For the other 1 million plus metros in the Midwest - Official 2020 Census. The raw numbers.....
Nice to see everyone growing this go around.
Population -
Chicago - 9,618,502
Detroit - 4,392,041
Minneapolis/ St Paul - 3,690,261
St Louis - 2,820,253
Cincinnati - 2,256,884
Kansas City - 2,192,035
Columbus - 2,138,926
Indpls - 2,111,040
Cleveland - 2,088,251
Milwaukee - 1,574,731
Population increase - 2010 to 2020 -
Minneapolis/ St Paul - 343,402
Columbus - 236,952
Indpls - 223,163
Kansas City - 182,063
Chicago - 157,397
Cincinnati - 119,217
Detroit - 95,791
St Louis - 32,552
Milwaukee - 18,823
Cleveland - 11,011
Jeffrey Robb
Omaha is showing solid progress in attracting people to the city’s core.
New 2020 Census figures show Omaha’s urban center population grew over the past decade inside the Interstate 680 loop and especially east of 72nd Street.
Over the last 50 years — a period of ever-stretching suburban expansion for Omaha — the population east of 72nd Street has still fallen by more than 40,000 people.
But that decline would have been even larger if not for the urban area’s growth since 2010. A World-Herald analysis of 2020 Census counts shows that the area east of 72nd Street gained more than 13,000 people during the decade.
Not only that, but the neighborhoods west of 72nd Street and inside the I-680 loop increased by another 7,000 people. That means that the population inside I-680 surged by 20,000 people since 2010.
VeloRider wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 9:17 pm
For the other 1 million plus metros in the Midwest - Official 2020 Census. The raw numbers.....
Nice to see everyone growing this go around.
Population -
Chicago - 9,618,502
Detroit - 4,392,041
Minneapolis/ St Paul - 3,690,261
St Louis - 2,820,253
Cincinnati - 2,256,884
Kansas City - 2,192,035
Columbus - 2,138,926
Indpls - 2,111,040
Cleveland - 2,088,251
Milwaukee - 1,574,731
Population increase - 2010 to 2020 -
Minneapolis/ St Paul - 343,402
Columbus - 236,952
Indpls - 223,163
Kansas City - 182,063
Chicago - 157,397
Cincinnati - 119,217
Detroit - 95,791
St Louis - 32,552
Milwaukee - 18,823
Cleveland - 11,011
And what is impressive too, is that other than Columbus, Ohio- Omaha’s metro grew at a faster rate last decade than all of them…
It’s weird how St Louis has been growing very slowly for decades now. It hasn’t really lost any population but just grows slowly decade after decade. Minneapolis always has impressive growth, as it has a strong diversified economy. I think until the 1960’s the St Louis metro was larger than the Twin cities.
The St Louis metro barely grew by 1.0% (1.17% to be exact) this past decade..
The St Louis city population loss is especially striking- in 1950, it peaked at 857,000..today it barely measures over 300,000..nearly 3 times smaller than 70 years ago. I don’t believe St Louis is allowed to annex..but all the same, it’s incredible the urban infill population loss…
Omaha Cowboy wrote: Sun Oct 31, 2021 11:43 pm
The St Louis metro barely grew by 1.0% (1.17% to be exact) this past decade..
The St Louis city population loss is especially striking- in 1950, it peaked at 857,000..today it barely measures over 300,000..nearly 3 times smaller than 70 years ago. I don’t believe St Louis is allowed to annex..but all the same, it’s incredible the urban infill population loss…
Ciao..LiO…Peace
They are not allowed to annex and decades of urban decay managed by inept political leadership of the donkey persuasion have caused people and businesses to leave for the burbs. Basically, turning that metro into a donut.
Omaha Cowboy wrote: Sun Oct 31, 2021 11:43 pm
The St Louis metro barely grew by 1.0% (1.17% to be exact) this past decade..
The St Louis city population loss is especially striking- in 1950, it peaked at 857,000..today it barely measures over 300,000..nearly 3 times smaller than 70 years ago. I don’t believe St Louis is allowed to annex..but all the same, it’s incredible the urban infill population loss…
Ciao..LiO…Peace
They are not allowed to annex and decades of urban decay managed by inept political leadership of the donkey persuasion have caused people and businesses to leave for the burbs. Basically, turning that metro into a donut.
It’s a rust belt city that has had to contend with the decline of American manufacturing - particularly automobiles, steel, and textiles. This at the same time as suburbanization was sweeping the nation to escape the urban impacts of manufacturing as well as African Americans, which there has historically been a high population of in St. Louis. Collectively it was a recipe for disaster regardless of who was in charge.
