New Kiewit HQ

guy4omaha · Post by **guy4omaha** » Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:02 pm

Omaha Cowboy wrote: Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:04 pm
Cermak wrote: Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:19 pm
North Downtown’s first skywalk. I know skywalks never caught on in Omaha like they did in Minneapolis or Des Moines. But at least North DT can now say they have at least one, must say it looks nice! Especially when you consider what this neighborhood looked like 15-20 years ago.
Maybe this skywalk will start a North Downtown trend, lol..

It’s not anything earth shattering, but I like it too...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

Given that north DT is level terrain with little to no change in elevation over several blocks, a trend toward skywalks may be more feasible here.

Louie · Post by **Louie** » Sat Jul 11, 2020 9:19 am

Stayed at the Marriott last night, and got a great view of Kiewit and North DT. From this angle its really nice looking imo. Too bad the pic doesn’t do it justice.

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Sat Jul 11, 2020 8:38 pm

Louie wrote: Sat Jul 11, 2020 9:19 am Stayed at the Marriott last night, and got a great view of Kiewit and North DT. From this angle its really nice looking imo. Too bad the pic doesn’t do it justice.

Nice pic. Thanks for posting

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Ciao..LiO...Peace

skinzfan23 · Post by **skinzfan23** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 8:49 am

This building looks really nice at night for north downtown when driving by on 480.

Busguy2010 · Post by **Busguy2010** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:08 am

skinzfan23 wrote: Mon Jul 13, 2020 8:49 am This building looks really nice at night for north downtown when driving by on 480.

As bad as that road might be for Downtown, it sure does give you a nice view of the city.

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:25 am

Busguy2010 wrote: Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:08 am
skinzfan23 wrote: Mon Jul 13, 2020 8:49 am This building looks really nice at night for north downtown when driving by on 480.
As bad as that road might be for Downtown, it sure does give you a nice view of the city.

Agreed...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

Cermak · Post by **Cermak** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:20 pm

Agree, always enjoy the view on that road. Unfortunately I don’t really get on it very much. DT Omaha always looks a little bigger from north 480.

Greg S · Post by **Greg S** » Tue Jul 14, 2020 8:52 am

skinzfan23 wrote: Mon Jul 13, 2020 8:49 am This building looks really nice at night for north downtown when driving by on 480.

I was driving there recently and thought the exact same thing.

I know Kiewit has a second building down there for training, anyone have a pic of it?

Greg

Omahacritic · Post by **Omahacritic** » Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:25 pm

Omaha Cowboy wrote: Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:25 am
Busguy2010 wrote: Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:08 am
skinzfan23 wrote: Mon Jul 13, 2020 8:49 am This building looks really nice at night for north downtown when driving by on 480.
As bad as that road might be for Downtown, it sure does give you a nice view of the city.
Agreed...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

Rectangles.

You will think you hit Boystown already.

skinzfan23 · Post by **skinzfan23** » Wed Jul 15, 2020 9:29 am

Greg S wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 8:52 am
skinzfan23 wrote: Mon Jul 13, 2020 8:49 am This building looks really nice at night for north downtown when driving by on 480.
I was driving there recently and thought the exact same thing.

I know Kiewit has a second building down there for training, anyone have a pic of it?

Greg

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Wed Jul 15, 2020 3:52 pm

skinzfan23 wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 9:29 am
Greg S wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 8:52 am
skinzfan23 wrote: Mon Jul 13, 2020 8:49 am This building looks really nice at night for north downtown when driving by on 480.
I was driving there recently and thought the exact same thing.

I know Kiewit has a second building down there for training, anyone have a pic of it?

Greg

Nice find

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Ciao..LiO...Peace

Omahacritic · Post by **Omahacritic** » Wed Jul 15, 2020 10:21 pm

What did you all think the “sky bridge” was? It simply connects the two Kiewit buildings.

Nothing to see here folks, move along.

Greg S · Post by **Greg S** » Thu Jul 16, 2020 8:32 am

Omahacritic wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 10:21 pm What did you all think the “sky bridge” was? It simply connects the two Kiewit buildings.

Nothing to see here folks, move along.

Honestly thought it was connecting parking to the building. Had not been by yet to see.

