Old Union Pacific Headquarters Lot

[Athomsfere]

I do love the MoO building. If it's them, and not Physicians I hope they sell or develop the shell as something else. Beggars can't be choosers, but the "shell" at least seems to have so much potential.

Imagine that dome becoming more dining, where you could sit above or below and soak in the seasons over a nice scotch or mule, before returning to your condo in MTC or the MoO.

[Louie]

I do love the MoO building. If it's them, and not Physicians I hope they sell or develop the shell as something else. Beggars can't be choosers, but the "shell" at least seems to have so much potential.

Imagine that dome becoming more dining, where you could sit above or below and soak in the seasons over a nice scotch or mule, before returning to your condo in MTC or the MoO.

The dome at night is probably really cool.

[Hawkeye]

Sorry folks, but me likey the Photoshoppy.

Here's another view, at night, using Cincinnati's Great American tower as a placeholder for Omaha's inevitable new tallest, which if I'm reading this thread right, should break ground any day now. (Copyright: Steve Minard)

[Night Train]

Sorry folks, but me likey the Photoshoppy.

Here's another view, at night, using Cincinnati's Great American tower as a placeholder for Omaha's inevitable new tallest, which if I'm reading this thread right, should break ground any day now. (Copyright: Steve Minard)

Looks great , keep ‘em coming!

[Vitruvius]

Sustainable design is a big thing now for most architects and and even some developers, so I’d be very surprised if the existing Mutual buildings aren’t repurposed in some manner. They surely are in need of a major HVAC upgrade. But more realistically, the shells could even be gutted down to the steel columns beams and completely converted into other uses such as residential apartments/condos on the upper levels, and/or some flexible office space with commercial space at street level.

If the rumors are true and Mutual does indeed end up building on the 1416 Dodge site, it will be fun to see if the new building picks up any design cues from the original Mutual buildings or if they create something totally new, or subtly do both.

Of course, the dominant philosophy in Omaha is to always tear it down. The original 1940 building and additions is a landmark and a resource, both economic and historic. Any building of that era or any era is going to need upgrades. That's no excuse to throw it into the dumpster. Other cities creatively adapt and redevelopment buildings of this era with success. There is no legitimate argument for demolition. To do so would be irresponsible.
On the other hand, Demolition of the building across Farnam on the South would be a welcome event in my opinion. Perhaps that would satisfy the appetite for demolition. A beautiful new residential or mixed-use tower on that site would be a welcome addition and add interest to the skyline.

[Omaha Cowboy]

Sorry folks, but me likey the Photoshoppy.

Here's another view, at night, using Cincinnati's Great American tower as a placeholder for Omaha's inevitable new tallest, which if I'm reading this thread right, should break ground any day now. (Copyright: Steve Minard)

Lol nice photoshop..

‘Ol Hawkeye putting in the work to give us a vision of what we might see ..

And maybe we can break the string and this rumored project not get “Minarded” …

Ciao..LiO…Peace

[OracleOfOmaha]

After thinking about this, Mutual would be an obvious choice and it makes a lot of sense for them.

As previously stated, their building is rundown. They could tear down their current building and redevelop that land as well as a lot of those parking lots into mid-rise apartments/condos (amazing location to live: right off dodge, near blackstone, MTC, and a quick drive or bike to downtown), office for UNMC. They could pay off a 30 year lease in an iconic high rise downtown off the sale and even the development of that land. Win-win scenario

Yep..

The groundwork for this rumor has been soundly laid. Now we just need an announcement of a proposal..

The waiting game continues.. And welcome to the forum …

Ciao..LiO…Peace

Thanks, have been a reader of the forum for years and years. Finally decided to get the account. From Omaha, live in Denver, looking to come back if the opportunity presents itself.

Love following all the development and thank you for all your contributions to the forum as a reader over the years!

[Athomsfere]

One thing I did notice though, throwing a render up of a 700 foot building on the lot in Google Earth:

It would hide the FNBO building from The Bob. So any skyline shots from there we would have just shifted from our two sky scrapers to one a little closer and ~60 foot taller, lol.

[Omaha Cowboy]

After thinking about this, Mutual would be an obvious choice and it makes a lot of sense for them.

As previously stated, their building is rundown. They could tear down their current building and redevelop that land as well as a lot of those parking lots into mid-rise apartments/condos (amazing location to live: right off dodge, near blackstone, MTC, and a quick drive or bike to downtown), office for UNMC. They could pay off a 30 year lease in an iconic high rise downtown off the sale and even the development of that land. Win-win scenario

Yep..

