinking about all of Omaha’s big hotels of at least 300 rooms. They are all relatively short for the amount of rooms they have, With the exception of the DT Doubletree ( and the mayor wants to knock that down). The Hilton DT, Regency Marriott even the new Marriott just 12 floors, although I like that building a lot. It’s DT’s best new building in years and I’m glad it’s at least 12 floors and not 8.

Nebraska is beautiful in the warmer months April to early November. And this winter was much worse than what we usually get. They’ve started removing trees from the GLM and it seems like spring is just around the corner.
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Cermak wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:18 pm I’m not gonna just drop everything and move there now, I have to many responsibilities here. I am goin to try and go out there again and check it out more. Maybe eventually I’ll find enough stuff wrong with it or it’s allure will fade and I’ll lose interest in the area, but so far that hasn’t happened. I’m a little concerned it will become another relocation hotbed for people fleeing California and home prices will skyrocket like they have in Colorado and Arizona. Right now real estate is very affordable.

I am looking at leaving the Omaha area once I retire, and NM is on the list along with some other places. I’m not originally from the Omaha area so it would be a good time to move and seek out a new adventure. I’ve watched Omaha evolve these past 34 yrs and I feel like I’ve looked at it long enough and probably need a change. But I’ll always pull for Omaha, it’s one of those places people often give me a strange look when I tell them I’m from here , but it’s actually much better than what someone might think at first. Part of the Midwest overall image problem I guess , even Minneapolis suffers from this a bit. Chicago might be the only Midwest city immune from it.

Thanks for the pics looks like a great trip you took. I like the Bank of the West building picture from that angle, after the HOK highrise that building intrigues me the most in DT Albuquerque. They had a nice little building boom going on in the 80’s and early 90’s. Although Albuquerque’s skyline now is stagnant and they could really use another new highrise. Both Omaha and Albuquerque seem to have a hard time adding height. I was just thinking about all of Omaha’s big hotels of at least 300 rooms. They are all relatively short for the amount of rooms they have, With the exception of the DT Doubletree ( and the mayor wants to knock that down). The Hilton DT, Regency Marriott even the new Marriott just 12 floors, although I like that building a lot. It’s DT’s best new building in years and I’m glad it’s at least 12 floors and not 8.

Nebraska is beautiful in the warmer months April to early November. And this winter was much worse than what we usually get. They’ve started removing trees from the GLM and it seems like spring is just around the corner.
Sounds like a plan...

You've been in Omaha a long time, and have definitely seen it evolve -- wow. Yes, when you moved to Omaha, the Central Park twins & the park was very new. The Landmark Center wasn't built yet. The city fizzled out around 156th Street in the SW section of Millard. Omaha was the same place, but a different place, back then. It was more "homey & homely" back then, I think. Although seeming more innocent & unjaded & friendlier back then, I don't miss the "old Omaha" that much. I would be hypocrite if I did, because all I wanted growing up was to see it grow, grow, grow into something better. And, it has -- and, it continues to. Now, I'm actually taken back a bit by how much it sprawls, how much it feels like a western city where a lot of outsiders have moved in, and I love the downtown & atmosphere more. Also: Think of all the urban apartment/condo blocks that have went in, and continue to go in -- including the enormous Midtown Crossing. The city is a step more sophisticated now -- for sure. Even in the movie "About Schmidt", there was a capturing of Omaha before its major metamorphosis right after the turn of the Century. The FNC was just getting constructed in that movie. The Qwest Center was just in the works. The green UP cube was not built. The Gallup Campus, the double condo towers on the river, and the pedestrian bridge wasn't built. The Playland Park on the CB side wasn't done yet, and the river had all those cottonwoods making it very shady and inaccessible. North Downtown wasn't cleaned-up and built-up with brand new stuff yet. The ball park was not there yet. The major new hotels were not down there yet -- Hyatt, Hilton, Marriott, ect -- including the Capitol District as a whole. All the garden & boutique hotels were not down there yet. It really, really has changed...

The city we are both proud of:

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I'm not sure Albuquerque will ever build tall, because I read the soil under downtown (soil next to the Rio Grande) is not strong enough for very tall buildings. Plus, there's something about ALBQ that has the "Salt Lake City thing" going on, where the shorter downtown buildings look good with the dramatic rugged mountain backdrop, I think. Phoenix is like that, too. If the mountains are pretty close to the skyline, I almost think shorter is better.