Greg S · Post by **Greg S** » Thu Jul 16, 2020 8:33 am

skinzfan23 wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 9:29 am
Greg S wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 8:52 am
skinzfan23 wrote: Mon Jul 13, 2020 8:49 am This building looks really nice at night for north downtown when driving by on 480.
I was driving there recently and thought the exact same thing.

I know Kiewit has a second building down there for training, anyone have a pic of it?

Greg

Thanks for posting, this looks nice. Will definitely swing by next time I am down there.

Omahacritic · Post by **Omahacritic** » Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:33 pm

Greg S wrote: Thu Jul 16, 2020 8:32 am
Omahacritic wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 10:21 pm What did you all think the “sky bridge” was? It simply connects the two Kiewit buildings.

Nothing to see here folks, move along.
Honestly thought it was connecting parking to the building. Had not been by yet to see.

Nope. Parking butts up to south side of main structure. The parking structure seems oversized ... 3-4 stories tall and over a block long. I suppose it’s to be shared with whatever structure is put on Cuming St and will be bookended on North and South.

Post by **Brad** » Sun Aug 23, 2020 9:59 pm

The west side of the building has an optical illusion that makes it look like a 4 story building with the big windows.

Cermak · Post by **Cermak** » Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:28 pm

The west and north sides of the building is the parts I’m having a hard time getting used to. The rest of the building I think looks good. This building looks the best from I-480 when driving through the northside of DT in my opinion. I was just DT today for the first time in about a month. I was DT around 5pm, it still seems a little quiet and less traffic than pre-pandemic. Also wondering when the plywood will come down off the windows, it looks bad. Like we are waiting for the next riot or something.

Post by **Brad** » Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:08 am

Here is a photo I took last weekend from our room on the 5th Floor of the Cambria Hotel in North Downtown.

Linkin5 · Post by **Linkin5** » Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:22 am

Great pic Brad, the building is definitely growing on me.

ita · Post by **ita** » Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:31 am

That picture is great. I love the lighting and reflection off the windows. I wonder how they approach the design of what is goes up west of the HQ and the office building south of the HQ. I assume if it's speculative building, they go with a more generic glass box office building?

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:01 am

Brad wrote: Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:08 am Here is a photo I took last weekend from our room on the 5th Floor of the Cambria Hotel in North Downtown.

Despite the silly and sometimes petty criticisms this building received (see various posts here from 2020, lol).. This is a great development and nice, important addition to North Downtown. Much appreciated is Kiewit’s commitment to our downtown core area..

Great pic as always Brad

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Ciao..LiO...Peace

Linkin5 · Post by **Linkin5** » Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:34 am

Omaha Cowboy wrote: Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:01 am
Brad wrote: Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:08 am Here is a photo I took last weekend from our room on the 5th Floor of the Cambria Hotel in North Downtown.

Despite the silly and sometimes petty criticisms this building received (see various posts here from 2020, lol).. This is a great development and nice, important addition to North Downtown. Much appreciated is Kiewit’s commitment to our downtown core area..

Great pic as always Brad ...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

I still contend the lack of ground retail is a pretty legitimate complaint of this building and parking garage.

buildomaha · Post by **buildomaha** » Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:37 am

Linkin5 wrote: Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:34 am
Omaha Cowboy wrote: Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:01 am
Brad wrote: Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:08 am Here is a photo I took last weekend from our room on the 5th Floor of the Cambria Hotel in North Downtown.

Despite the silly and sometimes petty criticisms this building received (see various posts here from 2020, lol).. This is a great development and nice, important addition to North Downtown. Much appreciated is Kiewit’s commitment to our downtown core area..

Great pic as always Brad ...

Ciao..LiO...Peace
I still contend the lack of ground retail is a pretty legitimate complaint of this building and parking garage.

Although it would be many years until that time, at least (hopefully) the parking garage could be pretty easily dismantled for infill.

Louie · Post by **Louie** » Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:54 am

I feel like this project is better than it was..but could have been better than that.

Busguy2010 · Post by **Busguy2010** » Tue Apr 20, 2021 12:00 pm

I really like the warehouse look to this building. I appreciate that they played off the surrounding vibe of the existing buildings.

