Right. Once those come out about 7 weeks from now, you should have all the data to make those tables.. And I know how time consuming this is, so don’t feel obligated to do it..only do it if you have the time and your life schedule permitsHR Paperstacks wrote: Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:19 pm Looks like the city data came out on May 23rd last year.
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Fantastic. Look forward to itHR Paperstacks wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:57 pm Looks like the datasets are there now and I'm a couple weeks late. It's getting a little late tonight, but I'll look into putting it together in the next few days.
... They really do fluctuate. It’ll be interesting to see the numbers once we get the official 2020 Census numbers this coming April. I know my household was counted. I hope for the Omaha metro..and the rest of Nebraska, we continue to have a higher Census response rate.. If the Iowa side of the metro would just grow a bit, that’d be great, lol..HR Paperstacks wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 1:06 am I noticed that all the estimates seem to fluctuate from year to year. None of the numbers for 2011-2018 match with what was reported last year. Updating the previous year's doesn't really surprise me, but 2011 still being revised does.
... Tanks for the data tables HR!Omaha Cowboy wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 9:27 amThey really do fluctuate. It’ll be interesting to see the numbers once we get the official 2020 Census numbers this coming April. I know my household was counted. I hope for the Omaha metro..and the rest of Nebraska, we continue to have a higher Census response rate.. If the Iowa side of the metro would just grow a bit, that’d be great, lol..HR Paperstacks wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 1:06 am I noticed that all the estimates seem to fluctuate from year to year. None of the numbers for 2011-2018 match with what was reported last year. Updating the previous year's doesn't really surprise me, but 2011 still being revised does.
Thank you very much, as always, for the data tables and the work you put in to present them. They’re great and extremely useful
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Omaha Cowboy wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 9:27 amThank you very much, as always, for the data tables and the work you put in to present them. They’re great and extremely useful
You're welcome!
That is the $64k question.. The Iowa side of the Omaha metro, population growth wise, has been stagnant since at least 1990. So much to unpack. But Iowa is a strange bird as it relates to growth- the central part of the state has robust growth, eastern Iowa slow to moderate, but western Iowa is basically nil.. For the stigma it has, unfairly imo, Council Bluffs is a nice small city and has some cool entertainment districts. There is no reason CB and Pottawattamie County doesn’t grow..ita wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 10:44 amTanks for the data tables HR!Omaha Cowboy wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 9:27 amThey really do fluctuate. It’ll be interesting to see the numbers once we get the official 2020 Census numbers this coming April. I know my household was counted. I hope for the Omaha metro..and the rest of Nebraska, we continue to have a higher Census response rate.. If the Iowa side of the metro would just grow a bit, that’d be great, lol..HR Paperstacks wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 1:06 am I noticed that all the estimates seem to fluctuate from year to year. None of the numbers for 2011-2018 match with what was reported last year. Updating the previous year's doesn't really surprise me, but 2011 still being revised does.
Thank you very much, as always, for the data tables and the work you put in to present them. They’re great and extremely useful
Ciao..LiO...Peace
I wonder why Iowa side has suffered from lack of growth this decade. I know many people who have lived here long enough have a stigma against the Iowa side of the Metro, but what about people who migrate here? Does that attribute to the lack or growth? I don't understand it. The Iowa side has cheaper real estate, housing, decent services, pretty locales. What gives? I think I have asked this every year since I joined, but it continues to confound me why the Iowa side can't get growing, at all.
Very disappointing. The Iowa side, especially CB and Pottawattamie County, are much cooler and nicer than they're given credit for. And both the city/county *should* be growing. At at least a slightly moderate rate...HR Paperstacks wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 2:53 pm It is disappointing that the Iowa side so stagnant. I wish CB could see more growth.
Any chance Iowa's numbers are underestimated by the Census Bureau? I know certain neighborhoods were hit hard by flooding and such, but I do feel like over the last decade, Council Bluffs has had some residential developments and commercial investment. It's hard for me to believe they suffered negative growth this last decade.Omaha Cowboy wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 4:15 pmVery disappointing. The Iowa side, especially CB and Pottawattamie County, are much cooler and nicer than they're given credit for. And both the city/county *should* be growing. At at least a slightly moderate rate...HR Paperstacks wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 2:53 pm It is disappointing that the Iowa side so stagnant. I wish CB could see more growth.