Los Angeles is an exception, I think, because those San Gabriel Mountains immediately beyond the Los Angeles skyline are pretty tall & dramatic. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... r_2016.jpg

Well, best wishes figuring out where you will retire. You'll figure it all out -- I'm sure.

I have this postcard of ALBQ: https://c1.staticflickr.com/2/1659/2415 ... e3d9_b.jpg (By the way, have you noticed the shorter, flat-roofed building with the pyramidal walls, and square windows? You can see it in this picture. It says "PLAZA" on it. That totally adds to the funky desert atmosphere of ALBQ, I think, too.)

Here's a huge picture of Albuquerque, I found, that I think you will like...

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Here's another one. I just love the splash of orange/red a top the tallest pyramidal building:

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Love this canvas art: https://render.fineartamerica.com/image ... -print.jpg
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Great photos, LA looks so good in that shot, the city has so much to like. Really like the Albuquerque pictures a well, I think Albuquerque has a better skyline than Tucson. I’ve noticed that little pyramid building in Albq before it does fit in well DT. I’m not sure if AlBQ can get a skyscraper built but even a nice looking 15-20 story building would help. They need something new even more than Omaha.

When I arrived in Omaha the twin towers were basically new. I remember downtown had quite a few empty buildings which wasn’t good. The Orpheum Tower was empty, 1917 First National bank building was nearly empty and at least 4-5 other sizable buildings were vacant or nearly vacant. I know this because I walked around DT one day. I was also surprised that downtown had pretty much only one hotel the Red Lion. The Old Market was probably the most impressive part of Downtown back then as it felt very urban and not alot of cities the size of Omaha or even larger had an area like that. The French cafe was considered the best restaurant in town. Omaha really has improved, I’m excited about the hotel indigo as that is probably Omaha’s largest old building that is still sitting vacant. I never saw the hotel Fontenelle as it was already demolished by the time I got to town. Its a shame that and the old post office were lost, as well as the old Woodmen. I will say I was not crazy about the old Woodmen. Also hope they get this new GLM thing right and it helps the city, we are losing the iconic view but the new GLM will maybe get used more.
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Cermak wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:53 am Great photos, LA looks so good in that shot, the city has so much to like. Really like the Albuquerque pictures a well, I think Albuquerque has a better skyline than Tucson. I’ve noticed that little pyramid building in Albq before it does fit in well DT. I’m not sure if AlBQ can get a skyscraper built but even a nice looking 15-20 story building would help. They need something new even more than Omaha.

When I arrived in Omaha the twin towers were basically new. I remember downtown had quite a few empty buildings which wasn’t good. The Orpheum Tower was empty, 1917 First National bank building was nearly empty and at least 4-5 other sizable buildings were vacant or nearly vacant. I know this because I walked around DT one day. I was also surprised that downtown had pretty much only one hotel the Red Lion. The Old Market was probably the most impressive part of Downtown back then as it felt very urban and not alot of cities the size of Omaha or even larger had an area like that. The French cafe was considered the best restaurant in town. Omaha really has improved, I’m excited about the hotel indigo as that is probably Omaha’s largest old building that is still sitting vacant. I never saw the hotel Fontenelle as it was already demolished by the time I got to town. Its a shame that and the old post office were lost, as well as the old Woodmen. I will say I was not crazy about the old Woodmen. Also hope they get this new GLM thing right and it helps the city, we are losing the iconic view but the new GLM will maybe get used more.
Lol. You've perfectly described the Omaha I grew up in. Looking back at it, it is pretty unimpressive & glum, compared to what it is now. Yet, we didnt know anything better at the time.

Can I ask where you are from originally? You've lived in Omaha long enough that it must feel like your true "home city" by now. Since you moved there around 1985-ish, you've definitely seen it come a long ways. On that long list of Omaha changes above, I didnt mention Aksarben Village & FNB Business Park, and the West Dodge Freeway. So many changes -- yet we are still hungry for more.

