Seriously, that building is beautiful and the bar is really popular. What a |expletive| waste if it goes.skinzfan23 wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 1:04 pm Please don't tell me that they are planning on tearing down 4524 Farnam. That is a beautiful building that was built in 1900 according to the assessor's page.
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Not for 10 years at least according to a storyskinzfan23 wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 1:04 pm Please don't tell me that they are planning on tearing down 4524 Farnam. That is a beautiful building that was built in 1900 according to the assessor's page.
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Oh no, please don't hurt Rathskeller!skinzfan23 wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 1:04 pm Please don't tell me that they are planning on tearing down 4524 Farnam. That is a beautiful building that was built in 1900 according to the assessor's page.
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So I could be wrong here, but they plan to keep the crappy old shop buildings from across the street but demolish this building?
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Across the street where? Right across the street is just a parking lot FWICR.skinzfan23 wrote: Fri Apr 30, 2021 9:39 am So I could be wrong here, but they plan to keep the crappy old shop buildings from across the street but demolish this building?
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Skinz, are you talking about the old steel factory? We don't know that they are razing the Bier House. Based on previously posted maps of the future development of UNMC's Innovation Hub and NEXT Project, this portion of the neighborhood was not part of the plan. Maybe they are securing that property for some other purpose. Based on the county site, the owner of the Rathskeller, 4524 FARNAM LLC, also owns the surface parking lot across the street of that establishment to the west. If they are building a massive parking garage and have alternatives to getting to the campus, UNMC may want to develop that surface parking lot, or have it ready for development by a third party.Athomsfere wrote: Mon May 03, 2021 10:05 amAcross the street where? Right across the street is just a parking lot FWICR.skinzfan23 wrote: Fri Apr 30, 2021 9:39 am So I could be wrong here, but they plan to keep the crappy old shop buildings from across the street but demolish this building?
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Formal public announcement re:funding for NExT and status as a national center should be coming today
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Nice, hopefully this is moving forward as planned with the federal funding.bones wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 12:06 pm Formal public announcement re:funding for NExT and status as a national center should be coming today
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UNMC's multibillion-dollar Project NExT reaches 'key milestone'
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Omaha has been selected as one of five pilot sites in the U.S. tasked with developing a federal program to bolster the nation's disaster response capacity.
The move marks a key step for local plans to develop a multibillion-dollar, all-hazards response facility in the city.

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From the story:
Pretty good company to be with.The four other sites for the program, which will be led by the U.S. Defense Department in coordination with the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, are Washington, D.C.; San Antonio, Texas; Sacramento, California; and Denver, Colorado.
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The city selections don't make a ton of sense to me:skinzfan23 wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 12:38 pm From the story:Pretty good company to be with.The four other sites for the program, which will be led by the U.S. Defense Department in coordination with the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, are Washington, D.C.; San Antonio, Texas; Sacramento, California; and Denver, Colorado.
San Antonion, Omaha: Armed Services?
DC: ?? Politicians? Maybe Boston would have been better out east?
Sacremento: I would almost expect San Diego more
Denver: Really close to Omaha...
Or maybe being a pilot program, they had specifically targeted different demographics?
Regardless of the selection choices, and motivation for each. Great news, even if there isn't any real news here.
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Wait, what?Brad wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 12:34 pm UNMC's multibillion-dollar Project NExT reaches 'key milestone'
https://omaha.com/lifestyles/health-med ... -top-story
Omaha has been selected as one of five pilot sites in the U.S. tasked with developing a federal program to bolster the nation's disaster response capacity.
The move marks a key step for local plans to develop a multibillion-dollar, all-hazards response facility in the city.
That is a huge range in cost estimate. So, $2.6 billion is the floor for the NEXT project? That's pretty crazy.The cost of Project NExT has been estimated at $2.6 billion, but Gold has said the number could be as high as $4.3 billion.
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UNMC in 2040:ita wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 1:04 pmWait, what?Brad wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 12:34 pm UNMC's multibillion-dollar Project NExT reaches 'key milestone'
https://omaha.com/lifestyles/health-med ... -top-story
Omaha has been selected as one of five pilot sites in the U.S. tasked with developing a federal program to bolster the nation's disaster response capacity.
The move marks a key step for local plans to develop a multibillion-dollar, all-hazards response facility in the city.
That is a huge range in cost estimate. So, $2.6 billion is the floor for the NEXT project? That's pretty crazy.The cost of Project NExT has been estimated at $2.6 billion, but Gold has said the number could be as high as $4.3 billion.

