Urban Grocery Store

Doctor Fate · Post by **Doctor Fate** » Wed Jul 31, 2019 2:10 am

Omahacritic wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:54 pm Have never considered Trader Joe’s to be good prices. Neat things to buy there, but they are a niche store.

Grocery stores like a population base of 5000 people.
Zip code 68102 has 6,000 residents. (Probably more).
68108 has 14000 residents though only some of those are below Vinson St. North and west will add thousands more residents.

Living downtown, we mostly go to Council Bluffs HyVee. Easier to navigate traffic.
So, food dollars go to Iowa. Dollars for non-food groceries goes to Iowa. Gasoline dollars ... Iowa.
Sales tax revenue on non-food sales goes to Iowa.

Trader Joe's is cheaper than Hy-Vee, Whole Foods, Fresh Thyme, Sprouts, etc. and a lot of their options are organic. Every TJ's I've been to in NE, VA, DC, AZ, and out here in UT is usually packed. The one in downtown SLC is always busy, much busier than the Harmons (similar to Hy-Vee and in a better location) and Whole Foods. It is right off a TRAX LRT station though, so that probably helps but Whole Foods is also right next to it.

Greg S · Post by **Greg S** » Wed Jul 31, 2019 2:34 pm

I've always thought Consentino's or something like them has a great blueprint for a DT Omaha grocery store. When we go to KC we now usually stay downtown and go to it almost every trip. Full line, plus cafe and tons of great to go options.

http://cosentinosmarket.com/locations/downtown/

Also, I don't think DT though is as desperate for grocery as it might have seemed a few years ago. With the new Hy Vee on Broadway, I'm assuming they deliver to DT Omaha. If I lived DT and that was an option, I think it would be very attractive.

Greg

ScrattyB · Post by **ScrattyB** » Wed Jul 31, 2019 5:36 pm

ricko wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:11 pm Correct me if I'm wrong, but I can't believe that the closest store of any size, besides Wohlners, is on Saddle Creek Road.

Supermercado Nuestra Familia is closer. I go there sometimes.

Busguy2010 · Post by **Busguy2010** » Wed Jul 31, 2019 5:56 pm

ScrattyB wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2019 5:36 pm
ricko wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:11 pm Correct me if I'm wrong, but I can't believe that the closest store of any size, besides Wohlners, is on Saddle Creek Road.
Supermercado Nuestra Familia is closer. I go there sometimes.

Family Fare with better ethnic options and Spanish signage. Theres one on Vinton as well. Both are served directly by bus. Only about a 8 minute ride per each store.

Cermak · Post by **Cermak** » Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:55 pm

And Cubby’s in the old market is another option as well as the one in midtown crossing. Both of those while not a HyVee offer a basic grocery shopping experience if you just need to get something quick.

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Wed Jul 31, 2019 11:36 pm

We’ve all veered a bIt off topic here.. But with the addition of the new Kiewit HQ’s, and the continued mixed use growth of North Downtown as a whole, the area definitely can support a full service grocery store. While another Cubby’s would be adequate; I believe the time is now for a full service grocery store within the downtown core..

I don’t believe the core should be shortchanged. Would love to see a HyVee or even (god forbid

) the Walmart grocery store concept open in North Downtown...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

Busguy2010 · Post by **Busguy2010** » Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:01 am

Omaha Cowboy wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2019 11:36 pm I don’t believe the core should be shortchanged. Would love to see a HyVee or even (god forbid ) the Walmart grocery store concept open in North Downtown...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

Those are the two that I think could make it happen... though, I bet a hypothetical Walmart neighborhood market would be standalone. And I wouldn't even mind it. Let's get a grocery store down there already. I think our callings for mixed use this and that are honestly holding back the potential of a legitimate downtown grocer.

Busguy2010 · Post by **Busguy2010** » Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:05 am

In fact, a standalone Walmart neighborhood market on the southeast corner of 16th and Webster would be freakin awesome in my book. But there would be no room for parking so probably a no go.

Okay I'm done

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Thu Aug 01, 2019 2:13 am

Busguy2010 wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:01 am
Omaha Cowboy wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2019 11:36 pm I don’t believe the core should be shortchanged. Would love to see a HyVee or even (god forbid ) the Walmart grocery store concept open in North Downtown...

Ciao..LiO...Peace
Those are the two that I think could make it happen... though, I bet a hypothetical Walmart neighborhood market would be standalone. And I wouldn't even mind it. Let's get a grocery store down there already. I think our callings for mixed use this and that are honestly holding back the potential of a legitimate downtown grocer.

