Omaha's Brain Drain

[TitosBuritoBarn]

Yeah, ludicrous that we want Omaha to be mildly welcoming to gay people. Got it.

It's ludicrous to think you can change that aspect of Omaha, yeah. Omaha will be "gay ok over there" but not "gay welcoming", you know? I don't think that's a fight worth the energy. You can spend as much energy on it as you want, I don't think you'll change anyone's opinions here. The people that want a "gay welcoming" move out to other cities.

I doubt Salt Lake City is a top destination for "alt" lifestyles. What advice would you give to Salt Lake City? You'd probably tell them not to waste their energy.

At the absolute minimum, Omaha will ALWAYS be a laggard on cultural issues.

People are born, people die, people move to and from different places, people change and evolve as they go through life. Never say never. There was a time when a gay lifestyle wasn’t accepted at all in Omaha. What makes you suppose we have a ceiling that will disallow us from continuing on a cultural trajectory similar to other cities (if maybe a little behind)?

[riceweb]

People are born, people die, people move to and from different places, people change and evolve as they go through life. Never say never. There was a time when a gay lifestyle wasn’t accepted at all in Omaha. What makes you suppose we have a ceiling that will disallow us from continuing on a cultural trajectory similar to other cities (if maybe a little behind)?

I'll put it another way: our "outgroups" will always be different than the "outgroups" of places like NYC and San Francisco. Always. There's enough of a cultural divergence that we will never be aligned on who gets to be "in" and who has to be "out".

In terms of the city's strategy: the city will probably try to be seen as having just enough acceptance of the outgroups that are ingroups on the coasts so that we're not seen as regressive, but there's a reason that our outgroups are our outgroups: there's widespread political and cultural backing for the current group structure that's unlikely to materially change. In other words, the current ingroup won't allow the current outgroup to become the ingroup. They'll simply force them out.

[buildomaha]

People are born, people die, people move to and from different places, people change and evolve as they go through life. Never say never. There was a time when a gay lifestyle wasn’t accepted at all in Omaha. What makes you suppose we have a ceiling that will disallow us from continuing on a cultural trajectory similar to other cities (if maybe a little behind)?

I'll put it another way: our "outgroups" will always be different than the "outgroups" of places like NYC and San Francisco. Always. There's enough of a cultural divergence that we will never be aligned on who gets to be "in" and who has to be "out".

In terms of the city's strategy: the city will probably try to be seen as having just enough acceptance of the outgroups that are ingroups on the coasts so that we're not seen as regressive, but there's a reason that our outgroups are our outgroups: there's widespread political and cultural backing for the current group structure that's unlikely to materially change. In other words, the current ingroup won't allow the current outgroup to become the ingroup. They'll simply force them out.

I think this lack of hope and ambition has been commonplace in Omaha for a long time. Whether it’s economic development, transportation, culture, etc. Omahans seems to underestimate how much we can take on as a city. When we’ve taken on enormous undertakings, like the CWS, Swim Trials, NCAA events, or when we’ve come together to celebrate Pride or fight for our Black brothers and sister, the city has surprised many with how much we are able to accomplish. I think it’s time Omaha realizes that it’s not a teenager anymore, but has grown up and can take on any challenge head on.

[Omaha Cowboy]

I don’t like using the word “never”. It’s rarely in my vocabulary..

Remember folks, the incident Garrett is referring to (as outrageously Neanderthal and criminal as it was) did occur in Lincoln not Omaha..

That said, Omaha has made very positive strides in being more welcoming to ALL people. I’m old enough to remember the 1970’s and 80’s when it wasn’t..and I don’t see Omaha as much different in this regard (at all) as our peer metros in the 1 to 2 million population range..

Is Omaha NYC or LA or SF in this regard? No..but it’s in the process of becoming the best, most welcoming Omaha it can be. And to deny that folks, denies reality…

Ciao..LiO…Peace

[ita]

According to David Drozd, research coordinator for the Center for Public Affairs Research at the University of Nebraska at Omaha, Nebraska has been losing a net average of about 1,700 of those graduates each year over the past 10 years — 12th worst in the nation.