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Haha, nice. I imagine the range in estimated cost might be related to labor and material costs, but I want to believe they just have even bigger plans than already revealed. Actually, it's funny you chose the Houston skyline. If we UNMC got closer to the Texas Medical Center in Houston, that would be great:Athomsfere wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 1:06 pmUNMC in 2040:ita wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 1:04 pmWait, what?Brad wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 12:34 pm UNMC's multibillion-dollar Project NExT reaches 'key milestone'
https://omaha.com/lifestyles/health-med ... -top-story
Omaha has been selected as one of five pilot sites in the U.S. tasked with developing a federal program to bolster the nation's disaster response capacity.
The move marks a key step for local plans to develop a multibillion-dollar, all-hazards response facility in the city.
That is a huge range in cost estimate. So, $2.6 billion is the floor for the NEXT project? That's pretty crazy.The cost of Project NExT has been estimated at $2.6 billion, but Gold has said the number could be as high as $4.3 billion.
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Actually, I've been thinking a lot about how great all of this infill in Omaha is. It reminds me of Houston and it's parking lot problem (which has also gone a long way towards being fixed).ita wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 9:39 am
Haha, nice. I imagine the range in estimated cost might be related to labor and material costs, but I want to believe they just have even bigger plans than already revealed. Actually, it's funny you chose the Houston skyline. If we UNMC got closer to the Texas Medical Center in Houston, that would be great:
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And also the one near Denton I think, where there is a nice little " city " of a research facility as you drive towards Dallas on 35.
But if UNMC were ever anywhere near the 106k employed at TMC, Omaha would be on some serious swagger.
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We will never get to TMC size, but UNMC/Nebraska Med Center with 20-25k employees, that is crazy to think about. I don't think that is a stretch either as Project NEXT and the Innovation Hub is built out. It is fantastic infill, which I hope will be accompanied by additional high density residential projects in Midtown/Downtown (and a streetcarAthomsfere wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 10:16 amActually, I've been thinking a lot about how great all of this infill in Omaha is. It reminds me of Houston and it's parking lot problem (which has also gone a long way towards being fixed).ita wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 9:39 am
Haha, nice. I imagine the range in estimated cost might be related to labor and material costs, but I want to believe they just have even bigger plans than already revealed. Actually, it's funny you chose the Houston skyline. If we UNMC got closer to the Texas Medical Center in Houston, that would be great:
And also the one near Denton I think, where there is a nice little " city " of a research facility as you drive towards Dallas on 35.
But if UNMC were ever anywhere near the 106k employed at TMC, Omaha would be on some serious swagger.
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Oh yeah, 100% agreed.ita wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 3:25 pmWe will never get to TMC size, but UNMC/Nebraska Med Center with 20-25k employees, that is crazy to think about. I don't think that is a stretch either as Project NEXT and the Innovation Hub is built out. It is fantastic infill, which I hope will be accompanied by additional high density residential projects in Midtown/Downtown (and a streetcarAthomsfere wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 10:16 amActually, I've been thinking a lot about how great all of this infill in Omaha is. It reminds me of Houston and it's parking lot problem (which has also gone a long way towards being fixed).ita wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 9:39 am
Haha, nice. I imagine the range in estimated cost might be related to labor and material costs, but I want to believe they just have even bigger plans than already revealed. Actually, it's funny you chose the Houston skyline. If we UNMC got closer to the Texas Medical Center in Houston, that would be great:
And also the one near Denton I think, where there is a nice little " city " of a research facility as you drive towards Dallas on 35.
But if UNMC were ever anywhere near the 106k employed at TMC, Omaha would be on some serious swagger.). The future is bright for that area and it will look completely different by the end of this decade, I suspect.
Random interesting bit though: Houston and Omaha have about the same average density... NExT and a little infill we might be able to beat Houston on at least that.
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How many does UNMC currently employ?
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According to cursory Google search, between 8,000 and a little over 9,000.
OMA-->CHI-->NYC
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From an article in the World Herald from 2013 with a list of largest employers in the metro, they listed the following:
No. 1: University of Nebraska Medical Center and hospital, 10,605 employees
No. 2: Offutt Air Force Base, 9,980
No. 3: Alegent Creighton Health, 9,729
No. 4: Omaha Public Schools, 7,926
No. 5: Methodist Health System, 5,697
I am pretty sure they would have more than that number now with all the growth in the past 5-6 years.
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Man this is such a big project. This is a 'rising tides lift all boats' scenario.
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UNMC has around 5700 employees. Nebraska Medicine has 9500. Of course, not all work on the main campus.