I completely agree

...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

Omahacritic · Post by **Omahacritic** » Thu Aug 01, 2019 3:56 am

Cubby’s just doesn’t cut it for downtown. Selection is too limited. But I’m glad it’s there.

WalMart, HyVee, Bakers or whatever ... full service market is needed. Nebraska loses Sales Tax revenue for every roll of toilet paper bought in Council Bluffs by residents living Downtown.
Not to mention the convenience factor for commuters who need to make a stop for dinner groceries before heading west (or east) after work.

Cermak · Post by **Cermak** » Thu Aug 01, 2019 1:56 pm

I really doubt HyVee will open a store in downtown Omaha. At least not anytime soon. The store in Council Bluffs is reasonably close to DT Omaha and keeps the taxes in their home state. I really don’t mind Cubby’s and it must be doing OK as it’s been open for a while. A Neighborhood Walmart I could see downtown before a HyVee.

GrandpaaSmucker · Post by **GrandpaaSmucker** » Thu Aug 01, 2019 5:26 pm

Cermak wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2019 1:56 pm I really doubt HyVee will open a store in downtown Omaha. At least not anytime soon. The store in Council Bluffs is reasonably close to DT Omaha and keeps the taxes in their home state. I really don’t mind Cubby’s and it must be doing OK as it’s been open for a while. A Neighborhood Walmart I could see downtown before a HyVee.

I think we all kind of know that HyVee looked hard at building a store downtown and chickened out. It was a wise move for HyVee to cut and run as the chances of the plan ending well were questionable. I don't know nothing about downtown Des Moines or downtown anywhere else but I know downtown Omaha and opening a grocery store down there would be big time risky.

nativeomahan · Post by **nativeomahan** » Fri Aug 02, 2019 1:07 am

And of course corporations never, ever take risks....

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Fri Aug 02, 2019 3:15 am

nativeomahan wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 1:07 am And of course corporations never, ever take risks....

Never. Ever.

...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

Omahacritic · Post by **Omahacritic** » Fri Aug 02, 2019 4:02 am

nativeomahan wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 1:07 am And of course corporations never, ever take risks....

Nope.

Reality, grocery can be too risky. Groceries are a low margin business. And if downtown land gets too expensive, making the margin is difficult.
The high margin aspects of the business are liquor and tobacco. But those products might not attract the right crowd at a North Downtown location.

In other news ... Kiewitt HQ crane was active again today.

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Fri Aug 02, 2019 4:43 am

Omahacritic wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 4:02 am
nativeomahan wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 1:07 am And of course corporations never, ever take risks....
Nope.

Reality, grocery can be too risky. Groceries are a low margin business. And if downtown land gets too expensive, making the margin is difficult.

But, if there is the sustainable population base, typically businesses like a full service grocer, will arrive..

The population numbers don’t lie. Like I stated in an earlier post, it’s become a matter of who will make a commitment and pull the trigger.. If not HyVee, I can see the Walmart grocery store concept as a real possibly for North Downtown..

If I was asked to predict today, when a full service grocery store will announce/open in the downtown core area, I’d say by 24-36 months from today. If you asked me that question 5 or 6 years ago, you’d get crickets, lol...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

joleo · Post by **joleo** » Fri Aug 02, 2019 2:57 pm

Omaha Cowboy wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 4:43 am
Omahacritic wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 4:02 am
nativeomahan wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 1:07 am And of course corporations never, ever take risks....
Nope.

Reality, grocery can be too risky. Groceries are a low margin business. And if downtown land gets too expensive, making the margin is difficult.
But, if there is the sustainable population base, typically businesses like a full service grocer, will arrive..

The population numbers don’t lie. Like I stated in an earlier post, it’s become a matter of who will make a commitment and pull the trigger.. If not HyVee, I can see the Walmart grocery store concept as a real possibly for North Downtown..

If I was asked to predict today, when a full service grocery store will announce/open in the downtown core area, I’d say by 24-36 months from today. If you asked me that question 5 or 6 years ago, you’d get crickets, lol...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

How many housing units are downtown omaha within a 6 block walking distance of a grocery store and where would the be? Here in Des Moines, we got a Hy-Vee downtown about 2 years ago, the amount of housing within a walking distance of 6 blocks is huge now when 15 years ago that number was tiny! Here in Des Moines somebody told me that within a 1 mile circle of the Hy-Vee there are 8,500 housing units now up from under 1,000 15 years ago. I don't know the 6 block radius numbers for Des Moines though.

