Linkin5 wrote: Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:14 pm
Grow Omaha announced that Reebok and Ecko are opening stores.
I just listened to the show and it's Ecco, not Ecko. Minor difference, but way different brands. I really like Ecco shoes, so I think that is an awesome addition.
Thanks for the clarification, I’ve never heard of Ecco.
Reebok opens today at 10am.
Are these the big announcements that have been teased for awhile?
Not yet..
There are more coming. The manager of Nebraska Crossing indicated they’re not quite ready to announce yet..
But more are coming..and I believe significant, 1st store in Nebraska (or Iowa), brands…
Omaha Cowboy wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 12:53 pm
Not yet..
There are more coming. The manager of Nebraska Crossing indicated they’re not quite ready to announce yet..
But more are coming..and I believe significant, 1st store in Nebraska (or Iowa), brands…
Ciao..LiO…Peace
Based on past statements from Johanna Boston, I am still betting on a Crate & Barrel as one of the brands. The closest one to Lincoln/Omaha/Des Moines is on the Kansas side of Kansas City.
Omaha Cowboy wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 12:53 pm
Not yet..
There are more coming. The manager of Nebraska Crossing indicated they’re not quite ready to announce yet..
But more are coming..and I believe significant, 1st store in Nebraska (or Iowa), brands…
Ciao..LiO…Peace
Based on past statements from Johanna Boston, I am still betting on a Crate & Barrel as one of the brands. The closest one to Lincoln/Omaha/Des Moines is on the Kansas side of Kansas City.
Crate & Barrel is definitely on the radar from what I understand…
Omaha Cowboy wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 12:53 pm
Not yet..
There are more coming. The manager of Nebraska Crossing indicated they’re not quite ready to announce yet..
But more are coming..and I believe significant, 1st store in Nebraska (or Iowa), brands…
Ciao..LiO…Peace
Based on past statements from Johanna Boston, I am still betting on a Crate & Barrel as one of the brands. The closest one to Lincoln/Omaha/Des Moines is on the Kansas side of Kansas City.
Crate & Barrel is definitely on the radar from what I understand…
Ciao..LiO…Peace
I spoke with Johanna once and she said they really wanted a West Elm, Crate & Barrel, or CB2. There's a West Elm in Des Moines and CB2, I don't think, fits Nebraska Crossing as well as Crate & Barrel. CB would be a huge get.
Omaha Cowboy wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 12:53 pm
Not yet..
There are more coming. The manager of Nebraska Crossing indicated they’re not quite ready to announce yet..
But more are coming..and I believe significant, 1st store in Nebraska (or Iowa), brands…
Ciao..LiO…Peace
Based on past statements from Johanna Boston, I am still betting on a Crate & Barrel as one of the brands. The closest one to Lincoln/Omaha/Des Moines is on the Kansas side of Kansas City.
Crate & Barrel is definitely on the radar from what I understand…
Ciao..LiO…Peace
I spoke with Johanna once and she said they really wanted a West Elm, Crate & Barrel, or CB2. There's a West Elm in Des Moines and CB2, I don't think, fits Nebraska Crossing as well as Crate & Barrel. CB would be a huge get.
We’ll see what happens..but after listening to Grow Omaha this morning, I get the sense we’ll be hearing an announcement soon…
Omaha Cowboy wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 12:53 pm
Not yet..
There are more coming. The manager of Nebraska Crossing indicated they’re not quite ready to announce yet..
But more are coming..and I believe significant, 1st store in Nebraska (or Iowa), brands…
Ciao..LiO…Peace
Based on past statements from Johanna Boston, I am still betting on a Crate & Barrel as one of the brands. The closest one to Lincoln/Omaha/Des Moines is on the Kansas side of Kansas City.
Crate & Barrel is definitely on the radar from what I understand…
Ciao..LiO…Peace
I spoke with Johanna once and she said they really wanted a West Elm, Crate & Barrel, or CB2. There's a West Elm in Des Moines and CB2, I don't think, fits Nebraska Crossing as well as Crate & Barrel. CB would be a huge get.
I think the most requested wants are REI, Crate & Batrel and Nordstrom Rack..