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I was just about to post this. So, conservative estimates might put total employment at the campus at 11,000 currently. Add the 8000+ project NEXT jobs and we are right at below 20,000. That's wild to think about. That doesn't include the 4700 students UNMC has enrolled or whatever jobs the innovation hub creates, unless that's included in the Project NEXT numbers. The number of students has to increase as the campus grows as well.labguy wrote: Fri May 07, 2021 9:46 am UNMC has around 5700 employees. Nebraska Medicine has 9500. Of course, not all work on the main campus.
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That sure is an awful lot of government funded jobs for a state that says it hates socialism so much...wrote:From an article in the World Herald from 2013 with a list of largest employers in the metro, they listed the following:
No. 1: University of Nebraska Medical Center and hospital, 10,605 employees
No. 2: Offutt Air Force Base, 9,980
No. 3: Alegent Creighton Health, 9,729
No. 4: Omaha Public Schools, 7,926
No. 5: Methodist Health System, 5,697
I am pretty sure they would have more than that number now with all the growth in the past 5-6 years.
Stable genius.
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No no no, government is ok when it benefits ME!Big E wrote: Fri May 07, 2021 10:58 amThat sure is an awful lot of government funded jobs for a state that says it hates socialism so much...wrote:From an article in the World Herald from 2013 with a list of largest employers in the metro, they listed the following:
No. 1: University of Nebraska Medical Center and hospital, 10,605 employees
No. 2: Offutt Air Force Base, 9,980
No. 3: Alegent Creighton Health, 9,729
No. 4: Omaha Public Schools, 7,926
No. 5: Methodist Health System, 5,697
I am pretty sure they would have more than that number now with all the growth in the past 5-6 years.
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Munroe-Meyer Institute opens $91 million building in Omaha with more space for services






The Munroe-Meyer Institute’s new $91 million home features cold- and warm-water pools, an indoor splash pad and state-of-the art physical therapy and virtual reality labs intended to provide the care needed by people with intellectual and developmental disabilities.
The 220,000-square-foot structure provides more than double the space the institute occupied on the University of Nebraska Medical Center’s main campus. It offers not only room to provide more effective care, education and research but also space to grow.
“This is as world-class as any facility of its type has ever been,” Dr. Jeffrey Gold, UNMC’s chancellor, said Tuesday.
Mirnics said the institute tallies between 80,000 and 90,000 visits a year. With the new facility, it will have the capacity to expand to 150,000 annual visits.
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This is a really neat facility. They are sized for growth, according to the article. They already bring 550 employees to the Askarben area, so that is a huge win for AV.skinzfan23 wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 8:45 am Munroe-Meyer Institute opens $91 million building in Omaha with more space for services
The Munroe-Meyer Institute’s new $91 million home features cold- and warm-water pools, an indoor splash pad and state-of-the art physical therapy and virtual reality labs intended to provide the care needed by people with intellectual and developmental disabilities.
The 220,000-square-foot structure provides more than double the space the institute occupied on the University of Nebraska Medical Center’s main campus. It offers not only room to provide more effective care, education and research but also space to grow.
“This is as world-class as any facility of its type has ever been,” Dr. Jeffrey Gold, UNMC’s chancellor, said Tuesday.
Mirnics said the institute tallies between 80,000 and 90,000 visits a year. With the new facility, it will have the capacity to expand to 150,000 annual visits.
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When is this project actually going to start? Feels like I have been hearing about it forever but nothing has ever happenedita wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 1:04 pmWait, what?Brad wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 12:34 pm UNMC's multibillion-dollar Project NExT reaches 'key milestone'
https://omaha.com/lifestyles/health-med ... -top-story
Omaha has been selected as one of five pilot sites in the U.S. tasked with developing a federal program to bolster the nation's disaster response capacity.
The move marks a key step for local plans to develop a multibillion-dollar, all-hazards response facility in the city.
That is a huge range in cost estimate. So, $2.6 billion is the floor for the NEXT project? That's pretty crazy.The cost of Project NExT has been estimated at $2.6 billion, but Gold has said the number could be as high as $4.3 billion.
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It has been a while but since I believe it will end up the largest project in state history that's kind of expected. Plus it seems as if things are progressing. I believe the latest was the financial commitment from the city of Omaha.strangerthings wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 9:33 amWhen is this project actually going to start? Feels like I have been hearing about it forever but nothing has ever happenedita wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 1:04 pmWait, what?Brad wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 12:34 pm UNMC's multibillion-dollar Project NExT reaches 'key milestone'
https://omaha.com/lifestyles/health-med ... -top-story
Omaha has been selected as one of five pilot sites in the U.S. tasked with developing a federal program to bolster the nation's disaster response capacity.
