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nebport5 wrote: Wed Aug 31, 2022 9:04 pm I wouldn't balk at a Hy-Vee downtown, though I think demographically Whole Foods makes more sense. I haven't been to a Cosentino's referenced in KC, though they look fine for what I can tell via Google. The two biggest issues when we're talking "full service" is square footage and hours. There's nothing "full service" about closing at 6 or 7 p.m.
The Downtown Whole Foods concept has worked well in many city downtown core areas..

Like I stated yesterday, from an aspirational standpoint, this WF concept would be as close to a “perfect” get for an urban core Downtown “full service” grocer in Omaha.. The good news is, we’re edging closer to this grocer addition for the downtown core- and that’s a positive. I’ve long thought North Downtown was it’s best landing spot…

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Omaha Cowboy wrote: Wed Aug 31, 2022 11:15 pm
nebport5 wrote: Wed Aug 31, 2022 9:04 pm I wouldn't balk at a Hy-Vee downtown, though I think demographically Whole Foods makes more sense. I haven't been to a Cosentino's referenced in KC, though they look fine for what I can tell via Google. The two biggest issues when we're talking "full service" is square footage and hours. There's nothing "full service" about closing at 6 or 7 p.m.
The Downtown Whole Foods concept has worked well in many city downtown core areas..

Like I stated yesterday, from an aspirational standpoint, this WF concept would be as close to a “perfect” get for an urban core Downtown “full service” grocer in Omaha.. The good news is, we’re edging closer to this grocer addition for the downtown core- and that’s a positive. I’ve long thought North Downtown was it’s best landing spot…

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Well, no one should complain about a lack of parking accessibility for this development.

I think North Downtown is fine for grocery, however, a proper grocer in a smarter conceived Civic redevelopment makes good sense too(and still with close Creighton proximity). The other obvious thought, if I'm a grocer, would be getting a spot along the streetcar route. That would make a strong case for the West Leahy Lot or the eyesore across the street at 1313 Farnam. Either way if it's a Whole Foods like grocer with a hot bar/salad bar there'll be a large population of patrons from the forthcoming edifice across the street(not to mention other obvious surroundings).
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nebport5 wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 10:30 am
Omaha Cowboy wrote: Wed Aug 31, 2022 11:15 pm
nebport5 wrote: Wed Aug 31, 2022 9:04 pm I wouldn't balk at a Hy-Vee downtown, though I think demographically Whole Foods makes more sense. I haven't been to a Cosentino's referenced in KC, though they look fine for what I can tell via Google. The two biggest issues when we're talking "full service" is square footage and hours. There's nothing "full service" about closing at 6 or 7 p.m.
The Downtown Whole Foods concept has worked well in many city downtown core areas..

Like I stated yesterday, from an aspirational standpoint, this WF concept would be as close to a “perfect” get for an urban core Downtown “full service” grocer in Omaha.. The good news is, we’re edging closer to this grocer addition for the downtown core- and that’s a positive. I’ve long thought North Downtown was it’s best landing spot…

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Well, no one should complain about a lack of parking accessibility for this development.

I think North Downtown is fine for grocery, however, a proper grocer in a smarter conceived Civic redevelopment makes good sense too(and still with close Creighton proximity). The other obvious thought, if I'm a grocer, would be getting a spot along the streetcar route. That would make a strong case for the West Leahy Lot or the eyesore across the street at 1313 Farnam. Either way if it's a Whole Foods like grocer with a hot bar/salad bar there'll be a large population of patrons from the forthcoming edifice across the street(not to mention other obvious surroundings).
I agree that I think a grocery store owner would want to locate themselves off of the streetcar line. It reduces the need for parking and will likely be near other commercial activity or residences to bring people to the store.

My other thought is that as Omaha is planning to bring as many people to the urban core as possible, why settle for just one grocery store? We can have a couple ranging in size and services. Noddle can get have one in North Downtown that would serve Creighton, the Builders District, Millwork, and potential future developments in the North Downtown area like Lot B or development that would replace the I-480 overpass. Then we can have one near the CBD off the streetcar line to serve the population of downtown proper. Positioned along bus and streetcar routes, the downtown proper store could pull in folks from Little Italy, Dahlman, West Downtown, and the Columbus Park neighborhoods.
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ita wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 11:55 am
I agree that I think a grocery store owner would want to locate themselves off of the streetcar line. It reduces the need for parking and will likely be near other commercial activity or residences to bring people to the store.

