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stadsborgare wrote: Sun Oct 09, 2022 7:46 pm Some bigger cities' downtowns will be in decline in coming years because office workers are refusing to return to the office post-pandemic. They want to move out to the suburbs or country and work from home, hence the hot housing market nationwide. Much of that is due to long commutes and rising crime they no longer wish to deal with.

But Omaha is a different story. People still desire to live in the urban core here. I, for one, love going downtown, and it isn't hard to get there especially with new transit options, and I feel safe enough down there. It's also becoming a more attractive place to live. And so we can build more office towers, whereas other cities can't because they have a rising glut of empty office space.

Our city is uniquely positioned, and I hope we don't ever lose that.
I was in downtown Chicago a week ago Friday, I was in the area called "The Loop" which is the financial district, it was late morning around 10am. I was surprised, it didn't seem real busy to me, this is one of the largest downtowns in the country, I didn't start to see more people till I got toward Michigan Ave which is the main tourist/shopping area of DT. I'm guessing many people are still working remotely, especially being a Friday a lot of people might want to stay home.



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Quiet, clean and rather empty downtown Chicago.
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Linkin5 wrote: Sun Oct 09, 2022 9:33 am With the elevation difference will it just appear as tall as FNB? Also that new rendering is great, looked like your picture Brad?

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Alright which one of you is going to crop HDR and Wall Street tower in here for us??

I joined this place a couple years after FNB and UP. I don’t post here even a fraction as much as I used to, but I’ve just got to say it. This is so |expletive| exciting. We’ve been through a lot to get here. I’ve got a feeling this is the start of some real momentum.
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Just checking Wikipedia, the new Mutual of O tower will be 10 ft taller than Tulsa's tallest. But the Tulsa tower (BOK) will still have more square footage about 1,100,000. I'm not a big fan of the BOK tower a somewhat bland international style built way back in 1975 during that cities oil boom.

This is really exciting for Omaha, I always felt downtown Omaha's skyline lagged a little, the new FNB and UP buildings helped a bunch but it still wasn't quite where I thought it should be. The new MofO building will make it probably one of the more impressive if not the most impressive skyline for a midsize U.S. metro.
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stadsborgare wrote: Sun Oct 09, 2022 7:46 pm Some bigger cities' downtowns will be in decline in coming years because office workers are refusing to return to the office post-pandemic. They want to move out to the suburbs or country and work from home, hence the hot housing market nationwide. Much of that is due to long commutes and rising crime they no longer wish to deal with.

But Omaha is a different story. People still desire to live in the urban core here. I, for one, love going downtown, and it isn't hard to get there especially with new transit options, and I feel safe enough down there. It's also becoming a more attractive place to live. And so we can build more office towers, whereas other cities can't because they have a rising glut of empty office space.

Our city is uniquely positioned, and I hope we don't ever lose that.
I don't think this is really going to be how it goes. A lot of people also flocked to downtown later in the Covid timeline so they could get out and still see things. And even my industry, companies like Google are saying sure you can WFH and take a 20% paycut, or relocate to a cheaper city and work remote and you will be paid for what that region's cost of living is.

It might be a while before going to the office becomes more the norm again, but I don't think urban cores are going to take a permanent, defeating hit. And why would they, when the 'burbs are so miserable to live in.
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Cermak wrote: Sun Oct 09, 2022 8:57 pm I'm not a big fan of the BOK tower a somewhat bland international style built way back in 1975 during that cities oil boom.

There was no oil boom in the mid 70’s. It was basically a replica of the world trade center’s twin towers designed by the same architect. The owner of the company that had it built loved them and wanted his own version.
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Soooo.........apparently a 23 foot spire was out of the question!
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Mutual of Omaha headquarters will be the tallest building in Omaha