The groundwork for this rumor has been soundly laid. Now we just need an announcement of a proposal..

The waiting game continues.. And welcome to the forum …

Ciao..LiO…Peace

Thanks, have been a reader of the forum for years and years. Finally decided to get the account. From Omaha, live in Denver, looking to come back if the opportunity presents itself.

Love following all the development and thank you for all your contributions to the forum as a reader over the years!

Hey- you’re very welcome..and we’re glad you’ve made the plunge to register and contribute!..

As it relates to your possible move back to Omaha- you’re welcome back with open arms …

Ciao..LiO…Peace

[Athomsfere]

I decided I should the path that hides the FNBO if this rumor gets built:

[Hawkeye]

Okay, okay....one more, then I have to get back to the real world. Although if there's one thing Mr. Rogers taught me, it's that going to the Land of Make Believe is F-U-N fun!

Prospective view on the way in from the airport (this time using a slightly squatified version of Charlotte's Bank of America tower).

[Athomsfere]

Okay, okay....one more, then I have to get back to the real world. Although if there's one thing Mr. Rogers taught me, it's that going to the Land of Make Believe is F-U-N fun!

Prospective view on the way in from the airport (this time using a slightly squatified version of Charlotte's Bank of America tower).

Dang, and just like that Omaha feels three times larger.

[Omaha Cowboy]

Okay, okay....one more, then I have to get back to the real world. Although if there's one thing Mr. Rogers taught me, it's that going to the Land of Make Believe is F-U-N fun!

Prospective view on the way in from the airport (this time using a slightly squatified version of Charlotte's Bank of America tower).

You’ve outdone yourself today..

Nice one …

Ciao..LiO…Peace

[Vitruvius]

[OutoftheCanyon]

Love seeing the photoshopped pictures. My only hope, wether it is this site or the library site that gets a significant tower, is that it is architecturally interesting. Something that says this is a city moving towards the future. I know that won’t happen but it would be great.

[guy4omaha]

Sorry folks, but me likey the Photoshoppy.

Here's another view, at night, using Cincinnati's Great American tower as a placeholder for Omaha's inevitable new tallest, which if I'm reading this thread right, should break ground any day now. (Copyright: Steve Minard)

Maybe feed that Photoshoppy appetite with some Philly icons next?

[Night Train]

Love seeing the photoshopped pictures. My only hope, wether it is this site or the library site that gets a significant tower, is that it is architecturally interesting. Something that says this is a city moving towards the future. I know that won’t happen but it would be great.

I agree. I do hope that whoever designs this tower gives it a modern flavor yet still has it blend architecturally with the rest of the skyline. I thought when the Lanoha tower rendering came out that it blended okay but still had that blocky-style that was somewhat bland in my opinion. I won’t say the Lanoha proposal wasn’t appealing but it didn’t look like a “signature tower” either (even though technically there were two towers). Omaha likes it’s blocks

On the opposite side of that I also hope they don’t design anything too futuristic or out of whack with the skyline either. I’m all for progress and want something that will stand with time; however whatever design comes forth I feel it definitely needs to be complimentary to the current tallest towers without being somewhat similar/same or, on the contrary, something like a mini-Burj Khalifa (I think the BK is a beautiful tower, I just don’t think something like that on even a small scale would work for Omaha’s skyline).

Whatever happens I’m just happy that things are possibly in the works and I can’t wait to see what happens

[Night Train]

And forgive me...the Burj Khalifa is a bad example but hopefully you catch my drift.

[Vitruvius]

Love seeing the photoshopped pictures. My only hope, wether it is this site or the library site that gets a significant tower, is that it is architecturally interesting. Something that says this is a city moving towards the future. I know that won’t happen but it would be great.

I always wonder, naively I guess, why development projects or towers are never put up for design competitions.
A design competition delivers creativity and innovation. Omaha could have some highly recognized solutions to urban redevelopment problems and som truly world-renowned architecture.

[Vitruvius]

Love seeing the photoshopped pictures. My only hope, wether it is this site or the library site that gets a significant tower, is that it is architecturally interesting. Something that says this is a city moving towards the future. I know that won’t happen but it would be great.