Drozd said that puts the state behind neighboring states Iowa and Kansas.

Not helping Nebraska is the shrinking difference between the state’s cost of living and the national average. According to Drozd, Nebraska’s cost of living used to be 10% below the national average.

That gap has shrunk to 5%, largely driven by increases in housing costs.

This excerpt is pulled from Dan Crisler's article in the OWH regarding the $10 million dollar investment in Breeze (Omaha startup secures a record $10 million in financing). It relates to the State rather than region, but still important statistics to consider.

[Omaha Cowboy]

The overall state numbers are concerning. No question..

But for the Omaha metropolitan area which grew by 12% and added about 103,000 residents this past decade, I believe any “brain drain” specific to Omaha is overstated imo. I don’t think Omaha suffers any more “brain drain” than any other major metropolitan area in our region.. In fact, the Omaha area’s diverse and flexible economy works to its advantage in this regard, as does it’s future..

I believe Omaha holds its own in this area where the overall state fails..and it is unfortunate…

Ciao..LiO…Peace

[Garrett]

As I've said before, I love Omaha. More than Chicago, more than NYC, every little urban project in Omaha makes me excited. Honestly, that goes for all of Nebraska. A big part of me wants to come home and help Omaha grow, especially with the urban planning education I have. However, the consistent push to kill Omaha's voice by certain politicians in the state is always gonna be a least a bit disheartening for me, as a gay person, and as a young person.

[Louie]

As I've said before, I love Omaha. More than Chicago, more than NYC, every little urban project in Omaha makes me excited. Honestly, that goes for all of Nebraska. A big part of me wants to come home and help Omaha grow, especially with the urban planning education I have. However, the consistent push to kill Omaha's voice by certain politicians in the state is always gonna be a least a bit disheartening for me, as a gay person, and as a young person.

The latest being this new redistricting and push to remove the split electoral votes.

[ByrnesViceVersa]

The overall state numbers are concerning. No question..

But for the Omaha metropolitan area which grew by 12% and added about 103,000 residents this past decade, I believe any “brain drain” specific to Omaha is overstated imo. I don’t think Omaha suffers any more “brain drain” than any other major metropolitan area in our region.. In fact, the Omaha area’s diverse and flexible economy works to its advantage in this regard, as does it’s future..

I believe Omaha holds its own in this area where the overall state fails..and it is unfortunate…

Ciao..LiO…Peace

It's safe to say that Omaha's metro area and Lincoln's are adding people while the rest of the state is losing people. There are plenty of schools in around Nebraska that had over 100 kids per grade, but now those schools have been shut down and merged with other near by schools due to low amount of students. Even the schools that are still around in sparsely populated areas that where merged with other schools are around 50 to 20 kids in each class. It's a Nebraska problem not an Omaha one. This is why republican politicians are frantic about parts of the state becoming Blue. We should rename this Discussion has (Nebraska's Brain Drain)

[GrandpaaSmucker]

It drains my brain every time I see covid case maps of the United States and you can see the outline of Nebraska in the middle of the map caused by the total blackout of statistics and information that has been engineered by out political leaders in Nebraska.

[Omaha Cowboy]

The overall state numbers are concerning. No question..

But for the Omaha metropolitan area which grew by 12% and added about 103,000 residents this past decade, I believe any “brain drain” specific to Omaha is overstated imo. I don’t think Omaha suffers any more “brain drain” than any other major metropolitan area in our region.. In fact, the Omaha area’s diverse and flexible economy works to its advantage in this regard, as does it’s future..

I believe Omaha holds its own in this area where the overall state fails..and it is unfortunate…

Ciao..LiO…Peace

It's safe to say that Omaha's metro area and Lincoln's are adding people while the rest of the state is losing people. It's a Nebraska problem not an Omaha one. This is why republican politicians are frantic about parts of the state becoming Blue. We should rename this Discussion has (Nebraska's Brain Drain)

That’s kind of the way I see it as well..