I'd have to agree ALBQ's skyline is more pleasing & complete overall than Tuscon's, although I like Tuscon's tallest SWern looking tower w/ the cactus & mountains beyond. Like ALBQ, it is kind of a "different town w/ great mexican food." :)
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Speaking of Albuquerque,

Here's my favorite picture of Albuquerque....

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by Ernst Haas in 1969. It doesn't capture the overall skyline, but it captures the ridiculousness of how some strips of urban highways were developed as the automobile gained so much importance in our lives. It's a wonder how anyone could find anything along that stretch of Route 66 with all of the visual clutter. Great example of signage one-upmanship!
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Thanks for sharing that, GetUrban! Yes, Ive seen that well-known "neon strip" retro picture of ALBQ. Funny how it also captures that odd, rectangular building standing tall outside of downtown -- that's almost a signature of Albuquerque, in a way.

As far as neon strips, or neon blight, goes: I like that sometimes, to be honest. In fact, the best pictures I have personally of a crowded, busy neon strip are from San Antonio, TX. I can post them if you guys want... The best example of this in Nebraska, Ive personally come across, is the main strip through Columbus, NE. Nothing in Omaha/Lincoln/Fremont beats their strip of signs, imo. I have pics of that, too.

Today, I talked to somebody from ALBQ, and mentioned that I know of somebody who is thinking of retiring there (Cermak), and I asked how he liked it. Him & his wife did like it, including the elevation. They were from the Dallas-FW metroplex originally, and that was getting way too big for them.

I was thinking about the name."Albuquerque" today, and it is such a great name for a western desert city, imo. Its almost like...Antonio, or Alamosa, or Alamogardo, or something. I like all those SW-sounding names that start with an 'A.'
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I actually have a large framed poster-sized print of that Ernst Haas photo I posted above. It's amazing how many things you can find in the photo that spark childhood memories of all those familiar brands of things. Some of the old highways that used run through Arkansas in the Bentonville-Rogers-Fayetteville strips had similar visual clutter. They've built by-passes around the old strips now. It brings back memories of long family road trips way back when.

I think I'll probably consider retiring in ALBQ, Tucson, or maybe elsewhere in the SW too, just to get away from the hard winters here in Omaha.
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Can I ask where you are from originally? You've lived in Omaha long enough that it must feel like your true "home city" by now. Since you moved there around 1985-ish, you've definitely seen it come a long ways.
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Originally from suburban Chicago area, not the city, big difference between the two. Omaha feels like home now , won’t be easy to leave. I’ll still be here a while as I have to work at least 5 more yrs.

I’ve seen that tall suburban building in Albuquerque, it reminds me of our Omaha tower a little except different colors. That’s funny how both Albuquerque and Omaha have a tall international style suburban office tower.

I also want to check out Tucson as a possible retirement location as I’ve never been there before. Been to Phoenix several times. To me Phoenix has gotten to big.
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GetUrban wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2019 5:46 pm I actually have a large framed poster-sized print of that Ernst Haas photo I posted above. It's amazing how many things you can find in the photo that spark childhood memories of all those familiar brands of things. Some of the old highways that used run through Arkansas in the Bentonville-Rogers-Fayetteville strips had similar visual clutter. They've built by-passes around the old strips now. It brings back memories of long family road trips way back when.

I think I'll probably consider retiring in ALBQ, Tucson, or maybe elsewhere in the SW too, just to get away from the hard winters here in Omaha.
You grew up in that Bentonville, AR area string of cities? Or, did you mean you just took road trips there? Which boulevard was the main one with all the signs? Just curious, as the "sister" towns are kind of in that scattered pattern.

I do love that print. That's a "busy picture" if I've ever seen one. I'm wondering if he is looking up towards the mountains or towards the valley in that shot? (I think the mountains.) And, how did the black sky come about? (I almost wonder if it was a heavy rain storm, and that was taken with the bright sun on the backside of the storm shining on all the signs, making the storm look really black. Then, the whole photo was manipulated. The photo does look taken after rain to me -- of course.)