My other thought is that as Omaha is planning to bring as many people to the urban core as possible, why settle for just one grocery store? We can have a couple ranging in size and services. Noddle can get have one in North Downtown that would serve Creighton, the Builders District, Millwork, and potential future developments in the North Downtown area like Lot B or development that would replace the I-480 overpass. Then we can have one near the CBD off the streetcar line to serve the population of downtown proper. Positioned along bus and streetcar routes, the downtown proper store could pull in folks from Little Italy, Dahlman, West Downtown, and the Columbus Park neighborhoods.
To be fair, Wohlner's will be easily accessible by the streetcar and is currently easily accessible via ORBT. I understand that going a couple miles down the line for groceries isn't ideal, but If folk aren't willing to travel 5-10 minutes, will moving it closer really matter that much?

More than a grocery store, what I'd like to see is a CVS or a Walgreens set up a store downtown. It wouldn't need as big of a footprint, and would fit the "oh |expletive|, I forgot X" use case a lot better than a grocery store.

But then again, why not both?
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A Walgreens would be a great addition. Can't believe I never thought of that. There's plenty of nicely located bays throughout downtown that should be big enough should they come open. My only concern is there already is the one at 30th & Dodge, but they are also known to be spaced rather close to each other. I think it would work.
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halgy wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 12:40 pm
ita wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 11:55 am
I agree that I think a grocery store owner would want to locate themselves off of the streetcar line. It reduces the need for parking and will likely be near other commercial activity or residences to bring people to the store.

My other thought is that as Omaha is planning to bring as many people to the urban core as possible, why settle for just one grocery store? We can have a couple ranging in size and services. Noddle can get have one in North Downtown that would serve Creighton, the Builders District, Millwork, and potential future developments in the North Downtown area like Lot B or development that would replace the I-480 overpass. Then we can have one near the CBD off the streetcar line to serve the population of downtown proper. Positioned along bus and streetcar routes, the downtown proper store could pull in folks from Little Italy, Dahlman, West Downtown, and the Columbus Park neighborhoods.
To be fair, Wohlner's will be easily accessible by the streetcar and is currently easily accessible via ORBT. I understand that going a couple miles down the line for groceries isn't ideal, but If folk aren't willing to travel 5-10 minutes, will moving it closer really matter that much?

More than a grocery store, what I'd like to see is a CVS or a Walgreens set up a store downtown. It wouldn't need as big of a footprint, and would fit the "oh |expletive|, I forgot X" use case a lot better than a grocery store.

But then again, why not both?
I was talking to someone else about downtown retail and Walgreens/CVS came up. There is one in Midtown Crossing, but downtown could use/should have one as well. They could easily fit in one of the ground floor retail in some of the recent developments, but I am not sure if they want/require a drive thru.

My thinking on multiple grocery stores in the urban core is to put them not only in public transit accessible areas, but within walking distance. I think as the urban core gets more dense, grocery stores will be able to anchor whole residential districts. If they are going to be smaller, like a Wohlner's, let's have a couple.
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Downtown Lincoln has had a Walgreens downtown for years and it is pretty popular. I don’t see any reason it wouldn’t work in DT Omaha.
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Or on the ground floor of the Brandeis Building, for something a little more ready to go? Didn’t there used to be one there at some point? Maybe it was across the street at ParkFair.
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Busguy2010 wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 12:49 pm A Walgreens would be a great addition. Can't believe I never thought of that. There's plenty of nicely located bays throughout downtown that should be big enough should they come open. My only concern is there already is the one at 30th & Dodge, but they are also known to be spaced rather close to each other. I think it would work.
Of course for a good many years there was a Walgreens downtown, on 16th Street.
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nativeomahan wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 3:49 pm Of course for a good many years there was a Walgreens downtown, on 16th Street.
About when did it close? Talking about it now, I remember hearing about that former Walgreens. Where the DGX is now, right? Assuming that was an older location, would that same bay work for a modern Walgreens? Or is it kinda small? Ive never been in the DGX so I guess if I really wanted to know all I have to do is go in there.
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It was in the “Parkfair Mall” across the street from DGX/Brandeis that is now a parking garage. My guess is that it’s been closed 15 or more years. That mall didn’t last long and I don’t think it was ever close to being filled with shops.
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construction barriers are now in place for the office building.
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It looks like Creighton sold the Wareham building and adjacent parking lot to Noddle.