But if somehow we can “fix” up the issue for the rest of Nebraska outside of Omaha/Lincoln, it would pretty much reverse the political issues surrounding the matter as well..Tough, tough issue…

Ciao..LiO…Peace

[bigredmed1]

NW Nebraska needs high speed internet and better cell coverage. Once that is in (Tesla’s Starlink might work or the state could beef up the connection to CSC and split off city services to the other towns in the Pine Ridge), then other things need work.

Historical stuff needs to be buffed up so there is more of an image outside of Nebraska. Social things need buffed. In 2015, we called for a reservation at Ft Rob for the eclipse. The staff at the fort hadn’t been informed that they were called out by name as the place to stay. They were vastly overrun. Frankly, at the height of WW2, there might have been comparable numbers of people living at Ft Rob, but honestly, there had to be 5000 people there on Sunday before the eclipse (even NASA was there).

Agate fossil beds is federal and they had something like 9000 people show up with food, water, and catering for about a third of that.

The outside world can find these places on a map, but the folks there can’t.

Next, schools need buffed. Big towns like Alliance and Charon do ok, but how do we get people to Harrison or Crawford without decent schools?

Hit NW Neb hard, then use the tools developed there to go to work on Southern Neb.

Next lesson is that recruiting skilled professionals requires recruiting spouses. If you want a doctor, most are either married to other doctors or to other professionals who can’t work in a lot of small towns. Boosting internet speeds will help teleprofessionals.

[Erik]

It drains my brain every time I see covid case maps of the United States and you can see the outline of Nebraska in the middle of the map caused by the total blackout of statistics and information that has been engineered by out political leaders in Nebraska.

See no evil, hear no evil

[Omaha Cowboy]

As I've said before, I love Omaha. More than Chicago, more than NYC, every little urban project in Omaha makes me excited. Honestly, that goes for all of Nebraska. A big part of me wants to come home and help Omaha grow, especially with the urban planning education I have. However, the consistent push to kill Omaha's voice by certain politicians in the state is always gonna be a least a bit disheartening for me, as a gay person, and as a young person.

The latest being this new redistricting and push to remove the split electoral votes.

From today’s W-H-

“Nebraska lawmakers debated Legislative Bill 1, the Republican plan for redrawing congressional districts, on Friday. The measure stalled when backers failed to get enough votes to end a filibuster led by Democrats in the officially nonpartisan Legislature.”..

The W-H link:

https://omaha.com/news/state-and-region ... the-latest

Ciao..LiO…Peace

[Garrett]

I’ll pull quotes later, but an article in the world herald by another Nebraskan expat in NYC expresses many of the same feelings I have here

https://omaha.com/opinion/columnists/mo ... sPbXL5t8hA

[bbinks]

Wayne's proposal benefits Democrats.
Linehan's proposal benefits Republicans.

Yet, the Democrats are crying foul.

Under both proposals, Biden would still have won.

[bigredmed1]

Wayne's proposal benefits Democrats.
Linehan's proposal benefits Republicans.

Yet, the Democrats are crying foul.

Under both proposals, Biden would still have won.

Yep.

[Dundeemaha]

The demographic changes in Nebraska (Omaha's growth) benefit Democrats. The Republicans' proposal attempts to nullify those changes by splitting Omaha. The Democrats' proposal likely results in a 1-2 split of congresspeople which closely matches statewide registration numbers:

594,378 Republicans
357,582 Democrats

[ita]

Study: Nebraska ranks high among states that lost young and wealthy

Nebraska ranked 10th in an analysis by a financial advice website that looked at which states (and the District of Columbia) are losing the most young rich professionals.

To uncover losers and gainers, SmartAsset.com examined migration trends, inflow and outflow patterns, from 2019 to 2020.

The researchers considered people younger than 35 years with adjusted gross incomes of at least $100,000. They used Internal Revenue Service data to compare where they lived from year to year.

In Nebraska, SmartAsset said, 722 rich young professionals moved to the state between 2019 and 2020, compared to 820 who moved out of the state during that same time period. That’s a net loss of 98.

The state that gained the most rich young professionals, Texas, had a net gain of 3,823.