Attached is an exhibit with a 1 mile circle and a 0.75 mile circle drawn with Hy-Vee at the center. I first drew that 1 mile circle and using my extensive knowledge of downtown and the amount of people I know living down there, the 0.75 mile radius is more accurate for who goes to this new Hy-Vee. The 1-mile radius is too large and those people tend to shop at other stores and were not drawn to the Hy-Vee when it opened.

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Fri Aug 02, 2019 4:35 pm

joleo wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 2:57 pm
Omaha Cowboy wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 4:43 am
Omahacritic wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 4:02 am
nativeomahan wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 1:07 am And of course corporations never, ever take risks....
Nope.

Reality, grocery can be too risky. Groceries are a low margin business. And if downtown land gets too expensive, making the margin is difficult.
But, if there is the sustainable population base, typically businesses like a full service grocer, will arrive..

The population numbers don’t lie. Like I stated in an earlier post, it’s become a matter of who will make a commitment and pull the trigger.. If not HyVee, I can see the Walmart grocery store concept as a real possibly for North Downtown..

If I was asked to predict today, when a full service grocery store will announce/open in the downtown core area, I’d say by 24-36 months from today. If you asked me that question 5 or 6 years ago, you’d get crickets, lol...

Ciao..LiO...Peace
How many housing units are downtown omaha within a 6 block walking distance of a grocery store and where would the be? Here in Des Moines, we got a Hy-Vee downtown about 2 years ago, the amount of housing within a walking distance of 6 blocks is huge now when 15 years ago that number was tiny! Here in Des Moines somebody told me that within a 1 mile circle of the Hy-Vee there are 8,500 housing units now up from under 1,000 15 years ago. I don't know the 6 block radius numbers for Des Moines though.

Attached is an exhibit with a 1 mile circle and a 0.75 mile circle drawn with Hy-Vee at the center. I first drew that 1 mile circle and using my extensive knowledge of downtown and the amount of people I know living down there, the 0.75 mile radius is more accurate for who goes to this new Hy-Vee. The 1-mile radius is too large and those people tend to shop at other stores and were not drawn to the Hy-Vee when it opened.

A good and valid question. In following our discussion, we’re proposing the potential full service grocery in the northwest corner of the block near where Kiewit is building their new world HQ’s in North Downtown. Within a 6 block radius from there, there has been a sizzling number of residential development that has either opened within the past 3 years, currently under construction, or has recently been announced. Included within a reasonable radius (perhaps a bit over 6 blocks) is the Creighton University campus and more than 3000 students live on campus (that number might be closer to 4000 actually). Also probably within a 6 block to 1 mile radius of this location, is the recently opened Capitol District and several other new housing developments..

I don’t know the exact numbers, but I do know today, compared to 10, even 5 years ago, housing has really grown within the overall downtown core area. Perhaps somebody has the time to come up with the exact (or a reasonable estimate) of housing unit numbers currently available and under construction..again, the numbers have shot up. And trend indicates they will continue to do so..

But as I’ve stated previously, the sustainable population base is there, it’s just a matter of who pulls the trigger and makes the commitment...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

Omahacritic · Post by **Omahacritic** » Sat Aug 03, 2019 4:16 am

Census numbers are old. But, Within 1 mile south it’s something like 6,000 residents. North and west is more. But there are over 36000 workers who can conceivably shop for dinner groceries before going home especially given the number of commuter parking in the vicinity.

Today I walked the North Downtown area. Burt St from 15th to 20th is just old 1 story structures with huge lots.

Picture this ... two story structure with first level parking, grocery and additional parking on second level.

Omahacritic · Post by **Omahacritic** » Sat Aug 03, 2019 4:22 am

Just looked it up.

15,000 within 1 mile of 16 and Cuming St. Projections are 17000 by year 2024
138000 with 3 miles.

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Sat Aug 03, 2019 5:49 pm

Omahacritic wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2019 4:22 am Just looked it up.

15,000 within 1 mile of 16 and Cuming St. Projections are 17000 by year 2024
138000 with 3 miles.

Thanks for taking the time to look the data up..

As has previously been stated, the sustainable population base is there.. And with more businesses, like Kiewit, and residential developments popping up within the next several years, the question really becomes- Why wouldn’t a grocer want to locate in this area? Short-sightedness and lack of vision has always been an issue in the past as it relates to downtown Omaha. But the year is 2019, not 1989..