Tuscon is almost like a "low desert Albuquerque" in a way. I've been there several times. Phoenix is probably more "me", but I can appreciate Tuscon's SW charms. Its a little odd, but all SW cities are a bit odd, I think -- Phoenix and Vegas seeming the most normal. El Paso is definitely odd, yet it intrigues me kinda. You might enjoy Las Cruces, NM -- not too far north of El Paso. It's not that big, but that's a decent, growing retirement area, too. I spent about a month there once. I did like it, to a degree. You may like St George, UT or Mesquite, NV, too. They are nice. (St. George is the first town you see a desert palm tree in when driving from Salt Lake City to Las Vegas.) There's also Santa Fe, Palm Springs. Grand Junction, CO is surrounded by beautiful red rock & juniper country -- yet can get some winter.

St. George: https://www.zionnationalpark.com/wp-con ... 24x630.jpg
Mesquite: https://ap.rdcpix.com/2102215794/a57f0a ... 70_q80.jpg
El Paso: https://www.motherjones.com/wp-content/ ... .jpg?w=990
Las Cruces: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... ntains.jpg

Tuscon: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/XccGmiYUusI/maxresdefault.jpg
Another Tuscon: https://poetry.arizona.edu/sites/poetry ... hevron.jpg
One of Tuscon that shows how "desert quirky" and dusty it is: https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5071/5897 ... e3a4_b.jpg

Growing up, my stepdad's job almost transferred us to Tuscon, and I was disappointed that it didn't work out, because he had a local real estate book I flipped through, and I was dreaming of living in some CA-style tract home w/ desert mountains behind it. Now, those things aren't that big of a deal to me anymore. And, as an adult, visiting it finally years later, I realized that it was probably better that it didn't work out back then. That would have been a big, big change from Omaha -- one I'm not sure I would have liked as a youngster. The town's a little weird and dusty, plus I would have missed all my Omaha peeps. I would like it better now, I think, as an adult. Its different & extreme in some ways, feeling somewhat like "partly Mexico", but its surely "authentic Southern Arizona." Phoenix is more American-seeming and "Plasticville." There's probably a little more green grass & "normal trees" around in ALBQ than Tuscon, with the higher elevation.

That solo suburban ALBQ building is seen a movie. While seeing it, I kept thinking "I know that building. Where is that?" The city had yuccas and rock and mountains in the backdrop. It was supposed to be El Paso, but I knew better inside -- although deserty El Paso was believable. Of course, it was ALBQ when I looked up the filming locations. They were filming this "Desert Sands Hotel", which is no longer there, and you can see that noted building right there: https://i2.wp.com/www.route66news.com/w ... wk-min.jpg (I totally appreciate those funky, old retro signs -- especially when they involve desert flora. That is one of the best I've ever seen. Here's another: https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3382/326 ... 16b6_b.jpg And, another: https://media.gettyimages.com/videos/sh ... ?s=640x640)

Cermak: Chicagoland, eh? Always loved Chicago -- in fact, was obsessed about it growing up. When I was a kid, our Omaha neighbors moved to Schaumburg, IL -- and I was always drawn to that Chicago suburb since. Almost jealous, as they lived in a really neat cosmo home, and their two kids attended an artsy high school downtown -- taking the train into the mighty city everyday, enjoying the view of a huge skyline, "living the dream" while I was left back in Omaha. They even offered to let me go live with them, but my parents wouldn't let it happen -- of course. (It almost makes me wonder if I had "skyscrapers in my eyes" even over my family. Lol. Honestly, I don't think I would have gone, even though I wanted Chicago BAD -- so bad it hurt.) We visited them one summer, and I went to Woodfield Mall. So, that's "my burb" now when I visit the city. I stay out in that area, then go downtown from there, and I visit Woodfield Mall. In fact, the hotel I stay at in that area has this view of Chicago from the work out room: https://www.arlingtoncardinal.com/wordp ... NE-595.jpg Opposed to staying right downtown, there's something neat about staying way out in the suburbs, at a far distance from downtown, the same distance Downtown Omaha is to Fremont, and looking at the powerful skyline/city center from 35 miles away. https://www.ahpd.org/assets/1/6/winter_fun.jpg

(By the way, they ended up moving back to Omaha years later. "Omaha tends to draw people back" I've heard it said, and that seems to be true a lot.)

When you moved to Omaha in the mid 80's, I imagine it must have looked so small to you. Yet, maybe that was what you wanted... Maybe you wanted a break from the big "rat race" of the Chicagoland metro.