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Tue Apr 20, 2021 12:39 pm

Busguy2010 wrote: Tue Apr 20, 2021 12:00 pm I really like the warehouse look to this building. I appreciate that they played off the surrounding vibe of the existing buildings.

Agreed. It’s not perfect. But I think it blends in well with the area...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Tue Apr 20, 2021 12:45 pm

buildomaha wrote: Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:37 am
Linkin5 wrote: Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:34 am
Omaha Cowboy wrote: Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:01 am
Brad wrote: Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:08 am Here is a photo I took last weekend from our room on the 5th Floor of the Cambria Hotel in North Downtown.

Despite the silly and sometimes petty criticisms this building received (see various posts here from 2020, lol).. This is a great development and nice, important addition to North Downtown. Much appreciated is Kiewit’s commitment to our downtown core area..

Great pic as always Brad ...

Ciao..LiO...Peace
I still contend the lack of ground retail is a pretty legitimate complaint of this building and parking garage.
Although it would be many years until that time, at least (hopefully) the parking garage could be pretty easily dismantled for infill.

I don’t disagree. The building is not perfect..and I think what you’re bringing up is a legit short coming and not petty..

I was referring more to the “conceptual image” criticisms of the HQ’s building..Of which I was bantering back and forth with a certain poster here for most of 2020, lol...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

Busguy2010 · Post by **Busguy2010** » Tue Apr 20, 2021 3:55 pm

I agree that it would be better for Omaha if it had ground level retail bays, but obviously I see that Kiewit wasn't interested in that venture. I don't think something like that should be required. If ground level retail works for the owner/operator/developer then that is all the better, but if it doesn't work for them, then I will accept it. This building is better here than there.

Post by **Brad** » Tue Apr 20, 2021 8:26 pm

Thanks for all the kind words on the photo.

As far as ground level retail. If that area gets crazy in 10 years, I'm sure they can remodel the ground floor to accommodate some retail. That said, I don't see growth that way for a while. I see Lot B going before there is demand out this way.

nebport5 · Post by **nebport5** » Tue Apr 20, 2021 8:33 pm

Yes, great shot as usual Brad. Just curious if you have a wider shot of the HQ in the context of North Downtown or the overall DT skyline?

Post by **Brad** » Tue Apr 20, 2021 8:46 pm

nebport5 wrote: Tue Apr 20, 2021 8:33 pm Yes, great shot as usual Brad. Just curious if you have a wider shot of the HQ in the context of North Downtown or the overall DT skyline?

Here you go. Its not the best. Shooting through a window is never ideal. the right side of the photo is pretty bad.

2X4A8778.jpg

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Tue Apr 20, 2021 8:59 pm

Brad wrote: Tue Apr 20, 2021 8:46 pm
nebport5 wrote: Tue Apr 20, 2021 8:33 pm Yes, great shot as usual Brad. Just curious if you have a wider shot of the HQ in the context of North Downtown or the overall DT skyline?
Here you go. Its not the best. Shooting through a window is never ideal. the right side of the photo is pretty bad.

That’s a great shot Brad..

What I like, is that it shows what North Downtown is evolving into in the foreground..as it relates to the traditional central business district downtown core..

And it’s impressive overall...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

skinzfan23 · Post by **skinzfan23** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 8:24 am

That is a nice, different angle of Omaha.

MadMartin8 · Post by **MadMartin8** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 11:33 am

Brad wrote: Tue Apr 20, 2021 8:46 pm
nebport5 wrote: Tue Apr 20, 2021 8:33 pm Yes, great shot as usual Brad. Just curious if you have a wider shot of the HQ in the context of North Downtown or the overall DT skyline?
Here you go. Its not the best. Shooting through a window is never ideal. the right side of the photo is pretty bad.

2X4A8778.jpg

I honestly didn't know how well it was going to turn out, but I absolutely love the brown brick coupled with all the glass. It fits very well with the surrounding area. The parking garage component is what it is (in an ideal world maybe it would have been the bottom of the building or something), but overall I like it.

nebport5 · Post by **nebport5** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 8:11 pm

Omaha Cowboy wrote: Tue Apr 20, 2021 8:59 pm
Brad wrote: Tue Apr 20, 2021 8:46 pm
nebport5 wrote: Tue Apr 20, 2021 8:33 pm Yes, great shot as usual Brad. Just curious if you have a wider shot of the HQ in the context of North Downtown or the overall DT skyline?
Here you go. Its not the best. Shooting through a window is never ideal. the right side of the photo is pretty bad.
That’s a great shot Brad..