Among the findings was that two states without state income tax — Texas and Florida — took the top spots for where wealthy millennials moved to. Other popular destinations were Washington, Colorado and New Jersey.

Comparisons are based on gross numbers not per capita, but for Nebraska to rank as having had the 10th most 'young, wealthier' folks leave while being in the bottom 15 of total population is not good. Data is kind of old already from 2019-2020, so maybe this data's already irrelevant.

[Omaha Cowboy]

Data is kind of old already from 2019-2020, so maybe this data's already irrelevant.

I’ll go with irrelevant. If anything, Omaha at this point appears to be reversing this trend. Data pre pandemic and inclusive of the pandemic year of 2020, I’m highly skeptical of..along with the 2021 US Census estimates..

Go with your eye test. What does that tell and show you? It tells and shows me based on the hot hosing market, massive amount of multi family housing/apartment construction developments everywhere in the metro etc etc..that Omaha is a growing, thriving metropolitan area- and it’s coming into its own right now- and before our eyes. Omaha is gaining, not losing. Does Omaha have the “look” of a metropolitan area losing its young and wealthy?..

Hardly…

Ciao..LiO…Peace

[buildomaha]

Data is kind of old already from 2019-2020, so maybe this data's already irrelevant.

I’ll go with irrelevant. If anything, Omaha at this point appears to be reversing this trend. Data pre pandemic and inclusive of the pandemic year of 2020, I’m highly skeptical of..along with the 2021 US Census estimates..

Go with your eye test. What does that tell and show you? It tells and shows me based on the hot hosing market, massive amount of multi family housing/apartment construction developments everywhere in the metro etc etc..that Omaha is a growing, thriving metropolitan area- and it’s coming into its own right now- and before our eyes. Omaha is gaining, not losing. Does Omaha have the “look” of a metropolitan area losing its young and wealthy?..

Hardly…

Ciao..LiO…Peace

As Omaha continues to foster its urban core I (anecdotally) see more and more people my age considering staying in the city (or at least considering a return after a stint in the big city).

[legato9]

I don't know that the "eye test" is valid.

I travel quite a bit, and I see other cities with cranes all over the place. They're also building tons of houses and apartments. And since the US population is growing at an alarmingly slow rate(birth rate declining, new immigrants declining), the people moving to those other cities have to be coming from *somewhere.* And some of those people are coming from Nebraska.

Point being, if the eye test is valid here, it's valid there, too.

I love, love, love seeing Omaha get better. But other places are also getting better. We're stepping up our game for sure, but the game isn't over. And other places are playing hard.

[Omaha Cowboy]

I don't know that the "eye test" is valid.

I love, love, love seeing Omaha get better. But other places are also getting better.

I get what you’re saying. But I believe the “eye test” is completely valid. Think about it, if Omaha was a stagnant, stunted metropolitan area, would you see so much urban core and suburban area mixed use development? Further- Would you see all this construction all over the metropolitan area if there wasn’t a “need” for it?..

If there was no “need” you would not see 3/4th’s of the constitution development our eyes can visually see all over the metropolitan area today..

Sure, other areas are doing well too. We all win some and lose some..

But the “eye test” reveals the reality that Omaha is gaining not losing…

Ciao..LiO…Peace

[legato9]

I’d add that the study is about Nebraska, not just Omaha.

And I think Omaha is doing great. It isn’t “stagnant.” But that doesn’t mean it is doing as well as Raleigh. Or Atlanta. Or Austin. Or Denver. Etc.

I have zero doubt that Omaha’s improvements will slow the tide of young people leaving. But I think we realistically have a ways to go before it’s reversed.

heck, I was planning on leaving. And still kind of am to an extent. But Omaha’s improvements have made that go from “I really want to” to “ya know…this is getting okay here. I may not want to in a few years.”

[Omaha Cowboy]

Glad to hear you’re considering sticking around..

The Omaha metropolitan area is coming into its own right now, and it’s an exciting time to live here and see it. The next 5 years will bring a significant transformation, especially in our core area from Saddle Creek to the Riverfront.