Construction for the new 800,000 square foot Mutual of Omaha headquarters is set to begin in January.
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At 677 feet will it also be the *apparent* tallest ?
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Damn good looking building
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Duggers_Dad wrote: Mon Oct 10, 2022 7:14 am At 677 feet will it also be the *apparent* tallest ?
Okay so found a topographic map online. FNB tower sits at an elevation of 1,084’ and the library lot sits at 1,058’. FNB tower is 634’ and MoO is 677’. The new MoO tower will sit 17’ taller.
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Linkin5 wrote: Mon Oct 10, 2022 8:46 am
Duggers_Dad wrote: Mon Oct 10, 2022 7:14 am At 677 feet will it also be the *apparent* tallest ?
Okay so found a topographic map online. FNB tower sits at an elevation of 1,084’ and the library lot sits at 1,058’. FNB tower is 634’ and MoO is 677’. The new MoO tower will sit 17’ taller.
I guess we can expect some arguments from non-Omaha nerds and tourists about which one is taller. As at less than 2 stories difference they will each look taller from the right locations.
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OmahaJaysCU wrote: Sun Oct 09, 2022 8:26 pm
Linkin5 wrote: Sun Oct 09, 2022 9:33 am With the elevation difference will it just appear as tall as FNB? Also that new rendering is great, looked like your picture Brad?
Alright which one of you is going to crop HDR and Wall Street tower in here for us??

I joined this place a couple years after FNB and UP. I don’t post here even a fraction as much as I used to, but I’ve just got to say it. This is so |expletive| exciting. We’ve been through a lot to get here. I’ve got a feeling this is the start of some real momentum.
Can someone please do that rendering? And instead of Wall Street, do Lanoha's most recent two tower concept? Here's an older post for reference to help whoever you are get started:
iamjacobm wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:47 am Marketing material posted below. Drawings show 430' as the height. It is only measured to the top leasable floor so the mechanical above it would add a little to that.

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I am with you. I haven't been around this forum nearly as long, but started lurking around 2017. Knowing about all the missed opportunities for a new skyscraper in downtown and the slow crawl that's got us finally to a streetcar route, these projects really coming through is amazing! I think Noddle's prediction from last year that downtown will be unrecognizable at the end of this decade is a lock.
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ita wrote: Mon Oct 10, 2022 9:11 am
OmahaJaysCU wrote: Sun Oct 09, 2022 8:26 pm
Linkin5 wrote: Sun Oct 09, 2022 9:33 am With the elevation difference will it just appear as tall as FNB? Also that new rendering is great, looked like your picture Brad?
Alright which one of you is going to crop HDR and Wall Street tower in here for us??

I joined this place a couple years after FNB and UP. I don’t post here even a fraction as much as I used to, but I’ve just got to say it. This is so |expletive| exciting. We’ve been through a lot to get here. I’ve got a feeling this is the start of some real momentum.
Can someone please do that rendering? And instead of Wall Street, do Lanoha's most recent two tower concept? Here's an older post for reference to help whoever you are get started:
iamjacobm wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:47 am Marketing material posted below. Drawings show 430' as the height. It is only measured to the top leasable floor so the mechanical above it would add a little to that.

Image
I am with you. I haven't been around this forum nearly as long, but started lurking around 2017. Knowing about all the missed opportunities for a new skyscraper in downtown and the slow crawl that's got us finally to a streetcar route, these projects really coming through is amazing! I think Noddle's prediction from last year that downtown will be unrecognizable at the end of this decade is a lock.

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Not the best photoshop, tried to line up the two pictures as closely as possible.
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I would like to see a building something like Lincoln's new proposed building built here. (20-25 stories)
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skinzfan23 wrote: Mon Oct 10, 2022 9:34 am I would like to see a building something like Lincoln's new proposed building built here. (20-25 stories)
I think we all would. I can't imagine that there aren't a couple real discussions in the pipes somewhere in Omaha for exactly that.
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Skimins wrote: Mon Oct 10, 2022 9:29 am
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Not the best photoshop, tried to line up the two pictures as closely as possible.
That was quick! You're the best. The rendering is packed with so much awesomeness that it keeps crashing and doesn't load on the postimage site when I click on it! I can still tell that it looks great even in the small thumbnail in the post.

Edit: I got the picture to load, finally. That actually looks really good! I think it compliments skyline with MoO in the picture. It makes those towers look more slender. Darn it, now I want something at 1416 Dodge asap, like right now, today.
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Athomsfere wrote: Mon Oct 10, 2022 9:48 am
skinzfan23 wrote: Mon Oct 10, 2022 9:34 am I would like to see a building something like Lincoln's new proposed building built here. (20-25 stories)
I think we all would. I can't imagine that there aren't a couple real discussions in the pipes somewhere in Omaha for exactly that.
To the new ownership of this parcel:

City of Omaha, 1416 Dodge-

We’re looking at you…

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Mutual of Omaha tower to be its hometown's tallest building
Omaha will have a new tallest building once Mutual of Omaha completes its planned $600 million headquarters tower downtown in 2026.