Just waiting for a grocer to step up to the plate and make it happen...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

ricko · Post by **ricko** » Sat Aug 03, 2019 6:28 pm

Omaha Cowboy wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2019 5:49 pm
Omahacritic wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2019 4:22 am Just looked it up.

15,000 within 1 mile of 16 and Cuming St. Projections are 17000 by year 2024
138000 with 3 miles.
Thanks for taking the time to look the data up..

As has previously been stated, the sustainable population base is there.. And with more businesses, like Kiewit, and residential developments popping up within the next several years, the question really becomes- Why wouldn’t a grocer want to locate in this area? Short-sightedness and lack of vision has always been an issue in the past as it relates to downtown Omaha. But the year is 2019, not 1989..

Just waiting for a grocer to step up to the plate and make it happen...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

I really don't get it. Maybe the mayor/city council need a nudge. I'd get them involved, especially since Omaha hands out TIF deferments like candy--seems to be a no-brainer. If I were living there full time, I'd start a petition drive to encourage the city's politicos to pursue this.

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 6:46 pm

ricko wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2019 6:28 pm
Omaha Cowboy wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2019 5:49 pm
Omahacritic wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2019 4:22 am
As has previously been stated, the sustainable population base is there.. And with more businesses, like Kiewit, and residential developments popping up within the next several years, the question really becomes- Why wouldn’t a grocer want to locate in this area? Short-sightedness and lack of vision has always been an issue in the past as it relates to downtown Omaha. But the year is 2019, not 1989..

Just waiting for a grocer to step up to the plate and make it happen...

Ciao..LiO...Peace
I really don't get it. Maybe the mayor/city council need a nudge. I'd get them involved, especially since Omaha hands out TIF deferments like candy--seems to be a no-brainer. If I were living there full time, I'd start a petition drive to encourage the city's politicos to pursue this.

That’s an idea. You know, since the HDR Downtown HQ’s fiasco, I have questioned the visionary leadership of the mayors office.. The current regime seems to be a more “reactive” bunch.. Rather than one which encourages vision and proactive action (Think the mayors office when Hal Daub was Mayor).. I don’t have a ton of confidence in the mayors office at present. Now if they can help shepherd the current Lanoha highrise proposal to reality, I may change my tune..

One good thing is, Omaha has an excellent Chamber of Commerce and with their consistent, proactive drive to attract new tech businesses and employees to the metro, many of these job opportunities will be drawn to the downtown core; which further bolsters the already growing population. It’s getting to the point where it’s a questionable business decision not to locate a grocer near the area where Kiewit is building...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

Omahacritic · Post by **Omahacritic** » Mon Aug 05, 2019 3:42 am

I found the 2030 Urban Planning ... for goals by 2030.

200 page document. That plan envisioned 30,000 sq ft grocer store around 17th and Cuming and another by the Post Office on South 13.
Also envisioned lots of other fancy stuff.

Of course, the study was conducted in 2009. Amazon was still a book store back then. No updates since, that I can find.

PWL73316 · Post by **PWL73316** » Thu Aug 08, 2019 5:15 am

Omahacritic wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 4:02 am
The high margin aspects of the business are liquor and tobacco. But those products might not attract the right crowd at a North Downtown location.

Again, there are 3,000 Creighton students basically next door who currently pay higher prices at gas stations, or drive a lot further out to get liquor. A Hyvee with the full liquor store like the one at Peony Park would print money.

VeloRider · Post by **VeloRider** » Sat Aug 10, 2019 4:37 am

How many residents live in Downtown KC; 20 some thousand? I don't believe they have a grocery store yet.
Downtown Minneapolis has always had a Target grocery, but it seems like when they reached the 35,000 mark, then came Whole Foods, two Lunds & Bylerys (the best grocery store in the nation BTW). Now that there are about 50,000 residents, a Trader Joes has opened and I think Aldi is coming soon (barff).

Rusker · Post by **Rusker** » Sat Aug 10, 2019 4:38 pm

They actually have a Cosentino’s in downtown KC. I shopped there myself and it was a full service grocery store as far as I could tell.

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Sat Aug 10, 2019 6:38 pm

The thing is, since the entire Plan for North Downtown was hatched back in the late 1990’s/early 2000’s, the goal has always been for the area to become a mixed used area where residents and employees alike can enjoy living in self-sustainable neighborhood. This idea has always been for consistent day and evening foot level traffic..