One thing that is nice, is that we can talk about everything from New York to Chicago to Omaha to Wichita to Albuquerque to Tuscon, and we're not hung up on how big a city is, or how tall their buildings are, or how many malls and freeways they have. It doesn't really matter. We both appreciate Chicago, and we both appreciate Wichita, and we both appreciate Albuquerque -- as simply American cities of different size & element.
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Just wanted/needed to post some pics:

First off, the busiest "neon strip" Ive seen in person, in San Antonio, TX. It's still not as busy as that ALBQ strip, though.

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The busiest "neon strip" Ive seen in Nebraska, in Columbus. Of course, it doesnt compare to ALBQ in that 60's shot. (If anyone knows of a busier one in NE, I'd like to know...)

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A shot of Omaha I took once after a heavy storm, with the sun on the backside of the storm making Omaha's buildings glow, and the sky look very dark. I manipilated the photo. I think this is the scenerio that created that famous 60's ALBQ shot.

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Reno is not technically a "SWern city", yet there's plenty of SWern element here. It sometimes feels like it is the Southwest at times. Its where the sagebrush Great Basin desert meets the pine-dotted, snowy, alpine Sierra Nevada Mountains. Therefore, much like SLC, the city is a mix of contemporary, mountain lodge, southwestern/adobe, western, and Spanish/Californian style residential designs. All those work here, and are fully justified. (I tend to like cities that are more a consistent theme, like Phoenix & Albuquerque, but whatever.) Yards can have rock, sagebrush & western junipers here, or typical grass & regular trees & bushes -- the same ones that you see planted in Omaha. A lot of birches around. Giant seqouias are unique to this Sierra Nevada region, though. (They are huge conifers, even when young. See pic at bottom of this post.) Also: Joshua trees (yucca trees) have a natural range that start 3-4 hours south of here, yet I was here at least a year before I discovered they are, in fact, transplanted here and somehow survive. Ive been startled, finding large joshua trees & yuccas in town.

Some local pics from here, since you guys like SWern elements.

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San Antonio, TX is one SWern city that I feel is easy to forget when you're talking abiut SWern cities, because it's so far down there. It's where the culture of Mexico, SWern Native American culture, and the culture of America's South all converge. It's definitely the SWern city with the most greenery around. Great, colorful, festive city.

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The sequoias mentioned: Even when fairly young, they are like bushy, tall "rockets" surrounding this home. You can tell they are genetically huge trees, and will someday grow into giants. You can plant one in the East, and it will grow, but they never look healthy & majestic back there, like they do in the Sierra Nevada western region. Technically, you may be able to plant on in Omaha. Not sure...
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Omaha seemed smaller of course, but I didn’t mind it. I was young and it gave me a chance to have my own apartment and car and act like a grown up. The hot summers took a while to get used to, Chicago summers are generally a little cooler because of Lake Michigan and just being more removed from the dry Great Plains region. Omaha back then seemed to be really focused on sprawling to the west. DT didn’t have the best reputation, it’s rep didn’t improve until they built the new arena and convention center.

That picture you have of Omaha after the heavy storm shows the Westbrook tower. A seldom mentioned building in Omaha. That building has always struck me as a peculiar looking thing. I guess at one time it was a hotel. It is 17 stories tall so that’s good. It looks to have been built in the 60’s or early 70’s. Its one of those buildings you hardly notice and is easy to forget about. It does add some height to that part of downtown. I suppose if it was in a different location it would cross my mind more. Now I think it’s apartments and used by Creighton students.
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Cermak wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2019 4:00 pm Omaha seemed smaller of course, but I didn’t mind it. I was young and it gave me a chance to have my own apartment and car and act like a grown up. The hot summers took a while to get used to, Chicago summers are generally a little cooler because of Lake Michigan and just being more removed from the dry Great Plains region. Omaha back then seemed to be really focused on sprawling to the west. DT didn’t have the best reputation, it’s rep didn’t improve until they built the new arena and convention center.