The move marks a key step for local plans to develop a multibillion-dollar, all-hazards response facility in the city.
That is a huge range in cost estimate. So, $2.6 billion is the floor for the NEXT project? That's pretty crazy.The cost of Project NExT has been estimated at $2.6 billion, but Gold has said the number could be as high as $4.3 billion.
With UNMC's leadership and track record, I think we will continue to see things line up.
Greg
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Being chosen as a pilot site for expanding the National Disaster Emergency System is a big step reasons outlined in another OWH article that covered the passage of the federal legislation underpinning the site selection.Greg S wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 10:10 amIt has been a while but since I believe it will end up the largest project in state history that's kind of expected. Plus it seems as if things are progressing. I believe the latest was the financial commitment from the city of Omaha.strangerthings wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 9:33 amWhen is this project actually going to start? Feels like I have been hearing about it forever but nothing has ever happenedita wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 1:04 pmWait, what?Brad wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 12:34 pm UNMC's multibillion-dollar Project NExT reaches 'key milestone'
https://omaha.com/lifestyles/health-med ... -top-story
Omaha has been selected as one of five pilot sites in the U.S. tasked with developing a federal program to bolster the nation's disaster response capacity.
The move marks a key step for local plans to develop a multibillion-dollar, all-hazards response facility in the city.
That is a huge range in cost estimate. So, $2.6 billion is the floor for the NEXT project? That's pretty crazy.The cost of Project NExT has been estimated at $2.6 billion, but Gold has said the number could be as high as $4.3 billion.
With UNMC's leadership and track record, I think we will continue to see things line up.
Greg
Passage of 2 bills in Congress opens door for UNMC's $2.6 billion facility, Project NeXT
So, in summary, being chosen as a pilot site opens the door to get the federal funding UNMC needs under the 2022 defense funding bill. That means we will not see any groundbreaking with the NExT project until at least next year if not 2023 as the State and City commitments are based largely on the federal monies (private donors seem to be ready to go on their end). At least this is how I understand how this project will progress in the near future. Maybe we get some site plans or renderings this year, but I am not holding my breath.Julie Anderson
While such projects have been outlined previously, the defense funding measure directs it in law for the first time and instructs the Defense Department to lay out the scope and identify “not fewer than two” sites for the first pilot projects by March 31. That sets the stage for funding of the projects in the 2022 defense funding bill.
“This is a major step forward for us,” Gold said.
Gold acknowledged that other sites will compete for the dollars. But UNMC meets the eligibility criteria outlined in the measures.
The federal spending bill calls on defense officials to prioritize “locations that would facilitate public-private partnerships with academic medical centers of institutions of higher education, hospitals, and other entities with facilities that have an established history of providing clinical care, treatment, training, and research” involving infectious diseases and other threats.
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I'd assume no more new renderings until the funds are somewhat solid too then.
Maybe, with a little luck we hear something about light rail being mandatory from the city too.
Maybe, with a little luck we hear something about light rail being mandatory from the city too.
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Omaha VA explores partnership for new care facility, including possibly UNMC's Project NExT
Very early in discussions, according to the article, but another possible addition to the NExT Project. Expansion may be either at UNMC Project NExT or VA's current location. Anyway, another thing to watch for.Henry Cordes
It’s been less than a year since the Omaha VA opened a new outpatient care facility to serve the region’s veterans, built through a first-of-its-kind public-private partnership with Omaha philanthropists.
Now the Omaha VA is exploring another public-private partnership to improve inpatient hospital and surgical facilities for veterans — with one possibility discussed being to include such a facility as part of the massive Project NExT on the University of Nebraska Medical Center campus.
To help lay the groundwork for a potential new inpatient facility, U.S. Rep. Don Bacon and U.S. Sen. Deb Fischer this week introduced legislation reauthorizing the CHIP-IN for Veterans Act, the 2016 federal law providing for public-private partnerships that made the Omaha outpatient care center possible.
Bacon said the lawmakers sought the five-year reauthorization for the expiring law at the request of the Omaha VA.
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That's interesting for sure.ita wrote: Mon Jun 21, 2021 11:07 am Omaha VA explores partnership for new care facility, including possibly UNMC's Project NExT
Very early in discussions, according to the article, but another possible addition to the NExT Project. Expansion may be either at UNMC Project NExT or VA's current location. Anyway, another thing to watch for.Henry Cordes
It’s been less than a year since the Omaha VA opened a new outpatient care facility to serve the region’s veterans, built through a first-of-its-kind public-private partnership with Omaha philanthropists.