Omaha will have a new tallest building once Mutual of Omaha completes its planned $600 million headquarters tower downtown in 2026. Mutual CEO James Blackledge told the Omaha World-Herald that it recently became clear that the insurance company's new skyscraper would eclipse the 45-story First National Bank tower to become the city's tallest building after Mutual finalized its plans. The new Mutual building is projected to be 677 feet tall. That would make it 43 feet taller than the First National building that opened in 2002. Mutual said it didn't set out to build the city's tallest building, but Blackledge said he's proud of how the project will help Omaha's downtown and boost its image.
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Omaha Cowboy wrote: Mon Oct 10, 2022 10:16 am
Athomsfere wrote: Mon Oct 10, 2022 9:48 am
skinzfan23 wrote: Mon Oct 10, 2022 9:34 am I would like to see a building something like Lincoln's new proposed building built here. (20-25 stories)
I think we all would. I can't imagine that there aren't a couple real discussions in the pipes somewhere in Omaha for exactly that.
To the new ownership of this parcel:

City of Omaha, 1416 Dodge-

We’re looking at you…

Ciao..LiO…Peace
City was reviewing "half a dozen proposals" on the Library site. Would be nice to something concrete at 1416 Dodge in short time, but we'll see.
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What will be the new best angle to view the CBD? I'm thinking it might be from southeast of downtown. Maybe from around the Durham Museum.
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edsas2 wrote: Mon Oct 10, 2022 9:54 pm What will be the new best angle to view the CBD? I'm thinking it might be from southeast of downtown. Maybe from around the Durham Museum.
I think I agree here. From the north, the distance between this and FNBO will make it look sparse, but from the SE, the towers may appear to be closer to each other.
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Busguy2010 wrote: Mon Oct 10, 2022 10:18 pm
edsas2 wrote: Mon Oct 10, 2022 9:54 pm What will be the new best angle to view the CBD? I'm thinking it might be from southeast of downtown. Maybe from around the Durham Museum.
I think I agree here. From the north, the distance between this and FNBO will make it look sparse, but from the SE, the towers may appear to be closer to each other.
You also get the density of the Old Market in this view too.
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Doctor Fate wrote: Mon Oct 10, 2022 11:22 pm
Busguy2010 wrote: Mon Oct 10, 2022 10:18 pm
edsas2 wrote: Mon Oct 10, 2022 9:54 pm What will be the new best angle to view the CBD? I'm thinking it might be from southeast of downtown. Maybe from around the Durham Museum.
I think I agree here. From the north, the distance between this and FNBO will make it look sparse, but from the SE, the towers may appear to be closer to each other.
You also get the density of the Old Market in this view too.
Don't know what the best angle is going to be to view the CBD but I can tell you my favorite spot for viewing the new Mutual building will probably be in from the Old Market walking up Howard St. Once the MOO is complete this vantage is going to be on a whole new level simply because of the height and juxtaposition of its location, old and new together.. Even though this building is not as tall as half of the buildings in Chicago's loop it is still going to have the same looming effect simply given its context. The prototype designs were aptly named Project Beacon and that is exactly the kind of presence this building will have. The way the upper floors and windows are designed are very reminiscent of a lantern which I think will prove stunning at night. Bottom line this thing is a grand slam.
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Another viewpoint I always liked was when I'm traveling home from somewhere south of here. At some point (Bellevue or Plattsmouth exits, I dunno) on I-29 you see the Omaha "skyline" if you wanna call it that, and you know you are home free. This building should help with that immensely.
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I've always been a fan of the view from I-29 between Big Lake Park and 25th St on the north side of CB
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almighty_tuna wrote: Tue Oct 11, 2022 9:24 am I've always been a fan of the view from I-29 between Big Lake Park and 25th St on the north side of CB
Oh wow, that angle will have all three towers stacked next to each other. Should be quite the vantage.
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Louie wrote: Tue Oct 11, 2022 9:38 am
almighty_tuna wrote: Tue Oct 11, 2022 9:24 am I've always been a fan of the view from I-29 between Big Lake Park and 25th St on the north side of CB
Oh wow, that angle will have all three towers stacked next to each other. Should be quite the vantage.
That Omaha's best interstate view. Unfortunately I seldom take that route so I don't see it much. Getting onto I-480 from 80 going North should be much improved, that's probably one of the most common views for Omaha drivers.
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Cermak wrote: Tue Oct 11, 2022 12:29 pm
Louie wrote: Tue Oct 11, 2022 9:38 am
almighty_tuna wrote: Tue Oct 11, 2022 9:24 am I've always been a fan of the view from I-29 between Big Lake Park and 25th St on the north side of CB
Oh wow, that angle will have all three towers stacked next to each other. Should be quite the vantage.
That Omaha's best interstate view. Unfortunately I seldom take that route so I don't see it much. Getting onto I-480 from 80 going North should be much improved, that's probably one of the most common views for Omaha drivers.
Agreed on that view, too. As you turn the corner on 480 (whether from west or south or east) downtown already has a grand presence.
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Louie wrote: Tue Oct 11, 2022 12:39 pm
Cermak wrote: Tue Oct 11, 2022 12:29 pm
Louie wrote: Tue Oct 11, 2022 9:38 am
almighty_tuna wrote: Tue Oct 11, 2022 9:24 am I've always been a fan of the view from I-29 between Big Lake Park and 25th St on the north side of CB
Oh wow, that angle will have all three towers stacked next to each other. Should be quite the vantage.
That Omaha's best interstate view. Unfortunately I seldom take that route so I don't see it much. Getting onto I-480 from 80 going North should be much improved, that's probably one of the most common views for Omaha drivers.
Agreed on that view, too. As you turn the corner on 480 (whether from west or south or east) downtown already has a grand presence.
Indeed that is another great one. And the icing on the cake is we are flexing on our visitors from Des Moines, Minneapolis, Chicago, etc.
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Louie wrote: Tue Oct 11, 2022 12:39 pm
Cermak wrote: Tue Oct 11, 2022 12:29 pm
Louie wrote: Tue Oct 11, 2022 9:38 am
almighty_tuna wrote: Tue Oct 11, 2022 9:24 am I've always been a fan of the view from I-29 between Big Lake Park and 25th St on the north side of CB
Oh wow, that angle will have all three towers stacked next to each other. Should be quite the vantage.
That Omaha's best interstate view. Unfortunately I seldom take that route so I don't see it much. Getting onto I-480 from 80 going North should be much improved, that's probably one of the most common views for Omaha drivers.
Agreed on that view, too. As you turn the corner on 480 (whether from west or south or east) downtown already has a grand presence.
Nice. Checking out the view on Google. It's a good one and will be awesome. Will the UNMC Admin Building be visible from this angle, or is it set too low on Saddle Creek?
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Other cool views for consideration:

90th and Dodge looking east.

Hummel Park area looking south from the bluffs.

Slightly west of Missouri Valley (20 plus miles north and completely flat river valley; skyline is already visible from that point and especially cool at night).
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There is also a good view from Grand Ave just north of Coit Rd in CB and of course the Lincoln Monument and Lewis and Clark Monument.
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ita wrote: Mon Oct 10, 2022 12:24 pm
Omaha Cowboy wrote: Mon Oct 10, 2022 10:16 am
Athomsfere wrote: Mon Oct 10, 2022 9:48 am
skinzfan23 wrote: Mon Oct 10, 2022 9:34 am I would like to see a building something like Lincoln's new proposed building built here. (20-25 stories)
I think we all would. I can't imagine that there aren't a couple real discussions in the pipes somewhere in Omaha for exactly that.
To the new ownership of this parcel:

City of Omaha, 1416 Dodge-

We’re looking at you…

Ciao..LiO…Peace
City was reviewing "half a dozen proposals" on the Library site. Would be nice to something concrete at 1416 Dodge in short time, but we'll see.
Keeping our fingers crossed for a development announcement for this parcel within the next 6 to 12 Months..

60-90 days would be even better :;):

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edsas2 wrote: Mon Oct 10, 2022 9:54 pm What will be the new best angle to view the CBD? I'm thinking it might be from southeast of downtown. Maybe from around the Durham Museum.
Hello old friend..

I like that viewpoint. But I think the development of this new tallest, will look great from so many angle vantage points..