That picture you have of Omaha after the heavy storm shows the Westbrook tower. A seldom mentioned building in Omaha. That building has always struck me as a peculiar looking thing. I guess at one time it was a hotel. It is 17 stories tall so that’s good. It looks to have been built in the 60’s or early 70’s. Its one of those buildings you hardly notice and is easy to forget about. It does add some height to that part of downtown. I suppose if it was in a different location it would cross my mind more. Now I think it’s apartments and used by Creighton students.
I like the idea of you waving goodbye to big, expensive, loud Chicago, and then driving west to more affordable & calmer Omaha, the city giving you a better chance at life, welcoming you with open arms, convincing you to make it your home until retirement. (Im totally being cheesy, but that sums up your experience!)

That Westwood Tower is funky. It does add a likeable quirky urban element to Downtown Omaha. Ive always thought that when I could see it.

Not much more to say, other than Ive been thinking about how Denver, Salt Lake City, and Reno all straddle the mountain/southwest USA regional lines. Denver is considered a city of the Southwest in some publications. Salt Lake City is just a little bit further north than Denver, and Reno is basically straight west of Denver. It's a "tough call" when cities straddle a merging regional line.
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RockHarbor wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:04 pm
GetUrban wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2019 5:46 pm I actually have a large framed poster-sized print of that Ernst Haas photo I posted above. It's amazing how many things you can find in the photo that spark childhood memories of all those familiar brands of things. Some of the old highways that used run through Arkansas in the Bentonville-Rogers-Fayetteville strips had similar visual clutter. They've built by-passes around the old strips now. It brings back memories of long family road trips way back when.

I think I'll probably consider retiring in ALBQ, Tucson, or maybe elsewhere in the SW too, just to get away from the hard winters here in Omaha.
You grew up in that Bentonville, AR area string of cities? Or, did you mean you just took road trips there? Which boulevard was the main one with all the signs? Just curious, as the "sister" towns are kind of in that scattered pattern.

I do love that print. That's a "busy picture" if I've ever seen one. I'm wondering if he is looking up towards the mountains or towards the valley in that shot? (I think the mountains.) And, how did the black sky come about? (I almost wonder if it was a heavy rain storm, and that was taken with the bright sun on the backside of the storm shining on all the signs, making the storm look really black. Then, the whole photo was manipulated. The photo does look taken after rain to me -- of course.)
I've lived in Omaha since 1967, but had family in southern Arkansas, so my family made several trips down there through my childhood, usually once or twice a year. I think it was Hy US 77 that went south from KC. Could be wrong. I'll have to dig up an old highway map to see which exact towns we might have passed through. I do know it was strip-city for a long stretch in southern Missouri and northern Arkansas. The mountainous areas were pretty though, nothing like the Rockies, of course. I'll post an old map if I can find one.

That photo was taken right after a thunderstorm passed through ABQ. The backside of the storms always look almost black when the sun hits them just right. I don't think that photo was manipulated at all, since photoshop didn't exist. But they might have used some darkroom techniques...I don't know. I think it was just a lucky shot with all of the right conditions coming together, plus some photography skills that caught that particular moment in time.
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GetUrban wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2019 6:41 pm
RockHarbor wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:04 pm
GetUrban wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2019 5:46 pm I actually have a large framed poster-sized print of that Ernst Haas photo I posted above. It's amazing how many things you can find in the photo that spark childhood memories of all those familiar brands of things. Some of the old highways that used run through Arkansas in the Bentonville-Rogers-Fayetteville strips had similar visual clutter. They've built by-passes around the old strips now. It brings back memories of long family road trips way back when.

I think I'll probably consider retiring in ALBQ, Tucson, or maybe elsewhere in the SW too, just to get away from the hard winters here in Omaha.
You grew up in that Bentonville, AR area string of cities? Or, did you mean you just took road trips there? Which boulevard was the main one with all the signs? Just curious, as the "sister" towns are kind of in that scattered pattern.

I do love that print. That's a "busy picture" if I've ever seen one. I'm wondering if he is looking up towards the mountains or towards the valley in that shot? (I think the mountains.) And, how did the black sky come about? (I almost wonder if it was a heavy rain storm, and that was taken with the bright sun on the backside of the storm shining on all the signs, making the storm look really black. Then, the whole photo was manipulated. The photo does look taken after rain to me -- of course.)
I've lived in Omaha since 1967, but had family in southern Arkansas, so my family made several trips down there through my childhood, usually once or twice a year. I think it was Hy US 77 that went south from KC. Could be wrong. I'll have to dig up an old highway map to see which exact towns we might have passed through. I do know it was strip-city for a long stretch in southern Missouri and northern Arkansas. The mountainous areas were pretty though, nothing like the Rockies, of course. I'll post an old map if I can find one.

