Mutual of Omaha Tower (14th & Farnam)

[thenewguy]

Ask and you shall receive, thank you....looks great!

just imagine if they get the UP lot developed...and the civic site...

that could be a heck of a good angle

[skinzfan23]

Ask and you shall receive, thank you....looks great!

From this view, if we can get something of decent height on the old UP lot, it will look really nice.

[Omaha Cowboy]

Ask and you shall receive, thank you....looks great!

just imagine if they get the UP lot developed...and the civic site...

that could be a heck of a good angle

Agreed..

And it doesn’t need to be a super tall either- something in that 350-400 foot range would fill out the skyline very nicely…

Ciao..LiO…Peace

[Vitruvius]

Ask and you shall receive, thank you....looks great!

just imagine if they get the UP lot developed...and the civic site...

that could be a heck of a good angle

Agreed..

And it doesn’t need to be a super tall either- something in that 350-400 foot range would fill out the skyline very nicely…

Ciao..LiO…Peace

I would love to see something even taller and cutting edge on the old Civic site. That would make a magnificent skyline.

[ItsAllAboutMe]

Ask and you shall receive, thank you....looks great!

just imagine if they get the UP lot developed...and the civic site...

that could be a heck of a good angle

Agreed..

And it doesn’t need to be a super tall either- something in that 350-400 foot range would fill out the skyline very nicely…

Ciao..LiO…Peace

Maybe you could squeeze a little more out of the Cryptic rumor dept? I'm very thirsty for more big announcements.

[Omaha Cowboy]

Ask and you shall receive, thank you....looks great!

just imagine if they get the UP lot developed...and the civic site...

that could be a heck of a good angle

Agreed..

And it doesn’t need to be a super tall either- something in that 350-400 foot range would fill out the skyline very nicely…

Ciao..LiO…Peace

I would love to see something even taller and cutting edge on the old Civic site. That would make a magnificent skyline.

It certainly is a parcel that would command a taller presence. It’ll be interesting to see, now that the city has reacquired the land, what development is to come. This has always been a location the city has wanted a significant highrise development..going back to before the old UP building was demolished and Townsend awarded the opportunity to build the (failed) Wallstreet Tower project…

Ciao..LiO…Peace

[Omaha Cowboy]

Ask and you shall receive, thank you....looks great!

just imagine if they get the UP lot developed...and the civic site...

that could be a heck of a good angle

Agreed..

And it doesn’t need to be a super tall either- something in that 350-400 foot range would fill out the skyline very nicely…

Ciao..LiO…Peace

Maybe you could squeeze a little more out of the Cryptic rumor dept? I'm very thirsty for more big announcements.

If fact, in about a week or so, yours truly will be having dinner with our “Cryptic Rumor Department”. So I’ll definitely shake the tree and see what else I can share here …

Ciao..LiO…Peace

[Athomsfere]

It certainly is a parcel that would command a taller presence. It’ll be interesting to see, now that the city has reacquired the land, what development is to come. This has always been a location the city has wanted a significant highrise development..going back to before the old UP building was demolished and Townsend awarded the opportunity to build the (failed) Wallstreet Tower project…

Ciao..LiO…Peace

I think Omaha has reached a point where a Wallstreet Tower could be done, with much less risk at least.

[skinzfan23]

I would love to see something similar to the new tower in Lincoln.

[Doctor Fate]

What is the expected timeline before groundbreaking? I believe Mutual's CEO said they hoped to begin construction in Jan. 2023? So I would think the design would be finalized fairly soon so planning could begin for construction.

[Athomsfere]

What is the expected timeline before groundbreaking? I believe Mutual's CEO said they hoped to begin construction in Jan. 2023? So I would think the design would be finalized fairly soon so planning could begin for construction.

From memory: they are a little ahead of the street car.

Study done this year, maybe 2023. Construction would start about then. 2024 - 2025 for completion.

[Vitruvius]

[Athomsfere]

LOL, and look at that sexy logo on the new building...

[ita]

I would love to see something similar to the new tower in Lincoln.

Yes, the possibility of high rise residential is particularly exciting. They can have very small floorplates (one of the supertalls in NYC has around a 4000 sq. ft. floor plate), so there can be more than one on a single block. Additionally, they come in all sorts of flavors and designs. I am really hoping we get a nice boom of high rise residential in midtown and downtown to spice up the skyline, among other things.

[Vitruvius]

LOL, and look at that sexy logo on the new building...

small imperfection

[Vitruvius]

I would love to see something similar to the new tower in Lincoln.

Yes, the possibility of high rise residential is particularly exciting. They can have very small floorplates (one of the supertalls in NYC has around a 4000 sq. ft. floor plate), so there can be more than one on a single block. Additionally, they come in all sorts of flavors and designs. I am really hoping we get a nice boom of high rise residential in midtown and downtown to spice up the skyline, among other things.

Steinway Tower NYC

[ita]

I would love to see something similar to the new tower in Lincoln.