I remember Hal Daub saying, about 20 years ago, that from an aesthetic skyline point of view, a city has “arrived” as “major” if it has 3 significant talls. From that standpoint, Omaha has “arrived” :)

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Omaha Cowboy wrote: Tue Oct 11, 2022 9:08 pm60-90 days would be even better :;):
These are unrealistic terms.
Stable genius.
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Big E wrote: Tue Oct 11, 2022 9:49 pm
Omaha Cowboy wrote: Tue Oct 11, 2022 9:08 pm60-90 days would be even better :;):
These are unrealistic terms.
:lol: :lafcry: :lafcry: :;):

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Omaha Cowboy wrote: Tue Oct 11, 2022 9:22 pm
edsas2 wrote: Mon Oct 10, 2022 9:54 pm What will be the new best angle to view the CBD? I'm thinking it might be from southeast of downtown. Maybe from around the Durham Museum.
Hello old friend..
Hello!

Side-note: I hadn't posted in a while because I forgot my password and I had registered using a now unused email address. But this building is so gorgeous, I just had to re-register so I can talk about it.

But your updates from the cryptic rumor department have kept me lurking. Each update has been like a little Christmas present under the tree -- and Sunday's announcement was like opening the present and getting EXACTLY what we've all wanted!
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edsas2 wrote: Tue Oct 11, 2022 9:55 pm
Side-note: I hadn't posted in a while because I forgot my password and I had registered using a now unused email address. But this building is so gorgeous, I just had to re-register so I can talk about it.
Welcome back!

Let me know if you want me to reset your email and password on your old account.
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edsas2 wrote: Tue Oct 11, 2022 9:55 pm
Omaha Cowboy wrote: Tue Oct 11, 2022 9:22 pm
edsas2 wrote: Mon Oct 10, 2022 9:54 pm What will be the new best angle to view the CBD? I'm thinking it might be from southeast of downtown. Maybe from around the Durham Museum.
Hello old friend..
Hello!

Side-note: I hadn't posted in a while because I forgot my password and I had registered using a now unused email address. But this building is so gorgeous, I just had to re-register so I can talk about it.

But your updates from the cryptic rumor department have kept me lurking. Each update has been like a little Christmas present under the tree -- and Sunday's announcement was like opening the present and getting EXACTLY what we've all wanted!
Thank you very much- much appreciated :)..

And please contribute here more often. The more you post, the better this forum is! Especially now, as the excitement we’re seeing moving forward for Omaha, mirrors the early days of our discussions from 15-20 years ago…

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Grow Omaha's Weekly Market Report just came out and has an article about how the height of the new Mutual skyscraper compares to other tall buildings in other cities:


At 677 feet, the Mutual of Omaha tower will be 43 feet taller than Omaha’s First National Tower, which is currently the tallest building in a multi-state region including Nebraska, Iowa, Missouri, Kansas, Wyoming and the Dakotas.

Here’s how the Mutual tower will stack up against the current list of Nebraska’s tallest buildings:

Mutual of Omaha Tower = 677 feet

First National Tower (Omaha) = 634 feet

WoodmenLife Tower (Omaha) = 478 feet

State Capitol Building (Lincoln) = 400 feet

Elmwood Tower (Omaha) = 320 feet

Union Pacific Center (Omaha) = 317 feet

First National Center (Omaha) = 295 feet

Here’s how the Mutual Tower will compare to the tallest buildings in other cities in our region:

IDS Tower (Minneapolis) = 792 feet

Republic Plaza (Denver) = 714 feet

Mutual of Omaha Tower = 677 feet

Gateway Arch (St. Louis) = 630 feet

801 Grand (Des Moines) = 630 feet

One Kansas City Place (Kansas City) 623 feet

Here’s a list of some other major U.S. cities that have tallest buildings shorter than Mutual of Omaha’s future headquarters (this list does not include buildings that are proposed or under construction):

Cincinnati, OH = 665 feet

Columbus, OH = 629 feet

Jacksonville, FL = 617 feet

Milwaukee, WI = 600 feet

Tampa, FL = 579 feet

Washington, DC = 555 feet

Louisville, KY = 549 feet

Portland, OR = 546 feet

Raleigh, NC = 538 feet

Buffalo, NY = 529 feet

Nashville, TN = 522 feet

San Diego, CA = 500 feet

Baltimore, MD = 493 feet

Honolulu, HI = 450 feet

Richmond, VA = 449 feet

Orlando, FL = 441 feet

Memphis, TN = 430 feet

Sacramento, CA = 423 feet

Salt Lake City, UT = 422 feet

Albuquerque, NM = 361 feet