I think most would turn cartwheels if we got 2 of those 3…
Omaha is I believe the largest metro to not have a Nordstrom Rack in the U.S.. really no excuse to not have one. REI is also in many metro’s about the same size as Omaha and some even smaller. Crate & Barrel is a long shot for Omaha, unless they go to a smaller type store. I was just in the one in suburban KC and I don’t know if Omaha could support a store that size.
I don't see REI being a good fit for NEX; possibly next to Cabela's. A store like that really needs to be in the right development. I could see Village Pointe or perhaps in a realized future at Crossroads.
Similar thought for Nordstrom Rack. Rack could work in many more locations around the metro, although it would have to be a rather small store to be at NEX.
The appeal of Crate & Barrel as a "good get" is lost on me(right up there with IKEA) but again I'd say the Village Pointe area or Crossroads would be the most obvious locations.
I could make a case that all 3 would be a good fit at Village Pointe..
But based on the “rumors” I’m hearing, REI will likely happen at Nebraska Crossing. It’s more cloudy on the other 2- but I could see a Nordstrom Rack location at NEX and a Crate & Barrel at Village Pointe..
And yes- I believe Omaha is large enough to support all 3…
Omaha Cowboy wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 8:05 pm
I could make a case that all 3 would be a good fit at Village Pointe..
But based on the “rumors” I’m hearing, REI will likely happen at Nebraska Crossing. It’s more cloudy on the other 2- but I could see a Nordstrom Rack location at NEX and a Crate & Barrel at Village Pointe..
And yes- I believe Omaha is large enough to support all 3…
Ciao..LiO…Peace
Yeah I've been to a couple REI's and neither was at an outlet. I do agree Village Pointe would have been ideal. Even Westroads.
nebugeater wrote: Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:03 am
Let's be honest though. Nebraska Crossing is not a true outlet. A hybrid outlet at best.
There definitely seems to be more premium brands than you average outlet mall. So are stores here not selling last season and flawed clothing at discounted prices? Or perhaps that varies by store?
As for REI their "outlet" store concept is now exclusively online.
nebugeater wrote: Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:03 am
Let's be honest though. Nebraska Crossing is not a true outlet. A hybrid outlet at best.
There definitely seems to be more premium brands than you average outlet mall. So are stores here not selling last season and flawed clothing at discounted prices? Or perhaps that varies by store?
As for REI their "outlet" store concept is now exclusively online.
Outlet malls are fundamentally built on a lie now. You think you're getting flawed or last season's clothes, but you're actually not. Friends of mine that work in corporate retail say that the main line brand and outlet brands are completely separate, with different staff and factories. Basically they're just selling you much cheaper stuff than the main line store. Or, they're just a normal store operating in an outlet mall, IE H&M and a few others in NEX.
nebugeater wrote: Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:03 am
Let's be honest though. Nebraska Crossing is not a true outlet. A hybrid outlet at best.
There definitely seems to be more premium brands than you average outlet mall. So are stores here not selling last season and flawed clothing at discounted prices? Or perhaps that varies by store?
As for REI their "outlet" store concept is now exclusively online.
My observation and understanding is that it is some of both and varies by store. For sure not all the stores are traditional outlets with seconds or last year's inventory.
For the record NEBUGEATER does not equal BUGEATER !!!!!!!
nebport5 wrote: Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:34 am
There definitely seems to be more premium brands than you average outlet mall. So are stores here not selling last season and flawed clothing at discounted prices? Or perhaps that varies by store?
Garrett wrote: Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:48 am
Outlet malls are fundamentally built on a lie now. You think you're getting flawed or last season's clothes, but you're actually not. Friends of mine that work in corporate retail say that the main line brand and outlet brands are completely separate, with different staff and factories. Basically they're just selling you much cheaper stuff than the main line store. Or, they're just a normal store operating in an outlet mall, IE H&M and a few others in NEX.
That was probably one of the earliest themes in the negative reviews when the outlets opened (the current incarnation - not the 1991 era one it replaced). People were expecting great outlet mall deals but were mostly finding things at full retail prices. Sure, they probably have sales more often than the non-outlet locations and probably keep last season's stuff around longer. However, for the most part, you're paying what you'd pay at a standard mall.