The gains in white collar jobs haven’t been able to do much more than balance the losses in manufacturing jobs, so the population remains stagnant. The city’s population continues to decline, but its not across the board. The Central Corridor has been gaining in both population and well paying jobs.
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Omaha Cowboy wrote: Sun Oct 31, 2021 11:43 pm
The St Louis metro barely grew by 1.0% (1.17% to be exact) this past decade..
The St Louis city population loss is especially striking- in 1950, it peaked at 857,000..today it barely measures over 300,000..nearly 3 times smaller than 70 years ago. I don’t believe St Louis is allowed to annex..but all the same, it’s incredible the urban infill population loss…
Ciao..LiO…Peace
They are not allowed to annex and decades of urban decay managed by inept political leadership of the donkey persuasion have caused people and businesses to leave for the burbs. Basically, turning that metro into a donut.
It’s a rust belt city that has had to contend with the decline of American manufacturing - particularly automobiles, steel, and textiles. This at the same time as suburbanization was sweeping the nation to escape the urban impacts of manufacturing as well as African Americans, which there has historically been a high population of in St. Louis. Collectively it was a recipe for disaster regardless of who was in charge.
The gains in white collar jobs haven’t been able to do much more than balance the losses in manufacturing jobs, so the population remains stagnant. The city’s population continues to decline, but its not across the board. The Central Corridor has been gaining in both population and well paying jobs.
I was checking into St Louis city population numbers for historical context- in 1880, it’s city population was 350,518.. In 2020- 308,000..
140 years later, STL has a smaller city population today than 1880. Some unreal and telling population factoids showing the ebb and flow of what Titos is mentioning here…
Imagine if Omaha hadn't been able to annex Bemis Park, let alone had lost the fight to annex South Omaha, Florence, Dundee and Benson. Would the City of Omaha population even surpass 100,000?
That's how badly St Louis got screwed by its state.
Omaha Cowboy wrote: Sun Oct 31, 2021 11:43 pm
The St Louis metro barely grew by 1.0% (1.17% to be exact) this past decade..
The St Louis city population loss is especially striking- in 1950, it peaked at 857,000..today it barely measures over 300,000..nearly 3 times smaller than 70 years ago. I don’t believe St Louis is allowed to annex..but all the same, it’s incredible the urban infill population loss…
Ciao..LiO…Peace
They are not allowed to annex and decades of urban decay managed by inept political leadership of the donkey persuasion have caused people and businesses to leave for the burbs. Basically, turning that metro into a donut.
It’s a rust belt city that has had to contend with the decline of American manufacturing - particularly automobiles, steel, and textiles. This at the same time as suburbanization was sweeping the nation to escape the urban impacts of manufacturing as well as African Americans, which there has historically been a high population of in St. Louis. Collectively it was a recipe for disaster regardless of who was in charge.
The gains in white collar jobs haven’t been able to do much more than balance the losses in manufacturing jobs, so the population remains stagnant. The city’s population continues to decline, but its not across the board. The Central Corridor has been gaining in both population and well paying jobs.
I was checking into St Louis city population numbers for historical context- in 1880, it’s city population was 350,518.. In 2020- 308,000..
140 years later, STL has a smaller city population today than 1880. Some unreal and telling population factoids showing the ebb and flow of what Titos is mentioning here…
Ciao..LiO…Peace
I mean imagine the living conditions in a city in 1880. 10 people in a room, no sewer systems... Smaller cities aren't ALWAYS a bad thing.
Omaha Cowboy wrote: Sun Oct 31, 2021 11:43 pm
The St Louis metro barely grew by 1.0% (1.17% to be exact) this past decade..
The St Louis city population loss is especially striking- in 1950, it peaked at 857,000..today it barely measures over 300,000..nearly 3 times smaller than 70 years ago. I don’t believe St Louis is allowed to annex..but all the same, it’s incredible the urban infill population loss…
Ciao..LiO…Peace
They are not allowed to annex and decades of urban decay managed by inept political leadership of the donkey persuasion have caused people and businesses to leave for the burbs. Basically, turning that metro into a donut.
It’s a rust belt city that has had to contend with the decline of American manufacturing - particularly automobiles, steel, and textiles. This at the same time as suburbanization was sweeping the nation to escape the urban impacts of manufacturing as well as African Americans, which there has historically been a high population of in St. Louis. Collectively it was a recipe for disaster regardless of who was in charge.
The gains in white collar jobs haven’t been able to do much more than balance the losses in manufacturing jobs, so the population remains stagnant. The city’s population continues to decline, but its not across the board. The Central Corridor has been gaining in both population and well paying jobs.