I agree. I do hope that whoever designs this tower gives it a modern flavor yet still has it blend architecturally with the rest of the skyline. I thought when the Lanoha tower rendering came out that it blended okay but still had that blocky-style that was somewhat bland in my opinion. I won’t say the Lanoha proposal wasn’t appealing but it didn’t look like a “signature tower” either (even though technically there were two towers). Omaha likes it’s blocks

On the opposite side of that I also hope they don’t design anything too futuristic or out of whack with the skyline either. I’m all for progress and want something that will stand with time; however whatever design comes forth I feel it definitely needs to be complimentary to the current tallest towers without being somewhat similar/same or, on the contrary, something like a mini-Burj Khalifa (I think the BK is a beautiful tower, I just don’t think something like that on even a small scale would work for Omaha’s skyline).

Whatever happens I’m just happy that things are possibly in the works and I can’t wait to see what happens

I would love to see Omaha build something as innovative as the Steinway Tower in NYC.
https://architizer.com/blog/inspiration ... per-facts/

[Linkin5]

Love seeing the photoshopped pictures. My only hope, wether it is this site or the library site that gets a significant tower, is that it is architecturally interesting. Something that says this is a city moving towards the future. I know that won’t happen but it would be great.

I always wonder, naively I guess, why development projects or towers are never put up for design competitions.
A design competition delivers creativity and innovation. Omaha could have some highly recognized solutions to urban redevelopment problems and som truly world-renowned architecture.

A lot of developments put out RFPs and pick the best design/proposal to match their needs, which is essentially a competition.

[Hawkeye]

Sorry folks, but me likey the Photoshoppy.

Here's another view, at night, using Cincinnati's Great American tower as a placeholder for Omaha's inevitable new tallest, which if I'm reading this thread right, should break ground any day now. (Copyright: Steve Minard)

Maybe feed that Photoshoppy appetite with some Philly icons next?

Funny. I almost did One Liberty Place on the last one.

[Doctor Fate]

I would love to see Omaha build something as innovative as the Steinway Tower in NYC.
https://architizer.com/blog/inspiration ... per-facts/

A skinny tower like that would be awesome.

[Omaha Cowboy]

I would love to see Omaha build something as innovative as the Steinway Tower in NYC.
https://architizer.com/blog/inspiration ... per-facts/

A skinny tower like that would be awesome.

I like the creativity here ..

Even something skinny a la the Chrysler Tower in New York or Chicago would look really cool…

Ciao..LiO…Peace

[Doctor Fate]

I would love to see Omaha build something as innovative as the Steinway Tower in NYC.
https://architizer.com/blog/inspiration ... per-facts/

A skinny tower like that would be awesome.

I like the creativity here ..

Even something skinny a la the Chrysler Tower in New York or Chicago would look really cool…

Ciao..LiO…Peace

And it would allow for more development and density on the block.

[Omaha Cowboy]

I would love to see Omaha build something as innovative as the Steinway Tower in NYC.
https://architizer.com/blog/inspiration ... per-facts/

A skinny tower like that would be awesome.

I like the creativity here ..

Even something skinny a la the Chrysler Tower in New York or Chicago would look really cool…

Ciao..LiO…Peace

And it would allow for more development and density on the block.

Indeed…

Ciao..LiO…Peace

[zedmib]

While tall is tall and I will enjoy any good design, I wonder if they could keep the height interval between buildings. The Woodmen at 478, FNBO at 634, New building with the same 156 difference? 790 feet?
Just have to wait and see.

[NEDodger]

All right, Hawkeye. Your next challenge - a photoshop picture of the 700 foot tall tower.....AND a 20-story (just slightly taller than UP?) building on the current main library site!

[Athomsfere]

On the opposite side of that I also hope they don’t design anything too futuristic or out of whack with the skyline either. I’m all for progress and want something that will stand with time; however whatever design comes forth I feel it definitely needs to be complimentary to the current tallest towers without being somewhat similar/same or, on the contrary, something like a mini-Burj Khalifa (I think the BK is a beautiful tower, I just don’t think something like that on even a small scale would work for Omaha’s skyline).

Whatever happens I’m just happy that things are possibly in the works and I can’t wait to see what happens

I've always thought the Burj Khalifa was ugly, personally. Dubai has a lot of cool architecture, but the Burj was always more ugly by necessity.

Previous tallest towers: I'd much prefer the Taipei 101 or Petronas Towers, or the Chrysler Building...

I would love to see Omaha build something as innovative as the Steinway Tower in NYC.
https://architizer.com/blog/inspiration ... per-facts/

I think these new super skinnies are weird. NYC's zoning laws have made them a weird loophole to prevent ugly highrises everywhere, so we get these ugly high rises instead, lol. I'd still live in one, probably. Not sure how I'd feel about the crazy sway. I've been in a highrise during an earthquake (6.7) and that was fun... But imagine dealing with it daily.