Omaha keeps better and better …

Ciao..LiO…Peace

[legato9]

The park, Luminarium, Steelhouse, and Jocelyn expansion are some pretty big cultural gets. I expect the new library at 72 and Dodge will be as well.

I hope I didn’t sound down on Omaha. Far from it. There are all excellent moves.

The new MoO tower will give a much-needed aesthetic boost and some more urban vibes.

I’m optimistic. (Something has GOT to be done about property taxes, though. I’ve about had it with them.)

[bigredmed1]

Taxes in Nebraska are a real problem in general. Property taxes get the ink, but the income tax is a big nest of problems as well.

The fundamental issue is the cost of operation of our state. We simply pay a lot of money for things and stuff. This prevents serious tax reform because our budget busting medicaid, university, roads, and prison system cost a lot of money.

[nebport5]

Even with some of the more interesting projects on the horizon it's still going to be hard for Omaha to compete with much larger places such as Austin, Denver & etc. Of course, the winter weather still deters. If you're worried about property taxes here don't forget how much more the cost of living will be in these other cities. While there are obvious attractions to bigger metros with pro sports teams, theme parks, better shopping and overall more entertainment there is also the downside to living in these cities growing too fast for their own good. Rental prices are out of control in Portland(well the entire west coast) and in Denver where you can expect to pay at least $1500 for a decent studio(not including parking & utilities). Before you move get used to the idea of homeless tent city encampments all over Austin, Portland and Denver. Denver's air quality is typically considered unhealthy. Crime is also up considerably in these "destination" cities. While most of these cities still have a net gain, there's a growing segment of people(including myself) looking for the next it place to move for a better quality of life. For some, Omaha could be that place, like the old adage of "it's a great place to raise a family." For many young people Omaha still isn't it and may not be in five years either.

Omaha's best bet is to keep chipping away at it and hope that projects like the streetcar and riverfront will be a good catalyst for a little more and a little more. Getting Crossroads off the ground and it being all we hoped for would help a little. There's an exciting opportunity for what becomes of Mutual's old digs. Something like a Union Soccer stadium would help a little too. Maha continues to grow. It would be nice to see the music scene return to what it was in the 90s and early 00s. Yes, Steelhouse sounds promising but I suspect it will be more niche to mid-sized touring artists.

It's hard to imagine a traditional theme park getting the green light anytime soon. NEDodger's idea for a Zoo resort/hotel would be great and at least seems more plausible on paper. Also it seems to me a better idea than something like renting a panda.

All in all every little bit that helps Omaha from generally being a 9 o'clock-ish city most nights would help the snowball.

[Louie]

Even with some of the more interesting projects on the horizon it's still going to be hard for Omaha to compete with much larger places such as Austin, Denver & etc. Of course, the winter weather still deters. If you're worried about property taxes here don't forget how much more the cost of living will be in these other cities. While there are obvious attractions to bigger metros with pro sports teams, theme parks, better shopping and overall more entertainment there is also the downside to living in these cities growing too fast for their own good. Rental prices are out of control in Portland(well the entire west coast) and in Denver where you can expect to pay at least $1500 for a decent studio(not including parking & utilities). Before you move get used to the idea of homeless tent city encampments all over Austin, Portland and Denver. Denver's air quality is typically considered unhealthy. Crime is also up considerably in these "destination" cities. While most of these cities still have a net gain, there's a growing segment of people(including myself) looking for the next it place to move for a better quality of life. For some, Omaha could be that place, like the old adage of "it's a great place to raise a family." For many young people Omaha still isn't it and may not be in five years either.

Omaha's best bet is to keep chipping away at it and hope that projects like the streetcar and riverfront will be a good catalyst for a little more and a little more. Getting Crossroads off the ground and it being all we hoped for would help a little. There's an exciting opportunity for what becomes of Mutual's old digs. Something like a Union Soccer stadium would help a little too. Maha continues to grow. It would be nice to see the music scene return to what it was in the 90s and early 00s. Yes, Steelhouse sounds promising but I suspect it will be more niche to mid-sized touring artists.