I was checking into St Louis city population numbers for historical context- in 1880, it’s city population was 350,518.. In 2020- 308,000..
140 years later, STL has a smaller city population today than 1880. Some unreal and telling population factoids showing the ebb and flow of what Titos is mentioning here…
Ciao..LiO…Peace
I mean imagine the living conditions in a city in 1880. 10 people in a room, no sewer systems... Smaller cities aren't ALWAYS a bad thing.
No electricity, no motorized transport.. People lived in these conditions as normal for the times.. I remember back around 2008, a particularly severe thunderstorm knocked power out at my residence for 4 days.. By day 3 I was going nuts, lol..
In any case, it’s fortunate Omaha has liberal ability to at least annex within Douglas County..the exciting thing, is to see the urban infill growth east of 72nd st this boast decade; this trend should enhance and continue.. It look about 50 years (maybe a bit longer) but Omaha finally appears to be growing the correct, more well rounded way…
Cermak wrote: Sun Oct 31, 2021 11:02 pm
It’s weird how St Louis has been growing very slowly for decades now. It hasn’t really lost any population but just grows slowly decade after decade. Minneapolis always has impressive growth, as it has a strong diversified economy. I think until the 1960’s the St Louis metro was larger than the Twin cities.
It was. Even when I was a kid in the 80's, St. Louis was always thought of the big city of the Midwest, west of Chicago. Crazy that now even the City of St. Paul (which has not annexed anything in 100 years) has more people than St. Louis now.
Dundeemaha wrote: Mon Nov 01, 2021 1:35 pm
Imagine if Omaha hadn't been able to annex Bemis Park, let alone had lost the fight to annex South Omaha, Florence, Dundee and Benson. Would the City of Omaha population even surpass 100,000?
That's how badly St Louis got screwed by its state.
Dundeemaha wrote: Mon Nov 01, 2021 1:35 pm
Imagine if Omaha hadn't been able to annex Bemis Park, let alone had lost the fight to annex South Omaha, Florence, Dundee and Benson. Would the City of Omaha population even surpass 100,000?
I looked it up to make sure, but all those annexations occurred between 1915-1917. Omaha proper, if the numbers I am looking at are correct, was well over 100k by 1890, thought it dipped close to barely over 100k in 1900.
Dundeemaha wrote: Mon Nov 01, 2021 1:35 pm
Imagine if Omaha hadn't been able to annex Bemis Park, let alone had lost the fight to annex South Omaha, Florence, Dundee and Benson. Would the City of Omaha population even surpass 100,000?
That's how badly St Louis got screwed by its state.
Self-inflicted wound.
Kind of. When St. Louis City separated from St. Louis County, they did so after growing tired of propping up the rural parts of the County with their tax money. When they split from the County, which was their idea, they thought they had set a boundary for themselves that would allow the city to grow and prosper for decades upon decades upon decades, not foreseeing how low-density suburban growth would cause them to reach that boundary much quicker than expected. They were so confident, apparently, that they didn't put any clause into the deal allowing them to walk back the arrangement of separation. Today, St. Louis County is pretty much out of developable rural land and there have been multiple attempts to rejoin the City with the County. This has yet to be successful because the egos of the people in charge of either the County or the City have gotten in the way of a workable plan to reunite and the deal gets called off.
It's not that cities that have the inability to annex, whether self-inflicted or by outside forces, can't be successful. Look at San Francisco - roughly the same size of St. Louis and can't keep people away. DC is also growing and prospering at a greater rate than its metro area as a whole. It's really a matter of luck. While San Francisco is quite pretty, there's no reason why the tech industry is there and not, say, St. Louis, other than the fact that the most significant industry innovators happened to be attending Stanford when their innovations took life. If they happened to be at Washington University here in St. Louis instead, Silicon Valley would be here.
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Dundeemaha wrote: Mon Nov 01, 2021 1:35 pm
Imagine if Omaha hadn't been able to annex Bemis Park, let alone had lost the fight to annex South Omaha, Florence, Dundee and Benson. Would the City of Omaha population even surpass 100,000?
That's how badly St Louis got screwed by its state.
Self-inflicted wound.
Kind of. When St. Louis City separated from St. Louis County, they did so after growing tired of propping up the rural parts of the County with their tax money. When they split from the County, which was their idea, they thought they had set a boundary for themselves that would allow the city to grow and prosper for decades upon decades upon decades, not foreseeing how low-density suburban growth would cause them to reach that boundary much quicker than expected. They were so confident, apparently, that they didn't put any clause into the deal allowing them to walk back the arrangement of separation. Today, St. Louis County is pretty much out of developable rural land and there have been multiple attempts to rejoin the City with the County. This has yet to be successful because the egos of the people in charge of either the County or the City have gotten in the way of a workable plan to reunite and the deal gets called off.