What I like, is that it shows what North Downtown is evolving into in the foreground..as it relates to the traditional central business district downtown core..

And it’s impressive overall...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

Yes. The building has certainly grown on me and I don't think it's just because of Brad's photography(thanks for the shot). It seems to have sizable presence in North Downtown and provide some infill. I wonder if it has any impact on the night skyline from the right angle? While it may still be a disappointment for the tower envy folk(h.o.c. club) it certainly fits well within the confines and visually helps bridge the CBD with North Downtown. As for ground level retail? Yeah in a perfect world but not in this current real world where Slowdown and the Nines buildings have both struggled with ground level retail well before co-vid. Post co-vid, can anyone on this board recall a worse year for retail(excluding online) than the last?

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 8:35 pm

nebport5 wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 8:11 pm
Omaha Cowboy wrote: Tue Apr 20, 2021 8:59 pm
Brad wrote: Tue Apr 20, 2021 8:46 pm
nebport5 wrote: Tue Apr 20, 2021 8:33 pm Yes, great shot as usual Brad. Just curious if you have a wider shot of the HQ in the context of North Downtown or the overall DT skyline?
Here you go. Its not the best. Shooting through a window is never ideal. the right side of the photo is pretty bad.
That’s a great shot Brad..

What I like, is that it shows what North Downtown is evolving into in the foreground..as it relates to the traditional central business district downtown core..

And it’s impressive overall...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

Yes. The building has certainly grown on me and I don't think it's just because of Brad's photography(thanks for the shot). It seems to have sizable presence in North Downtown and provide some infill. I wonder if it has any impact on the night skyline from the right angle? While it may still be a disappointment for the tower envy folk(h.o.c. club) it certainly fits well within the confines and visually helps bridge the CBD with North Downtown. As for ground level retail? Yeah in a perfect world but not in this current real world where Slowdown and the Nines buildings have both struggled with ground level retail well before co-vid. Post co-vid, can anyone on this board recall a worse year for retail(excluding online) than the last?

I believe you’re spot on with this.. And being a charter member of the height obsessed club, I never thought a significant Kiewit highrise would have been an appropriate fit for this area..but I’ve always believed (and now more than ever) this HQ building is a fantastic fit for blending in with the north downtown urban mosaic..

Sure, I’d like to see retail ground level..but I think, as Brad intimated, if demand arises for it as the area continues to grow and evolve, we may see it happen within the next several years..

But right now, at present, I give this HQ’s a huge thumbs up

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Ciao..LiO...Peace

Athomsfere · Post by **Athomsfere** » Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:53 am

nebport5 wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 8:11 pm
Yes. The building has certainly grown on me and I don't think it's just because of Brad's photography(thanks for the shot). It seems to have sizable presence in North Downtown and provide some infill. I wonder if it has any impact on the night skyline from the right angle?

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I can say for sure, from 480 and the top of the Wire apartments, it has an impact.

So although a little more height would have been great, it's also doing a fine job filling in that area.

ita · Post by **ita** » Thu Apr 22, 2021 2:10 pm

Athomsfere wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:53 am
nebport5 wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 8:11 pm
Yes. The building has certainly grown on me and I don't think it's just because of Brad's photography(thanks for the shot). It seems to have sizable presence in North Downtown and provide some infill. I wonder if it has any impact on the night skyline from the right angle?

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I can say for sure, from 480 and the top of the Wire apartments, it has an impact.

So although a little more height would have been great, it's also doing a fine job filling in that area.

Agreed; I like its impact from 480. I am looking forward to seeing a few more 5-6 story buildings in the district and how it improves the density in North Downtown. Now if we could only get Lot B developed...

Stan · Post by **Stan** » Wed Apr 28, 2021 9:47 am

The views from inside are pretty good too.