Mostly I am constantly surprised that Nebraskans want to shop in outdoor malls like NEX, Shadow Lake, and Village Pointe. It's like we're trying to imitate what we see on TV not realizing that those places on TV are in much more moderate climates than ours. So, we shiver in January and sweat in July, but hey, we're shopping outdoors just like they do in Miami and LA. lol
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nebport5 wrote: Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:34 am
There definitely seems to be more premium brands than you average outlet mall. So are stores here not selling last season and flawed clothing at discounted prices? Or perhaps that varies by store?
Garrett wrote: Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:48 am
Outlet malls are fundamentally built on a lie now. You think you're getting flawed or last season's clothes, but you're actually not. Friends of mine that work in corporate retail say that the main line brand and outlet brands are completely separate, with different staff and factories. Basically they're just selling you much cheaper stuff than the main line store. Or, they're just a normal store operating in an outlet mall, IE H&M and a few others in NEX.
That was probably one of the earliest themes in the negative reviews when the outlets opened (the current incarnation - not the 1991 era one it replaced). People were expecting great outlet mall deals but were mostly finding things at full retail prices. Sure, they probably have sales more often than the non-outlet locations and probably keep last season's stuff around longer. However, for the most part, you're paying what you'd pay at a standard mall.
Mostly I am constantly surprised that Nebraskans want to shop in outdoor malls like NEX, Shadow Lake, and Village Pointe. It's like we're trying to imitate what we see on TV not realizing that those places on TV are in much more moderate climates than ours. So, we shiver and January and sweat in July, but hey, we're shopping outdoors just like they do in Miami and LA. lol
I don't hit a ton of stores out there but the ones I go far generally have better deals than you find at the traditional stores. We buy pretty much all our winter gear at Columbia and it always seems significantly cheaper than at Kohl's and such. Can usually find pretty good deals as well at stores like Under Armour and Eddie Bauer.
Unless your are talking when we have extreme weather, I'd always rather get the fresh air than be inside at a mall.
nebport5 wrote: Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:34 am
There definitely seems to be more premium brands than you average outlet mall. So are stores here not selling last season and flawed clothing at discounted prices? Or perhaps that varies by store?
Garrett wrote: Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:48 am
Outlet malls are fundamentally built on a lie now. You think you're getting flawed or last season's clothes, but you're actually not. Friends of mine that work in corporate retail say that the main line brand and outlet brands are completely separate, with different staff and factories. Basically they're just selling you much cheaper stuff than the main line store. Or, they're just a normal store operating in an outlet mall, IE H&M and a few others in NEX.
That was probably one of the earliest themes in the negative reviews when the outlets opened (the current incarnation - not the 1991 era one it replaced). People were expecting great outlet mall deals but were mostly finding things at full retail prices. Sure, they probably have sales more often than the non-outlet locations and probably keep last season's stuff around longer. However, for the most part, you're paying what you'd pay at a standard mall.
Mostly I am constantly surprised that Nebraskans want to shop in outdoor malls like NEX, Shadow Lake, and Village Pointe. It's like we're trying to imitate what we see on TV not realizing that those places on TV are in much more moderate climates than ours. So, we shiver and January and sweat in July, but hey, we're shopping outdoors just like they do in Miami and LA. lol
I completely agree! I was born and raised in Omaha and I'm certainly comfortable with what to expect for weather. Although I can tolerate being outside in January or July, I'd prefer to be indoors in a controlled climate. Going further, the heat probably doesn't affect me personally as much as the cold, therefore shopping in the summer isn't as much of a "downer" to me as being outside in February with -20 wind chills. I'd have to say it's very surprising that these outdoor concepts with what I'd consider worse parking situations and less convenient store locations are what people want today. Especially when you can buy everything online in a matter of minutes - I would think prefer efficiency and convenience over "new and trendy" concepts.