It's hard to imagine a traditional theme park getting the green light anytime soon. NEDodger's idea for a Zoo resort/hotel would be great and at least seems more plausible on paper. Also it seems to me a better idea than something like renting a panda.

All in all every little bit that helps Omaha from generally being a 9 o'clock-ish city most nights would help the snowball.

This is a really good summary. My brother and his gf lived in Austin for almost a decade and then moved to Chicago because of how fast Austin was growing and how unrecognizable it got (and how crazy expensive it got). When cities grow too fast they lose their character, and with a place like Austin, it's character was what made it special in the first place.

I think Omaha's growth rate is manageable and could probably even have no trouble keep up with a higher rate of growth. And with this kind of growth, it's easier to hold on to the character of the city. If Omaha was growing like those other cities, I personally would lose interest in it and would explore moving.

[Omaha Cowboy]

In believe in the end-

Omaha’s “brain drain” has been overstated. The simple eye test shows Omaha's gaining not losing. And will continue to gain as this decade continues..

In addition-

Omaha should just try to be the best version of Omaha it can be- And to me, that’s exactly what it’s doing. Sure, it would be nice to boast of some of the additional amenities Austin now enjoys due to its explosive, albeit disjointed population growth..Certainly, in several respects, Austin is a city Omaha aspires to become. But not in every way. Omaha’s growth currently, is robust, but not so out of control that the infrastructure will get overly stressed and unable to breathe and accommodate..

Omaha is currently a 1 million population metro and does have most all desirable “amenities” of a metropolitan area 2 to 3 times larger..but as I’m fond of saying- without the pain of having to live in one of those larger cities..

Is Omaha for everyone? No. I’d argue though, what city really is?..

What I’m excited about, is I see the visionary moves to add layers like a significant Streetcar line stretching from the riverfront to SaddleCreek Rd, a world class science museum, the addition of one of the best series of downtown urban core parks in the country, mixed use construction going on everywhere in the metro area, a growing arts and entertainment scene with the thoughtful addition of Steelhouse- which will help attract many acts to book in just the right size venue, as opposed to simply passing up on an Omaha concert date..Then combine all of this, with one of our Fortune 500 companies so bullish on Omaha and it’s downtown core, that it’s doubling down on its hometown commitment and building a significant skyscraper HQ’s smack in the heart of our central business district. I could go on and on..but honestly, what’s not to like? And yeah, I know, property taxes do suck..But I’m being a booster here ..

We don’t need Omaha to be Austin or Denver or Nashville. We (again) just need Omaha to become the best version of itself it can be. And as our eyes see it today, it’s happening..and I’m so excited to see where we land 5 years from now. Because it’s going to be great…

Ciao..LiO…Peace

[Cermak]

What's kept Omaha smaller ( still a million people) is its LOCATION, In Nebraska, on the edge of the Great Plains. With Hot summers, cold winters. Far away from large population centers.

Austin has the huge state of Texas as a resource and pretty much no winter. Denver is at the foot of the largest mountain range in the lower 48. Nashville has a relatively mild climate, somewhat scenic natural terrain and zero state income taxes.

Omaha for its location has done well. The Great Plains ( which can be beautiful) is not on the list for many as a destination to move to. That's one of the things I love about Omaha, it's still relatively easy to get around, is not as expensive as most other cities, and not as cold in the winter as say Minneapolis or Milwaukee. Yes, July and August can be hot but not as bad as Austin.

Omaha is sitting in a good position right now. If you can deal with the wacky Midwest weather, don't mind not having an NFL team, can put up with the high property taxes. This place is looking really good, some might even say fantastic !

[Omaha Cowboy]

I think location is certainly a contributing factor..but I also feel if It didn’t literally have its state Capitol status ripped away from it overnight, Omaha would be a Milwaukee sized, 1.5 million population metro today..

That Omaha is at a 1 million metropolitan population now and growing, is a testimony to a shift from status quo to visionary leadership in our city/business and Philanthropist community about 20-25 years ago.. Prior to that, in the 1980’s into the early 1990’s, Omaha was growing at a much more subdued rate. But bold moves the past 25 years have contributed to bold results..