That photo was taken right after a thunderstorm passed through ABQ. The backside of the storms always look almost black when the sun hits them just right. I don't think that photo was manipulated at all, since photoshop didn't exist. But they might have used some darkroom techniques...I don't know. I think it was just a lucky shot with all of the right conditions coming together, plus some photography skills that caught that particular moment in time.
I think you're spot on about that picture. I thought all the same things regarding it. Yes, he was at the right place at the right time.

No pressure to get that highway. I was just curious. I kind of wish I could explore that Bentonville area more. It doesnt "make sense" to me yet. I dont understand that area...
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Found a really great picture of Albuquerque. It has that pretty pink sky with the colors I talked about in the first post: https://www.movebuddha.com/wp-content/u ... que_NM.jpg

A splashy downtown fountain: https://blog.storage.com/wp-content/upl ... uerque.jpg (At first I was thinking it would be nice for Omaha to have a splashy water feature, but it actually already does over by the First National Center.)

Finally, got these done, if interested. I flew right over Santa Fe, NM. And I could, of course, could see Albuquerque (and Rio Rancho, NM) just to the south. I, of course, thought of this thread.

Pictures taken out of commercial airlines usually BITE, like these do, but I still think they are worth seeing...

ALBUQUERQUE (You can see the Rio Grande River)

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I have to say, the commercial flight path I took gave me such a grand tour of much of the West. I flew over/by Albuquerque/Santa Fe, then over Monument Valley, UT/AZ (I could look straight down on red rock mittens), then over Lake Powell, AZ, then over Bryce Canyon National Park, UT and Cedar City, UT, and then nearby Zion National Park, UT.

Mittens of Monument Valley, UT/AZ: https://www.americansouthwest.net/utah/ ... vbutte.jpg

I was almost startled to see another commercial airline a bit lower, and a ways away. The "big plane" at the airport looks so small against the big backdrop here. (Yet, when you zoom down on Omaha on Google Maps Satellite View, or any city for that matter, and look at the jets at the airport, they are pretty small compared to the whole city -- of course. So, I should expect one to look small against that backdrop.)

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Your lucky you had clear sky’s. I always feel like such a novice flyer when I’m looking out the windows on a plane. Most experienced travelers never bother looking out the window. But sometimes it’s fun to try and figure out what some of the cities are. Flew over Cleveland and Detroit once on a beautiful clear night, both looked incredible, like you could just reach out and touch them.
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Yeah, it was neat seeing Albuquerque and Rio Grande River bathed in the glory of early evening light, under mostly clear skies, with only an occasional puffy cloud. There's something about Albuquerque... Is it the funky name, or what? (I think it is simply the fact that it is a very different & unique US city on the high desert, tucked on the backside of those rocky Sandia mountains, a city with a very different name.) It is kind of like the big volcano outside of Mexico City "Popocatepetl." It has such a unique dramatic name, one that is difficult to say, that it almost adds mystique to its domain and lair, or something -- making some people's intrigue and imagination act up. Therefore, it is almost easy to look at it as being even more special than it really is. Yet, you get there, and it is just a city, just a snowy mountain. (Compare that name with something plain and usual, like "Mount Baker" -- or something. That's why I think it is not only fair & decent, but also enhancing, returning mountain names to their original Native American names -- like Mt McKinnley back to "Denali" in Alaska.) I just really like saying "Popocatepetl", and have to practice saying it... "PO-PO-CAT-E-PET-EL." Maybe it is kind of the same with Albuquerque.

Mt. Popocatepetl outside Mexico City: https://www.fly4free.com/wp-content/upl ... 50x260.png

I was looking at a new picture of Chicago recently, and the city is just noticeably obtaining more & more architectural splendor with each passing decade, and I then thought of little, dusty Albuquerque with its little mostly unchanging skyline, and wondered why it would ever interest me, or intrigue me -- but it just does. The great thing about cities is that they don't have to be Chicago or New York to be worth your love & attention. (I'll probably always have a healthy obsession with my hometown and Des Moines, for one.)