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I’ve long felt this, especially as it relates to the Omaha MSA estimates. For both the 2000 and 2010 official Census counts, the Omaha Metro grew more robustly than the annual estimates leading up to the official decade count. I expect to see the same for 2020..and yes, that would include the 3 Iowa counties that make up the 8 county Omaha MSA. What I think is, both Mills and Harrison counties will remain stagnate or maybe slightly lose or gain population.. but Pottawattamie County I would expect to see more of a gain than loss..Maybe a 2 to 3 % gain since 2010..and I think that’s a pretty realistic expectation. We know Douglas and Sarpy counties drive the metro growth. It’d be nice to see the other 6 (7 if you include Dodge county for Omaha’s CSA) at least hold serve and continue to score some small to moderate population gains over the decade..Harrison County is especially bleeding population..if we believe the estimates to be an accurate reflection, they’ve lost nearly 6% population since 2010. That hurts and is unhealthy..ita wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 5:08 pmAny chance Iowa's numbers are underestimated by the Census Bureau? I know certain neighborhoods were hit hard by flooding and such, but I do feel like over the last decade, Council Bluffs has had some residential developments and commercial investment. It's hard for me to believe they suffered negative growth this last decade.Omaha Cowboy wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 4:15 pmVery disappointing. The Iowa side, especially CB and Pottawattamie County, are much cooler and nicer than they're given credit for. And both the city/county *should* be growing. At at least a slightly moderate rate...HR Paperstacks wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 2:53 pm It is disappointing that the Iowa side so stagnant. I wish CB could see more growth.
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Well, I know when the counting started, Nebraska was among the states with the highest response rate for the mail in response.. I know my household was counted..ricko wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 10:53 pm The Census Bureau is reporting that the mail-in response/participation has been the worst in recent history. This means that Census foot-soldiers will be knocking on your door if you haven't responded yet. It's important to be counted for a number of reasons, probably the most important of which has to do with federal grant money---population determines the size of the grants, Private marketing companies also use the data to determine things like store locations, etc.. I don't think the CSA numbers will top a million this year, which is too bad because there are companies that use that number as a benchmark (hotel chains, retail stores, restaurants, etc.)---so, for example, a store like REI, Brooks Brothers, or a hotel chain like Intercontinental will automatically dismiss Omaha for a location because their algorithm told them to take a pass.
Apportionment has always counted all people, this isn't a new thing. It has never just considered voting eligible populations. Nebraska is in zero danger of losing a seat, and California is on track to lose a seat this census. Furthermore, for purposes of enumeration, the census doesn't include a question about immigration status anyway, so it would be almost impossible to apply.bigredmed1 wrote: Mon Aug 03, 2020 12:38 pm Why should sanctuary states get more electoral representation because they have more illegal immigration? This means that we get less representation. That means that rest of Nebraska will maybe get two. We might well lose a seat if the California Sanctuary scam is successful. Sound fair to you?
Federalist Paper 54 on who should count in the census.The qualifications on which the right of suffrage depend are not, perhaps, the same in any two States. In some of the States the difference is very material.
In every State, a certain proportion of inhabitants are deprived of this right by the constitution of the State, who will be included in the census by which the federal Constitution apportions the representatives. In this point of view the Southern States might retort the complaint, by insisting that the principle laid down by the convention required that no regard should be had to the policy of particular States towards their own inhabitants; and consequently, that the slaves, as inhabitants, should have been admitted into the census according to their full number, in like manner with other inhabitants, who, by the policy of other States, are not admitted to all the rights of citizens.
...haha, now that will be a sight to see.Omaha Cowboy wrote: Mon Aug 10, 2020 10:04 pm I’ll be turning cartwheels when the state hits the 2 million
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Definitely will.. Even more of a sight- you join me and we can pull them off in tandemguy4omaha wrote: Sun Aug 16, 2020 1:01 amhaha, now that will be a sight to see.Omaha Cowboy wrote: Mon Aug 10, 2020 10:04 pm I’ll be turning cartwheels when the state hits the 2 million
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... We may need 2 of those..
... The eyeball test will reveal the same thing..bigredmed1 wrote: Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:29 am Cowboy, I didn't need census data to tell me that. I am a pediatric hematologist and the number of kids with Hgb E has gone way up since the early 2000's. Lots more Asian people in Omaha than before.
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