While tall is tall and I will enjoy any good design, I wonder if they could keep the height interval between buildings. The Woodmen at 478, FNBO at 634, New building with the same 156 difference? 790 feet?
Just have to wait and see.

If we could get there, I'd love to see it top 845ft. I know it wouldn't be a practical extension but I'd love for us to take the crown of having a taller building than the Devon Energy Center. Omaha is so much better than OKC, and I'd love if we could show it

[Doctor Fate]

If this 700 ft rumor comes to fruition, I think it would be a nice addition to the skyline if it were some sort of angled structure like 609 Main in Houston. I know it is an all glass structure, but I don't think it is overstated. Plus, it is 757 ft tall so a good comparable to envision the height.

[Night Train]

If this 700 ft rumor comes to fruition, I think it would be a nice addition to the skyline if it were some sort of angled structure like 609 Main in Houston. I know it is an all glass structure, but I don't think it is overstated. Plus, it is 757 ft tall so a good comparable to envision the height.

That’s funny, I was literally looking up “slanted-top skyscraper” right when you posted. I would like to see something with that style.

I think Grow Omaha’s logo is on the right track

[Athomsfere]

If this 700 ft rumor comes to fruition, I think it would be a nice addition to the skyline if it were some sort of angled structure like 609 Main in Houston. I know it is an all glass structure, but I don't think it is overstated. Plus, it is 757 ft tall so a good comparable to envision the height.

That’s funny, I was literally looking up “slanted-top skyscraper” right when you posted. I would like to see something with that style.

I think Grow Omaha’s logo is on the right track

As long as it looks better than Wichita's "Epic Center". I mean that's a slop roof building that could give some interesting ideas but it isn't very well done IMO. It's also 1/2 the height of the rumored building.

[Doctor Fate]

If this 700 ft rumor comes to fruition, I think it would be a nice addition to the skyline if it were some sort of angled structure like 609 Main in Houston. I know it is an all glass structure, but I don't think it is overstated. Plus, it is 757 ft tall so a good comparable to envision the height.

That’s funny, I was literally looking up “slanted-top skyscraper” right when you posted. I would like to see something with that style.

I think Grow Omaha’s logo is on the right track

Wow, I never noticed that on the logo! You're right, Grow Omaha has nailed it.

[OutoftheCanyon]

Had a chat this morning about this and it sounds like the original rumor about this going on the library site may be what happens and not Lanoha. As long as it hits either site we should be happy.

[Night Train]

Had a chat this morning about this and it sounds like the original rumor about this going on the library site may be what happens and not Lanoha. As long as it hits either site we should be happy.

Something to keep in mind with the library site is the classic “postcard image” of downtown Omaha and it’s photo friendly view from 10th st. Add the new park in with the image and I wouldn’t be surprised to see some competition for that site. Big tower with company logo? That would be a winner for that company.

BUT have the 700 footer on the Lanoha site instead and you might have a whole new postcard image and possibly a better one at that. Can’t wait when everything is announced.

[Omaha Cowboy]

Had a chat this morning about this and it sounds like the original rumor about this going on the library site may be what happens and not Lanoha. As long as it hits either site we should be happy.

There are 2 things I’ll mention..

The “rumors” my reliable Cryptic Rumor Department have uncovered, is the plan for the library site is much different- a 14-20 story highrise with Fiserv being the major business tenant..whereas for 1416 Dodge, it’s the 700 plus foot skyscraper with the major insurance HQ’s component..

Another issue is timeline- *if* the Insurance company is Mutual of Omaha for the rumored 700 plus ft skyscraper, then this is important- they need to move sooner rather than later- the 1416 Dodge Lanoha property is “build ready”.. the Library site idea will take several more steps before it’s ready for a build- First- a decision must be made as to where the Library location would move to- this could take several months..then second- once this has been decided, groundwork for and then the actual demolition of the W Dale Clark would need to be completed- which would take more months to complete after that- possibly well over one year.. Whereas (again) steel can pretty much go into the ground at 1416 Dodge- now..

We’ll see how this all shakes out. We know things are brewing, We just need some proposals to put things into better focus…

Ciao..LiO…Peace

[jomaha9]

Had a chat this morning about this and it sounds like the original rumor about this going on the library site may be what happens and not Lanoha. As long as it hits either site we should be happy.

There are 2 things I’ll mention..