I'm not saying I don't enjoy the stores at VP and NEX - actually, we're fortunate to have Nike and some other brands that haven't located elsewhere in Omaha that have landed only at these centers. But it is disappointing to see indoor malls basically fall apart and become derelict because people prefer the open air concept. I know I'll be mocked for saying this here given everyone's opinion of favoring local eateries over chains - but one of the biggest downfalls of a place like NEX is the food options. When malls were more popular, you could roll into Westroads food court and choose from Great Steak, Subway, and other places that people were familiar with. When the malls start to dive (case in point first Crossroads and now Oakview) the concepts people are familiar with end up disappearing and you end up with a place that has a poster board sign made with marker that says something like "chicken here". Maybe not quite that extreme, but you get the idea. Food Courts were the hot spot, especially for lunch breakers for area businesses. When I worked for NFM I would hit Crossroads and Westroads a couple of times a week.
Nebraska Crossing dropped the word "Outlets" from their name a year or two ago. They no longer want to be known as an "outlet mall," though the do still have a lot of outlet stores.
Coyote wrote: Sat Dec 04, 2021 8:34 am
What exactly wakes an ‘Outlet’ Mall these days?
I can’t answer your question about today, but originally “Outlet” was used to attract bargain hunters to stop by spontaneously while on there way to somewhere else.
He said "They are some big, ugly red brick buildings" ...and then they were gone.
I never hear Nebraska Crossing refer them selves as an "Outlet Mall" anymore. If you go to their website (https://nexcrossing.com/) the word "outlet" is not mentioned anywhere except in 2 individual store logos. In fact NEX goes the complete opposite direction in their own description: "The Midwest's Premier Shopping Destination with over 80 new-to-market global and national retail brands and restaurants". I think people just call them an outlet because that's what they were, when in reality have morphed in to one of the premier shopping centers in the area.
nebport5 wrote: Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:34 am
There definitely seems to be more premium brands than you average outlet mall. So are stores here not selling last season and flawed clothing at discounted prices? Or perhaps that varies by store?
Garrett wrote: Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:48 am
Outlet malls are fundamentally built on a lie now. You think you're getting flawed or last season's clothes, but you're actually not. Friends of mine that work in corporate retail say that the main line brand and outlet brands are completely separate, with different staff and factories. Basically they're just selling you much cheaper stuff than the main line store. Or, they're just a normal store operating in an outlet mall, IE H&M and a few others in NEX.
That was probably one of the earliest themes in the negative reviews when the outlets opened (the current incarnation - not the 1991 era one it replaced). People were expecting great outlet mall deals but were mostly finding things at full retail prices. Sure, they probably have sales more often than the non-outlet locations and probably keep last season's stuff around longer. However, for the most part, you're paying what you'd pay at a standard mall.
Mostly I am constantly surprised that Nebraskans want to shop in outdoor malls like NEX, Shadow Lake, and Village Pointe. It's like we're trying to imitate what we see on TV not realizing that those places on TV are in much more moderate climates than ours. So, we shiver and January and sweat in July, but hey, we're shopping outdoors just like they do in Miami and LA. lol
I completely agree! I was born and raised in Omaha and I'm certainly comfortable with what to expect for weather. Although I can tolerate being outside in January or July, I'd prefer to be indoors in a controlled climate. Going further, the heat probably doesn't affect me personally as much as the cold, therefore shopping in the summer isn't as much of a "downer" to me as being outside in February with -20 wind chills. I'd have to say it's very surprising that these outdoor concepts with what I'd consider worse parking situations and less convenient store locations are what people want today. Especially when you can buy everything online in a matter of minutes - I would think prefer efficiency and convenience over "new and trendy" concepts.
I'm not saying I don't enjoy the stores at VP and NEX - actually, we're fortunate to have Nike and some other brands that haven't located elsewhere in Omaha that have landed only at these centers. But it is disappointing to see indoor malls basically fall apart and become derelict because people prefer the open air concept. I know I'll be mocked for saying this here given everyone's opinion of favoring local eateries over chains - but one of the biggest downfalls of a place like NEX is the food options. When malls were more popular, you could roll into Westroads food court and choose from Great Steak, Subway, and other places that people were familiar with. When the malls start to dive (case in point first Crossroads and now Oakview) the concepts people are familiar with end up disappearing and you end up with a place that has a poster board sign made with marker that says something like "chicken here". Maybe not quite that extreme, but you get the idea. Food Courts were the hot spot, especially for lunch breakers for area businesses. When I worked for NFM I would hit Crossroads and Westroads a couple of times a week.