Yes, the possibility of high rise residential is particularly exciting. They can have very small floorplates (one of the supertalls in NYC has around a 4000 sq. ft. floor plate), so there can be more than one on a single block. Additionally, they come in all sorts of flavors and designs. I am really hoping we get a nice boom of high rise residential in midtown and downtown to spice up the skyline, among other things.

Steinway Tower NYC

That's the one. Nearby 432 Park is also another supertall with a small floorplate. Not as small, but it's still only about 8,000 sq. st. Granted, we don't need supertalls here, but if those can have that small of footprints, I want to see more high rise residential with smaller footprints here and have some lots, like the UP site, broken up to smaller lots to accommodate such projects.

[Omaha Cowboy]

What is the expected timeline before groundbreaking? I believe Mutual's CEO said they hoped to begin construction in Jan. 2023? So I would think the design would be finalized fairly soon so planning could begin for construction.

This would be the timeline presented by Mutual of Omaha’s CEO during the announcement presser on January 26th..It’s since cleared one big city-council hurdle (moving the library downtown to the 1401 Jones St location, clearing the way for the W Dale Clark demolition).. This looks to be right on schedule. Although we’re still very early on…

Ciao..LiO…Peace

[S.O.Boy]

Nothing says you are committed to Midtown like leaving the area.

[Omaha Cowboy]

Nothing says you are committed to Midtown like leaving the area.

Not forgetting the fact Mutual of Omaha still owns quite a financial commitment to the area (i e Midtown Crossing etc)…

Ciao..LiO…Peace

[S.O.Boy]

Nothing says you are committed to Midtown like leaving the area.

Not forgetting the fact Mutual of Omaha still owns quite a financial commitment to the area (i e Midtown Crossing etc)…

Ciao..LiO…Peace

It would be easy for them to divest other properties, when they sell their building.

[Omaha Cowboy]

Nothing says you are committed to Midtown like leaving the area.

Not forgetting the fact Mutual of Omaha still owns quite a financial commitment to the area (i e Midtown Crossing etc)…

Ciao..LiO…Peace

It would be easy for them to divest other properties, when they sell their building.

But that’s not what the CEO of Mutual is indicating..It could very well happen, but you’re just spitballing here..

Let’s get back to topic shall we.. Thanks…

Ciao..LiO…Peace

[ita]

Nothing says you are committed to Midtown like leaving the area.

Not forgetting the fact Mutual of Omaha still owns quite a financial commitment to the area (i e Midtown Crossing etc)…

Ciao..LiO…Peace

It would be easy for them to divest other properties, when they sell their building.

The CEO indicated that they have already started divesting their ownership in Midtown Crossing. While they still own their HQ and a lot of developable land in Turner Park East, he admitted that MoO is getting out of the real estate development business. They are going to sell to developers. Their "continued commitment" comes in the form in pushing for the streetcar; presumably, the streetcar line will allow/encourage development in Turner Park East and their HQ site.

[Omaha Cowboy]

Nothing says you are committed to Midtown like leaving the area.

Not forgetting the fact Mutual of Omaha still owns quite a financial commitment to the area (i e Midtown Crossing etc)…

Ciao..LiO…Peace

It would be easy for them to divest other properties, when they sell their building.

The CEO indicated that they have already started divesting their ownership in Midtown Crossing. While they still own their HQ and a lot of developable land in Turner Park East, he admitted that MoO is getting out of the real estate development business. They are going to sell to developers. Their "continued commitment" comes in the form in pushing for the streetcar; presumably, the streetcar line will allow/encourage development in Turner Park East and their HQ site.

I’ll be having dinner over the weekend who is a significant part of the “management team” at Mutual..and I’ll try and garner some additional intel regarding this issue..as who knows what will end up as a mutual commitment to midtown..

In the meantime, I’d love to continue talk here on the topic at hand..

Perhaps someone with a passion regarding this latest side discussion should start a specific topic thread regarding Mutual’s future commitment or lack thereof to the midtown area …

Ciao..LiO…Peace

[Doctor Fate]

I've been told that JE Dunn has been awarded the contract to build the Mutual tower.

One topic that I haven't seen discussed is what the name of the tower will be. A minor thing but still fun to think about.

[ShawJ]

I've been told that JE Dunn has been awarded the contract to build the Mutual tower.

One topic that I haven't seen discussed is what the name of the tower will be. A minor thing but still fun to think about.

Mutual Tower? Pecker of the Plains II?

[Garrett]

I've been told that JE Dunn has been awarded the contract to build the Mutual tower.

One topic that I haven't seen discussed is what the name of the tower will be. A minor thing but still fun to think about.

Mutual Tower? Pecker of the Plains II?

Pecker of the Plains II: Bigger, Longer, Uncut.

[NEDodger]

I've been told that JE Dunn has been awarded the contract to build the Mutual tower.

One topic that I haven't seen discussed is what the name of the tower will be. A minor thing but still fun to think about.

Nice! A concrete step towards this beginning. My guess is it’ll just be “Mutual of Omaha Tower”.

[Omaha Cowboy]

I've been told that JE Dunn has been awarded the contract to build the Mutual tower.

One topic that I haven't seen discussed is what the name of the tower will be. A minor thing but still fun to think about.