And with the residential developments popping up, along with major employers like Kiewit moving their HQ’s building in the area, the time is right- NOW - for a full service grocery store to serve not only North Downtown, but the entire downtown core area..

It is a bit mystifying that a grocer hasn’t stepped up to the plate as of yet. But as I’ve stated numerous times in this thread, the population base it there to support a store. Let’s hope that sometime within the next 12-24 months, somebody pulls the trigger...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

Busguy2010 · Post by **Busguy2010** » Sat Aug 10, 2019 9:48 pm

Omaha Cowboy wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2019 6:38 pm The thing is, since the entire Plan for North Downtown was hatched back in the late 1990’s/early 2000’s, the goal has always been for the area to become a mixed used area where residents and employees alike can enjoy living in self-sustainable neighborhood. This idea has always been for consistent day and evening foot level traffic..

And with the residential developments popping up, along with major employers like Kiewit moving their HQ’s building in the area, the time is right- NOW - for a full service grocery store to serve not only North Downtown, but the entire downtown core area..

It is a bit mystifying that a grocer hasn’t stepped up to the plate as of yet. But as I’ve stated numerous times in this thread, the population base it there to support a store. Let’s hope that sometime within the next 12-24 months, somebody pulls the trigger...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

I could guarantee if we had the current proposed streetcar line right now, there would be a major grocer or two situated anywhere along Webster, 10th, or Farnam. Personally, I think there isn't quite enough residential population in North Downtown alone to support a North Downtown grocer. Downtown as a whole, absolutely there is. The streetcar would connect everybody else that lives along pretty much anywhere around downtown with a North Downtown grocer. The land up there is ripe for it. I also would like to see a grocer somewhere around the core in an existing building. A HyVee in the ground level of Brandeis building would be a potential example. Not that that's realistic.

Omahacritic · Post by **Omahacritic** » Sun Aug 11, 2019 3:51 am

Busguy2010 wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2019 9:48 pm
Omaha Cowboy wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2019 6:38 pm The thing is, since the entire Plan for North Downtown was hatched back in the late 1990’s/early 2000’s, the goal has always been for the area to become a mixed used area where residents and employees alike can enjoy living in self-sustainable neighborhood. This idea has always been for consistent day and evening foot level traffic..

And with the residential developments popping up, along with major employers like Kiewit moving their HQ’s building in the area, the time is right- NOW - for a full service grocery store to serve not only North Downtown, but the entire downtown core area..

It is a bit mystifying that a grocer hasn’t stepped up to the plate as of yet. But as I’ve stated numerous times in this thread, the population base it there to support a store. Let’s hope that sometime within the next 12-24 months, somebody pulls the trigger...

Ciao..LiO...Peace
I could guarantee if we had the current proposed streetcar line right now, there would be a major grocer or two situated anywhere along Webster, 10th, or Farnam. Personally, I think there isn't quite enough residential population in North Downtown alone to support a North Downtown grocer. Downtown as a whole, absolutely there is. The streetcar would connect everybody else that lives along pretty much anywhere around downtown with a North Downtown grocer. The land up there is ripe for it. I also would like to see a grocer somewhere around the core in an existing building. A HyVee in the ground level of Brandeis building would be a potential example. Not that that's realistic.

Hang around the back (loading dock) of a bigger grocery store. Then you can come up with ideas on where to put a large grocery store.

A note about population counts. Most downtown residents are childless households. Meaning, average shopping cart will be smaller.

Busguy2010 · Post by **Busguy2010** » Sun Aug 11, 2019 4:41 am

Omahacritic wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2019 3:51 am Hang around the back (loading dock) of a bigger grocery store. Then you can come up with ideas on where to put a large grocery store.

I'm aware. This is why you need develop-able land, which is currently available (but not really abundant anymore) in North Downtown. If a standalone (I'm assuming this is the only way possible in Omaha) grocer were to happen around Downtown, it needs to happen soon, or the desirable land will be taken. There's plenty of develop-able land in North Downtown and along Farnam, but they are continually and increasingly being spoken for.

Beyond that, it would be up to a developer of a project with the intent of finding a grocer to open in their building, and I think that decreases the likelyhood of a "regular grocer" locating downtown.

I would totally welcome a regular standalone grocer in North Downtown. I even look at the HyVee on Broadway and would cut and paste it somewhere in or around Downtown. That building does a good job of fitting a major grocer into a small area. Also see Saddle Creek Walmart. Both do a good job of fitting in a tight environment, despite their parking lots.