When I was younger, Albuquerque intrigued me in a way, but it was never a place I considered ever moving to, never choosing it over nearby, more sophisticated & cosmopolitan western cities like Denver and Phoenix. In fact, it really seems so offbeat compared to all-American Denver/Colorado Springs to the north of it. Yet, I dont think a person ever considers moving there because it is so "sophisticated" and "cosmopolitan" -- unless you look at it that way, because you grew up in small town New Mexico. Although it has typical office buildings, malls, and suburbia, I think it offers something slightly different from Denver & Phoenix, like more "earthy" or "organic" or something.

It is neat that you got to see Detroit and Cleveland from the air, at night. I know the layout of major US cities so well from looking at maps and atlases (and now online maps) for most of my life, that I know what city I'm looking at (day or night), just by the way it is laid-out.

It is nice looking out the window. It is entertaining. It is exhilarating seeing things from the air. However, I don't even try to get a "window seat" anymore. If I happen to get one, that is great. But, I think an aisle seat is better nowadays.
I can get pushed out because I'm "too much" for some. Then, an observer of me comes suddenly swooping in to "fill my shoes." People are always more accepting of the new one, because their feathers aren't truly ruffled by them. (Yawn) I can count on it every time.
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Re: aLbuRQuerQue

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Right ,I could tell it was Cleveland because I could remember how it’s laid out when looking at maps and Google earth, plus the lake made it pretty obvious. We just skirted the extreme southern edge of Detroit, that was a little more difficult to make out than Cleveland. But it was considerably larger than Cleveland. We also went just south of Chicago as well before flying into Iowa and Omaha. The sky was very clear that night. I do like to look out the windows, but I agree aisle seats are now my favorite. Window seats can feel claustrophobic to me sometimes, you just feel like your trapped. Especially if a really big person is right next to you. That happened once on a flight from Charlotte to Omaha. Aisle seats are better.
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Re: aLbuRQuerQue

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Sure. Crescent-shaped Cleveland metro hugs the lake's edge, much like the crescent-shaped Chicago and Toronto metro do. (I wish I could just "thumb up" people's remarks sometimes. I don't always have to get the last word, but I feel the need to respond.)

Do you see what I mean about Albuquerque's name? I mean, imagine it called "Bunt City, NM" -- or something. It would be as alluring and attractive, and stir the imagination. That's how I feel, anyways...
I can get pushed out because I'm "too much" for some. Then, an observer of me comes suddenly swooping in to "fill my shoes." People are always more accepting of the new one, because their feathers aren't truly ruffled by them. (Yawn) I can count on it every time.
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Re: aLbuRQuerQue

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Correction: It WOULDN'T be as alluring & attractive (if it were named "Bunt City, NM" or something).

Here is a nice video aerial I found of Albuquerque, Cermak: https://www.axiomimages.com/aerial-stoc ... 02_126_012 It's kinda cool.

I also recently realized that HOK possibly got color/design cues for Albuquerque Plaza from Albuquerque's historic station downtown. We always felt the tallest matched ALBQ well. https://img-aws.ehowcdn.com/400x400/ds- ... spor_1.jpg
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Re: aLbuRQuerQue

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Albuquerque is a great name. And does help the city. I’m looking for Albuquerque to start growing fast again. I heard the state was very hard hit by the “Great Recession”. It lost alot of government type jobs .This explains the slower growth it’s had the last 10 or so years. So much of Albuquerque reminded me of Omaha. They are about the same size and have similar amenities. Both have large Air Force bases. Both have the state Capital roughly an hour away. Albuquerque has better scenery and weather than Omaha in my opinion, but Omaha is also attractive in its own way. But I feel Omaha’s weather is its biggest problem. And in general Omaha has lower crime and a more diverse/better economy than Albuquerque. I know some people don’t like Albuquerque and it does need to improve its skyline.
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Re: aLbuRQuerQue

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Right. If somebody said "Sum up the state of Alburquerque in 200 or so words! Go!", you did a perfect job doing it. Lol.
I can get pushed out because I'm "too much" for some. Then, an observer of me comes suddenly swooping in to "fill my shoes." People are always more accepting of the new one, because their feathers aren't truly ruffled by them. (Yawn) I can count on it every time.