The “rumors” my reliable Cryptic Rumor Department have uncovered, is the plan for the library site is much different- a 14-20 story highrise with Fiserv being the major business tenant..whereas for 1416 Dodge, it’s the 700 plus foot skyscraper with the major insurance HQ’s component..

Another issue is timeline- *if* the Insurance company is Mutual of Omaha for the rumored 700 plus ft skyscraper, then this is important- they need to move sooner rather than later- the 1416 Dodge Lanoha property is “build ready”.. the Library site idea will take several more steps before it’s ready for a build- First- a decision must be made as to where the Library location would move to- this could take several months..then second- once this has been decided, groundwork for and then the actual demolition of the W Dale Clark would need to be completed- which would take more months to complete after that- possibly well over one year.. Whereas (again) steel can pretty much go into the ground at 1416 Dodge- now..

We’ll see how this all shakes out. We know things are brewing, We just need some proposals to put things into better focus…

Ciao..LiO…Peace

Thanks for the update! It just occurred to me that there is one other shovel ready site other than 1416 Dodge Street. The other lot is just East of the library. Could the 700 footer locate on this third site?

[Vitruvius]

Had a chat this morning about this and it sounds like the original rumor about this going on the library site may be what happens and not Lanoha. As long as it hits either site we should be happy.

There are 2 things I’ll mention..

The “rumors” my reliable Cryptic Rumor Department have uncovered, is the plan for the library site is much different- a 14-20 story highrise with Fiserv being the major business tenant..whereas for 1416 Dodge, it’s the 700 plus foot skyscraper with the major insurance HQ’s component..

Another issue is timeline- *if* the Insurance company is Mutual of Omaha for the rumored 700 plus ft skyscraper, then this is important- they need to move sooner rather than later- the 1416 Dodge Lanoha property is “build ready”.. the Library site idea will take several more steps before it’s ready for a build- First- a decision must be made as to where the Library location would move to- this could take several months..then second- once this has been decided, groundwork for and then the actual demolition of the W Dale Clark would need to be completed- which would take more months to complete after that- possibly well over one year.. Whereas (again) steel can pretty much go into the ground at 1416 Dodge- now..

We’ll see how this all shakes out. We know things are brewing, We just need some proposals to put things into better focus…

Ciao..LiO…Peace

Thanks for the update! It just occurred to me that there is one other shovel ready site other than 1416 Dodge Street. The other lot is just East of the library. Could the 700 footer locate on this third site?

A Library is often a focal point in a downtown. I'd like to see the new library built in the same location as the W.Dale Clark... (but I also like the riverfront possibility). A perfect cylindrical design in glass to replace the W. Dale would be an interesting contrast and foil to the surroundings. It would make a nice transition to the new green space in front of it. Imagine sitting and reading within the curve of a glass curtain wall. That curve would be a great device to look out over the surrounding landscape from all directions.

[Vitruvius]

A creative design like this tower in Austin, TX would really add some interest to downtown's skyline.

[Athomsfere]

Had a chat this morning about this and it sounds like the original rumor about this going on the library site may be what happens and not Lanoha. As long as it hits either site we should be happy.

There are 2 things I’ll mention..

The “rumors” my reliable Cryptic Rumor Department have uncovered, is the plan for the library site is much different- a 14-20 story highrise with Fiserv being the major business tenant..whereas for 1416 Dodge, it’s the 700 plus foot skyscraper with the major insurance HQ’s component..

Another issue is timeline- *if* the Insurance company is Mutual of Omaha for the rumored 700 plus ft skyscraper, then this is important- they need to move sooner rather than later- the 1416 Dodge Lanoha property is “build ready”.. the Library site idea will take several more steps before it’s ready for a build- First- a decision must be made as to where the Library location would move to- this could take several months..then second- once this has been decided, groundwork for and then the actual demolition of the W Dale Clark would need to be completed- which would take more months to complete after that- possibly well over one year.. Whereas (again) steel can pretty much go into the ground at 1416 Dodge- now..

We’ll see how this all shakes out. We know things are brewing, We just need some proposals to put things into better focus…

Ciao..LiO…Peace

Thanks for the update! It just occurred to me that there is one other shovel ready site other than 1416 Dodge Street. The other lot is just East of the library. Could the 700 footer locate on this third site?

You mean the final stretch of the GLM? Because that lot is part of the mall / park. Not an undeveloped lot.

Slightly further east is the OPA lot next to the Sprecht building... Which is where the Steelhouse is under construction.