Omaha is coming in to its own today. And as I stated in a previous post, is becoming the best version of itself..And to me, that’s what’s most important…

Ciao..LiO…Peace

[S.O.Boy]

One of Omaha's problems is the state. I always laugh when a T-Mobile commercial comes on and they show this map.

[ricko]

I think location is certainly a contributing factor..but I also feel if It didn’t literally have its state Capitol status ripped away from it overnight, Omaha would be a Milwaukee sized, 1.5 million population metro today..

That Omaha is at a 1 million metropolitan population now and growing, is a testimony to a shift from status quo to visionary leadership in our city/business and Philanthropist community about 20-25 years ago.. Prior to that, in the 1980’s into the early 1990’s, Omaha was growing at a much more subdued rate. But bold moves the past 25 years have contributed to bold results..

Omaha is coming in to its own today. And as I stated in a previous post, is becoming the best version of itself..And to me, that’s what’s most important…

Ciao..LiO…Peace

I think one of the things you mentioned has a lot to do with Omaha’s current success. The philanthropic community here is very active in promoting much of the vibrancy you see in the arts, medicine, education-——you name it. It’s been very generous over the years, and has made the city a much more attractive place to visit and live. We’re very lucky to have people who care about the life of the city. We could have very easily ended up like Toledo or Akron.

For years, Omaha had existed under the radar. I’ve met people through work here in Virginia who’ve lived in Omaha for a time, and most really liked the city while they were there. With all that’s happening, especially east of 90th St., I expect Omaha to get a lot more attention nationally.

[legato9]

Aaaaaand just got my property tax statement.
Back to planning that move.

This is absurd. No amount of parks is worth this |expletive|.

[Louie]

Aaaaaand just got my property tax statement.
Back to planning that move.

This is absurd. No amount of parks is worth this |expletive|.

I believe those postcards represent a tax proposal, not the new taxes. Not yet, at least.

[ita]

Aaaaaand just got my property tax statement.
Back to planning that move.

This is absurd. No amount of parks is worth this |expletive|.

I believe those postcards represent a tax proposal, not the new taxes. Not yet, at least.

I have been getting them. My primary residence is seeing a ~$30k increase in tax assessed value. We have a condo downtown we are working on and that is seeing $0 change in value. I don't think levy is changing, based on the notice I received for the condo. They could change the levy percentages to help offset the assessment increases but we haven't seen that yet. I wonder how much more they have collected in property taxes over the last two years?

[Omaha Cowboy]

I believe those postcards represent a tax proposal, not the new taxes. Not yet, at least.

I have been getting them. My primary residence is seeing a ~$30k increase in tax assessed value. We have a condo downtown we are working on and that is seeing $0 change in value. I don't think levy is changing, based on the notice I received for the condo. They could change the levy percentages to help offset the assessment increases but we haven't seen that yet. I wonder how much more they have collected in property taxes over the last two years?

You are both correct and thank you for pointing this out…

Ciao..LiO…Peace

[legato9]

I’m gonna pay more next year. That is a statistical certainty.

I did a breakdown of what percentage of my monthly payment is property tax, and I about fell over.

Yes, the seller’s price of a house in Omaha is less than many other cities. However, when you figure in the taxes, the monthly payment gap often narrows significantly.

If I get priced out of my home because of taxes, there is zero chance I get another place here. Zero.

I have family in the Atlanta area who have houses worth 2-3x mine, and they pay less in property taxes!

[legato9]

I’m gonna pay more next year. That is a statistical certainty.

I did a breakdown of what percentage of my monthly payment is property tax, and I about fell over.

Yes, the seller’s price of a house in Omaha is less than many other cities. However, when you figure in the taxes, the monthly payment gap often narrows significantly.

If I get priced out of my home because of taxes, there is zero chance I get another place here. Zero.

I have family in the Atlanta area who have houses worth 2-3x mine, and they pay less in property taxes!

I’ll add that I’m young(ish) and make six figures, have a grad degree, and own a business.

I’m planning a second business with some others, and we have very, very serious questions about whether we’d do it in Nebraska. These taxes are a big part of our hesitation.