And I'm all for it. If I were County, I'd put City on call-block. I say this even though STL City is my hometown. (FYI, STL County is not much better, nor is St.Charles County, for that matter.)
Dundeemaha wrote: Mon Nov 01, 2021 1:35 pm
Imagine if Omaha hadn't been able to annex Bemis Park, let alone had lost the fight to annex South Omaha, Florence, Dundee and Benson. Would the City of Omaha population even surpass 100,000?
That's how badly St Louis got screwed by its state.
Self-inflicted wound.
Kind of. When St. Louis City separated from St. Louis County, they did so after growing tired of propping up the rural parts of the County with their tax money. When they split from the County, which was their idea, they thought they had set a boundary for themselves that would allow the city to grow and prosper for decades upon decades upon decades, not foreseeing how low-density suburban growth would cause them to reach that boundary much quicker than expected. They were so confident, apparently, that they didn't put any clause into the deal allowing them to walk back the arrangement of separation. Today, St. Louis County is pretty much out of developable rural land and there have been multiple attempts to rejoin the City with the County. This has yet to be successful because the egos of the people in charge of either the County or the City have gotten in the way of a workable plan to reunite and the deal gets called off.
And I'm all for it. If I were County, I'd put City on call-block. I say this even though STL City is my hometown. (FYI, STL County is not much better, nor is St.Charles County, for that matter.)
Oh most definitely. They are all quite near-sighted in their own ways. I've never experienced a more uncooperative metropolitan area. I wouldn't be surprised if Chesterfield has moved on from trying to move the state capital there to trying to apply for statehood.
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ozbone69 wrote: Fri Jan 05, 2024 2:12 pm
With it officially being 2024 now, do we have any up-to-date numbers on how close the Omaha metro is to 1 million people?
This release from the city (Aug, 2021) said "The Omaha metropolitan area is expected to surpass one million residents in the next three years."
The US Census releases their annual metro population estimates the 3rd week of March. The estimates, imo, are famous for lowballing Omaha’s growth. Last year, according to the estimate, Omaha’s metro population was 977,000 and the CSA 1,014,000.. So the CSA for Omaha, which includes Dodge County, passed the 1 million mark in 2020. Honestly, I think the Omaha metro population is already at 1 million, even if the estimate coming out this March has us just short (which it likely will)…
Omaha Cowboy wrote: Sat Nov 13, 2021 3:01 pm
This is a pretty cool map showing all 392 US metropolitan areas and a listing of all of their populations from the official 2020 US Census..
I would think in the next 20 years or sooner Dallas and Houston have a good chance of overtaking Chicago for the nations 3rd and 4th largest metro’s. Dropping Chicago to 5th.
Omaha Cowboy wrote: Sat Nov 13, 2021 3:01 pm
This is a pretty cool map showing all 392 US metropolitan areas and a listing of all of their populations from the official 2020 US Census..
I would think in the next 20 years or sooner Dallas and Houston have a good chance of overtaking Chicago for the nations 3rd and 4th largest metro’s. Dropping Chicago to 5th.
Omaha Cowboy wrote: Sat Nov 13, 2021 3:01 pm
This is a pretty cool map showing all 392 US metropolitan areas and a listing of all of their populations from the official 2020 US Census..
I would think in the next 20 years or sooner Dallas and Houston have a good chance of overtaking Chicago for the nations 3rd and 4th largest metro’s. Dropping Chicago to 5th.
I think sooner than 20 years on that…
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If those listed growth rates stay the same, it’ll probably be in 15.
Omaha Cowboy wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 5:41 pm
In any case, we’ll be getting the 2023 annual US Census estimates, notorious for lowballing Omaha’s MSA/CSA numbers, the 3rd week of March..
The 2022 estimate from last year had the Omaha CSA at 1,014,000 (and change). It’ll be interesting to see where we land this go around…
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If it's anything like recent estimates (which are ridiculous obviously), it'll probably show a population decline...
Omaha Cowboy wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 5:41 pm
In any case, we’ll be getting the 2023 annual US Census estimates, notorious for lowballing Omaha’s MSA/CSA numbers, the 3rd week of March..
The 2022 estimate from last year had the Omaha CSA at 1,014,000 (and change). It’ll be interesting to see where we land this go around…
Ciao..LiO…Peace
If it's anything like recent estimates (which are ridiculous obviously), it'll probably show a population decline...