Edit: Must have been a land swap, but Noddle sold a vacant lot on the northwest corner of Burt and 19th to Creighton.
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There's a new master plan layout of the builder's district on the listing for the timber office building (https://www.crexi.com/lease/properties/ ... s-a-office):

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Some highlights include residential conversion of the Wareham building. 30 units with coworking space. A possible 7 story condo building next to the Wareham, 44 units. West of the Yard is another residential, mixed use with a 'food store' marked for ground floor retail. And it looks like Kiewit could expand in the future. Kind of looks like it would be on top of the existing garage.
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I still hate that they aren't even going to try to renovate the 4 story Sols warehouse building. That building looks to be in decent shape from the outside. I was just at Sol's not too long ago and a worker told me that the building is going to come down soon. I also looked it up on the assessor page and its owned by the city of Omaha.
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ita wrote: Mon Jan 23, 2023 11:03 am And it looks like Kiewit could expand in the future. Kind of looks like it would be on top of the existing garage.
There is 75' of green space on the west side of the existing garage, between the garage and 16th street.
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Brad wrote: Mon Jan 23, 2023 11:45 am
ita wrote: Mon Jan 23, 2023 11:03 am And it looks like Kiewit could expand in the future. Kind of looks like it would be on top of the existing garage.
There is 75' of green space on the west side of the existing garage, between the garage and 16th street.
Ah, I didn't know there was that much space there. Thanks for the clarification. That makes sense.
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The retail/dining/bar/food hall on Mike Fahey Street seems to be in an odd location. It's too bad Kiewit wouldn't allow any retail in the parking garage and make it a more cohesive "district".
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Construction on Omaha’s first known mass timber commercial building begins

Just one thing I wanted to pull into the thread:
The building is expected to be completed in the spring of 2024.
That is a really fast timeline for a building on this size!
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ita wrote: Mon Jan 23, 2023 4:56 pm Construction on Omaha’s first known mass timber commercial building begins

Just one thing I wanted to pull into the thread:
The building is expected to be completed in the spring of 2024.
That is a really fast timeline for a building on this size!
One of the many benefits of modern mass-timber construction. Only need a couple of people on site for construction, and the rest is history. Goes up like a set of Lincoln logs:)

(I should mention the pre-fabrication and design take up much of this time burden. One wrongly designed/built piece can slow a project by months).
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Photo from Saturday 1/15



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Looks like a good project, more density for north downtown.
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Omaha's first mass-timber office building taking shape

Omaha's first mass-timber office building is taking shape in the city's Builders' District.
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Did we catch this? Builder's District Park "The Square" by Noddle, next to the new Kiewit? PDF to the City Planning Doc. Reference back to ita's post from January, it's #4.

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nebraska wrote: Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:32 pm Did we catch this? Builder's District Park "The Square" by Noddle, next to the new Kiewit? PDF to the City Planning Doc.

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We knew they were doing the park there though this is the first detailed look at it I think.
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Another park proposed for downtown Omaha is seen as a selling point for growing Builder’s District
Developer says the 1.4-acre outdoor entertainment space would be privately owned and managed but accessible to the public


In the works for downtown Omaha is another park, a privately owned but publicly accessible entertainment space expected to help lure residents to the developing Builder’s District that’s anchored by Kiewit Corp. The Square, as it is referred to in city documents, would cover about 1.4 acres southeast of 17th and Cuming Streets. To start, the park site would feature a grassy lawn oriented toward a giant movie screen and a stage for outdoor live performances. It would have a bike and walk pathway.

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A bike and walk path would go through the proposed park in the Builders District. (Courtesy of Noddle Cos.)

A future phase is to include a 4,000-square-foot restaurant, perhaps a dog park. Trees and landscaping would be plentiful, and all would be surrounded by fencing to create a controlled environment that allows alcohol consumption. If all goes as planned for developer Noddle Cos., the urban park would start forming this spring — and be a fun selling point in attracting businesses and residential dwellers to the Builder’s District, whose investment at full buildout in several years is expected to surpass $400 million. “This is a catalyst for the neighborhood,” said Sam Noddle of Noddle Cos. “It’ll go up simultaneously with the 1501 Mike Fahey office building … and hopefully make leasing space a whole lot easier.” Already at the district is the $90 million corporate offices for Kiewit Corp., which opened in 2021. The 1501 building, estimated to cost $57 million and span 115,000 square feet, is underway and has the distinction, area real estate experts say, of being the city’s first timber commercial structure in modern times. Still envisioned for the Builder’s District, which spans about 12 city blocks, are future condos, apartments, a hotel and other enterprises.

Distinct from other parks?

The Omaha Planning Board on Wednesday is to hear Noddle Cos. request for a permit to allow the outdoor entertainment on the property at 724 N. 16th St. The city planning staff has recommended approval subject to a handful of conditions, including a satisfactory coordination plan between the developer, city and Creighton University on an alignment for the bike trail. Hours of operation, according to planning documents, would potentially be 7 a.m. to 2 a.m.

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The garden area outside a future restaurant space are part of proposed park in the north downtown Builders District. (Courtesy of Noddle Cos.)