Omahacritic · Post by **Omahacritic** » Sun Aug 11, 2019 4:12 pm

Bus guy, we are in agreement. I was mostly talking about ideas to place between the 480 and Jones St.

I kind of wonder, couldn’t they place part of a store under the 480 bridge. It’s a way to stretch the build-able land.

Big E · Post by **Big E** » Mon Aug 12, 2019 6:06 am

Between HyVee Aisles, Prime Now, Wohlner's @ MTC and Cubbies on 13th...

... I can not even begin to imagine why a grocer would attempt to put a store anywhere closer to downtown Omaha than where they might currently have one.

Cermak · Post by **Cermak** » Mon Aug 12, 2019 12:46 pm

Agreed, Omaha already has grocery stores in the general vicinity of downtown. I’m not sure if we even need a large HyVee or Walmart downtown. These smaller stores are fine, In my opinion. I like Cubbies in the Old Market, I think it’s very cool and would most certainly close if HyVee put a store downtown.

ScrattyB · Post by **ScrattyB** » Mon Aug 12, 2019 2:48 pm

VeloRider wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2019 4:37 am How many residents live in Downtown KC; 20 some thousand? I don't believe they have a grocery store yet.

What? There are several. I guess it depends on what you consider to be "downtown Kansas City".

Greg S · Post by **Greg S** » Mon Aug 12, 2019 3:16 pm

ScrattyB wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2019 2:48 pm
VeloRider wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2019 4:37 am How many residents live in Downtown KC; 20 some thousand? I don't believe they have a grocery store yet.
What? There are several. I guess it depends on what you consider to be "downtown Kansas City".

I know of and use Consentino's in DT KC. What other true grocery stores are in downtown?

Greg

ScrattyB · Post by **ScrattyB** » Mon Aug 12, 2019 6:25 pm

Greg S wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2019 3:16 pm I know of and use Consentino's in DT KC. What other true grocery stores are in downtown?

Again, it depends on your definition of downtown,
There's the farmers market (yeah, I know, I know)
Chinatown Food Market. I usually go here everytime I'm in KC. Great selection. (Asian Market on Cass can't be depended on sometimes, so I sometimes have to stock up on certain items in KC)
Quality Hill if you're in a pinch
Aldi at 8th and MLK
Snyder's is just a bit down the road
There's the Burmese stores, but I've never been to them because Chinatown Market has everything I need.

Usual spot is Costco on Linwood, which is one mile from downtown.

Greg S · Post by **Greg S** » Mon Aug 12, 2019 6:53 pm

ScrattyB wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2019 6:25 pm
Greg S wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2019 3:16 pm I know of and use Consentino's in DT KC. What other true grocery stores are in downtown?
Again, it depends on your definition of downtown,
There's the farmers market (yeah, I know, I know)
Chinatown Food Market. I usually go here everytime I'm in KC. Great selection. (Asian Market on Cass can't be depended on sometimes, so I sometimes have to stock up on certain items in KC)
Quality Hill if you're in a pinch
Aldi at 8th and MLK
Snyder's is just a bit down the road
There's the Burmese stores, but I've never been to them because Chinatown Market has everything I need.

Usual spot is Costco on Linwood, which is one mile from downtown.

If you haven't been, I highly recommend Cosentino's. Prices are decent, has pretty much everything, plus their grab n go along cooked food in their cafe are outstanding.

Greg

ScrattyB · Post by **ScrattyB** » Mon Aug 12, 2019 7:16 pm

Greg S wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2019 6:53 pm If you haven't been, I highly recommend Cosentino's. Prices are decent, has pretty much everything, plus their grab n go along cooked food in their cafe are outstanding.

Went there once. If you haven't been, I definitely recommend checking out the urban HyVee in Des Moines. It's similar to Cosentino's.

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Tue Aug 13, 2019 3:49 am

Well friends, like I’ve posted before, the actual vision for what North Downtown was/is supposed to become- is for a sustainable mixed use work and residential community with foot level traffic consistent day into night.. The progression toward this is currently happening and a grocery store location is a natural part if that progression. Cubbies will have to worry about Cubbies.. and that should be little concern to a serious developer, who is committed to the North Downtown vision, to attract a grocer into the area..

It doesn’t have to be a HyVee or a Walmart.. But I’d be very happy with a Consentino’s type store in North Downtown...

Ciao..LiO...Peace