Nice! A concrete step towards this beginning. My guess is it’ll just be “Mutual of Omaha Tower”.

I agree..

Likely the name will be just that..The aesthetics and design of the skyscraper is far, FAR more important than the name. Like FNC, simple is better as it relates to naming imo…

Ciao..LiO…Peace

[Linkin5]

Just to chime in on the MoO midtown owned properties, James Blackledge stated in the press conference that over time time they will sell off ALL the midtown property they own to developers.

[Omaha Cowboy]

What I’m really interested in, as it relates to this new proposed skyscraper (along with final design and aesthetics), is how tall it will actually end up being. Just spitballing, everything I’ve been hearing is the number of stores will be in the 45-50 range. From a height dramatics “impact” standpoint, I’d say the tower should land at 700 feet. Tall enough to eclipse FNC, but not overwhelm it and place the skyline too out of balance..

I wish I could be a fly on the wall during the design process..but beyond that, I’ll try and attain some further intel when I shake the tree in the next week or so during my meet up with the “Cryptic Rumor Department”..

How tall do you all think this new skyscraper should be?…

Ciao..LiO…Peace

[Busguy2010]

630 if 45, 700 if 50. I think that's a pretty fair range.

I hope they do change the base design, it just totally clashes with the rest of it. Something with a curved facade kind of like the First National building on the north side would look much better.

[omahahawk]

How tall do you all think this new skyscraper should be?…

Hopefully 50 stories or at least the tallest in Omaha. It is afterall at the most prestigous address downtown if not the entire city. One thing I would be curious about is how many people think there is the possibility Mutual would build a restaurant at the top ala Woodmen Top of the World or Press Club. How cool would that be?

[MTO]

No one thinks the economy and upcoming rate hikes etc. will cause shrinkage or delays to this?

[Linkin5]

No one thinks the economy and upcoming rate hikes etc. will cause shrinkage or delays to this?

If it was a random developer? Yes. With a company like MoO? No.

[GetUrban]

No one thinks the economy and upcoming rate hikes etc. will cause shrinkage or delays to this?

If it was a random developer? Yes. With a company like MoO? No.

If supplies of building materials and labor shortages don’t catch up with demand, prices will continue to get jacked-up. Fear is another factor which is already causing estimates for work 6 months down the road to be running 10-15% higher now, compared to November 2021. But MoO may be willing to pay more anyway if they can recoup higher amounts for their properties they sell.

[ita]

How tall do you all think this new skyscraper should be?…

Hopefully 50 stories or at least the tallest in Omaha. It is afterall at the most prestigous address downtown if not the entire city. One thing I would be curious about is how many people think there is the possibility Mutual would build a restaurant at the top ala Woodmen Top of the World or Press Club. How cool would that be?

That would be an amazing amenity if they have something like that.

My guess for height is 664, taller than FNBO tower, but same elevation.

We should have a thread dedicated for guessing heights of some of the proposed/planned high rises in the city, like our yearly census estimates threads. We currently have this MoO project, the UNMC admin (my guess is 250) and NExT buildings (I think at least 300) on the horizon.

[SunMan]

My guesses are 670 for MoO, 260 for UNMC, and 220 for NExT.

[omahahawk]

Probably just pipe dreaming out loud about the whole top floor restaurant thing. Never been to Chick-Fil-A at their current site. Not really sure how Mutual feels about having the general public in their property either. Maybe it's like trying to score a chicken sandwich at Fort Knox. In any case though maybe the restaurant thing could work financially or at least in a public image perspective. Obviously it would have to have more going for it than just the view in order to be viable. However, if they were to really try and go all in a place that has a reputation for really good food, service, and atmosphere it may bode well for them in the long run. I can imagine a place that is full of archival photos and stories over the many decades the company has been in business. Tie it in with a Wild Kindgom kind of theme, not in some tacky Disney tourist kind of way, but in a classy, elegant way that promotes the overall corporate image. Could be a great PR thing, especially if it were to turn out to be a go to place for business lunch and dinners and for bringing out towners.

[Omaha Cowboy]

Probably just pipe dreaming out loud about the whole top floor restaurant thing. Never been to Chick-Fil-A at their current site. Not really sure how Mutual feels about having the general public in their property either. Maybe it's like trying to score a chicken sandwich at Fort Knox. In any case though maybe the restaurant thing could work financially or at least in a public image perspective. Obviously it would have to have more going for it than just the view in order to be viable. However, if they were to really try and go all in a place that has a reputation for really good food, service, and atmosphere it may bode well for them in the long run. I can imagine a place that is full of archival photos and stories over the many decades the company has been in business. Tie it in with a Wild Kindgom kind of theme, not in some tacky Disney tourist kind of way, but in a classy, elegant way that promotes the overall corporate image. Could be a great PR thing, especially if it were to turn out to be a go to place for business lunch and dinners and for bringing out towners.

I like your idea.. A place modeled after the Rainforest Cafe type motif.. The “Wild Kingdom Cafe”. Something that’s family friendly..They could partner with the HD Zoo…

Ciao..LiO…Peace