Noddle Cos. currently seeks no public tax-increment financing or other subsidies for the park, but Sam Noddle left such requests open as a possibility for future phases. In designing the Square with the help of a consultant, Sam Noddle said the development team looked at mixed-use districts and villages worldwide and also reviewed surrounding neighborhoods of Omaha. The group wanted to complement but not replicate such amenities as the Millwork Commons’ outdoor skate park, the newly renovated Gene Leahy Mall’s playground areas or upcoming sand volleyball and pickleball areas at the Lewis and Clark Landing at the Riverfront.

Natural, simple

So, he said, the group dumped earlier thoughts for athletic courts and opted instead for more “natural” and “simple” features aimed at providing a “soft” gathering spot in the midst of a bustling and growing area. Not far from the Builder’s District are major public amenities such as, to the east, the ballpark that’s home to the College World Series. To the north is the Millwork Commons growing neighborhood of older historic buildings that target artists and entrepreneurs. Creighton University has a growing presence in the area, as well. As the Builder’s District fills in with office and residential uses, Noddle Cos. says it envisions the park as a north downtown central gathering place for movie nights on the lawn, picnicking and “relaxing under the trees.”

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Southwest view of a park, more than an acre in size, at Burt Street between 17th and 16th Streets, is hoped to lure office and residential residents to the Builders District. Shown to the left is a future office structure. (Courtesy of Noddle Cos.)
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Noddle's next office building is a hybrid mass timber construction. I happened to come across some information regarding hybrid CLT/CFS while looking up information on CFS. Anyway, for those interested, Noddle's hybrid mass timber building might be following this model. https://www.naturallywood.com/resource/ ... -approach/. The read more at the end has a short report on the hybrid model that is an interesting read.
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ita wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 11:45 am Noddle's next office building is a hybrid mass timber construction. I happened to come across some information regarding hybrid CLT/CFS while looking up information on CFS. Anyway, for those interested, Noddle's hybrid mass timber building might be following this model. https://www.naturallywood.com/resource/ ... -approach/. The read more at the end has a short report on the hybrid model that is an interesting read.
Great info on CLT/CFS. Thanks for sharing! Having Noddle wanting to do these types of buildings will go a long way to convincing the City of Omaha to adopt the 2021 IBC. They will also need to adopt newer complementary versions of the Life Safety Code which is enforced by the Omaha Fire reviewers.
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Rising interest rates? A lack of new supply? Omaha’s CRE market still a resilient one
Another major project in Omaha is the Builder’s District, being developed by busy Omaha-based developer Noddle Companies.

Kiewit, when it moved its headquarters to 15th and Mike Fahey streets in Omaha, provided the impetus for this project. The goal here is to populate the area surrounding this building with multifamily units, office space, retail and an urban park.

The project will cover about six city blocks and will include a 130,000-square-foot office building made primarily of timber. Noddle says that the project will include sports courts, giving people space to play volleyball and pickleball.

“The Builder’s District will fill a hole in that part of downtown,” Lawrenson said. “Noddle knows what it is doing there. That will be a good support for the central business district and should improve the area around Creighton University.”
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Is it just me, or is the possible extension to Kiewit's HQ over the parking garage?
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It sure looks like it.
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Yes, it even shows it in the master plan.
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Can someone please explain mass timber buildings to me? I’m not knocking it, I just don’t understand. I thought this building was going to be mostly made up of wood. However, it seems like the structure is 90% steel in 10% wood?
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side note: nearly 1500 parking stalls. Should help with congestion during CWS
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Brad wrote: Tue Jun 06, 2023 9:32 am Can someone please explain mass timber buildings to me? I’m not knocking it, I just don’t understand. I thought this building was going to be mostly made up of wood. However, it seems like the structure is 90% steel in 10% wood?
Looking at the marketing material closer they do refer to the building as "hybrid timber" instead of mass timber. I guess that means its a mix of materials.

Page 7 of the below makes some comments regarding where timber is being used.

https://www.cbre.com/resources/fileasse ... d87e43.pdf
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Snapped a couple pics on my walk last night.

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Sols Warehouse will start coming down on Monday the 17th.
Also, not sure if this has been shared recently.

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Stan wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 2:01 pm Sols Warehouse will start coming down on Monday the 17th.
Also, not sure if this has been shared recently.

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Woah, where'd you find that? There's some interesting things happening in this new rendering. Taller garages, taller residential buildings, residential on top of garages. It looks like there's new buildings 8+ stories. Here's a render from last year.

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Wonder what that auditorium looking building in both images at 14th/Fahey is meant to be
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I understand the positive of this swath of land being developed, etc., but man…..it’s a bummer that the Kiewit HQ plus a handful of these buildings couldn’t have been stacked on top of each other at the old UP site/State Office Building to give us another 40 story building.
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Garrett wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 4:30 pm Wonder what that auditorium looking building in both images at 14th/Fahey is meant to be
That building south of the Kiewit University is the UP child care building.