Now the Omaha VA is exploring another public-private partnership to improve inpatient hospital and surgical facilities for veterans — with one possibility discussed being to include such a facility as part of the massive Project NExT on the University of Nebraska Medical Center campus.
To help lay the groundwork for a potential new inpatient facility, U.S. Rep. Don Bacon and U.S. Sen. Deb Fischer this week introduced legislation reauthorizing the CHIP-IN for Veterans Act, the 2016 federal law providing for public-private partnerships that made the Omaha outpatient care center possible.
Bacon said the lawmakers sought the five-year reauthorization for the expiring law at the request of the Omaha VA.
Part of me would love to see it go to the VA site, and pull some development south. But I feel like the better overall solution would be at UNMC to not divide resources.
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Athomsfere wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 11:37 am I'd assume no more new renderings until the funds are somewhat solid too then.
Maybe, with a little luck we hear something about light rail being mandatory from the city too.
No thanks. I'd rather a 2.5-4.5 billion dollar investment that's supposed to lead to 9,000 good-paying jobs have as few speedbumps/hurdles as possible.
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Agreed, less is more in this case. However, I would not be surprised if UNMC pushes a streetcar or other fixed lane public transit to serve UNMC on their own. We have already seen inklings of this with the renderings of the innovation hub with evidence of street car-like transportation/rail and MetroNext showing BRT leading to UNMC from all over urban Omaha. I have said this before, but it would behoove UNMC to get as many multimodal options as they can as providing parking for the potential increase in employees would cost oodles and use up valuable and limited real estate.NEDodger wrote: Mon Jun 21, 2021 3:05 pmAthomsfere wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 11:37 am I'd assume no more new renderings until the funds are somewhat solid too then.
Maybe, with a little luck we hear something about light rail being mandatory from the city too.
No thanks. I'd rather a 2.5-4.5 billion dollar investment that's supposed to lead to 9,000 good-paying jobs have as few speedbumps/hurdles as possible.
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Yep, exactly. As good as it looks, there's still no guarantee this is still happening. This has the chance to be the most transformative thing for Omaha since the Union Pacific. 9,000 additional jobs in midtown? There's your:
a.) additional development in the direct area
b.) likely kickoff for MIdtown Crossing East
c.) ready-made buyers for WHATever housing is built between downtown and UNMC
d.) impetus for increased mass transit
e.) probable impetus for a high-rise downtown, which may be what kicks the Lanoha property into gear
f.) chance to shoot past 500,000 city limits and 1,000,000 in the metro in short order - all these 9,000 jobs won't be taken by the locals
Cheer for this to get across the finish line with as few problems/hurdles as possible.
a.) additional development in the direct area
b.) likely kickoff for MIdtown Crossing East
c.) ready-made buyers for WHATever housing is built between downtown and UNMC
d.) impetus for increased mass transit
e.) probable impetus for a high-rise downtown, which may be what kicks the Lanoha property into gear
f.) chance to shoot past 500,000 city limits and 1,000,000 in the metro in short order - all these 9,000 jobs won't be taken by the locals
Cheer for this to get across the finish line with as few problems/hurdles as possible.
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Not sure exactly where to put this but I was told the moped shop and all of the other businesses on 4314 Leavenworth were told to move out this week and demolition will take place on these buildings all in the next few weeks :/
Making room for another parking lot.
Making room for another parking lot.
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I hope not, I love these little shops... Not that I've been, but their character and they look great there.BIGO88 wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 8:15 am Not sure exactly where to put this but I was told the moped shop and all of the other businesses on 4314 Leavenworth were told to move out this week and demolition will take place on these buildings all in the next few weeks :/
Making room for another parking lot.
Appears the owner of that lot, and next door, though not the entire block is owned by "LOWELL GORANSON LIV TRUST ETAL".
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Re: Nebraska Medicine
Back in Feb the mayor said on Grow Omaha that there would be an announcement soon about a 1200 bed hospital. Did that ever happen?
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Re: Nebraska Medicine
Not yet. They talked to Jay Noddle about it on the 7/17 grow Omaha. Seems like its still really close.Doctor Fate wrote: Sat Jul 24, 2021 11:00 pm Back in Feb the mayor said on Grow Omaha that there would be an announcement soon about a 1200 bed hospital. Did that ever happen?
My opinion... Right now there is basically nothing being built an UNMC, when is the last time that has happened? I'm guessing they are getting all their ducks in a row for this huge project.

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