One benefit to global warming - average high in February is about 40 degrees now
Brad wrote: Sat Dec 04, 2021 12:12 pm
I never hear Nebraska Crossing refer them selves as an "Outlet Mall" anymore. If you go to their website (https://nexcrossing.com/) the word "outlet" is not mentioned anywhere except in 2 individual store logos. In fact NEX goes the complete opposite direction in their own description: "The Midwest's Premier Shopping Destination with over 80 new-to-market global and national retail brands and restaurants". I think people just call them an outlet because that's what they were, when in reality have morphed in to one of the premier shopping centers in the area.
True. Also, their old domain name, nexoutlets.com, now redirects to nexcrossing.com.
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Heard that the last day for Local will be Monday. Sounds as though the owner has decided not to renew the lease after a multi year dispute with the landlord. Pieocracy across the way has already closed and is currently being remodeled for Voodoo Taco, moving from its current location in the mall. No news on a tenant to take the Local space yet.
My take on LBP&K at NEX was that it seemed like a good place to sit and drink some beers and watch your favorite flavor of sportsball while your loved ones shopped, but as a place to eat I always found it rather ho-hum. It was never particularly busy inside. Perhaps it gave off too much of a bar vibe for families to be inclined to grab lunch or dinner there while shopping.
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I only went there once and the food was ok, but the staff was horrible. They didn't know any of the menu and seemed disinterested. Granted, that was 2-3 years ago, I am sure it hasn't gotten better with covid and short-staffing.
Local is a great concept with poor execution. I had high hopes when the concept was announce but have never been impressed. NEX is a great location for a concept like this, hopefully something similar will fill the void.
skinzfan23 wrote: Tue Dec 21, 2021 9:55 am
I only went there once and the food was ok, but the staff was horrible. They didn't know any of the menu and seemed disinterested. Granted, that was 2-3 years ago, I am sure it hasn't gotten better with covid and short-staffing.
No, it had not. I think I mentioned this in another thread, the place was always dirty too.
About time, a big catch ! Hopefully doesn’t turn into another Giordano’s. Will believe it when I start seeing construction. Surprised they are expanding brick & mortar during a Pandemic.
I have lived in nine cities that have an REI. I’m not sure why people think REI is such a big deal. Yes, there store in Seattle was big and had a big selection, but most of the stores in the cities I’ve lived in were not that big and stocked with stuff you can buy at Dick’s, Outdoor World, Cabela’s, Scheel’s, Amazon, etc. I’m guessing the Nebraska Crossing store will be small too. People will come out in droves to check out the new store and after visiting wonder what all the hype was about it. I’ve seen this happen at many of their stores.
OmahaOmaha wrote: Sun Jan 09, 2022 12:22 pm
I have lived in nine cities that have an REI. I’m not sure why people think REI is such a big deal. Yes, there store in Seattle was big and had a big selection, but most of the stores in the cities I’ve lived in were not that big and stocked with stuff you can buy at Dick’s, Outdoor World, Cabela’s, Scheel’s, Amazon, etc. I’m guessing the Nebraska Crossing store will be small too. People will come out in droves to check out the new store and after visiting wonder what all the hype was about it. I’ve seen this happen at many of their stores.
I have no idea why people are excited for this place.
OmahaOmaha wrote: Sun Jan 09, 2022 12:22 pm
I have lived in nine cities that have an REI. I’m not sure why people think REI is such a big deal. Yes, there store in Seattle was big and had a big selection, but most of the stores in the cities I’ve lived in were not that big and stocked with stuff you can buy at Dick’s, Outdoor World, Cabela’s, Scheel’s, Amazon, etc. I’m guessing the Nebraska Crossing store will be small too. People will come out in droves to check out the new store and after visiting wonder what all the hype was about it. I’ve seen this happen at many of their stores.
I have no idea why people are excited for this place.
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